Tuesday: Kushner's Secret Meeting Has Johnson Panicking

Rush LindellJared Kushner, Hakeem Jeffries, a room, no cameras. You ready for this?

ReaganRush, slow down.

Rush LindellNo. No, I will not slow down. This is Rush and Reagan, and I've got a story that smells like the White House hedging its own bet on its own guy in an election year.

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Rush LindellThere it is. Now, Mike Johnson goes on Fox Sunday, brushes this whole meeting off like it's nothing.

ReaganHere's why that matters, though. If Kushner's quietly building a relationship with the man who'd run the House under a Democratic majority, that's not nothing. That's a bet on who's actually in charge come January.

Rush LindellThat's a hedge.

ReaganMaybe, or it's just Washington being Washington.

Rush LindellOh, come on.

ReaganI'm not saying dismiss it. I'm saying let's see what actually happened in that room before we crown it a conspiracy.

Rush LindellFine. Let's go find out who was really in that room. Reagan, sit down. Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, sat in a room with Hakeem Jeffries, just the two of them.

ReaganI saw that. Housing, immigration, cost of living. That's the reported agenda.

Rush LindellThat's not a courtesy call. That's scouting.

ReaganScouting for what, though?

Rush LindellFor divided government. You don't build a bridge to the other side unless you think you might need it in January.

ReaganThe Associated Press piece frames it a specific way. It says, "Political analysts see this as the White House testing how it would work with Democrats if Republicans lose the House majority in November."

Rush LindellSay that slower.

ReaganIf Republicans lose it.

Rush LindellOh, there it is.

ReaganI'm not saying that's Kushner's motive. I'm saying that's the read.

Rush LindellHere's my thesis, and I want you to poke holes in it. You don't send your most trusted operator to build rapport with the Democratic leader if you're confident you're keeping the gavel. Confidence doesn't hedge.

ReaganSure, but Kushner's also just a guy who likes solving problems across the aisle. He did it on criminal justice reform in the first term back when nobody thought the majority was in question.

Rush LindellDifferent era, different math. This is August of an election year, and the man's counting votes he might not have and doing it quietly out of camera range.

ReaganMaybe, or he's counting votes he might need for something specific. Housing policy doesn't require a majority flip to matter.

Rush LindellFine. Small concession, but three topics: housing, immigration, cost of living. Those are exactly the issues Democrats think flip suburban districts.

ReaganThat part I won't argue.

Rush LindellProgress.

ReaganBut the meeting wasn't the only thing making noise this week.

Rush LindellNo, it was not. Because the second that leaked, Hakeem's people started talking.

ReaganAnd not everybody on that side was thrilled he took the meeting.

Rush LindellOh, the left did not take this well, not even a little.

ReaganMediaite ran the headline itself, "This guy needs to go."

Rush LindellThat's not a headline. That's a eulogy.

ReaganAnd buried in there is a detail from The New York Times. A mutual friend set the whole meeting up.

Rush LindellA mutual friend, like this was a dinner party, not a sit-down with the Speaker-in-waiting's family.

ReaganThe Times read it as evidence Trump's own allies expect a Democratic-led House.

Rush LindellWhich is the same read we had 10 minutes ago, except now it's coming from Jeffries' own side eating him alive on Twitter.

ReaganSo he had to answer it.

Rush LindellOh, he answered. Jeffries put out a video.

ReaganForbes covered it. He says the meeting was about the affordability crisis.

Rush LindellAffordability crisis, sure. Two guys who've never worried about a grocery bill in their lives talking affordability.

ReaganFair.

Rush LindellBut here's the part I actually like. He goes further, says the Trump cartel won't get a pass.

ReaganTrump cartel? That's a phrase he's going to hear for a while.

Rush LindellIt's theater. He's trying to have it both ways. "I'll sit down with Kushner, but don't you dare call me soft." It's the oldest move in the book, and it rarely survives contact with reality.

ReaganCan you actually do both, though?

Rush LindellNo. No, you cannot. You either took the meeting or you didn't, and everybody saw the report.

ReaganSo he's managing his left flank while the right-

Rush LindellIs having a completely different reaction. Johnson's out there acting like none of this happened.

ReaganWhile Jeffries is putting out damage control videos, Johnson's over on Fox doing his own kind of spin.

Rush LindellA totally different flavor of spin. Wait till you hear what he told Doocy. So Doocy corners Johnson on the meeting, right? And Johnson doesn't touch the substance, not one word.

ReaganWhat does he say instead?

Rush LindellHe says Kushner hedges bets, his words, then pivots straight to, "You better not bet against the House Republicans."

ReaganWait, he calls it a hedge?

Rush LindellA hedge on his own guy.

ReaganThat's not a deflection. That's a confession with extra steps.

Rush LindellNewsweek's got the whole exchange, and Johnson tosses in this number. He says the midterms come down to about 19 competitive seats.

Reagan19 seats?

Rush Lindell19 out of 435. That's the entire ballgame according to the speaker himself.

ReaganOkay, but slow down on the word choice. Hedges bets. What does Johnson actually saying about Kushner there?

Rush LindellHe's saying the White House's own son-in-law is playing both sides of the table.

ReaganRight, and you don't say that about your own team unless part of you believes it.

Rush LindellExactly, Reagan. That's the tell. You don't call your ally's move a hedge and then tell the country not to bet against you in the same breath.

ReaganUnless the bravado's doing the work the numbers can't.

Speaker 3Exactly. It's like a poker player yelling, "I've got the winning hand," while he's quietly sliding chips back across the table to cover his own bet.

ReaganYou can't do both. Either you believe the hand or you're hedging it.

Speaker 3Right. And here's what gets me about the 19 seats line specifically. That's not bravado. That's a guy doing math out loud.

ReaganIt is oddly specific for a man who just told Doocy the whole thing's a lock.

Speaker 3If it's a lock, you don't need to count seats. You just say, "We win," and move on.

ReaganCounting to 19 is what you do when you actually think it's close.

Speaker 3So which is it, Mike? A lock or 19 seats you're sweating?

ReaganCan't be both, and that's the whole tell in one press conference.

Speaker 3All right. So we've got Kushner hedging in a private room and now Johnson hedging out loud on camera without even realizing he's doing it.

ReaganTwo different hedges, same family, same week.

Speaker 3So who's actually right about the odds here? Because trust me isn't a number.

ReaganLet's go look at what the actual numbers say.

Speaker 3Sure, pause.

ReaganSure, pause. Here's what the polling actually says. A Reuters/Ipsos survey from August has registered voters favoring Democratic candidates for Congress 42% to 37.

Speaker 3Five points, not a landslide, but it's a lean, and it's the wrong direction for the Speaker who just told Doocy, "Don't bet against us."

ReaganIt's more. A separate Reuters/Ipsos poll put Trump's approval at 33%.

Speaker 333.

ReaganLowest of his presidency.

Speaker 3So one in three. That's not a stumble, Reagan. That's a floor falling out from under the guy whose coattails Johnson's entire majority is riding on.

ReaganIt's a snapshot, not a prophecy. Polls in August have moved plenty by November.

Speaker 3Sure, but Kushner doesn't sit down with Jeffries because the vibes are great. He sits down because somebody in that building saw these same numbers and started hedging.

ReaganThat's the theory.

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Speaker 3Now, back to Johnson's floor falling out from under him.

ReaganRight. The approval number and the generic ballot both moved against him in the same month Kushner picked up the phone.

Speaker 3And Johnson stood on Fox and didn't mention either one. 66%, Reagan. Write it down.

ReaganDecision Desk HQ through The Hill put Democrats at a 66% chance of flipping the House, a snapshot from Friday.

Speaker 3Two out of three. That's not a coin flip. That's a lean.

ReaganIt's a probability, not a promise, but it's the kind of number sitting on somebody's desk in the West Wing.

Speaker 3And Johnson's out there on Fox saying, "Absolutely," like he's got the deed to the building.

ReaganProbabilities move, Rush. 66 isn't 90.

Speaker 3Sure, but nobody sends the son-in-law across the aisle over a lean they like.

ReaganYou send him over a lean you're worried about.

Speaker 3There it is.

ReaganHere's my pivot. Kushner sitting down with Jeffries makes a lot more sense next to 66 than it does next to absolutely.

Speaker 3Say that again slower for the people still defending Johnson.

ReaganThe White House can read a forecast. Johnson can read a teleprompter.

Speaker 3Oh, that's mean. I like it.

ReaganIt's not mean. It's just one of them has to answer for the majority in public. The other just has to protect the guy who does.

Speaker 3So Kushner's hedging Trump's bet, and Johnson's stuck holding the microphone.

ReaganThat's the split. The family protects the asset. The speaker protects the narrative.

Speaker 3Two different jobs.

ReaganTwo very different jobs, and only one of them has to look a camera in the eye and promise the majority holds night after night, whether he believes it or not.

Speaker 3Right. And if the model's got Democrats at two-thirds odds, that promise is doing a lot of heavy lifting for a man who won't even say the number out loud.

ReaganEspecially when the family isn't behaving like it believes the promise.

Speaker 3All right. So the math says two-thirds Democrat, and Johnson says absolutely Republican. Somebody's not telling the whole story.

ReaganOr hedging in public and hoping nobody runs the numbers out loud.

Speaker 3Dead man.

ReaganWe did.

Speaker 3We did. So go pull the clip, the Doocy one. I wanna hear exactly how Johnson said absolutely, the tone, the pause, all of it.

ReaganBecause the hedge isn't in what he left out. It's sitting right there in what he said.

Speaker 3Play it back, Reagan, word for word. Doocy sat him down and asked it straight. "Can Republicans hold the House if that Iran war is still going in November?"

ReaganAnd Johnson didn't blink.

Speaker 3"Absolutely." That's the whole answer. One word, chin up, camera ready.

ReaganOne word doesn't erase everything we just laid out, though.

Speaker 3No, but it plays great on Fox.

ReaganConvenient word to have on hand.

Speaker 3Oh, it gets better. Same Fox sit down, Al Jazeera picked up the part that doesn't make the highlight reel. Same speaker admits it would be helpful if the war is actually wrapped before anybody votes.

ReaganSo he wants it over.

Speaker 3He wants it over. You ready for this? Watch the bit. "Absolutely, Republicans hold the House," unless it's not, in which case, quote, "Would be helpful if it wraps first."

ReaganYou can't run both lines in the same breath and call it conviction.

Speaker 3That's my whole point. You don't get to tell Peter Doocy, "We've got this," and then 30 seconds later admit you're rooting for a ceasefire to save your majority.

ReaganTo be fair, wanting a war to end isn't exactly a scandal.

Speaker 3Still, wanting it to end before an election specifically because you think it helps you at the ballot box isn't quite the same as statesmanship, Reagan. It's a guy checking the weather before he commits to the picnic.

ReaganFine. But notice what he's doing. "Absolutely" is for the base, the applause line. "Would be helpful" is the part he only says once Doocy's already got him talking.

Rush LindellRight. One line for the cameras, one line for the record, and nobody clips the second one for the 6:00 news.

ReaganBecause the second one is the honest one.

Rush LindellExactly. Johnson knows the war is a variable he can't control, and he knows it cuts against him if it drags on. So he hedges out loud, on Fox, in real time.

ReaganSure, but he's not the only Republican hedging on this war.

Rush LindellOh, here we go.

ReaganThe Senate did its own dance on Iran war powers weeks before any of this. Key Republicans flipped their votes on restricting it.

Rush LindellWait, Key Republicans flipped their votes?

ReaganYep, we'll get to that.

Rush LindellWhich, hold that thought, because that's the part that actually tells you what the party believes when the cameras aren't rolling on Doocy.

ReaganExactly. Public certainty, private math. Same movie, different theater.

Rush LindellAnd that's where we're headed next, what the people actually writing the checks think is gonna happen. So, the Senate, late June, they vote down a measure to rein in the President's power to keep fighting in Iran.

ReaganRight, and that's not the strange part.

Rush LindellThe strange part is one day earlier, the votes weren't there for the White House.

ReaganKey Republicans just moved.

Rush LindellOvernight. One day you got Senate Republicans wobbling on giving Trump a blank check for the war, and the next day it's a lockstep no.

ReaganSomebody made calls.

Rush LindellSomebody always makes calls, Reagan.

ReaganBut that's the pattern for this whole episode, isn't it? Public certainty that shows up exactly when it's needed after a night of private scrambling.

Rush LindellLine it up. Kushner's in a room with Jeffries. Decision Desk's got their number. Johnson's on Fox telling Doocy the Republicans hold the House no matter what.

ReaganAnd weeks before any of that, the Senate itself flinched and unflinched within 24 hours on the actual war driving the polling.

Rush LindellIt's the same White House running two plays at once. Behind the curtain, they're hedging everywhere. Kushner's meeting, whatever happened to move those Senate votes. In front of the camera, it's all, "Absolutely, we're fine. Don't bet against us."

ReaganI'll give Johnson this much: I think he actually believes it.

Rush LindellYou think he believes his own applause line?

ReaganI think a lot of these guys talk themselves into the number they need to be true. But believing something and getting ready for the other outcome are two different muscles.

Rush LindellAnd Kushner's the guy exercising the second.

ReaganKushner's not in that room with Jeffries because he's an optimist. You meet with the other side's leadership when you think you might need them, not when you're already counting your majority.

Rush LindellIt's the whole story tonight. Confidence on the mic, insurance in the room next door, and a speaker who'd rather not talk about which one he's actually banking on.

ReaganWhether that insurance ever gets cashed, we find out in November.

Rush LindellWe've got final thoughts on all of this right after the break. So here's where we land, Reagan. Kushner shaking hands with Jeffries. The Senate flips its own vote in a single day, and Johnson's out there telling Doocy "Absolutely" like he's got a signed contract from God.

ReaganNobody has that contract.

Rush LindellNobody has that contract. Everybody in this town is quietly building a second option while they smile for the first camera they see.

ReaganI'll say this plainly. I don't think Johnson's lying. I think he's hoping out loud, the way anybody does when the alternative is too uncomfortable to say on camera. Whether that's the same as knowing, listeners can decide for themselves.

Rush LindellLook at her, leaving the jury out.

ReaganThat's the job.

Rush LindellFair enough. All right, that's the show. If you liked it, hated it, wanted to yell at me, subscribe, leave us five stars, and tell one friend who still thinks politics is boring.

ReaganOne friend. That's the ask.

Rush LindellTomorrow, we're back on this, because if Kushner's making more calls, we're gonna know about it before Johnson does.

ReaganSee you then.

Rush LindellDon't bet against us.