Thursday: SCOTUS Passed the Buck, GOP Has No Plan
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What the episode covers
The Supreme Court's birthright citizenship ruling isn't the 6-3 landslide everyone's reporting on Thursday, July 9 — it's actually a 5-4 constitutional squeaker, and Rush and Reagan break down why that distinction changes everything.
This episode covers Trump's Truth Social demand for Congress to act despite the legal contradiction baked into his own request, Kavanaugh's concurrence that dodged the Fourteenth Amendment entirely, Stephen Miller's apocalyptic "knife wound" rhetoric versus what federal law may already handle, and the GOP's three-way strategy collapse between Rand Paul's state-by-state amendment push, the Lee-DeSantis-Johnson caucus, and competing statutory bills from Cotton and Cornyn.
Listeners get a clear-eyed look at why none of these Republican plans solve the actual vote math, plus a satirical imagining of what happens when you put all these competing GOP factions in one room.
The hosts close by weighing this ruling against Trump's other major losses this term, making the case that the real fight just moved from the Court to a gridlocked Congress ahead of the midterms.
Next episode: what happens when the amendment caucus and the statute crowd actually sit down together. Got a theory on how this plays out? Send it our way.
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In this episode
9 moments worth skipping to. The timecodes match the player above.
- 0:15Introduction
- 2:01SCOTUS Drops the Bomb
- 3:59Kavanaugh's Trojan Horse
- 6:15Miller's Knife Wound and Vance's Retreat
- 8:05The Republican Civil War Nobody's Admitting
- 10:08Bumper Sticker Wars: A GOP Strategy Session
- 11:38Do the Math: Can Any of This Actually Pass?
- 12:31Who Actually Wins This Fight
- 13:31Outro
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The questions this one settles, without the listen.
- Was the Supreme Court's birthright citizenship ruling really 6-3?
- No. Reagan corrects the common '6-3' shorthand, explaining that the actual constitutional split on birthright citizenship was 5-4, not the 6-3 figure often cited in headlines.
- What did Kavanaugh's concurrence actually say about birthright citizenship?
- Kavanaugh's concurrence rested on a 1952 immigration statute rather than the Fourteenth Amendment itself, effectively inviting Congress to legislate on the issue. However, Reagan notes any new statute would still run into the same five-justice constitutional bloc.
- Why does Reagan say the White House's messaging on birthright citizenship is contradictory?
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- What are the different GOP strategies for addressing birthright citizenship?
- The GOP response is fractured into at least three competing approaches: Rand Paul's push for a constitutional amendment via state legislatures, an amendment caucus led by Lee, DeSantis, and Johnson, and separate statutory bills from Cotton, Cornyn, and Scott.
- How does this ruling fit into Trump's broader record at the Supreme Court this term?
- Rush frames the birthright citizenship ruling as Trump's third major Supreme Court defeat this term, following losses on tariffs and the Lisa Cook case, with Reagan noting the fight has now shifted from the Court to a gridlocked Congress ahead of the midterms.
- Does existing law already address the birth tourism issue Stephen Miller warned about?
- Reagan points out that federal law may already cover the birth tourism fraud that Miller described in dramatic terms, undercutting the apocalyptic framing used by Miller and JD Vance in their White House reaction.
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Rush LindellWelcome back, everybody, to the Rush Lindell Show.
ReaganGood to be here. Grab your coffee, because the Supreme Court just handed us a doozy.
Rush LindellA doozy? Try seismic. Birthright citizenship survives. 6-3 case closed.
Reagan6-3, or so everyone keeps saying.
Rush LindellHa, ha! Wait, or so? You've got that look on your face.
ReaganLet's just say the real math might surprise you. We'll get into it.
Rush LindellOh, I love when you tease me. All right, that's segment one right there.
ReaganThen Kavanaugh drops a concurrence pointing at a nineteen fifty two statute instead of the Constitution.
Rush LindellSounds like a lifeline for Congress, until you look at the vote count.
ReaganExactly the kind of thing will separate the rhetoric from the reality on.
Rush LindellAnd Stephen Miller called this whole ruling a knife. Knife wound in the American Republic.
ReaganBold words for a ruling that might not even touch the birth tourism problem he's worried about.
Rush LindellHa ha! Then the GOP tries to respond, and folks, it's chaos. Rand Paul's got one plan.
ReaganMike Lee's crew wants a different amendment. Tom Cotton's camp wants a statute instead. Nobody's on the same page.
Rush LindellHa ha! We'll even run a little Theater of the Absurd with that one later in the show.
ReaganAnd we'll close by weighing this against everything else the court did this term. this term.
Rush LindellLet me tell you something. There's plenty here nobody's talking about yet.
ReaganSo let's start with what actually happened Tuesday.
Rush LindellBut first, this hour is brought to you by Lear Capital, America's precious metals leader since 1997. Before we dive in, a quick reminder. We love hearing from you. If you have questions or topics you'd like us to cover, head to the link in the description and submit your question. We read every single one. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a decision. Six months of build-up and the Supreme Court just handed down the verdict on birthright citizenship. 6-3 they're calling it. Trump's executive order done, knocked out in the first round.
ReaganHold on, Rush. 6-3 is the headline, but that's not the real number.
Rush LindellOh, here we go.
ReaganThe order got struck down 6-3, Sure, but the actual constitutional question... Is birthright citizenship guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment? That was five four; Kavanaugh didn't join on those grounds.
Rush LindellWait, wait, wait, so one justice basically fought a different fight?
ReaganExactly. Chief Justice Roberts wrote the majority opinion, and according to SCOTUSblog, he said kids born to parents unlawfully or temporarily present are citizens at birth, tracing that straight back to the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment. Amendment:
Rush LindellRobert's going full history professor on us. I love it.
ReaganBut Kavanaugh peeled off; he agreed the order had to go just on statutory grounds instead.
Rush LindellSo it's not a clean knockout, it's a split decision with an asterisk.
Speaker 3Right.
ReaganThat's the headline nobody's reading past paragraph three.
Rush LindellOf course they're not. Meanwhile, guess who's already back on his phone?
ReaganLet me guess.
Rush LindellAccording to Fox News, Trump posted on Truth Social demanding Congress... Or start to day on legislation to kill
ReaganHmm.
Rush Lindellbirth right citizenship for good.
ReaganWhich legally is a strange ask given five justices just said the Fourteenth Amendment itself protects it.
Rush LindellStrange ask, sure, but when has that ever stopped him?
ReaganFair point.
Rush LindellSo now we've got a President demanding a law that may not survive the court that just ruled and a Justice who might have handed Congress the exact blueprint to try.
ReaganWhich raises the real question: What did Kavanaugh actually write, and does it hold up?
Rush LindellBuilding on that five four crack, let's talk about the guy who created it: Kavanaugh.
ReaganRight. He agreed the order had to die, just not for the reason everyone thinks.
Rush LindellOh this is where it gets fun. He didn't say the Fourteenth Amendment killed it.
ReaganHe said a nineteen fifty two immigration statute did: the Immigration and Nationality Act, not the Constitution.
Rush LindellSo the amendment survives untouched, but Congress apparently left They left the side door open the whole time.
ReaganThat's the argument; and according to Fox News, Kavanaugh went further: he basically wrote lawmakers a memo.
Rush LindellA memo-I love it. Give me the quote.
ReaganTechTimes reported his concurrence said "Congress could amend that law or pass new legislation carving out exceptions to birthright citizenship.
Rush LindellSo a sitting justice just handed the GOP a permission slip: Sign here, restrict away.
ReaganThat's one read, but slow down, because that permission slip has a landmine under it.
Rush LindellHold on, hold on-what land mine?
ReaganFive justices-the actual majority-just rejected the theory that the Fourteenth Amendment
Rush LindellWow.
Reaganlets you carve out exceptions at all.
Rush LindellRight, the five four split we just walked through.
ReaganSo if Congress passes a new statute restricting birthright citizenship, that same five justice bloc is sitting right there waiting.
Rush LindellSo Kavanaugh's road map leads to another lawsuit.
ReaganSlate ran a piece calling it "an opening for Trump's side. I'd hardly a win yet!
Rush LindellAn opening that just walks you back into the same brick wall.
ReaganThat's the risk. Congress could pass something tomorrow, and it still has to survive the constitutional question, not the statutory one.
Rush LindellIt's a trap dressed up as a gift, classic Kavanaugh.
ReaganWell, I wouldn't call it a trap necessarily; he's inviting the political branches to act instead of the court dictating everything.
Rush LindellSure-inviting-sounds like handing someone a rope and calling it a gym membership. Worship.
ReaganThat's one way to put it.
Rush LindellAnd you know who's already treating this gift like Christmas morning? The White House.
ReaganWhich is where this gets messy fast.
Rush LindellOh, it already is. Wait till you hear what Stephen Miller sang on Fox tonight. Building on that legal wall, Stephen Miller just went on Fox News and
ReaganWow.
Rush Lindellcalled this ruling a deep knife wound in the heart of the American Republic.
ReaganA knife wound over an immigration statute?
Rush LindellI'm calling him Doomsday Stephen from here on out. Man treats every SCOTUS loss like the fall of Rome.
ReaganIt's not just him. J.D. Vance told Laura Ingraham the fight is hanging by a thread, and he's vowing to keep- To keep pushing.
Rush LindellHanging by a thread! Reagan, five justices just told you the thread snapped!
ReaganRight. And that's the contradiction nobody in the West Wing wants to sit with. Trump wants Congress to pass
Rush LindellSomething quick, simple, done.
ReaganMeanwhile Miller and Vance are out there treating it like a five alarm civilizational emergency.
Rush LindellYou can't have both; either this is a quick legislative fix or it's the end of the Republic; pick one.
ReaganDoomsday Stephen picked end of the Republic, obviously.
Rush LindellThere's substance buried in the theater, though. IBTimes reported administration officials are now looking hard at birth tourism-people flying in just to give birth on American soil.
ReaganWait, that's actually a real thing?
Rush LindellIt happens, but here's the wrinkle: federal law already criminalizes the visa fraud schemes Miller's describing; no new amendment required for that piece.
ReaganSo the knife wound speech is partly solving a problem that's already illegal?
Rush LindellPartly, yeah. Doesn't mean birth tourism isn't real; it means the rhetoric's outrunning what the ruling actually changed.
ReaganDoomsday Stephen, ladies and gentlemen! diagnosing a wound the DOJ already has a bandage for.
Rush LindellAnd that gap between rhetoric and remedy, it's about to get bigger once you see what Senate Republicans are proposing next.
ReaganForget the birth tourism angle a second, Reagan; take me into the real fight, Rand Paul.
Rush LindellHe filed his amendment back in April, before the ruling even landed. The Washington Examiner reported it caps automatic citizenship to kids of citizens, legal permanent residents or service members.
ReaganSurgical; I like it.
Rush LindellAnd he's not waiting on Congress. WorldNetDaily reported this week he's taking his state legislature by state legislature, Kentucky first, and, in his words, he wants to: To "get it done one state at a time.
ReaganThe article hive back door-nobody does that-that's legislative archaeology!
Rush LindellRare, but he's serious about it.
ReaganFine, camp one; who's writing with him?
Rush LindellMike Lee and Ron DeSantis. Lee posted minutes after the ruling that Congress needs an amendment. DeSantis called it a major defeat on Fox and said only an amendment or a future court flip fixes this.
ReaganAnd Johnson?
Rush LindellSpeaker Johnson told reporters birthright citizenship has been abused. used" Time reported that the same day, which tells you where his head's at.
ReaganSo that's the Amendment Caucus; now hit me with Camp Three.
Rush LindellThis one doesn't touch the other two at all.
ReaganGo on.
Rush LindellTom Cotton's got his own bill, the Constitutional Citizenship Clarification Act. Fox News reported John Cornyn and Rick Scott are each pushing separate proposals targeting birth tourism.
ReaganThree senators, three bills, same problem.
Rush LindellNo Amendment in sight, just statute, statute, statute.
ReaganSo let's tally it, Reagan: Trump wants one clean law today—no amendment; Miller and Vance want to keep swinging in court and on camera; Paul, Lee and DeSantis want to rewrite the Constitution itself.
Rush LindellAnd Cotton, Cornyn and Scott are off writing bills nobody asked them to write.
ReaganFour camps, one party.
Rush LindellAnd every camp thinks the other three are wasting the moment.
ReaganThis isn't a party with a strategy; this is a party with a suggestion box. box.
Rush LindellThat's not far off, honestly.
ReaganThe ruling didn't just cost Republicans a case, it showed they never agreed on the fix to begin with. Building on that mess-picture the room, windowless, Capitol Hill, every senator pitching a fix at once!
Rush LindellOh no!
ReaganRand Paul's in the corner yelling 'Amendment!' Cotton slamming a statute on the table, DeSantis is on speakerphone and nobody's picked up.
Rush LindellMeanwhile, Trump's bumper sticker says "No Amendment Necessary" and Paul's literally got "Amend the Constitution" on his truck.
ReaganTwo bumper stickers, one party, zero coordination.
Rush LindellIt's a band that can't agree on the key, let alone the song.
ReaganSomebody's playing statute blues-somebody's doing amendment jazz.
Rush LindellAnd our knife wound guy is just screaming over both of them.
ReaganStop; I can't.
Rush LindellFunny bit, doesn't fix anything, though.
ReaganNo, but here's what gets me. Nobody in that room has said out loud which plan actually wins.
Rush LindellBecause they can't.
ReaganHmm.
Rush LindellTrump wants a law by Friday; Paul's out here building a whole Constitutional coalition state by state.
ReaganOne guy's sprinting, the other guy's running a marathon, and they're both wearing the same jersey.
Rush LindellAnd that's the generous read; the ungenerous read is nobody's actually counted the votes-
ReaganVotes! Right; that's the part that should scare everybody in that room.
Rush LindellBecause the real math behind any of these bumper stickers? It's brutal.
ReaganYeah, let's go there.
Rush LindellSince we're doing math, let's do the real math. Article 5, two-thirds of both chambers, then 38 states. Three-fourths have to ratify.
Speaker 3That's it? Easy.
Rush LindellThe last time that happened was 1992. Twenty-seventh Amendment. Congressional pay raises.
Speaker 3That's not exactly the Birthright Citizenship fight.
Rush LindellNo, and Congress hasn't cleared that bar for anything this size? Since
Speaker 3Fine, forget the Amendment-what about Cotton and Cornyn and statute?
Rush LindellSame Wall. A new statute still lands in front of the same five-justice block that just struck the order down.
Speaker 3So Kavanaugh's invitation to legislate was basically a locked door with a welcome mat.
Rush LindellThe ACLU's Cody Wofsy said this week he doesn't expect a
ReaganBuilding on that math, let's zoom out: this is Trump's third gut punch from this court in one term.
Rush LindellRight. As SCOTUSblog's own Term Wrap called it out, tariffs struck down, the Lisa Cook firing blocked, and now birthright citizenship.
ReaganThree swings, three misses-the nickname machine's getting a workout this year.
Rush LindellBut none of those losses actually settled anything. This one just kicked the ball into a Congress that can't agree on the yard. On the yard line.
Speaker 3Rand Paul's got his amendment, Cotton's got his bill, Nobody's got sixty votes.
Rush LindellAnd now it's a mid term issue instead of a courtroom issue.
Speaker 3So here's my verdict: the court didn't end this fight, it just moved the ring.
Rush LindellThat's fair. The Constitution held, the politics didn't.
Speaker 3Politics never does.
Rush LindellWe'll see who actually shows up to vote on it.
ReaganSo that's the hour! SCOTUS slaps down the Birthright order, Kavanaugh hands Congress a permission slip and the GOP immediately starts fighting itself over how to use it.
Rush LindellRand Paul wants an Amendment. Cotton wants a statute. Nobody's got the votes for either.
ReaganMeanwhile, Stephen Miller's out there talking knife wounds again.
Rush LindellThe real story isn't But the ruling, it's that the fight just moved to a Congress that can't agree on lunch.
ReaganThe Court didn't end this fight, folks. It just handed it somewhere messier.
Rush LindellAnd that's worth watching heading into the midterms.
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ReaganYeah, I'm Rush.
Rush LindellI'm Reagan.
ReaganWe'll see you tomorrow.
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