Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast

Recent episodes

1. Why They Tried to Silence This TV Meteorologist

   Jul 7, 202657 min

   When Chief Meteorologist Chris Gloninger started connecting the dots between extreme weather and climate change in a red state, he expected a challenge—but he didn’t expect a death threat. After his station management told him to dial back the science, Chris chose to step away from the TV camera to protect his integrity. In this episode, host Dr. Dana Fisher digs into Chris's journey from a censored newsroom to the cutting edge of climate risk communication at Woods Hole. Discover how we can cut through the noise of partisan echo chambers, find common ground, and brace for the upcoming Super El Niño without losing our collective optimism.

2. The Most Overlooked Climate Solution Isn’t Technological

   Jun 23, 202658 min

   What happens when the climate movement focuses entirely on data and strategy, but completely ignores the human hearts carrying the load? In this episode, Dr. Dana Fisher sits down with best-selling author and leader Dr. Katharine Wilkinson to navigate our transition into a mapless political world under the new climate reality. Together, they discuss why the relentless question of "What can I do?" is actually the sign of much deeper human yearnings, and how we can turn our collective climate ache into structured, heart-forward action. Drawing vital historical parallels to the Black church, feminist circles, and Quaker meeting houses, this episode is a soothing, gritty compass for anyone looking to turn their climate anxiety into hope and their rage into shared collective joy.

3. How to Break Through Big Oil’s Disinformation

   Jun 9, 202654 min

   What happens when a global superpower starts dismantling its own scientific infrastructure to protect a dying industry? In this episode, Dr. Dana Fisher sits down with acclaimed Harvard historian Dr. Naomi Oreskes to map out the terrifying parallels between current American rollbacks in science and historic authoritarian regimes. They break down the mechanics of modern disinformation networks, explain how market forces are winning the green transition anyway, and reveal why Big Oil's recent political bribes are actually a sign of sheer panic. Forget passive "hope"—this episode is a call to turn appropriate, targeted anger into the fuel that drives real systemic climate action and pushes back against authoritarianism.

4. Adam Conover Demands You Reclaim Your Political Power

   May 27, 202648 min

   We’ve been conditioned to believe that changing the world means voting with our wallets, withholding our clicks, or publishing the perfect takedown online. Comedian and labor activist Adam Conover joins Dana R. Fisher to dismantle this myth and expose why digital outrage is exactly what big tech platforms want you to settle for. True civic power doesn't live on a server—it exists in your physical presence at a local meeting, a union hall, or a neighborhood association. This episode is a fast-paced, witty blueprint for moving past systemic helplessness and executing micro-actions that actually ripple upward.

5. Why Solidarity Is So Hard — and How We Build It Anyway with Rashawn Ray from Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast

   Feb 24, 202654 min

   In Episode 2 of the Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast, Dana talks with Dr. Rashawn Ray about the realities of building solidarity in a deeply divided moment. From his work with communities-of-color and police departments to learning from the Black Lives Matter movement, Dr. Ray breaks down what works, what doesn’t, and how people can show up as more effective racial justice advocates right now.

6. Apocalyptic Optimist Episode 1 from Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast

   Feb 4, 202655 min

   In the inaugural episode of the Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with Rachel O’Leary Carmona and Tamika Middleton from the Women’s March about what we can learn from the Free America Walkout. https://cece.american.edu/explore/apocalyptic-optimist-podcast/