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What does it cost to make music, and what does it give back? Come Back to Earth is a weekly music interview podcast where host J.D. Murgolo sits down with musicians and songwriters to explore mental health, creative survival, and the stories hidden behind the songs. We go beyond the stage to uncover the wounds, turning points, and hard-won hopes that shape an artist's life. Through honest conversations about the creative process, music and mental health, and what it means to keep going, this is a show where the music is the doorway — and the soul is the destination. Because the most important thing an artist makes isn't the record. It's the decision to come back to themselves.
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In this episode of Come Back to Earth , I reflect on the grounding power of having something small you can control — a dial, a cable, a circuit — when the rest of life feels unpredictable. I then sit down with music technology veteran and journalist Robin Vincent to talk about modular synthesis, hardware culture, and why building electronic music by hand keeps people curious, engaged, and sane. This conversation explores tactile creativity, community, and the difference between scrolling presets and crafting sound from scratch. It also asks a bigger question: In an era of instant generation, what do we lose — and what do we gain — when we stop building things ourselves? This is an episode about process, presence, and the quiet joy of plugging cables into possibility. Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish From the Studio This episode is part of Come Back To Earth, produced by Story House. We believe story is a tool for meaning-making, not just performance. Leave a voice message or reflection The Letterbox I read every letter. If something in this episode landed for you, or raised something you're still sitting with, I'd love to hear it. Email me at: storytellingpods@gmail.com Find the House Long-form writing and studio notes: https://story-house.beehiiv.com/ Support this work: http://storyhousestudio.org/community Presence over persuasion. Consistency over frequency. http://storyhousestudio.org (00:00) - Robin Vincent (00:07) - Opening Memory (00:38) - Introduction (00:57) - Episode Orientation (01:25) - Interview with Robin Vincent (32:37) - Closing (33:36) - Outro
Elle Indigo has been finding words for things most people leave unnamed. She started in poetry, the private kind, written for no one in particular. Then the words started needing music underneath them. And somewhere in that transition she discovered something about the difference between writing to process and writing to connect. This conversation goes into that space. The vulnerability of making something personal and then handing it to a room full of strangers. The way metaphor can say the thing you couldn't say directly. What it costs to stand on a stage with a song that came from somewhere real and trust that the audience will meet you there. Elle doesn't have it all figured out. That's what makes this worth listening to. --- From the Studio This episode is part of Come Back To Earth, produced by Story House. We believe story is a tool for meaning-making, not just performance. Leave a voice message or reflection The Letterbox I read every letter. If something in this episode landed for you, or raised something you're still sitting with, I'd love to hear it. Email me at: storytellingpods@gmail.com Find the House Long-form writing and studio notes: https://story-house.beehiiv.com/ Support this work: http://storyhousestudio.org/community Presence over persuasion. Consistency over frequency. http://storyhousestudio.org
Some stories don’t change. We do. In this episode, J.D. sits down with Brittney Jenkins to discuss her song 'Bend to Break' from her album 'Faultlines'. Brittney explores themes of identity, distance, generational trauma, and the power of reframing the past after growing up in a conservative North Carolina community and building a life in the UK. This conversation covers music as a tool for healing, the artist's creative process, and the strength required to bend instead of break. Key topics include: - Generational trauma and identity - Music and mental health - The creative process of songwriting - Healing through storytelling Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- From the Studio This episode is part of Come Back To Earth, produced by Story House. We believe story is a tool for meaning-making, not just performance. Leave a voice message or reflection The Letterbox I read every letter. If something in this episode landed for you, or raised something you're still sitting with, I'd love to hear it. Story House 370 Mallard Loop Dr. Clayton, NC 27527 Find the House Long-form writing and studio notes: https://story-house.beehiiv.com/ Support this work: http://storyhousestudio.org/community Presence over persuasion. Consistency over frequency. http://storyhousestudio.org
Grief doesn’t always arrive as tears. Sometimes it arrives as instinct, the sudden, sharp reflex to call someone who isn’t there anymore. I’m sitting down with Canadian folk-pop songwriter Joe McLeod to talk about his single, “ARROWS” the first release from his upcoming album TORN . Written over years of reflection following the loss of his father at age 22, “ARROWS” explores the weight of becoming the protector. From writing in solitude on an acoustic guitar to intimate house shows in Switzerland, this conversation explores loss not as a one-time event, but as a lifelong reshaping. In This Episode: Navigating the loss of a parent in early adulthood. Understanding grief as an evolving process, not a destination. The journey of writing alone versus the energy of the studio. Creating a shared, present-moment refuge for the audience. Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- From the Studio This episode is part of Come Back To Earth, produced by Story House. We believe story is a tool for meaning-making, not just performance. Leave a voice message or reflection The Letterbox I read every letter. If something in this episode landed for you, or raised something you're still sitting with, I'd love to hear it. Story House 370 Mallard Loop Dr. Clayton, NC 27527 Find the House Long-form writing and studio notes: https://story-house.beehiiv.com/ Support this work: http://storyhousestudio.org/community Presence over persuasion. Consistency over frequency. http://storyhousestudio.org
Some songs are written during the day. Others are built in the quiet hours, when no one is watching, when exhaustion meets inspiration, and when something inside refuses to let you sleep. I’m joined by Danish pop artist Emilie Thorsby to talk about her single, “Late Night”—a vibrant celebration of hardworking musicians in an era increasingly shaped by AI and automation . From global radio play (including a surreal first spin in Uganda) to studio sessions fueled by disco beats and live saxophone, Emilie shares why she believes in breath over perfection and live performance over simulation. This is a conversation about the craft of songwriting , the ethics of AI in the music industry, and the simple truth that some things can’t be generated, they can only be lived. Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- From the Studio This episode is part of Come Back To Earth, produced by Story House. We believe story is a tool for meaning-making, not just performance. Leave a voice message or reflection The Letterbox I read every letter. If something in this episode landed for you, or raised something you're still sitting with, I'd love to hear it. Story House 370 Mallard Loop Dr. Clayton, NC 27527 Find the House Long-form writing and studio notes: https://story-house.beehiiv.com/ Support this work: http://storyhousestudio.org/community Presence over persuasion. Consistency over frequency. http://storyhousestudio.org
Some songs are written to be heard. Others are written to be seen. I’m joined by singer-songwriter Lavender Fire to discuss her debut album, From Shadows to Light . Her work is a four-year journey of reclaiming parts of herself and stepping fully into her identity. Built primarily around piano and voice, the album traces a profound arc from self-realization to radical self-acceptance. Connect with Lavender Fire HERE Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- From the Studio This episode is part of Come Back To Earth, produced by Story House. We believe story is a tool for meaning-making, not just performance. Leave a voice message or reflection The Letterbox I read every letter. If something in this episode landed for you, or raised something you're still sitting with, I'd love to hear it. Story House 370 Mallard Loop Dr. Clayton, NC 27527 Find the House Long-form writing and studio notes: https://story-house.beehiiv.com/ Support this work: http://storyhousestudio.org/community Presence over persuasion. Consistency over frequency. http://storyhousestudio.org
Growth isn’t always about finding a voice; often, it’s about the decision to stop softening the one you already have. Today, we sit with Germany-based artist Alex Loeb to explore the shift from genre-controlled narratives to the raw clarity of direct expression . Connect with Alex Loeb HERE Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish
What happens when the song you’re singing no longer fits the person you’ve become? Growth isn’t always a loud breakthrough; sometimes it is the quiet act of stepping out of the center to see the entire picture. Today, we sit with returning guest Charlie Void to explore the messy, honest alchemy of reinvention . We follow the thread from being dropped by a label to finding a new rhythm with Golden Factory Records in Florence. This is a meditation on the shift from being a "pop artist" to becoming a producer , and the autonomy found in a 15-track album that finally feels like home. Whether you are navigating a career transition or seeking artistic autonomy , this conversation is an invitation to trust your own timeline. The Thread of This Conversation: The "Threshold" of leaving the center to find your perspective Shaping EDM and Pop sensibilities into an honest body of work The Mental Health of the independent artist: Moving beyond marketability What it means to create music that simply "needs to exist" Stewardship of your own art after a major industry shift Connect with Charlie Void HERE Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- If this episode sparked a memory, a question about the craft, or a story you’d rather speak than type, come sit at our table. You can leave a voice note for the studio at: https://www.speakpipe.com/FragileMoments
In this episode of Come Back to Earth , J.D. reflects on how a familiar melody can suddenly sound different when something within us shifts. He sits down with artist and producer Anthony Church to explore his creative evolution from a background beat-maker to a front-facing artist releasing instrumental music . In This Episode: Finding your voice through the discipline of daily practice. Shifting from producer to artist: The journey of creative autonomy . Melody-first composition and creating an emotional atmosphere. Creativity as resilience and nervous system regulation. Why certain songs meet us differently as we move through different seasons of life. Connect with Anthony Church and his music HERE Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- If this episode sparked a memory, a question about the craft, or a story you’d rather speak than type, come sit at our table. You can leave a voice note for the studio or explore our resources for creators at: https://www.speakpipe.com/FragileMoments
What if music wasn't an escape, but a way to stay present? We explore the joy of making music and how songs build a music community when we need it most. Not every song is written to last forever. Some are written simply because they feel good in the moment—because they sound like a crowded room when you’re alone, or because they make the silence feel a little less heavy. In this episode, J.D. reflects on the first time music felt like true company: not as a performance to be judged or an escape to another world, but as a grounding presence. We are joined by New Jersey-based singer-songwriter Eric Harrison to discuss his latest album, Bittersweet . Eric shares the story behind his anthem “Sal’s Place,” a tribute to the sweaty basements and wobbly decks where the joy of music is found in its purest form. Together, they explore the rare honesty that comes from creating art simply because you love it, and how a shared melody can foster a deep sense of music community . This conversation is an invitation to value nostalgia without bitterness and to rediscover the joy of making music for the sake of the craft itself. Join us as we discuss why some songs don't need to change your life, they just need to keep you company. Connect with Eric Harrison and his music HERE Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- If this episode sparked a memory, a question about the craft, or a story you’d rather speak than type, come sit at our table. You can leave a voice note for the studio or explore our resources for creators at: https://www.speakpipe.com/FragileMoments I listen to every note personally during my Friday stewardship hours. No pressure to be polished, just be human.
In this season premiere of Come Back to Earth , host J.D. Murgolo reflects on the early Saturday mornings of his youth, music drifting down a hallway, a house quietly breathing, and the inheritance we don’t recognize until it’s already part of us. J.D. sits down with Michael Gilas to explore the songwriting inspiration that moves beyond the spotlight and into the lived experience of the listener. In This Episode: The Living Inheritance: How the music of our childhood shapes our internal landscape. Beyond the Spotlight: Finding the quiet honesty in Michael Gilas’s creative journey. Music as Legacy: Why some songs have the power to outlive their creators. Presence in Sound: An unscripted music conversation about the art of listening. Connect with Michael Gilas and his music HERE Go backstage HERE Theme music by: Lincoln Parish --- If this episode sparked a memory, a question about the craft, or a story you’d rather speak than type, come sit at our table. You can leave a voice note for the studio or explore our resources for creators at: https://www.speakpipe.com/FragileMoments
A new season is arriving. Come Back to Earth returns this March with a new season of conversations at the intersection of music, memory, and mental health. Season 3 sits with artists as they reflect on the songs that steadied them, the moments that broke them open, and the music that helped them find their way back to themselves. These are quiet, honest conversations about creativity as survival and sound as something that holds us when words fall short. Produced by Not Today Media. New episodes begin this March.
In our Season 2 finale, we sit with D.K. Lyons, a singer-songwriter whose artistic journey has been shaped by personal tragedy, unwavering advocacy, and a fierce commitment to using music as a tool for both healing and social change. Born in Massachusetts, D.K. began writing songs as a way to process profound loss, discovering that music could hold what ordinary language couldn't carry. But his artistry has evolved far beyond personal expression into something that actively engages with the world's injustices and possibilities. His upcoming EP Darling Kiss Louder represents an ambitious fusion of influences — drawing inspiration from classical literature while critiquing contemporary digital culture, centering women's voices while tackling systemic issues, creating art that's both deeply personal and broadly political. This conversation explores how tragedy can become a catalyst for advocacy, how artistry and activism intersect, and what it means to create with both vulnerability and purpose. It's a fitting close to our second season and a powerful reminder that healing work is never just individual — it's always connected to the larger project of creating a more just and beautiful world. What We Talk About: Balancing artistic vision with authentic emotional experience The responsibility that comes with having a platform Using creativity as a tool for both personal and social transformation The ongoing choice to remain engaged with life's full emotional spectrum Resources: Connect with D.K. Lyons and his music HERE Support the show: Not Today Media Theme music by: Lincoln Parish A Note from JD: D.K.'s conversation felt like the perfect way to close our second season because it embodies everything this show aspires to be: deeply personal yet broadly relevant, artistically ambitious yet emotionally honest, individual yet collective in its vision. His commitment to using his platform for advocacy reminds us that creativity isn't separate from consciousness, that healing isn't separate from justice, that the work of becoming fully human necessarily involves working for a world where others can do the same. If you're an artist wrestling with how to balance personal expression with social responsibility, or anyone trying to figure out how to stay engaged with the world's pain without being crushed by it, I hope D.K.'s story offers both inspiration and practical wisdom. Come Back To Earth exists to explore these intersections between creativity, healing, and social change. Thank you for being part of this community, for supporting these conversations, and for doing your own work of creating meaning from difficulty. Season 3 will bring new voices, new stories, and new explorations of what it means to be human in complex times. Until then, keep creating, keep caring, keep coming back to whatever grounds you in hope. Your voice matters. Your story matters. The work continues.
In this episode, we sit with Jody Cooper, a D.I.Y. artist and full-time father whose music emerges from the intersection of creative necessity and lived experience. Jody's story isn't about chasing musical success in traditional terms — it's about using songwriting as a tool for processing mental health struggles, pandemic reflections, and the complex realities of modern parenthood. The conversation explores how the pandemic served as a catalyst for deeper reflection on mental health, creativity, and resilience. We discuss the particular challenges of being an independent artist while managing family responsibilities, and how music can serve as both personal therapy and a bridge to others navigating similar experiences. Jody's approach to creativity is refreshingly honest — he creates not from a place of having answers, but from a need to explore questions. His music reflects the raw, unpolished reality of someone working through life's complexities in real time, without pretense or easy solutions. What We Talk About: How the pandemic forced a reckoning with mental health and creative purpose Balancing independent artistry with full-time parenting responsibilities Using music as a tool for processing difficult emotions and experiences The role of vulnerability and honesty in authentic songwriting Finding resilience through creative expression during uncertain times The intersection of mental health awareness and artistic practice Creating meaningful art outside traditional industry structures Resources: Listen to Jody Cooper's music HERE Support the show: Not Today Media A Note from J.D.: Jody's conversation reminded me why I'm drawn to artists who create from necessity rather than ambition. There's something deeply honest about musicians who use their craft primarily as a tool for understanding and processing their own experience, and who share that work not because they think they have answers, but because they know others might be asking similar questions. If you're an artist trying to balance creativity with other responsibilities, or someone using creative expression to work through mental health challenges, I hope Jody's story offers you both permission and encouragement. The most necessary art often comes from the least glamorous places — from the daily work of showing up, processing, and choosing to keep creating even when the path isn't clear. Come Back To Earth exists to honor these kinds of authentic creative journeys and the profound humanity they reveal. If these conversations resonate with you, consider supporting the show. Your struggles are valid. Your voice matters. Keep creating from wherever you are. Theme music by: Lincoln Parish
In this episode, we sit with James Snelling, a neurodivergent singer-songwriter whose journey into music began not in youth but in midlife, after losing his job and facing the kind of life upheaval that forces you to reconsider everything you thought you knew about yourself. James's story challenges conventional narratives about when and how artistic careers begin. His path to sharing his music publicly came through loss and transformation, proving that creativity doesn't follow standard timelines and that some of the most authentic art emerges from life's disruptions rather than its certainties. We explore how neurodivergence shapes his songwriting, the unique perspective that comes from feeling like an outsider, and the courage required to share vulnerable art when the world has already signaled that you don't quite fit its expectations. What We Talk About: Finding music as a voice for neurodivergent experience and feeling different Beginning an artistic practice in midlife after career upheaval Writing about mental health, addiction, and social justice from lived experience The relationship between neurodivergence and creativity Creating art that refuses to be palatable or easily categorized The courage required to share vulnerable, honest songwriting How difference can become artistic strength rather than limitation Resources: Listen to James Snelling's music Support the show: Not Today Media A Note from J.D.: James's conversation reminded me that some of the most necessary voices in music are those that have been waiting the longest to be heard. His willingness to begin sharing his art in midlife, after experiencing significant life disruption, speaks to something beautiful about human resilience and the way creativity can emerge from unexpected places. If you've ever felt like you don't fit the traditional mold of what an artist should be — too old, too different, too late to the game — I hope James's story offers you permission to begin anyway. The world needs the songs that only you can write, the perspective that only you can offer. Come Back To Earth exists to celebrate these kinds of unconventional artistic journeys and the profound humanity they reveal. If these conversations resonate with you, consider supporting the show. Your difference is not a deficit. Your timing is your own. Your voice matters. Theme music by: Lincoln Parish
In this episode, we sit with Perfect Cadence, a band whose music serves as a lighthouse for anyone navigating the complex terrain of mental health, isolation, and the ongoing work of healing. Their approach to songwriting isn't about offering easy answers or quick fixes — it's about creating space for difficult emotions and transforming them into something that can be shared, understood, and held. We explore how their song "Shine" became a lifeline for listeners struggling with depression and isolation, the responsibility that comes with creating art that addresses mental health, and the power of music to bridge the gap between individual experience and collective understanding. This conversation touches on themes that feel especially relevant in our current moment: how we support each other through difficult seasons, the importance of speaking openly about mental health struggles, and the way that honest art can become a form of connection and healing. What We Talk About: The genesis of "Shine" and its message of hope for those struggling with mental health How music can serve as both personal processing and public healing The responsibility of creating art that addresses difficult topics Building community through vulnerable storytelling The role of music in mental health awareness and support Finding hope without minimizing struggle The power of saying "you're not alone" through song Resources: Listen to Perfect Cadence's music HERE Support the show: Not Today Media A Note from J.D.: This conversation with Perfect Cadence reminded me why music matters so much in conversations about mental health. There's something about melody and rhythm that can carry truths our regular speaking voices might struggle to hold. Their willingness to address depression and isolation head-on, while still offering genuine hope, feels both brave and necessary. If you're in a season where "just staying" feels like the best you can do, I hope this episode offers you both permission to be where you are and gentle encouragement for the journey ahead. The light returns, but it's okay if you can't see it yet. Come Back To Earth exists to create space for these kinds of honest conversations about the intersection of creativity and mental health. If these stories resonate with you, consider supporting the show. You matter. Your story matters. Keep going. Theme music by: Lincoln Parish
In this episode, we sit with Mars Hendrik, a musician and coach whose journey from Costa Rica to international stages is really a story about learning to climb — not just toward success, but toward the fullest expression of who you're meant to be. Mars grew up immersed in a rich blend of musical influences, from Santana's guitar mastery to Sublime's laid-back rebellion, and these early sounds became the foundation for a career that spans over a decade of inspiring audiences across continents. But what makes Mars's story unique isn't just his musical evolution — it's his understanding that true performance is about more than entertainment. It's about transformation. We explore how Mars has learned to be both artist and guide, helping others find their own voices while continuing to develop his own. His approach to music and coaching reveals someone who understands that potential isn't just waiting to be discovered — it's waiting to be claimed, one courageous step at a time. What We Talk About: Growing up in Costa Rica and the musical influences that shaped his artistic foundation The evolution from passionate musician to international performer How cultural diversity influences creative expression and artistic identity The intersection of music and personal development Learning to guide others while continuing your own growth journey The role of music in helping people connect with their potential Building confidence through creative expression and performance Resources: Connect with Mars Hendrik's music: HERE Support the show: Not Today Media A Note from J.D.: Mars's conversation reminded me that some of the most powerful artists are those who understand that their gift isn't just about what they can create — it's about what they can awaken in others. His approach to music as both personal expression and collective inspiration feels especially relevant in a world hungry for authentic connection and guided growth. If you're on your own creative climb, whether that's musical, professional, or personal, I hope Mars's story offers you both inspiration and practical wisdom. The summit you're reaching for isn't just about arriving somewhere new — it's about becoming someone new in the process. Come Back To Earth exists to explore these intersections between creativity, personal growth, and the ongoing work of becoming who we're meant to be. If these conversations resonate with you, consider supporting the show on Substack, where we continue diving deep into the stories that shape us. Keep climbing. Keep creating. Keep trusting the path. Theme music by: Lincoln Parish
In this episode, we sit with Lepani, an artist whose journey through the music industry reads like a map of what it costs to lose yourself — and what it takes to find your way back. Lepani's story begins in the bedroom studio, creating the kind of honest, experimental music that emerges when no one is watching and nothing is at stake except the pure joy of making something beautiful. But as his career progressed and industry pressures mounted, that creative freedom began to erode. What started as artistic guidance slowly became artistic control, until the music he was making felt more like performance than expression. The toll was real: mental health struggles, creative burnout, and the particular kind of loss that happens when the thing you love most becomes the source of your pain. But this isn't just a story about what the industry can take from artists — it's about what happens when an artist decides to take it back. Now independent and based in the UK, Lepani is rebuilding his relationship with music on his own terms. He's sharing his story openly, knowing that artistic authenticity and mental health are deeply connected, and that someone else might need to hear they're not alone in the struggle. What We Talk About: * The evolution from bedroom pop experiments to industry pressures * How creative control can be slowly and subtly eroded * The mental health impact of losing artistic authenticity * The decision to go independent and what that means * Rebuilding a sustainable relationship with music and creativity * The importance of speaking honestly about industry struggles * Finding freedom in creating for yourself rather than for approval Resources: * Listen to Lepani's independent work: HERE * Support the show: Not Today Media A Note from J.D.: Lepani's conversation struck me deeply because it illuminates something we don't talk about enough: how the pursuit of musical success can sometimes distance us from the very thing that made us want to make music in the first place. His story isn't unique, but his willingness to speak about it honestly is both brave and necessary. If you're an artist struggling with similar questions about authenticity, independence, or finding your way back to the joy of creating, I hope this episode offers you both company and courage. The path back to yourself isn't always linear, but it's always worth taking. Come Back To Earth exists to hold space for these kinds of honest conversations about creativity, mental health, and the ongoing work of staying true to yourself in a world that profits from your compliance. If these stories resonate with you, consider supporting the show on Substack, where we continue exploring these themes with the depth and care they deserve. Keep creating. Keep questioning. Keep coming back to what's real. Theme music by: Lincoln Parish Leave a comment on the episode HERE Get full access to Come Back To Earth at comebacktoearth.substack.com/subscribe
Some love stories begin with fireworks. This one began with a railroad conductor, a circus artist, and a song. When Michael and Kayo met online, they were each carrying a lifetime of stories—some beautiful, some heavy, and all still echoing in how they showed up in love. Instead of running from their pasts, they did something brave: they wrote through them. Together, they left the familiar behind and started over in Dixon, New Mexico, where the landscape is wide and the healing feels just a little more possible. Through songwriting, they began to name their traumas, rebuild trust, and give voice to the versions of themselves they were still learning how to love. This episode is a window into that process—honest, unfiltered, and full of hope. Whether you’re partnered or on your own path, Michael and Kayo’s story reminds us that healing doesn’t have to be perfect. It just has to be true. 🔗 Follow Box Canyon Barbies: Website Theme music by: Lincoln Parish Leave a comment on the episode HERE Subscribe to the show: Not Today Media Get full access to Come Back To Earth at comebacktoearth.substack.com/subscribe
What happens after you’ve already grown up… but your heart still has some catching up to do? Composer and songwriter Adam Schumaker calls this next chapter “the second growing up” —a quiet reckoning with love, loss, and the slow understanding that we never stop becoming who we are. From his roots in Kalamazoo, Michigan, to the haunting beauty of his new album Love, Death, Sleep, Money , Adam has learned to turn personal transformation into poetry. In this conversation, we talk about the sacred mess of middle life, the role music plays in navigating grief and joy, and why songwriting isn’t about finding the answers—it’s about holding space for the questions. If you’ve ever stood at a threshold and asked, Now what? , this episode is for you. 🔗 Follow Adam: Instagram Theme music by: Lincoln Parish Leave a comment on the episode HERE Subscribe to the show: Not Today Media Get full access to Come Back To Earth at comebacktoearth.substack.com/subscribe
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