Derek: Everyone, welcome back to Vaporware. I'm Derek, and as always, I'm here to ask the dumb questions. Hey, not dumb questions, necessary questions. So remember our SpaceX S-1 episode?
Grant: The one where the pitch deck basically claimed the company owns the entire economy.
Derek: Basically, well, plot twist, the stock just slipped below that $135 IPO price.
Grant: Wait, already?
Derek: It just went public a month ago, and it's been sliding.
Grant: So what happened to the Trillion-Dollar dream?
Derek: That's exactly what we're getting into. We're revisiting that wild $28.5 trillion market claim,
Grant: the one where they said they'd basically own AI space and connectivity.
Derek: that one, and we're checking the math against what SpaceX is actually bringing in.
Grant: I've got my spreadsheet ready. The math doesn't work, and everyone knows it. Or at least that's my hunch going in.
Derek: We'll see if you're right. We'll also relive the IPO euphoria, Musk's trillionaire moment, the record raise.
Grant: And then watch it all wobble.
Derek: Exactly. Plus, there's an earnings date on the calendar that could get messy.
Grant: Messy how?
Derek: August 4th, and two days later, a massive chunk of insider shares unlocks.
Grant: Oh, that's not great timing.
Derek: Yeah. We'll also get into just how much of the float's already betting against. Getting against this thing.
Grant: Wait, really? People are shorting it already?
Derek: Oh, plenty. We'll get into the numbers.
Grant: Can't wait. Let's rewind the tape.
Derek: Back to where the story started. At the S-1. Okay, remember our S-1 episode? We called that $28.5 trillion TAM the oldest pitch in Silicon Valley, just dressed up in rocket fuel.
Grant: Wait, didn't we already do this one? Why are we back here?
Derek: Because the market just tested it. Bloomberg reported SpaceX shares dipped below their $135 IPO price on July 15th, a month after the June 12th debut.
Grant: Hold on, below the IPO price? A month out?
Derek: Yep, TechCrunch had the stock touching $133 intraday before it crawled back to close at $135.27.
Grant: So the biggest IPO pop in history just evaporated?
Derek: Pretty much. Fool.com puts it at a 36% drop from the post-IPO peak, near $202, down to $129 a share.
Grant: 129? That's brutal.
Derek: And some outlets tracking it since have it worse, closer to 45% off the peak, which wipes out something like $1.4 trillion in paper value.
Grant: A trillion four. Gone. In a month.
Derek: In a month.
Grant: Wait, wait, wait. So which number's real? 36 or 45?
Derek: Depends which day and which peak you're measuring from. Either way, that's a lot of rocket fuel burning off fast.
Grant: So if the TAM pitch was the engine,
Derek: The stock price is the re-entry and it is not going smoothly.
Grant: so what exactly was in that $28.5 trillion number that got everyone this excited in the first place? Peace.
Derek: So the pop and the crash are the story everyone saw; the math nobody read is the story I want.
Grant: Okay, walk me through the actual numbers. What's in this twenty eight point five trillion dollars?
Derek: The S-1 splits it three ways: three hundred and seventy billion dollars from space itself-launch, satellites, the stuff SpaceX actually does.
Grant: Fine," that tracks.
Derek: Then one point six trillion from connectivity. Starlink, basically.
Grant: Still following?
Derek: And then twenty six point five trillion-from AI.
Grant: Wait, a rocket company's AI number is bigger than the entire rest of the pitch combined?
Derek: By a mile. And one line item inside that bucket, "enterprise AI applications," is twenty two point seven trillion on its own.
Grant: Wow. Say that number again.
Derek: Twenty two point seven trillion. bigger than Japan's entire economy, bigger than Germany's.
Grant: For a company that, last I checked, launches rockets.
Derek: Right? Bears pick this apart fast. The implied valuation puts SpaceX above Meta's market cap.
Grant: 28.5 trillion own less revenue than Macy's. I read that comparison too, and it stopped me cold.
Derek: SpaceX's actual 2025 revenue was 18.7 billion. seven billion.
Grant: eighteen point seven billion versus a twenty eight point five trillion dollar market they say they can grab.
Derek: Right; and nobody in that filing says by when.
Grant: No time line at all?
Derek: None. Zero.
Grant: So let's do the gut check math. What growth does that actually require?
Derek: Over one hundred fifty thousand percent revenue growth to hit the full number.
Grant: One hundred fifty thousand percent.
Derek: With no year attached to it.
Grant: Sure; no big deal; just multiply revenue by fifteen hundred.
Derek: When you put it that way-
Grant: I put it that way because that's what the number means. How does a bank let that line item through underwriting without someone raising a hand?
Derek: That's the question. Somebody signed off on twenty two point seven trillion dollars for enterprise AI apps sitting next to a rocket company's balance sheet.
Grant: The paper math was never the hard part here. PART here.
Derek: No, the hard part's what happens when real investors actually have to price that on IPO day.
Grant: Which, from what I remember, went absolutely wild.
Derek: Oh, it did. Buckle up. Rewind June 12th, IPO day. TechCrunch pegged the raise at nearly $86 billion, the biggest IPO in history, priced at $135 a share.
Grant: 86 billion for a rocket company that's still bleeding cash?
Derek: Right, and the market didn't care. Within four days, shares hit $225.64 intraday. Reuters had SpaceX briefly worth more than both...
Grant: Both Wow.
Derek: Amazon and Microsoft that same week.
Grant: Wait, bigger than Microsoft? Even for a second?
Derek: For basically an afternoon, Market Cap flirted with two point nine trillion at the top.
Grant: And Musk?
Derek: CNBC called it "the IPO made him the world's first trillionaire—on paper at least.
Grant: Nice bonus for a company that lost close to five billion last year.
Derek: Yeah, we'll get to that math, but the part that actually explains the wild swings-
Grant: Please tell me it's not more Trillion-Dollar TAM stuff.
Derek: No, simpler; only about four per cent. of SpaceX's shares actually floated at the IPO; the rest is Musk and insiders, locked up.
Grant: Four percent? So basically nobody's trading?
Derek: I'm protecting the real company.
Grant: Almost nobody, and then Nasdaq fast tracked it into the Nasdaq-100 after just fifteen trading days, the fastest ever.
Derek: Which means index funds had to buy in no matter the price!
Grant: JP Morgan estimated that forced buying at four point three billion dollars, hitting that thin float.
Derek: So a tiny sliver of shares, real buyers, plus billions in forced index money-how was that price even real?
Grant: Nobody wanted to ask that in June. Everyone just wanted a piece of it.
Derek: Sugar high now, headache later, I'm guessing.
Grant: Oh, the headaches already started, and it's brutal. So the number everyone's throwing around now, the stock actually broke the IPO price.
Derek: Broke it. Not just approached it broke it.
Grant: TechCrunch had this: Shares dipped as low as one hundred thirty three dollars in mid July, dead in the middle of the one thirty two to one thirty three dollar range before it clawed back to close around one thirty five twenty seven.
Derek: So for a few hours anyone who bought at the IPO was underwater.
Grant: Exactly, and depending on which day and which peak you're measuring from, the Motley Fool has it down thirty six percent off the peak. Off the post IPO high.
Derek: Ooh! Thirty six per
Grant: Mm
Derek: cent!
Grant: -mm.
Derek: That's not a dip; that's a face plant.
Grant: Gravity's a rocket company's best friend and worst enemy, apparently.
Derek: Somewhere Newton is laughing.
Grant: Okay, but here's the part that really got me: Morningstar's Nicolas Owens put out a note pegging fair value at sixty-three dollars a share!
Derek: Sixty-three dollars? That's less than half the current price!
Grant: Less than half, and he's calling it overvalued after the crash!
Derek: So Morningstar is saying this thing could fall another fifty percent and still be expensive.
Grant: That's their read, yeah. It's one analyst's model, not gospel, but it's a rough one to publish the same week the stock is already bleeding.
Derek: I mean, at some point the market has to pick a number and stick with it.
Grant: You'd think. But wait, there's a wrinkle that's very twenty twenty-six. Oh,
Derek: I already don't like where this is going. Tokenized SpaceX shares-the kind trading on platforms like Backpack Securities-saw volume spike as retail piled in on the crash.
Grant: Tokenized equity volume exploding to three point eight six billion dollars-billion with a b-on tokens of a stock that's currently going the wrong direction.
Derek: It's the same old buy the dip instinct drove
Grant: It led to dressed up in blockchain-New wrapper, old impulse. People see a falling star and think discount,
Derek: not warning sign. Which fair,
Grant: sometimes it is a discount; this time the question is whether the fundamentals justify catching it. Okay,
Derek: so if the price is cracking, something underneath has to be cracking too. Numbers don't just drift for no reason. Funny you should ask,
Grant: because it turns out one division of this company has been because it turns out one division of this company has been It's been quietly setting cash on fire.
Derek: Oh, I love it when you say it like that!
Grant: Billions a quarter. We'll get into exactly how many.
Derek: Can't wait.
Grant: Building on that cash bonfire? Get this: The AI division alone is the real leak. Motley Fool broke down SpaceX's numbers and found the AI segment lost about $2.5 billion in a single quarter.
Derek: Two and a half? Wait, that's just the AI unit? Not the whole company?
Grant: Just the AI unit. xAI, basically, bolted onto a rocket company.
Derek: Wow.
Grant: And Starlink's actually fine. Yahoo Finance has Starlink at... Think at 10.3 million subscribers, revenue up roughly 50%.
Derek: So one division's printing money and the other is setting it on fire.
Grant: Pretty much. Starlink's the boring, reliable business. The AI story is the one investors actually bought the trillion-dollar pitch on.
Derek: Okay, but here's my blunt question. If the AI numbers are the whole bet, what's happening with the rocket everything depends on?
Grant: You're going to love this part. Starship's 12th test flight, the booster flipped 90 degrees the wrong way at stage separation.
Derek: 90 degrees? Like sideways?
Grant: Sideways. TechCrunch reported SpaceX blamed slight differences in engine startup timing. The booster never recovered, blew up before splashdown.
Derek: Great. Love that for a company whose whole future depends on reusable rockets.
Grant: And it gets messier. The 13th flight, the one carrying the first... The first real Starlink V3 payload aborted right at ignition on July sixteenth.
Derek: Wait, wait, aborted how far in?
Grant: T-zero: Engines were literally lighting and it scrubbed. Four of thirty-three Raptors didn't fire.
Derek: So it's not even a launch failure, it's a pre-launch failure.
Grant: First one of its kind in the whole program. Musk said they're swapping engines and trying again.
Derek: So walk me through this. The AI division's torching billions and the hardware that's supposed to justify the space part of the valuation can't even get off the ground clean?
Grant: That's the shape of it. Two different failure modes, same Trillion-Dollar story.
Derek: I mean... How do you trust the AI revenue projections when the rocket can't hit stage separation right?
Grant: Honestly, you don't blindly. You wait for the numbers.
Derek: And there's a date for that, isn't there?
Grant: Oh, there's a date, and it's got a second surprise baked right into it. Shifting to what's next, CNBC reported SpaceX finally locked in a date: August fourth, first earnings report ever as a public company.
Derek: The actual report card, finally!
Grant: And two days later, on August sixth, CNBC says up to nine hundred eleven point five million insider shares on lock, twenty percent of the restricted stock walking free right after the numbers drop.
Derek: So the people who already know the real AI burn get to sell right when everyone else is just reading the report?
Grant: That's the timing, yeah.
Derek: Rough.
Grant: There's a second number too: CNBC reported roughly a third of the tradable float has sold short right now.
Derek: A third! That's serious money betting the AI story doesn't hold.
Grant: Musk posted on X calling it "short sellers won't survive." He's clearly tracking the same number.
Derek: Confidence isn't a balance sheet.
Grant: Every con this show has walked through, Terra slash Luna, Polymarket, now this, none of them needed a flat out lie.
Derek: Just the story that outran the math for a while.
Grant: For a while, August fourth is when SpaceX's math finally gets a microphone.
Derek: And nine hundred eleven point five million shares get the green light to walk out the door two days later.
Grant: We'll find out which one's louder. So that's the SpaceX story so far.
Derek: Wow.
Grant: Shares.
Derek: It's actually dipping below their $135 IPO price a month after that huge debut.
Grant: TechCrunch had that headline right before the Starship launch. Kind of brutal timing.
Derek: And remember our TAM callback? We called that $28.5 trillion number the oldest pitch in Silicon Valley, just dressed up in rocket fuel.
Grant: 18 billion in real revenue chasing a trillion dollar promise. That gap doesn't close overnight.
Derek: The takeaway: big total addressable markets on a slide deck aren't the same as money in the bank.
Grant: It's the same emotional trap car buyers fall into. Fall in love with the story, forget to check the numbers.
Derek: If you liked this one, tell a friend who still believes every pitch deck they read.
Grant: Subscribe wherever you're listening and leave us a review. It genuinely helps. only helps.
Derek: Thanks for spending the time with us today.
Grant: We'll catch you next episode chasing the next trillion-dollar story.
Derek: Same math, different rocket.