Brass Pittsburgh and the Sequel Problem
Show notes
What the episode covers
With Gen Con 2026 opening Thursday, Grant and Miles put their own hype-versus-demand framework on trial, grading three of the show's biggest crowdfunds against real numbers before the doors even open.
The pair dig into Brass: Pittsburgh's record-setting $9.1 million Gamefound raise, debating whether its new railway theme and first-ever variable player powers justify the hype or simply ride the brand of a top-ranked BoardGameGeek title. They then turn to Restoration Games' The Lord of the Rings: The King's Gambit, Rob Daviau's reskin of the cult favorite Star Wars: The Queen's Gambit, questioning whether its four-front card mechanic earns grail-game status or just a bigger price tag. Rounding things out, they assess Archon Studio's StarCraft: Tabletop Miniatures Game and whether turn-based rounds can capture the tension of real-time strategy.
It's a candid look at how crowdfunding totals, brand power, and demo lines can distort what actually makes a game good.
Timeline
In this episode
7 moments worth skipping to. The timecodes match the player above.
- 0:15Introduction
- 1:49The Scorecard, and Why We Kept It
- 3:34Grading the Brass Bet
- 6:26A Grail Game Gets a New Coat of Paint
- 8:44Can a Zerg Rush Fit on a Table
- 11:15What We'd Demo Thursday Morning
- 13:32Outro
Quick answers
Straight from the episode
The questions this one settles, without the listen.
- Did Brass: Pittsburgh's $9.1 million Gamefound raise prove its new design is good?
- Not necessarily. Grant initially framed the record-setting total (reported by BoardGameWire) as market validation, but Miles pushed back that a sequel to the top-ranked game on BoardGameGeek would sell well regardless of quality. The hosts ultimately gave split grades, and Grant later admitted he conflated brand strength with actual design validation.
- What is The Lord of the Rings: The King's Gambit and how is it related to Queen's Gambit?
- It's Restoration Games' reskin of the cult favorite Star Wars: The Queen's Gambit, involving Rob Daviau. It uses a shared-hand mechanic spread across four battlefronts and features deluxe, oversized components, raising debate over whether the spectacle serves gameplay or just marketing hype ahead of its crowdfund launch.
- How does StarCraft: Tabletop Miniatures Game try to capture the real-time feel of the video game?
- Instead of real-time play, it uses a phased round structure with per-round initiative to simulate speed and tension. Grant and Miles debate whether this substitution works, with AdeptiCon's near sell-out cited via ICv2 as the strongest demand signal so far.
- What demand signals are the hosts using to evaluate hyped Gen Con 2026 releases?
- They rely on hard evidence like Gamefound crowdfund totals, convention sell-out data (e.g., AdeptiCon numbers from ICv2), and visitor guide figures rather than hype alone, though they acknowledge tools like demo line length mainly measure marketing, not design quality.
- What mistakes did Grant and Miles admit about their own predictions in this episode?
- Grant admitted his call that Brass: Pittsburgh's crowdfund success validated its design conflated brand strength with quality. Miles admitted his enthusiasm for King's Gambit's components was a bias unsupported by any actual sales data.
- What are the next checkpoints the hosts plan to revisit for these games?
- They set September's King's Gambit crowdfunding campaign and the Brass: Pittsburgh fulfillment period as the next milestones to reassess whether their predictions and grades hold up.
Transcript
The full conversation
Every word of the episode, 2,241 of them, in the order they were said.
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GrantWelcome back to the Design Deck. Gen Con kicks off Thursday, and Miles, we've got some predictions to grade before the doors even open.
MilesOh, I've been dreading this. Get Indiana's got the show running July 30th through August 2nd, so the clock's ticking.
GrantExactly. Get this. I built a whole hype versus demand framework last year, and today we find out if it actually holds up.
MilesI remember that framework. Bold claims were made.
GrantWait for it, because one crowdfund number this year just shattered records. We're talking numbers that made veteran backers do a double take.
MilesWhich one? Don't tease me.
GrantPatience, that's segment one.
MilesFine, fine. But I want to talk Brass Pittsburgh too, that King's Foundry has people arguing whether the new railway theme actually earns the hype or just rides the brand name.
GrantSplit grades incoming, I promise you that.
MilesAnd then there's the King's Gambit. Restoration Games is bringing back that cult Star Wars design as a Lord of the Rings reskin.
GrantFour-front card mechanic, towering deluxe box, grail game, or just a really expensive box?
MilesWe'll get into it. Plus, StarCraft's top-top miniatures game. AdeptiCon nearly sold out demos and we're asking if turn-based rounds can replicate real-time chaos.
GrantBig questions, bigger toy boxes.
MilesAlright, let's start where every good grading session should be, with your framework and whether it survived contact with reality.
GrantBe gentle. Gotta get this out of the way first: preview episode, I said the Brass reprint would struggle to hit half its funding goal.
MilesAnd?
GrantI was wrong. Embarrassingly wrong.
MilesThat's kind of the whole reason we're doing this segment, right? We made calls and now there's real evidence sitting on the table instead of vibes.
GrantCrowdfund totals, ship dates—what actually shows up at a table at a convention, not what we hoped would show up.
MilesAnd the timing matters: it's Wednesday. The Indianapolis floor hasn't opened. That's Thursday morning.
GrantSo no floor reports, no "I walked past a line and it felt long," just the paper trail.
MilesWhich is still a massive trail. Gen Con runs July 30th through August 2nd, Indiana Convention Center, plus Lucas Oil Stadium for overflow.
GrantThey needed an NFL stadium for board games?
MilesOver 70,000 attendees, more than 600... 600 exhibitors, something like 20,000 ticketed events across four days.
GrantThat's not a hobby weekend anymore. That's a small city relocating.
MilesSo that's the stage. Question is whether the games we bet on earned that crowd or just borrowed it.
GrantMy rule for grading any of it: Hype is a price you pay. Demand is a signal you read. People mix those up constantly.
MilesMeaning?
GrantA packed booth tells you people showed up. It doesn't tell you the game's any good; money changing hands before anyone's played it, that's a bet on a name, not a design.
MilesFine, let's start with a number that's hardest to argue with.
GrantGo for it.
MilesOne crowdfund campaign this year raised enough to make grown designers weep.
GrantSo when a design bet nearly breaks the internet in cash pledged, is that demand talking or just really expensive hype?
MilesLet's find out.
GrantBuilding on that tease, Brass Pittsburgh just crossed $9.1 million on Gamefound.
MilesWhistling 9.1? That's not a typo.
GrantNope. Board Game Wire called it the biggest board game crowdfund of 2026 so far.
MilesSo the commercial half of your prediction just landed.
GrantLanded hard. Anyone betting against Roxley's name was wrong.
MilesFine, but money answers one question. Does the redesign actually hold up?
GrantThat's the real question. Brass swaps canals and cotton for railways, pipe lines, steel mills, oil refineries.
MilesRobber barons' stuff. Zatu Games reported Carnegie and Rockefeller show up as actual historical figures.
GrantWhich points to variable player powers—everyone plays with different abilities—a first for this whole line.
MilesFirst time ever! That's a real swing on the core system, not a coat of paint.
GrantSkeptically Roxley's own campaign posts had
Speaker 3been
Granthad Gavan Brown saying he had zero interest in making "the Matrix Four.
MilesTranslation: no lazy sequel riding on nostalgia.
GrantRight. Every Brass title has to earn its mechanics-that's his stated bar.
MilesOkay, my problem, though: original Brass tells a story about shared networks: you connect cities, goods flow, everyone's economy grows together.
GrantQuick note for anyone new: network building just means you're drawing links between cities. The links between locations and your network shape becomes your engine.
MilesExactly-give people separate powers and now it's four different tool kits racing each other instead of one shared engine.
GrantWhich some players will love; more replay variety, less solved strategy problem.
MilesSure, but it's a different game emotionally—canals and cotton already carried baggage—slavery, colonial trade—and Roxley's materials address that directly.
GrantThey did?
MilesRailways and oil barons carry their own. Carry their own baggage, monopolies, labor abuse, robber baron excess—same weight, different century.
GrantHere's my actual grade: the money proves nothing about the table. Wargamer called the original the world's favorite board game on release.
MilesWait, the literal top ranked game on the whole site? That ranking.
GrantA sequel to that raises nine million whether the new rules are brilliant or broken.
MilesFair; reputation alone fills a Gamefound page.
GrantSo mine's incomplete; B for ambition; no grade for design until people actually play it in Indianapolis.
MilesI'd land lower, B-minus. Asymmetric powers on a network game is a real gamble, and Gilded Age theming has to earn its seriousness, not just its steel mills.
GrantDifferent grades-go find the Roxley demo table Thursday and see who's right.
MilesFunny thing, Brass isn't the only resurrection walking the floor this weekend.
GrantOh?
MilesThere's a grail design coming back from the dead too, except this one is trading on rarity instead of a best-seller list. Now flip that on its head. Brass had a fan base already lined up. This next one has one that's been begging for 25 years.
GrantThe Queen's Gambit thing?
MilesSort of. Wargamer broke this back in March. Restoration Games and Space Cowboys are reviving Star Wars: The Queen's Gambit, the 2000 game that turned into an unobtainable grail on the secondary market, except now it's Middle-earth.
GrantThey rescan Naboo into Minas Tirith?
MilesPretty much. It's the Lord of the Rings: The King's Gambit, Rob Daviau Leading Design, and SlashFilm had the exclusive on the reveal.
GrantSo a cold game nobody could buy becomes a license re game. Does that carry the magic or just the price tag?
MilesThat's the real question, and it's built off the books, not the films: four fronts running at once, Pelennor Fields, Minas Tirith, Pelargir, and the road to Mount Doom.
GrantHow's that actually play?
MilesA single shared hand of cards for all four battles. Every card you spend somewhere is a card you don't have somewhere else.
GrantThus, so your hand's the currency, and you're rationing it across four different accounts: starve one front, feed another.
MilesExactly, and Mount Doom doesn't care if Minas Tirith falls; brutal tradeoffs.
GrantFine, the mechanic checks out; what I don't trust is the marketing. Restoration's own press release calls it the "ultimate grail game." That's a lot of pressure for something that isn't even funding yet.
MilesRight. Zatu Games and Restoration's own creator update both say crowdfunding on the deluxe edition opens September 2026. Retail version follows 2027.
GrantSo whatever's on the floor at Gen Con this week.
MilesIs a demo, not a sale. Nobody's ringing a register.
GrantGood, because I've seen the renders,--towering three dimensional menace tear at some kind of Mordor piece rising off the board.
MilesThe same coverage-it's striking stuff.
GrantStriking stuff that photographs well on the pledge page and adds forty bucks to the tier. Does it change how Four Fronts actually play or does it just make people gasp?
MilesGuess we find out once people push cardboard around it instead of a camera.
GrantSpeaking of translation problems:
MilesNext door, somebody's translating a completely different one, real-time speed forced into turns.
GrantSwitching gears from grill games to a video game brand hitting the table for real.
MilesStarCraft. I've been waiting for this one all convention season.
GrantArchon Studios' StarCraft tabletop miniatures game finally shipped March 31st, and it's a skirmish war game. Small squads, one map, you're fighting for objectives, not just kill counts.
MilesRight, and for anyone who never touched the video games, StarCraft is a real-time strategy game. Game: everybody's moving and building at the same time, no turns.
GrantWhich is the whole design problem: you strip out the clock and what's left holding the tension together?
MilesSo how'd they solve it?
GrantGamefraggers' breakdown lays out the round structure, movement, assault, combat, then scoring and clean-up; every round same five beats.
MilesThat's a lot of sequencing for a game built on chaos.
GrantIts "initiative per round," basically: whoever wins initiative picks who acts first in each phase. It's their answer to "who's faster.
MilesDoes it actually feel like StarCraft, though? Or does it feel like a war game wearing a StarCraft skin? Again:--
GrantHonestly I've only read the phase breakdown, not played it, but on paper initiative swinging every round is a way to stand in for real time pressure; it's not the same feeling, but it does real work.
MilesMm-hmm. I'll believe it when I see Zerg actually overwhelming someone at the table!
GrantFair-let's talk money before we grade it. Gamefraggers pricing rundown has the two player Founder's Edition-Terran and Zerg-around two hundred nineteen dollars. Protoss comes in lower; about a hundred nine dollars.
MilesThat's steep for a starter, but it's not wild for minis gaming.
GrantNo; it's in line with the category.
MilesWhat actually matters to me? ICv2 reported the game nearly sold out on day one at AdeptiCon.
GrantNearly sold out at a convention that's mostly Warhammer people?
MilesThat's the tell. Video-game-to-miniatures crossovers usually flop-remember Halo Ground Command never even made it past prototype stage.
Speaker 4Right.
GrantSo AdeptiCon selling out is basically the only real demand signal we've got before Indianapolis.
MilesExactly why I want to watch the Gen Con demo line, not the marketing.
GrantMy grade, mechanically-a B. The phase structure is a smart answer to a hard problem, even if it can't fully fake real time chaos.
MilesI'd go higher on excitement, lower on proof; a B minus until I see Zerg rushing an actual table.
GrantFair split. Three games in, three different bets, and now the only question left is, what do you actually do with your badge Thursday morning? Okay, before we let people loose on the show floor Thursday, grades-real ones, not vibes.
MilesYou go first; you're the one who opened this episode admitting a bad call.
GrantRight, right, so does that list get a fourth name after today?
MilesDoes it?
GrantBrass Pittsburgh-I called the Rays validation. It's validation of the brand, not the redesign. I said those were the same thing-and they're not.
MilesThat's an honest miss, not an excuse.
GrantWhat about you? Where'd you whiff?
MilesQueens Gambit, I assumed deluxe components automatically meant deluxe demand. No sales data yet, just my own bias towards shiny plastic.
GrantBig shock, the guy who catalogs every classic car also loves shiny things.
MilesLow blow! Where did you get one right?
GrantStarCraft. I said the initiative system would split reviewers down the middle, and it did, right here, 30 seconds ago.
MilesFair. Mine was Pittsburgh's Ray's number. I called that. called that one before it hit, and it landed almost exactly where I guessed.
GrantOkay, floor plan. Someone standing outside the convention center Thursday morning with three demo slots. What do they burn them?
MilesStarCraft, no question. You need hands on those minis and that initiative track to know if it plays fast or plays fiddly.
GrantAgreed. Brass, though, skipped the demo. Buy retail when it ships. The game plays are known quantity. You're paying for components at that point. Point and
MilesKing's Gambit isn't even available yet. Crowdfunding's not live. Wishlist it. Don't line up for it.
GrantAnd don't judge any of the three by line length. Long lines mean marketing worked, not that the design's good.
MilesStarcrossed Q at AdeptiCon told us people showed up. It didn't tell us if the game's actually fun after round six.
GrantExactly. Hype gets you in line. Only the table tells you if it's worth the wait.
MilesSo here's the actual homework for us, not the Not the listeners: September.
GrantSEPTEMBER?
MilesKing's Gambit's crowdfunding campaign opens. That's when we get real numbers instead of press release numbers.
GrantAnd Brass fulfillment starts landing in people's houses not long after. That's when the redesign either earns its raise or doesn't.
MilesTwo checkpoints, two grades we can't fake.
GrantI'll bring the spreadsheet.
MilesOf course you will.
GrantThat's a wrap on Gen Con week.
MilesGrant, your hype versus demand line is sticking with me on the Pittsburgh Brass, which
GrantRight. A sequel to the top game on BoardGameGeek was always going to hit that record.
Milesis why I still want proof the new variable powers hold up at the table, not just in the pledge count.
GrantFair. Money talks, but it doesn't design the game.
MilesIf you're at the show, watch Queen's Gambit and StarCraft get demoed before you trust anybody's hype.
GrantGot a game you want us to take apart?
MilesTell us at design.thedeck.com or tag us on social. New episodes drop every Thursday.
GrantSubscribe so you don't miss September's fulfillment check-in. Thanks for hanging out with us.
MilesSee you on the show floor!
GrantAnd
MilesPeace.
GrantPeace.
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