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The Minsk Dialogue Rule is a podcast that brings together diverse perspectives on international security across the Euro-Atlantic and Eurasian space. It is based on a simple principle: two people who already agree with each other should not enter the same discussion room. Otherwise, another echo chamber is created. This podcast is brought to you by the Minsk Dialogue Council on International Relations. For more podcasts and research on international security and regional affairs, visit www.minskdialogue.by.
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In our opening episode, hosts Alisiya Ivanova and Yauheni Preiherman are joined by Ambassador Thomas Greminger, Executive Director of the Geneva Centre for Security Policy and former Secretary General of the OSCE. We talk about whether there is still a place for cooperative security, why deterrence needs to be paired with dialogue, and why giving up is “not an option.” (00:00) Welcome to the show. (04:33) Is Ambassador Greminger an optimist or a pessimist? (09:15) Lessons from an initiative that tried to prevent the war. (13:37) Is there still a place for a Vancouver-to-Vladivostok vision? (18:14) Why deterrence without dialogue isn’t enough. (23:29) How small “islands of cooperation” can rebuild trust. (28:05) Can the OSCE still play a useful role? (33:20) Why Ambassador Greminger refuses to give up on dialogue. (37:11) What’s missing from the way we talk about security. (40:12) Closing remarks.
A short welcome episode where Alisiya Ivanova and Yauheni Preiherman of the Minsk Dialogue Council on International Relations introduce the podcast, explain the idea behind its name, and talk about why echo chambers are among the core causes of today’s wars and conflicts. They also address the Eurasian-versus-European security debate, explain why perceptions matter, and set out how the series will look for realistic ways forward in regional security.
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