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Published by Susan Trodden and Tracey Olivier
The Sandwich Club is a podcast for women in the middle — the ones holding it all together while being pulled in every direction. Kids, ageing parents, work, money, relationships, changing bodies... and the quiet question of “is this it?” Hosted by two midlife women with different lives but a shared sense of humour, this is not a self-improvement podcast and it’s not a crisis either. It’s real conversations about the long middle — what’s shifting, what’s surprising, what’s quietly hard, and what’s unexpectedly freeing. There’s laughter, honesty, the occasional uncomfortable truth, and a lot of recognition. If you’ve ever felt stretched, slightly invisible, or wondering what comes next — you’re not alone. Welcome to The Sandwich Club.
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We're at that age where we're holding hands, holding families together, holding back tears and occasionally holding a glass of wine. But who's holding us? This episode we have our first official guest, Cynthia Ward, who is the founder and former CEO of True Colours. We talked about dying, grief and the sacredness and beauty of a subject that is so emotionally charged.
There are some things everyone seems to love. Camping, yoga, networking, fancy cheese. And then there is the rest of us. This week we are talking about things we have pretended to enjoy, things we have tried to understand and things we can finally admit, actually I don't like it. So what does everyone else rave about that you just don't get? The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
Apparently forgiveness is good for you. Fine. But doesn't forgiving someone mean you actually have to speak to them again? This week we are talking grudges, boundaries, and the point where you realise you are not resentful anymore – you just don't particularly care. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
We like to think we are pretty easygoing. Until someone loads the dishwasher wrong. this week we are talking all the things we have become particular about. How to make a cup of tea, where things go in the fridge and which way the toilet roll hangs. Turns out we are very relaxed people, as long as everyone does things properly. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
How honest is too honest? Should you mix your friendship groups? Are secrets ever okay and are soul-mates really a thing? This week we tackle some tricky questions and get into the unwritten rules of friendships and relationships. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
Dylan Thomas told us not to "go gentle into that good night", but then he wasn't dealing with dodgy knees, reading glasses and getting up twice in the night. This week we are borrowing his famous poem to talk about ageing. What are we fighting, what are we accepting and when did getting older become something we are all supposed to do so positively? Do you want to rage against the dying of the light? Or just make a little bit of a fuss along the way?
The difficult conversations that arrive as parents age. Needing help, accepting help and what happens when "I'm fine" clearly isn't the whole story. Not a how to, just grappling with the reality of trying to have that conversation at all.
There was a time when a Viennetta meant you had guests coming over, After Eights came out after dinner, and having a microwave meant you'd really made it. In this episode, we're looking back at the food, gadgets, holidays and little luxuries we once thought were incredibly sophisticated. Prawn cocktails. Fondue sets. Duty-free perfume. A phone in your bedroom. A second television. And the almost unimaginable excitement of getting your photos back from the chemist.
Self check-out: convenient or soul destroying? Is AI exciting or terrifying? Do you have an App for absolutely everything? Which things genuinely make life easier, and which parts of your life have you outsourced to someone else? This week is more recommendations than rants. And if anyone has a good rice cooker recipe, let us know! The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
Supermarket habits, farmers markets, where we shop and why. Food waste and the horrible price of everything. What will you pay extra for or buy on special? We also have some App recommendations for you – Grocer.nz and Kaiwiseapp.com The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
Join us for a deliberately anti ‘Self-Care’ conversation about what we actually do when life is hard. Chocolate, walking, cancelling plans, seeing friends or hiding from them... and the things we are told count as self-care but absolutely don't. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
The little things often become the big memories. This week we're celebrating the family traditions, personal rituals and everyday routines that bring comfort, connection and joy. Which ones have you kept, which have you created, and which are worth passing on? The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
What have you quietly stopped doing as you've got older? In this episode, we're talking about the expectations, obligations and habits we've happily left behind, along with the unexpected things we've embraced. Sometimes the best changes in life start with a simple 'no'. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
Some questions simply don't have a right answer—but they're far too much fun to argue about. Cash or card? Should guests help with the dishes? Real books or Kindle? QR code menus: brilliant or annoying? Join us as we tackle the great debates of everyday life, where opinions are strong, evidence is questionable, and changing your mind is entirely optional. This is Part One... because we definitely haven't settled the arguments yet. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
It's the conversation most of us avoid—until we can't. From navigating the health system and making difficult decisions to planning ahead and having the conversations that matter, we're exploring what it really means to die well. Honest, practical and deeply human, this episode is one every family should hear before they need it. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
How do you want to be remembered? In this episode, we're talking about the legacy we leave—not in our wills, but in the memories, traditions, values and everyday moments that shape the people we love. It's a thoughtful, funny and surprisingly uplifting conversation about living intentionally and creating the kind of legacy that lasts long after we're gone. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
One day you hear yourself say something and realise—with a mixture of horror and amusement—that it came straight from your mother. The phrases. The opinions. The life advice. Even the sigh. In this episode, we're talking about the ways our mothers shape us, the habits we've inherited, the things we swore we'd never do, and the moments when we find ourselves becoming more like them than we'd ever imagined. We honour Susan's extraordinary grandmother and share a story best saved for after a funeral. Because somewhere between rolling our eyes at our parents and becoming adults ourselves, something shifted. And it turns out they may have known a thing or two after all. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
Money has a funny way of getting louder as we get older. In this episode, we're talking about retirement worries, second jobs, side hustles, budgeting, and the strange things we're willing to spend money on while telling ourselves we need to cut back. We're also exploring whether AI can help us get our finances under control—or whether it's just another thing we're paying for. Most of us thought we'd feel more financially sorted by now. Instead, we're still making it up as we go, just with bigger numbers and slightly more expensive mistakes. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
Nobody talks much about the middle years of relationships. Not the exciting beginning. Not the dramatic ending. Just the quiet shifts that happen over time. In this episode, we explore marriage, singleness, companionship, freedom, loneliness, and the surprising truth that every path comes with trade-offs. Because whether you're coupled up, single, divorced, widowed, or somewhere in between, it's hard either way—and that's probably more normal than we think. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
There was a time when success meant saying yes, working harder, climbing higher, and proving ourselves. These days, we're asking a different questions... Is it worth the energy? Has our ambition changed? Or have we simply become more selective? We're talking careers, second acts, work-life realities, and the growing realisation that success looks very different when time and energy feel more precious than ever. The Sandwich Club is for women in the middle — juggling kids, parents, work, money, bodies and everything in between.
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