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ABOTA Speaks is the official podcast of the American Board of Trial Advocates, where history, law, and storytelling meet. Each week, ABOTA members sit down with world-renowned historians, legal experts, and accomplished trial lawyers and judges for insightful conversations about justice, the rule of law, and the art of advocacy. New episodes release every Wednesday.
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Pulitzer Prize finalist and acclaimed historian H.W. Brands joins host Jill Webb for a fascinating conversation about political parties, democracy, and the American jury system. Drawing from his book Founding Partisans: Hamilton, Madison, Jefferson, Adams and the Brawling Birth of American Politics and his own recent experience serving on a civil jury, Brands explores the parallels between jury trials and democratic self-government—and the trust both place in ordinary citizens to listen to competing arguments, weigh the information before them, and make important decisions together. Brands reflects on what jury service taught him about deliberation and the importance of hearing all sides before forming an opinion. He considers what the jury room might teach us about political discourse and shares how the experience gave him a deeper appreciation for judges, trial lawyers, judicial independence, and the American justice system. The conversation offers a thought-provoking look at political parties, civic responsibility, and what the jury system can teach us about making decisions together in a democracy. Learn more about H.W. Brands and his books: H.W. Brands author page Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #JuryTrials #Democracy #JudicialIndependence #RuleOfLaw
Today's workplace includes more generations working side by side than ever before. How can leaders create an environment where every generation feels valued, engaged, and motivated to succeed? Host Jake Courtney is joined by generational expert Amelie Karam to discuss how law firms and organizations can build stronger multigenerational workplaces through intentional leadership, better communication, and meaningful connection. Amelie explains why successful firms move beyond generational stereotypes and instead create cultures where everyone feels heard, needed, and relevant. The conversation explores practical ways to strengthen workplace relationships, provide meaningful feedback, reduce burnout, and retain talented professionals. Jake and Amelie also discuss how these leadership principles apply not only to law firms, but to families, juries, and organizations of every kind. Whether you lead a law firm, mentor young attorneys, or simply want to better understand today's workplace, this episode offers practical insights for leading a multigenerational workforce. Learn more about Amelie: https://ameliekaram.com/ Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #Leadership #Mentorship #TrialLaw #WorkplaceCulture
The ABOTA National Trial College is more than a trial advocacy course—it's an immersive experience designed to help lawyers become more confident, capable, and effective advocates. Host Jake Courtney is joined by our 2026 Co-Chairs, Hon. Patricia Alvarez, Craig Peters, and Rich Schoenberger, to discuss what makes the ABOTA National Trial College one of the Nation’s premier educational programs for trial lawyers. They share how students spend the week learning by doing, receiving hands-on instruction from accomplished trial lawyers and judges, while developing the practical skills needed to succeed in the courtroom. The conversation explores the program's emphasis on professionalism, mentorship, and constructive feedback, along with the supportive environment that allows participants to build confidence by getting on their feet and trying new approaches in a safe setting. They also discuss the lasting friendships and professional relationships that continue long after the week concludes. Whether you are an experienced trial lawyer or an attorney looking to strengthen your trial advocacy skills, this episode offers an inside look at why the ABOTA National Trial College continues to have a lasting impact on the next generation of trial advocates. Learn more about the ABOTA National Trial College: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #TrialAdvocacy #NationalTrialCollege #RuleOfLaw
For 20 years, the Journalist Law School has brought lawyers and journalists together in the shared pursuit of truth, justice, and accurate reporting. In this special anniversary episode, host Jill Webb is joined by Donna Melby, Beth Warren, and Dalila-Johari Paul to reflect on the program's remarkable legacy and its continued importance today. Donna Melby, ABOTA's first female National President and one of the founders of the Journalist Law School, shares how a simple conversation grew into a nationally recognized program dedicated to improving public understanding of the legal system. She reflects on the vision behind the program and ABOTA's longstanding commitment to judicial independence and the civil jury trial. Journalists Beth Warren and Dalila-Johari Paul discuss how attending the Journalist Law School transformed their careers. Beth, a former reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, was a Fellow for the inaugural Journalist Law School in 2006. She is currently a health care reporter for The Tennessean. Dalila, a former senior editor for CNN, is a 2022 Fellow of the Journalist Law School and currently serves as the National Editor for Capital B. They describe gaining a deeper understanding of the law, greater confidence in reporting complex legal issues, and lasting professional relationships that continue to strengthen their work today. Together, they explore why accurate legal reporting matters, how lawyers and journalists can learn from one another, and why the Journalist Law School remains as relevant today as it was 20 years ago. Learn more about ABOTA Learn more about the Journalist Law School ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #Journalism #RuleOfLaw #JournalistLawSchool
Host Jake Courtney speaks with FLABOTA President Alex Reboso about his career, his path to ABOTA leadership, and the upcoming FLABOTA Annual Convention in Orlando, Florida. Alex reflects on the mentors who encouraged him to become more involved in ABOTA and shares how state and regional organizations help develop leaders while strengthening professionalism, civility, and lasting friendships throughout the association. Jake and Alex preview this year's FLABOTA Speaker Series, featuring timely discussions on judicial independence, artificial intelligence, and emerging issues facing today's legal profession. Alex explains why AI has become one of the profession's fastest-growing educational topics and discusses how ABOTA continues to respond to current challenges affecting lawyers and the courts. They also discuss what makes the FLABOTA Annual Convention unique. Designed as a family-friendly event, the convention combines outstanding educational programming with opportunities for members to reconnect with friends, spend time with family, and enjoy everything Orlando has to offer. Whether you are a longtime ABOTA member or attending a regional convention for the first time, this episode offers an inside look at why FLABOTA has become one of ABOTA's premier regional gatherings. Register for the FLABOTA Annual Convention. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #FLABOTA #RuleOfLaw
Host Jill Webb speaks with 2026 ABOTA National President Bill Shapiro and 2026 Michigan Chapter President Cameron Getto about the upcoming ABOTA Summer Conference and National Board Meeting in Detroit, Michigan. Bill and Cameron share why Detroit was selected as the host city and discuss the remarkable transformation the city has undergone over the past two decades. From revitalized historic buildings and thriving downtown neighborhoods to professional sports, restaurants, and entertainment, they offer a preview of what attendees can expect when they arrive in the Motor City. The conversation also highlights the unique value of attending an ABOTA National meeting. They discuss the conference speakers, planned activities, opportunities to explore Detroit, and why the event is designed to be enjoyable not only for members but also for spouses, guests, and families. Whether you are a longtime ABOTA member or have never attended a National meeting, this episode offers an inside look at what makes these gatherings such a meaningful part of the ABOTA experience. Register for the ABOTA Summer Conference and National Board Meeting in Detroit. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #Detroit #RuleOfLaw
Host Jake Courtney speaks with Javier Espinoza, President of TEX-ABOTA, about his journey from immigrant to trial lawyer, law firm owner, and ABOTA leader. Javier reflects on the teachers, mentors, and role models who helped shape his career and discusses the opportunities and relationships that helped him see possibilities he had not previously considered. Jake and Javier also discuss the upcoming TEX-ABOTA Santa Fe CLE Roundup in Santa Fe, New Mexico, including its unique history, nationally recognized speakers, and why it has become one of ABOTA's most anticipated educational and networking events. For information about the Roundup, including registration and hotel accommodations, visit the TEX-ABOTA Roundup registration page . The episode concludes with a discussion of Javier's podcast, LatinX Mentor, and the importance of mentorship for the next generation of professionals. Learn more about LatinX Mentor . Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #Mentorship #Leadership #TEX-ABOTA
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb speaks with Chief Judge Jennifer W. Elrod of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit about civility in the legal profession, the importance of jury trials, and protecting public confidence in the judiciary. Drawing from her experience as both a trial judge and appellate judge, Chief Judge Elrod shares practical wisdom on professionalism, mentorship, and why lawyers must learn to work respectfully with those they may oppose in court. She reflects on how collegiality and civility shape stronger lawyers, stronger courts, and stronger communities. The conversation takes a musical twist as she offers a memorable example of how she teaches these values—through musical performances with her local Inn of Court—showing how creativity and connection can make lessons about professionalism and ethics truly stick. Watch an example from 2020: “We’ll Be Back,” performed by federal trial and appellate judges in Houston and Galveston: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TJ1ohwAsgY The conversation explores the constitutional importance of jury trials, preserving the Seventh Amendment, and why young lawyers need more real courtroom experience early in their careers. Chief Judge Elrod also discusses judicial independence, public confidence in the courts, and the responsibility lawyers have in defending the rule of law. She closes with a reminder that professionalism begins with human connection—stepping away from our phones, listening carefully, and treating one another with respect. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #JuryTrial #JudicialIndependence #Civility
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney speaks with Professor Elizabeth Fraley of Baylor University School of Law about the growing role of artificial intelligence in legal practice and why lawyers should be learning how to use it now. A full-time trial lawyer, law professor, and ABOTA board member, Professor Fraley brings a practical and balanced perspective to the conversation. Rather than asking whether lawyers should use AI, she explains why ethical practice may increasingly require it. They discuss how AI can improve efficiency for clients, reduce costs, and help lawyers work more effectively, from document review and legal research to mediation prep and trial work. Just as important, they discuss the risks: hallucinations, confidentiality concerns, overreliance, and the professional responsibility lawyers still carry to verify every source and exercise independent judgment. Professor Fraley emphasizes that AI is not a replacement for lawyers. It cannot replace empathy, wisdom, advocacy, or professional judgment, but it can be a powerful tool when used thoughtfully and responsibly. She also offers practical advice for lawyers who feel hesitant about adopting new technology: start with one problem you want to solve and work from there. This is a practical conversation about technology, ethics, and how the legal profession can adapt without losing what matters most. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTA #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #ArtificialIntelligence #LegalEthics #TrialPractice
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, we feature an extended conversation with Chief Judges Dori Contreras, Mark Green and Mark Pfeiffer of the Council of Chief Judges of the State Courts of Appeals (CCJSCA) – a strong partner of the American Board of Trial Advocates (ABOTA). Together, they explore the role of appellate courts, the importance of judicial independence, and the shared responsibility of judges and trial lawyers in maintaining public confidence in the justice system. The discussion highlights how collaboration between the bench and bar strengthens the Rule of Law. Key topics include: The mission of the Council of Chief Justices and its role in supporting appellate courts across the country Why public understanding of the judicial process is essential to maintaining trust in the courts and ultimately understanding and maintaining our democracy The importance of collaboration between judges and trial lawyers as partners in the justice system Challenges facing the judiciary, including public perception and political pressures Practical insights for trial lawyers, including preserving the record on appeal and maintaining professionalism The conversation also touches on judicial selection systems across the states and how emerging issues, including artificial intelligence, may shape the future of the legal system. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #JuryTrial #JudicialIndependence #RuleOfLaw
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney converses with SEABOTA President, Christy Crow, about the upcoming SEABOTA Annual Conference, taking place in Charleston, South Carolina, April 23–26, 2026. SEABOTA brings together trial lawyers from across the southeastern United States for a weekend focused on connection, mentorship, and professional growth. This year’s conference—Trial Advocacy in Bloom: Advancing Justice in the Lowcountry—features distinguished speakers, continuing legal education, and opportunities to build meaningful relationships within the trial bar. In this episode, they discuss: Key speakers and topics for this year’s conference The importance of mentorship, professionalism, and community within the trial bar Unique aspects of the conference, including smaller group gatherings and networking opportunities The structure of SEABOTA and its role within ABOTA’s regional chapters Christy and Jake also explore the realities of legal practices in rural communities, including areas with very few attorneys and the resulting challenges for access to justice. Finally, they also touch on the work of the ABOTA Foundation, including a civics education initiative involving a classroom program in Kentucky. A Pathway Forward documentary https://www.kentuckytotheworld.org/blog/a-pathway-forward-one-year-later ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #JuryTrial #SEABOTA #TrialBar
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb converses with Stacy Garcia and Christa Ramey about the upcoming National Women’s Leadership Summit, taking place in Savannah, Georgia, April 9-12, 2026. Now in its second year, the Summit brings together women trial lawyers from across the country for a weekend focused on connection, mentorship, and professional growth. Building on the success of last year’s inaugural event, this year’s program features keynote speakers, panel discussions, and opportunities to build meaningful relationships within the trial bar. In this episode, they discuss: Why the Women’s Leadership Summit was created and why it continues to grow Keynote speakers and panels, including judicial, client, and leadership discussions How the Summit creates a welcoming entry point to national ABOTA involvement The importance of mentorship, community, and supporting women in the trial bar They also highlight the collaborative nature of the event, including its unique structure as a fully self-funded program supported by sponsorships and attendee participation. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #JuryTrial #WomenInLaw #TrialBar
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney sits down with Scott Costantino, a trial lawyer from Jacksonville, Florida, ABOTA leader, and current President of the International Society of Barristers, for a conversation about leadership, service, and involvement in the trial bar. Scott reflects on his early career and how membership in ABOTA began as an aspiration—something to work toward as he gained trial experience and built his reputation in the courtroom. He shares how showing up, volunteering, and raising his hand to serve opened the door to leadership opportunities within the organization. The conversation also explores how the realities of modern litigation—fewer jury trials and increasing costs—have changed the path for younger lawyers seeking courtroom experience. Scott and Jake discuss why organizations remain essential to mentoring the next generation of trial lawyers and protecting the right to trial by jury. Scott also offers perspective from his role as President of the International Society of Barristers, an invitation-only organization of plaintiff and defense trial lawyers that emphasizes professional fellowship and lifelong relationships within the trial bar. Learn more: American Board of Trial Advocates: www.abota.org International Society of Barristers: www.isob.com ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. #ABOTASpeaks #TrialLaw #JuryTrial #TrialBar #RuleOfLaw
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb sits down with John Cuttino and Sean Domnick, co-facilitators of the American Civil Trial Bar Roundtable, to discuss the unique role this organization plays in protecting the civil justice system. The American Civil Trial Bar Roundtable brings together leaders from major plaintiff and defense organizations—including DRI, AAJ, the American Bar Association, and others—for high-level discussions about the challenges facing the civil jury trial system. From artificial intelligence to mandatory arbitration clauses to protecting the judiciary, the Roundtable provides a forum for candid dialogue and collaboration across the trial bar. John and Sean explain: · What the American Civil Trial Bar Roundtable is—and why it was founded · How ABOTA serves as the founder and host organization · Why the structure of the Roundtable is essential to its effectiveness · How diverse trial groups collaborate on issues affecting the profession · Why the Seventh Amendment remains foundational to American democracy They also discuss how the Roundtable’s work extends beyond lawyers—impacting everyday citizens by helping preserve access to meaningful jury trials and addressing emerging threats to the Rule of Law. Learn more: American Board of Trial Advocates: www.abota.org DRI – Association of Lawyers Defending Business : www.dri.org American Association for Justice: www.justice.org #ABOTASpeaks #JuryTrial #SeventhAmendment #CivilJustice #RuleOfLaw #TrialLaw
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney sits down with trial attorney Camille Vasquez, widely known for her cross-examination of Amber Heard in the jury trial where she represented Johnny Depp, for a conversation about preparation, credibility, and the realities of practicing law in high-profile cases. Camille reflects on her early participation in the ABOTA Fellowship program during law school, and how that experience shaped her approach to courtroom advocacy. She discusses the discipline required to build credibility with juries, the importance of preparation, and how lawyers are perceived in the courtroom. The conversation also explores her role in the highly publicized Depp v. Heard trial, offering insight into what it means to try a case under intense national and international scrutiny. Camille shares lessons on composure, professionalism, and maintaining focus when the spotlight is consistent and constant during trial. Topics include: · How the ABOTA Fellowship influenced her career path · The discipline behind effective trial preparation · Juror perception and courtroom credibility · Practicing law in a nationally televised trial · Why civility and professionalism remain essential in modern advocacy Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org #ABOTASpeaks #JohnnyDepp #DeppvHeard #TrialLaw #Litigation
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb is joined by U.S. Judge Robert L. Pitman of the Western District of Texas, U.S. Chief Judge Amos L. Mazzant III, of the Eastern District of Texas, and Justice Chari L. Kelly for the Texas Third Court of Appeals for a candid conversation about jury trials—from the perspective of the bench. Drawing on their collective experience, these judges discuss openly how jurors experience the courtroom, what builds or erodes credibility, and why civility and professionalism remain essential to the future of the jury trial. Their conversation explores how jurors perceive attorneys and witnesses, the subtle details that influence trust, and the responsibility lawyers share in maintaining confidence in the justice system. Along the way, the judges offer thoughtful observations and real-world examples that underscore just how closely juries are paying attention. This episode offers valuable insight for trial lawyers and anyone interested in the evolving role of juries and the enduring importance of credibility in the courtroom. ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. Support the podcast: Subscribe on YouTube, follow us on your favorite podcast app, share this episode or leave a review on Apple Podcasts. We want others to discover these great conversations! Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org
Season 2 of ABOTA Speaks continues with a thoughtful conversation that reflects on leadership, discipline, and the value of historical perspective. Host Jake Courtney is joined by Talmage Boston, a trial lawyer, historian, and author, for a discussion about how studying the past can inform the way we think, lead, and practice law today. Drawing on his experience both in the courtroom and as a writer, Talmage shares insights into the habits of effective leaders, the discipline required for meaningful work, and why long-form thinking still matters. In this episode, the conversation explores: · How Talmage balances trial practice with writing and historical research · What studying leadership across time reveals about preparation, character, and judgment · Why curiosity, discipline, and reflection are essential traits for lawyers and leaders alike ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks. Support the podcast: Subscribe on YouTube, follow us, share this episode and leave a review. We want others to discover these great conversations. Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org Learn more about Talmage Boston: Cross-Examining History Podcast: https://pod.link/1460591295 https://talmageboston.com/ #ABOTASpeaks #ABOTA #Leadership #LegalProfession #TrialLaw #Civility
Season 2 of ABOTA Speaks begins with a conversation that sets the tone for the year ahead and introduces a new rhythm for the podcast. Host Jake Courtney sits down with Bill Shapiro, who will be sworn in as ABOTA’s National President for 2026, to talk about leadership, connection, and the future of the organization. Bill brings a sense of enthusiasm, warmth, and optimism to a wide-ranging discussion about what it means to lead ABOTA at this moment. In this episode, Bill reflects on: What first drew him to ABOTA and the relationships that shaped his long-term involvement Why civility, professionalism, and human connection matter—both inside and outside the courtroom His vision for a welcoming, inclusive year ahead, including opportunities for members to engage, connect, and feel at home in ABOTA Listeners also get a glimpse of Bill beyond the courtroom, including how his personality, interests, and love of community shape his approach to leadership. ABOTA Speaks is now releasing new episodes every two weeks. The next episode will be available on January 21, 2026. Enjoying ABOTA Speaks? Following the podcast, subscribing on YouTube, or leaving a review is a simple way to support the show and help more members discover these conversations. #ABOTASpeaks #ABOTA #Civility
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb talks with the Honorable Clifton B. Newman, ABOTA Honorary Diplomate and one of the Nation’s most respected judicial voices. Known internationally for presiding over the Alex Murdaugh trial, Judge Newman brings decades of experience, insight, and uncommon steadiness to this conversation on civility, judicial independence, and the evolving role of the courtroom in public life. Judge Newman reflects on how judges can model dignity, fairness, and restraint even under intense scrutiny; why civility is essential not just for lawyers but for the health of the justice system itself; and how livestreaming, media attention, and public pressure intersect with the judge’s duty to maintain order and impartiality. He also shares stories from his path to the bench, including the unexpected moment in high school that first sparked his interest in the law, and discusses his transition to mediation following decades of service on the South Carolina Circuit Court. Whether you followed the Murdaugh trial closely or want practical wisdom on professionalism and courtroom leadership, this conversation offers thoughtful guidance from a judge known for his calm, clarity, and commitment to justice. Enjoying ABOTA Speaks? Follow the podcast on your favorite platform, subscribe to our YouTube channel, and consider leaving a review to help others find the show. #ABOTASpeaks #CliftonNewman #CivilityInTheCourtroom #JudicialLeadership #RuleOfLaw #TrialAdvocacy #LegalProfession #CourtroomCivility
In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney talks with John Sweeney, the 2025 CAL-ABOTA Trial Lawyer of the Year, whose landmark civil rights cases in Los Angeles have shaped national conversations about policing, accountability, and justice. Sweeney has tried some of the most emotionally charged and high-profile cases in California—cases involving police shootings, system failures, and families fighting for answers. He speaks candidly about what it means to step into the courtroom when the stakes could not be higher, and how leadership often looks like courage, preparation, and the willingness to tell a story that others are afraid to tell. Their conversation explores: • What real leadership looks like when lives, legacies, and public trust are on the line • The pressures and responsibilities of trying emotionally charged civil rights cases • Why courage, professionalism and civility remain indispensable even in the most hard-fought trials Whether you’re drawn to trial strategy, courtroom leadership, or the deeper calling behind civil rights work, Sweeney delivers a powerful, uncompromising look at what it means to stand up for justice in the toughest cases. Learn more about John Sweeney: https://thesweeneyfirm.com and ABOTA: https://www.abota.org #ABOTASpeaks #TrialAdvocacy #CivilRightsLitigation #JusticeSystem #JohnSweeney
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