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"Nadine sure likes to talk" - every report card she brought home. Which is ironic because this whole show is really about listening and asking the questions other interviewers skip. It doesn't take an expert or a guest who's survived something tragic to make that work - it simply requires someone willing to be real. Because everyone has a real story if you're willing to ask for it. An Olympic athlete figuring out who she is after competitive sports. A mother describing the 118 days she got with a daughter who was born four months too early and didn't survive. A business owner rebuilding after everything fell apart and Nadine's own mom and sister on what makes a family actually enjoy each other's company. No script. No formula. No niche. Just real conversations that go past the rehearsed answer - because she's honest first, so her guests can be too. New episodes every week. Hit download and find out what folks are sharing on The Other Side. nh x
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Clarissa Arthur spent her early teenage years angry. The skipping school, running away, in and out of trouble with the police kind of angry. Then 3 weeks after she turned 17, standing in the bathroom at her high school, she found out she was pregnant. This is when she made the decision to change. This instinct - to keep moving forward even in a situation that could easily have derailed her - is what propelled Clarissa in each stage of her life. Now the executive director of Nelson House, a first-stage shelter for women and children fleeing violence, she clearly, and thoughtfully, traces a straight line from her hardest years to the work she does today - continually reminding herself that you have two choices, give up or show up. We talk about: losing her dad to a sudden heart attack three weeks after she'd finally gotten her life back on track; surviving domestic violence herself, and what it's like to run one of Ottawa's five shelters for women fleeing exactly that; the job interview where she cried in front of six strangers and got hired anyway, and why she still tells her staff "I'm Clarissa before I'm the executive director"; and her actual, zero-apologies way of shutting her brain off after a shift (a sleep mask with built-in speakers and the Real Housewives, in case you were wondering). If you know anyone who could use a little Clarissa magic in their life, please share this one. For more information on Nelson House, whether that's becoming a monthly donor or just knowing the number is there when someone needs it, visit their website . If you'd like The Gratitude Effect Journal by Clarissa Arthur and Karen Jolicoeur, find it here . And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Dr. Sam Hetz cold-emailed three Ottawa clinics that were offering Botox, asking for ten minutes of their time. One doctor graciously said yes, changing the direction of Sam's life. A decade later he's a partner of a 70-clinic, L'Oréal backed medical group, as well as the co-founder of Ottawa's first personalized, private, longevity-focused clinic, LifespanMD . What makes this conversation worth the hour isn't his resume, though, it's his attitude. Sam isn't afraid of change, accepting that nothing is permanent and using tools he's learned to remind himself (and his patients) that whatever you're catastrophizing about almost never actually happens. We talk about: leaving a full-time family medicine practice to bet on a cosmetic clinic he learned about by shadowing a mentor on vacation days and post-call mornings; why he says "no decision is finite" and the worst-case-scenario exercise his business coach taught him; building LifespanMD from a business plan on a napkin; the one health intervention Sam says beats every drug and why almost nobody does enough of it; and his real diagnostic question before burnout hits - are you good busy, or bad busy? Sam and I have known each other for years, and this was the first time I got to sit him down and ask him everything. I walked away with insights that I will apply to my own business (and my health!). Send this to the friend who's always busy, as a reminder that taking time, especially for a conversation like this, is good for them. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Michelle Weger fell asleep at a microscope in her first year of university and woke up with two black eyes. It took five years before anyone figured out why. As Michelle talks about living with narcolepsy we speak about the tendency to hide the parts of us that aren't so polished, and what can happen when we let our guard down. What you'll hear about: the 5 years of dead-end doctor visits and the friend, Rebecca, who changed her life for the better; what it actually felt like to sleep 20 hours a day and never once feel rested; the 4-month trip to Africa that turned into an accidental blogging career, and how the desire to share elephant photos with her grandparents became a website development and SEO business that has generated millions of dollars; a service dog named Quinn who has her own piece of internet fame now; and the exact moment Michelle decided to stop hiding her diagnosis, and what happened right after. Know someone quietly managing something they're sure would change how people see them - a diagnosis, a body that doesn't cooperate, a business they're scared to be honest about? Do me a favour and send them this one. If you'd like more from Michelle - her book, her talks, or her service dog Quinn's Instagram - find her website , her instagram and Quinn's IG over here . And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
My mom is 77. Her closest friends are four women she met when she was 16 and for almost a decade of their lives, she barely spoke to them. I went into this conversation expecting a nice story about a friend group that's lasted 60+ years. What I didn't expect was how the silence actually ended - not with a big reconciliation talk, but with two of them showing up at her door with a pie. She still calls it an olive branch. This week I chose one of the top downloaded podcasts of the year to re-release - the one where mom, sis and I talk about friendships. The ones that go quiet. The ones that end in divorce. And the ones that stay, in different ways, through the many ebbs and flows of life. I've thought of this conversation often since we recorded it last Fall. It's made me nostalgic for friends I've lost, and it's made me feel the deepest of love for the ones with staying power. Mom has a theory that friendships just have a clock that runs out on them. I'm still not sure if that's the most comforting thing I've ever heard or the hardest. Do me a favour and share it this episode with your friend - the one you thought of while listening. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Erin McHarge was a 27 year old PhD student going about her life when she was told she has stage 4B endometrial cancer - and it's incurable. But this isn't a "cancer episode". It's a conversation with someone more curious about her own life than afraid of it - and it changed how I think about mine. This is one of the most highly downloaded podcasts of the year and within minutes you'll see why. I originally released it as a two-part but now I'm letting it be what it was - a long conversation with a good friend who also happens to be living people's worst nightmare. We talk about what it costs to be calm and articulate while doctors dismiss you for it; the 13 days her diagnosis sat in her chart before anyone told her; getting married in front of a fireplace because the dock wedding got rained out; finishing a PhD you might not live to use; and grieving a future that was never guaranteed to begin with. This episode has never left me, and I don't think it will leave you either. Do me a favour and share it. Pass it along to someone you thought of while listening. If you'd like more from Erin, here's her Substack . And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
One of the most downloaded episodes in the history of this show - and it's the very first one I ever recorded <3 My friend Mandie lost her mom to cancer, and then her stepdad, 11 months later. Two parents, back to back, in under a year. We get into what actually gets you out of bed the day someone dies, running the Chicago Marathon four hours after finding out her mom had two months left, and the dead-parent jokes that only make sense once you're on the other side of it. It's heavy. It's also really funny, in the way grief actually is when nobody's performing for the room. This is why I started this show. If you fall in love with Mandie like I did, be sure to check out her business, Collective Movement . And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
He spent 25 years inside some of the highest-stakes rooms in the Canadian government and he still describes himself as "not really a social guy." This past January Nadine sat down with Fraser Valentine to talk about what happens when the thing you built your whole identity around is about to end. It was just months before his retirement date and the conversation was so well received it remains as one of the most downloaded - so here's the re-release. Listen in as we get into the Sunday-night ritual his father ran him through as a kid, why he calls the public service "a parent" - one that can reward you and quietly punish you in the same breath - and the moment he realized he'd spent decades accomplishing things without ever stopping to actually feel them. This isn't really about retirement. It's about what's left of you once the title's gone. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
This month Mom & Sis joined me to talk about the moment a parent-child relationship quietly turns into a friendship - and the phone call Nadine got from a hotel in Quebec that made her realize her mom had already made that shift, years before she even noticed. This isn't a how-to-raise-your-kids episode. It's the other side of it: what it actually takes for a parent to step all the way back, and what happens once they do. We talk about: the one-ingredient answer Lorraine gives for how this works ("I like each of you"); why she calls stepping back from parenting "a relief," not a loss; what each of her three kids has, unknowingly, taught their mother; and Lorraine's one piece of advice for any parent hoping to end up actual friends with their adult kids. I don't think I'll ever take these monthly conversations with my mom and sister for granted. This one reminded me why we keep doing them. Did this episode make you think of someone who mothered you into being? Send it along to them. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Nagad is a therapist, and the jeweller behind Of Soleil , where she hand-shapes polymer clay into blueberries you'd swear were real, earrings inspired by basket weaving, and collections named for the instruments and scents of home. What got me wasn't the craft itself, gorgeous as it is - it's that every piece she makes is doing quiet, deliberate work: carrying her culture and memory into rooms they wouldn't otherwise reach. We talk about: the "Fruit Salad" collection that took over two years to get right; the "Oud" collection, named for an instrument and a scent tied to home and family gatherings; why she called her business Of Soleil, and what it means to return to your own light; her day job as a therapist working with African, Caribbean, and Black communities, and how it braids into the jewelry; and why she couldn't sit and "let the clay just be" the way art therapy asked her to and what that taught her about herself. As if I didn't already love my blueberry earrings enough - now every time I put them on I'll think about, and feel, all of the love and care that went into them. Share this episode with the creative, or the homesick, in your life. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Dr. Jared Gerston has been treating Nadine's body for years using a technique called PDTR. When she went to see him for what she assumed was pickleball-related neck pain and walked out pain free, learning it had nothing to do with her favourite past-time and, instead, was her nervous system still reacting to an old injury, she knew it was time to mic him up! This isn't really an episode about chiropractic care. It's about what happens when someone gently asks your body a question your mind's been avoiding - and how fast physical pain can disappear once you actually answer it. We talk about: what PDTR is and how it reads the nervous system's compensation patterns; the two-year hamstring injury nobody could solve until they changed the question; primitive reflexes we're all still walking around with as adults; why he's stepping down as owner of the practice he spent over a decade building, to make room for the parts of the work he actually loves; and the reminder that you can't pour from an empty cup, even when - especially when - you're the one everyone else pours from. I left this conversation the same way I leave every appointment with Jared - a little smarter, and a lot more in tune with myself. Pickleball fan or not, share this one with the person who's always moving. No doubt there's an old injury that acts up from time to time. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Rebecca Rowe trained at Pratt Institute and ESMOD Paris, ran her own clothing brand for eight years, and lost her entire collection - patterns included - the week a flood destroyed her apartment. What struck me wasn't so much the flood as what came after: an insurance adjuster telling her that her patterns (which took hundreds of hours of work) were worth $9 each. That's the moment I understood why she does what she does now. We talk about: her eight-year-old self learning how to use a sewing machine; leaving for design school in New York at 17 without telling her parents until the acceptance letter arrived; the night the flood took her sewing machines and every pattern she owned; why she refuses to do "body type" analysis with clients and teaches anchor points instead; the five fashion theories she uses to find your real style; and the real reason women say "nothing fits" when they rarely mean it literally. I could've talked to Rebecca for four more hours. Ideally while we are both going through my closet! Who's your favourite shopping buddy? Send this episode to them. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Ro Nwosu spent years as one of the only Black movement instructors most Ottawa-area fitness studios called on when they needed to "do the diversity work" - often unpaid, feeling under-appreciated, and expected to make hard truths comfortable to hear. This is something we cannot gloss over when we talk about her burnout - in fact, it's a direct cause. Listen in as Ro tells us how she turned "I'm the problem" from an accusation into a boundary. As someone who also suffered from burnout, that reframe cracked something open in me too. We talk about the difference between being tired and being actually burnt out; why Ro now charges an extra $8,000 to "soften" how she talks about racism; the studio space she finally walked away from; the sabbatical that turned into a full identity rebuild; the two-year communication course she took because she couldn't say no without getting angry; and the word she's chosen for who she's becoming - unmanageable. This conversation didn't feel like two former studio owners talking shop. It felt like two women finally saying out loud what almost broke us. Do me a favour and share it - pass it along to someone you thought of while listening.And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
This month's Mom & Sis episode started as advice for my nephew Connor, who's about to graduate high school, and ended with all three of us realizing we're still graduating into something new every few years, whether we call it that or not. Our own advice, mirrored back to ourselves, even at 48, 55 and 77. We talk about: the year Danielle and Nadine both moved out, and what Lorraine now calls the "freeing" side of watching her kids become independent; Danielle's advice to get off your phone and make eye contact with actual humans; Nadine's own post-university panic to have everything figured out immediately; the time Lorraine nearly burned down their London Airbnb, "Casa Rosa," ironing a shirt while the stovetop quietly melted a rubber mat down the hall; and why all three believe that you should surround yourself with people smarter than you and not look for the rooms where you feel smartest. Know someone who's graduating into something new right now, with or without a cap and gown? Send this to them. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Megan Lendrum and Meagan Kribeiro are the makers behind the jewelry company, Daughters of the River . Introduced by a mutual friend, they ended up side by side at a creative market and, within weeks, became roommates, dear friends, and then business partners. Their story is a beautiful one - instead of treating each other as competition, they merged their client lists and skills, and built something even bigger and more beautiful together than either of them could have done alone. We talk about: the moment Megan started teaching Meagan wax casting instead of keeping her technique to herself; the jewelry program Megan got into and never attended because well-meaning family told her there was no money in art; the stranger Megan ran into at the grocery store wearing a ring she made four years earlier, at the exact moment she needed to hear it mattered; and the quote that runs their whole business - "when you have, give; when you learn, teach." Watching two women build something together instead of guarding it from each other is its own kind of magic, and honestly, the opposite of how we're taught business is supposed to work. Know two women who'd build something incredible together if they just met? Send them this. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Hillory Tenute got divorced. No one cheated. No one lied. No one did anything wrong - they just grew into two different people, and chose to let each other go with love instead of a fight. What struck me wasn't the divorce, it's that she let a marriage go while keeping the friend who happened to also be her ex-husband. We talk about: the surgery in 2020 that changed how she felt in her own body, and how that quietly reshaped her marriage for years before either of them said it out loud; the walk where they both cried and admitted, "there's no solution here"; selling the house and moving into her own place - what she calls her "Margie era," named for the grandmother who told her "never be the secretary, be the CEO"; the solo trip to Europe that was equal parts grief and celebration and meeting her now-partner and building Matchee Matchee together. Going through a separation and wondering if it has to end in a war? Have a listen. Know someone that could use this take on conscious uncoupling, share this with them. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Sure, Amanda Ruddy knows how to throw a party, but this conversation is about so much more. It's about losing her mother to breast cancer and running an event three weeks later. It's about starting her event planning business and having to close it weeks later because of a global pandemic. It's about the grief-fueled resilience she didn't ask for, but used to keep going, smirking as she remembers thinking, "What's the worst that can happen? It already did." We talk about: the six days between "she can come home from the hospital" and the phone call that changed everything; running Ottawa's Grey Cup Festival three weeks after her mother's funeral because she "couldn't not do it"; the moment in her dad's kitchen when she told him she was starting her own business, and how being "too fragile for anyone to tell her no" is what actually gave her the push; COVID hitting four months after her launch party, with zero income and a business too new to qualify for any support; the two years of building themed "party boxes" with local restaurants just to stay visible until doors reopened; and why she still believes someone's name can get them in the door, but it's not what keeps them there. By the end of this one I wanted to reach out and give Amanda a ginormous hug. Six years ago she was tying ribbon on cardboard boxes. Now she's the person hundreds of people trust with the biggest day of their lives. Know someone quietly rebuilding something after losing everything? This one's for them, please share it. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Mom watched me unnecessarily rack up student debt in my twenties and made a choice most parents wouldn't: she let me handle it myself. And I'm not the only one - she's done this for all three of her kids, in different ways at different times in our lives. Watching, quietly running a sort of threat assessment even to this day. We talk about: my student loan and how I moved to Calgary after my master's degree with no network, and why she chose not to bail me out; the different way Lorraine worried about her son growing up versus her daughters; the phone call that made me briefly wonder if mom's memory was slipping; what changes, and what doesn't, about a mother's worry once her kids become parents themselves; and Lorraine's one unapologetic cigar with Uncle Bruce on New Year's Day, decades after she quit smoking. Hearing your mom admit she still worries about you at 48 doesn't feel like a burden. It feels like proof you're still hers. Send this to your mom, or the person who loved you like only a mother can. Better yet, call them after you listen. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Content warning: infant loss When we left off, Emma Mitchell's daughter, Evie, had just been born at 23 weeks and 6 days. In part two, Emma picks up 118 days later - when the numbers finally stopped adding up, and she and Devin had to decide, together, how Evie's story would end. Evie passed on December 10th; her due date had been December 5th; and by pure coincidence, the 10th was also Emma's mom's birthday - the birthday her mom always said Evie would be born on anyway. Emma calls it absurd to have to choose the day your child dies. She also calls it a gift she's grateful they got. We talk about: the four-visitor hospital rule that meant Emma's own dad didn't meet his granddaughter for weeks; her brother Gordy, who found his own way to express his grief; the 43 minutes Evie lived after they removed her breathing support, spent singing to her and playing guitar; the six kangaroo care chairs the hospital bought after Emma pushed for them, so other families can hold their babies the way she wishes she'd been able to hold Evie more; and how she found her way back to herself six months later, on a pickleball court where nobody knew her story at all. If you know someone carrying a loss like this, let them know you're still thinking of their baby. Emma told me that's the kindest thing anyone can do. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Content warning: infant loss Emma Mitchell spent years assuming motherhood wasn't in the cards for her - until a chest X-ray for a bad case of pneumonia led her to check, almost as an afterthought, and the test came back with the darkest line she'd ever seen. What got me is how much had to go right just for Emma and her partner, Devin, to meet their daughter, Evie, at all - a scare at eight weeks that looked like a miscarriage, a cervix that kept shortening past the point doctors thought possible, and a hospital stay built around an infection nobody could fully explain, all before Evie arrived at 23 weeks and 6 days, weighing 660 grams - a little over a pound. We talk about: the 14-and-a-half-hour wait in an emergency room, certain they'd already lost the pregnancy; the rare hospital protocol that tested for infection before stitching her cervix shut, and why that test likely gave Evie the time she got; the moment Evie's cord snapped from how fast she arrived, and hearing her cry when no one expected to; and the brochures the hospital hands parents at each gestational week showing the odds, and why Emma tore hers up the moment they turned 23 weeks. Emma is telling this story with a kind of clarity and honesty I don't think I could manage in her place, and I'm so grateful she trusted me with it. We're picking this up next week in part two - Evie's 118 days, and the family who never stopped showing up for her. If this resonates and you know someone who's walked something like this road, this might be worth sending them - gently, and with care. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
Amira de Vera runs Project Four PR , the Toronto entertainment PR firm she founded in 2017, and she lives by something she calls the Burnt Toast Theory: every inconvience, missed exit, or delayed flight is protecting you from something you can't see yet. And she traces this back through her life in many ways - from a toxic corporate PR job she quit on a hunch, to a devastating pandemic breakup that ended with a book called Trust the Universe literally showing up on her doorstep days later, to launching her own firm with eight freelance clients because her mom told her, "you're already doing it, just make it official." We talk about: the difference between working hard and actually burning out, and how she's learned to tell which one she's in; representing Tom Cruise for a Toronto premiere and what he was actually like off-camera; her non-negotiable 5am morning routine; learning to sit with pain instead of outrunning it, after years of believing busy was the same thing as healed; and why she thinks nothing in her career, including the doors that slammed on her, has ever actually been random. I left this conversation thinking of all my "burnt toast" moments, and an appreication for landing exactly where I have. Know someone who feels like life keeps redirecting them? Send this episode their way. And if you'd like more from me - my coaching or my writing - you'll find both over on my website , or catch the more personal stuff on my Substack . See you next week, on The Other Side x @the_otherside_pod
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