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We’re PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson - two dads, two mates, who’ve spent our lives working across business, law, education, charity, and media. Between us, we've made a lot of mistakes, asked a lot of questions, and raised kids who are about to walk into a world of work that’s nothing like the one we grew up in. That’s why we started Wit + Grit - a space for real, human conversations about what it takes to thrive in a world full of AI, constant pressure, and curated perfection. This podcast is about the skills you can’t Google. Things like confidence, resilience, emotional intelligence, how to fail well, how to bounce back, how to speak up, and how to listen. We’re not here to give perfect advice. We’re here to ask better questions. How do we prepare our kids for jobs that don’t exist yet? How do we connect generations in a divided, digital world? What makes someone truly employable in 2025 and beyond? Each episode, we’ll chat with educators, grads, parents, leaders, misfits, mentors, and all-round brilliant people who’ve lived through the stuff that doesn’t come with a textbook. If you’re a parent, a young person starting out, an old-head or experienced leader, or just someone trying to figure out how to be more human in a world full of noise - this one’s for you. Follow us, subscribe, and let’s have the conversations that matter - with a bit of humour, a lot of honesty, and absolutely no corporate jargon. You can connect with us at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107731497/ LinkedIn: PJ Ellis & Andy Dawson Let’s get into it.
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What if the biggest barrier isn't disability - but perception? In this deeply moving episode of Wit + Grit , PJ and Andy sit down with Taylor Mackenzie , Special Olympics GB swimmer, gold medallist and athlete leader, alongside Laura Baxter MBE , CEO of Special Olympics Great Britain. Taylor shares her remarkable journey - from a young girl who struggled to speak, to becoming a double gold medallist in Berlin and now preparing to attempt a Guinness World Record just months after major spinal surgery. Laura explains why Special Olympics is about far more than medals. It's about confidence, belonging, opportunity and challenging society's assumptions about people with intellectual disabilities. Together they explore leadership, resilience, inclusion and why success should sometimes be measured by friendship, courage and joy rather than trophies. This isn't simply a conversation about sport. It's a conversation about seeing people for who they are - and what becomes possible when we do. Key Takeaways People before labels Special Olympics focuses on the person - not the disability. Success looks different Winning isn't always measured by medals. Sometimes it's confidence, friendship and simply showing up. Courage changes everything Taylor's comeback after spinal surgery shows resilience in its purest form. Inclusion starts with conversation The biggest thing we can do is simply engage with people. Challenge assumptions Ability should always come before disability. Different thinking is a strength People with intellectual disabilities often bring unique perspectives that organisations desperately need. Self-belief begins with someone believing in you For Taylor, that started with her parents. Legacy isn't built after an event It's created years before through education, opportunity and changing perceptions. Chapters List 00:00 Finding a Voice Through Special Olympics 01:03 Taylor’s Journey Into Swimming 04:21 Why Sport Creates Opportunity 06:46 National Games in Birmingham 09:38 The Origins of Special Olympics 10:44 The Athlete Oath: Be Brave in the Attempt 11:50 Community, Confidence and Friendship 13:34 Changing Perceptions Beyond Sport 19:05 Family Support and Taylor’s Berlin Golds 29:05 Recovery, Resilience and a World-Record Goal 32:30 What Athletes Teach Us About Success 34:56 Building a More Inclusive Future 40:08 Athlete Leadership and Advocacy 42:46 A Future World Games in Great Britain 45:48 Partnerships That Create Change 48:18 The Lasting Impact of the National Games 50:21 How to Support the National Games
What kind of Birmingham do we want to be living in 20 years from now - and are we backing ourselves strongly enough to create it? In Episode 43 of Wit + Grit we are joined by Natalie King for a wide-ranging conversation about Birmingham’s identity, investment, talent and future. Natalie explains why successful city-building cannot be measured only by attracting major businesses. The strongest cities also protect their culture, character and sense of place - creating somewhere people genuinely want to live, work and spend time. She reflects on beginning her career with Marketing Birmingham, turning an internship into a permanent role within two weeks, and the energy, curiosity and willingness to get involved that helped shape her career. The conversation also explores personal branding, confidence, vulnerability, coaching and the importance of bringing young people into rooms where decisions are made. Natalie argues that listening is not enough: young people need access, ownership and genuine opportunities to influence what happens next. From AI and psychological safety to civic pride and the future of Birmingham, this is a hopeful conversation about backing talent, asking better questions and creating a city that is ambitious without losing its heart and soul. Key takeaways Birmingham has the track record to win major investment, but the type of investment matters as much as the amount. Culture, talent, hospitality and quality of life are central to attracting people and businesses. Cities should be designed around the lives people want to lead - not simply around buildings and corporate investment. Confidence grows when people repeatedly prove to themselves that they can do difficult things. Personal branding is really about understanding what opportunities people should immediately associate with you. Young people often underestimate the value of their perspective and the power of asking good questions. Bringing emerging talent into important rooms creates learning, confidence and better decision-making. Inclusion means giving younger colleagues ownership - not inviting them merely to observe or take notes. Vulnerability and honest conversations help create psychological safety at work. AI is most effective when it supports, rather than replaces, human judgement, empathy and connection. Birmingham needs to stop retreating into self-deprecation and become more confident in telling its own story. Mentors and coaches help people identify possibilities they cannot see while immersed in day-to-day work. The Birmingham of 2035 should be better connected, less car-dependent and full of meaningful opportunities for local talent. If we want young people to shape the future, we must give them access, platforms and the power to influence real decisions. Chapters List 00:00 Birmingham's Investment Potential 01:48 Natalie's Journey into the Workforce 08:11 The Importance of Personal Branding 11:01 Encouraging Young Voices 14:04 Navigating Challenges in a New Role 16:59 Creating Inclusive Spaces for Young People 19:11 Empowering Others Through Sponsorship 20:11 The Role of AI in Business 21:27 Youth Perspectives on Urban Development 22:53 Bridging the Gap Between Generations 24:16 Birmingham's Brand and Identity 26:08 The Importance of Mentoring and Coaching 27:32 Envisioning Birmingham in 2035 29:09 Reflections on Leadership and Community
What happens when you spend decades building a successful career before finally understanding how your mind really works? In this episode of Wit + Grit, leadership consultant and soon-to-be-published-author Damian Kirk shares the life-changing impact of receiving an ADHD and dyslexia diagnosis at the age of 51. What followed wasn’t limitation, it was liberation. Together, we explore why self-awareness is the foundation of great leadership, why we’re making work far more complicated than it needs to be, and what businesses can do to create environments where people genuinely thrive. From accountability over hierarchy, to AI, coaching, preparing young people for work and designing organisations for success, this is an honest conversation about leading with authenticity and building workplaces that bring out the best in people. Whether you’re a leader, a parent, a mentor or simply someone trying to understand yourself a little better, this episode is packed with practical insights you’ll take away long after the conversation ends. Sometimes the biggest breakthrough isn’t changing your career. It’s finally understanding yourself. Key Takeaways * Self-awareness is one of the greatest leadership advantages you’ll ever develop. * A diagnosis doesn’t define you - it helps you understand your strengths. * Different thinking isn’t a weakness; it can become your greatest asset. * Great leaders create space for others to succeed rather than having all the answers. * Simplicity beats complexity in almost every organisation. * Accountability creates ownership; hierarchy often creates barriers. * AI won’t replace great leaders - but it may expose poor ones. * Coaching is one of the most valuable life skills anyone can learn. * Young people need more real-world experience, mentors and opportunities to explore. * Success rarely happens by accident - it is designed. Keywords Damian Kirk, ADHD, Dyslexia, ADHD diagnosis, neurodiversity, leadership podcast, leadership development, self-awareness, emotional intelligence, coaching, accountability, organisational culture, AI in business, future of work, workplace leadership, business transformation, leadership consultant, career development, mentoring, Wit and Grit podcast, young people, work experience, success by design, leadership mindset, authentic leadership, business growth, employee engagement, change management Chapters 00:00 Understanding Neurodiversity: A Personal Journey 07:16 Transforming Leadership Through Self-Awareness 13:12 Preparing the Next Generation for the Workforce 20:09 Harnessing AI for Future Opportunities 21:19 The Power of AI as a Capability 22:58 Understanding Energy Costs and Their Complexity 25:30 AI's Impact on Leadership and Management 28:53 The Pinnacle Moment: Self-Awareness in Leadership 31:13 Advice for Young Professionals and Future Aspirations
Gabriel Imevbore joins us to share his journey from growing up in Erdington, Birmingham, experiencing family breakdown and homelessness at 19, to becoming the youngest trustee in YMCA Heart of England’s 180-year history. In this good-old-heart-to-heart conversation, Gabriel talks about ambition, faith, entrepreneurship, Birmingham, fatherhood, opportunity, social mobility and why your circumstances may shape your opening chapter - but they don’t have to write the ending. Key takeaways Your story is shaped by what you choose to do next. Young people need opportunity, not judgement. Birmingham has huge entrepreneurial talent that needs backing. Leaders must stay close to the ground level. Parents should respect the inspiration behind a child’s dreams. Unconventional thinkers need space to thrive. Success is health, family, purpose and giving back. Representation matters - but so does opening doors for others. Keywords Gabriel Imevbore, Wit and Grit, Birmingham, YMCA, homelessness, entrepreneurship, social mobility, young leaders, resilience, Birmingham business, opportunity, youth employment, leadership, community, personal story, Future Faces, National Grid, UpStride, AI, fatherhood, purpose, ambition. 00:00 Gabriel's Early Life and Ambitions 01:36 Challenges and Turning Points 03:57 The Role of Education and Mentorship 07:27 Finding Opportunities and Building a Network 10:14 Community Impact and Giving Back 11:51 Leadership and Ground-Level Engagement 14:49 Pathways to Progress and Social Mobility 16:09 Reflections on Talent Recognition and Future Aspirations 16:38 Bridging Generational Gaps 21:24 Entrepreneurial Journey and Community Impact 23:18 Personal Growth and Family Dynamics
As our government moves towards restricting social media access for young people, the debate has shifted from whether there is a problem to what we do about it. In this episode, we sit down with Abi Edmunds, founder of Social Media Resilience, to explore the realities of growing up online and the skills young people need to navigate an increasingly complex digital world. From social media bans and online safety to AI-generated content, misinformation and emotional resilience, Abi shares what she’s learning from thousands of conversations in classrooms across the UK. Most importantly, she explains why banning technology alone won’t solve the problem. and why critical thinking, community and open conversations may be our best defence. Whether you’re a parent, teacher, employer or simply trying to make sense of modern life online, this is a conversation that matters. Key takeaways The social media ban is the start of a solution, not the solution itself. Young people don’t need more lectures. They need more conversations. Social media isn’t just scrolling. It’s community, identity, friendship and belonging. The most important digital skill may be critical thinking. We’re about as good at spotting AI content as flipping a coin. Online resilience starts with one simple habit: pause. Children often understand the technology better than adults. Adults need to understand the environment better than children. If we remove one platform, young people will find another. The underlying need for connection remains. Parents don’t need all the answers. They need better conversations. The future belongs to people who can question what they see, not just consume it. Keywords Social Media Resilience, Abi Edmunds, Online Safety, Digital Wellbeing, Critical Thinking, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Misinformation, Disinformation, Social Media Ban, Online Harm, Parenting, Education, Future Skills, Mental Health, Emotional Resilience, Young People, Schools, Technology, Digital Literacy, Media Literacy, Social Media, TikTok, Instagram, Algorithms, Wit + Grit Podcast Chapters 00:00 Introduction and episode overview 00:36 Social media restrictions for youth: insights and challenges 01:34 Australian social media trial: what worked and what didn't 02:54 Introducing Social Media Resilience: mission and impact 04:46 Parents' concerns and the importance of resilience education 05:42 The evolving online landscape and youth behavior 07:18 Classroom conversations and engaging young learners 09:29 Building critical thinking skills and online literacy 10:18 The influence of tech companies and behavioral design 11:55 Society, democracy, and the power of algorithms 12:24 Misconceptions about social media among parents 13:38 Hope and opportunities in social media use 14:39 Curriculum design for online critical thinking 17:02 Role of schools and teachers in online safety education 18:31 Success stories and classroom breakthroughs 19:30 Practical tips for parents: grayscale and digital habits 20:14 Teaching critical thinking in a world of AI and deepfakes 21:05 Spotting AI-generated content: challenges and techniques 21:45 The future of media and AI in society 22:28 Personal social media habits and professional boundaries 23:17 Advice for young adults on social media awareness 24:04 Encouraging offline communities and healthy social habits 25:00 The upcoming Screen Smart Parents newsletter 26:27 Closing remarks and key takeaways
In this episode, we sit down with workplace futurist Stuart Evans to explore AI, robotics, the future of work and what it all means for young people. From agentic AI and humanoid robots to university debt, entry-level jobs, adaptability and the future of human skills, this is a conversation about what happens when work changes faster than our old systems can keep up. Stuart challenges the idea that young people should simply follow the same paths as previous generations and argues that the most valuable future skills may not be technical at all - but deeply human. Key takeaways * Work is shifting from a place you go to something you do. * AI assistants are only the start; agentic AI is the real shift. * Repeatable tasks will increasingly move away from humans. * Young people may be inheriting outdated career advice. * Degrees won’t always be the best route to meaningful work. * Adaptability may be the most important future skill. * Humans tolerate human failure more easily than tech failure. * Generation Alpha may redefine what work and success mean. * The future may need fewer traditional jobs, but more human value. * The big question is how humans and technology work together. Keywords AI, future of work, agentic AI, workplace futurist, Stuart Evans, human skills, adaptability, Generation Alpha, robotics, humanoid robots, young people, careers, education, university, employability, automation, leadership, emotional intelligence, strategic thinking, technology, work culture, Wit + Grit. Chapters List 00:00 The Future of Work: A New Landscape 03:07 AI and Its Impact on Employment 05:42 Humanoid Robotics: The Next Frontier 08:21 The Changing Perception of AI 10:52 Education and the Skills Gap 13:21 The Role of Adaptability in the Future 16:01 Redefining Success for Future Generations 18:24 The Shift in Work Dynamics 20:50 Community and Career Identity 23:38 The Future of Work: A Choice, Not a Necessity 29:30 Understanding Generation Alpha: Digital Natives and Their World 32:48 Education in the Age of AI: Preparing for the Future 35:21 Navigating Career Paths: Embracing Adaptability 37:35 The Ethics of AI: Data Centers and Autonomous Weapons 39:40 Neuralink and the Future of Human Enhancement 41:01 The Metaverse: Reality vs. Virtual Experience 43:11 The Future of Work: A Blended Human-Digital Workforce
In this episode, PJ and Andy reflect on Jess Dunn’s week of work experience with Wit + Grit, what it revealed about young people, confidence, opportunity and the future of work. From students struggling to secure placements, to AI anxiety, skills shortages, third sector pressure and the need for businesses to “press go”, this is a conversation about moving beyond roundtables and into action. Let's do this. Key takeaways * Young people are more anxious about the future than many adults realise. * Work experience expectations are often far too low. * Businesses can make a huge impact by simply opening the door. * AI is creating both opportunity and fear for the next generation. * Human skills like critical thinking will matter more than ever. * The third sector is already doing vital work but often lacks resource. * We need better infrastructure connecting young people, schools, charities and businesses. Keywords Wit + Grit, work experience, young people, future of work, AI, Microsoft Work Trends, Birmingham, skills shortage, employability, third sector, social mobility, opportunity, critical thinking, youth employment, business leadership, placements. Chapters 00:00 The Journey of Mentorship and Youth Empowerment 02:15 Challenges in Youth Employment and Future Anxiety 05:20 The Role of AI in Shaping Future Careers 06:35 Creating Opportunities Through Collaboration 08:48 The Importance of Human Skills in the AI Era 11:57 Navigating the New Normal in a Changing World 21:41 The Power of Reading and Inspiration 22:24 Daily Habits and Small Efforts 24:17 Creating Opportunities for the Next Generation 25:52 Addressing the Skills Shortage Debate 30:03 Engaging the Community for Change 31:18 Personal Reflections and Future Aspirations 36:30 outro1.mp3
At 17, Jessica Dunn was trying to find work experience in media, marketing, journalism and radio. After around 10 rejections, she was almost left spending the week in the school canteen. In this episode, Jess shares how young people are really feeling about work, careers, AI, grades, rejection and opportunity. It’s an honest conversation about confidence, the gap between generations, and why businesses need to do more to open doors for the next generation. Key takeaways * Young people are anxious about future careers. * Rejection damages confidence earlier than we realise. * Many students need opportunity before they have experience. * Businesses can help through tasters, open days and placements. * AI is both exciting and unsettling for young people. * Grades matter, but they should not define someone’s future. * Investing in young people benefits everyone. Keywords Jessica Dunn, work experience, young people, next generation, careers, employability, AI, education, confidence, Birmingham, Wit + Grit, opportunity, youth voice, placements, business responsibility, future of work, social mobility. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Work Experience 00:55 Young People's Perspectives on Careers 02:18 Challenges Faced by Young People in the Job Market 04:25 The Role of Schools and Businesses 06:25 Future Aspirations and Advice for Peers 08:44 The Impact of Social Media on Young People 10:31 Parental Influence and Support 12:11 Conclusion and Reflections on Opportunities 13:47 Navigating Parental Relationships and Social Media 14:36 The Overwhelming Nature of Current Events 15:19 The Impact of AI on Education and Careers 17:57 Balancing AI Use and Critical Thinking in Youth 24:09 The Job Market and AI's Role in Youth Employment 27:21 Parenting in the Age of AI and Education 31:38 The Importance of Grades vs. Personal Growth
Ameesha Green is the founder of The Book Shelf, a book shepherd, philosophy thinker, mentor and proudly neurodivergent entrepreneur. In this episode, we explore ADHD, business, creativity, AI, education, philosophy, children’s futures, writing, and why one-size-fits-all thinking simply does not work. From naming her childhood teddies after philosophers to building a publishing business, Ameesha shares a refreshingly honest view on how different minds work, why books still matter, and whether AI is helping us think better — or helping us avoid thinking altogether. Key takeaways * ADHD can be both a creative advantage and a practical challenge. * Self-awareness matters more than forcing yourself into broken systems. * One-size-fits-all education does not serve every child. * AI can be a sparring partner, not a replacement for thinking. * Books still have the power to pass wisdom between generations. * Entrepreneurship is rarely linear — sometimes you build by saying yes. * Writing can help turn ideas into impact. Keywords Ameesha Green, ADHD, neurodivergence, AI, creativity, philosophy, books, publishing, entrepreneurship, The Book Shelf, book shepherd, education, children’s future, critical thinking, Stoicism, business ownership, self-awareness, Wit + Grit. Chapters 00:00 Navigating Neurodivergence in Business 02:46 The Role of Stoicism in Entrepreneurship 05:03 Philosophy and Its Impact on Decision Making 07:35 The Importance of Open Conversations with Kids 10:33 Political Engagement and Community Involvement 13:18 The Power of Books to Change Lives 16:17 The Journey of Writing and Publishing Children's Books 25:33 A Meandering Journey to Business 28:56 Transitioning to Hybrid Publishing 30:49 Learning from Authors and Their Stories 33:03 Navigating Challenges as a Business Owner 36:03 The Importance of Side Hustles 38:10 Crafting Your Elevator Pitch 39:31 The Role of AI in Publishing 42:00 The Benefits of Writing 45:05 Reflections on Personal Growth 46:21 Wit and Grit in Business
Former police officer Hannah Bailey spent years working in high-pressure frontline roles, telling everyone she was fine while quietly carrying trauma, stress and undiagnosed PTSD. In this powerful episode, Hannah shares how a cancer diagnosis brought unexpected relief because it meant she no longer had to go back to work, why real resilience is not the same as silence, and how she rebuilt her life through treatment, therapy, humour and a completely new understanding of wellbeing. This is a conversation about trauma, workplace culture, cancer, PTSD, leadership, laughter, and what it really means to be well long term. Key takeaways * Looking “fine” on paper can hide deep emotional and mental exhaustion. * High-pressure cultures can train people to stay silent until they break. * Real resilience is not invincibility; it is knowing when to ask for help. * Leaders need to notice changes in people, not just performance. * Humour and connection can help the brain feel safe again. * Wellbeing support must be proactive, genuine and led from the top. Keywords Mental health, PTSD, trauma, policing, cancer survivor, resilience, workplace wellbeing, burnout, leadership, psychological safety, therapy, BWRT, Blue Light Wellbeing, stress, high-pressure work, police officer, emotional health, workplace culture. Chapters List 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast Journey 00:20 The Relief of a Cancer Diagnosis 01:52 The Impact of Workplace Culture on Mental Health 04:21 The Struggles of a Police Officer 06:33 The Identity Crisis of a Police Officer 09:22 The Journey Through Cancer Treatment 11:47 The Role of Support Systems 14:06 Finding Hope in Alternative Treatments 16:51 The Power of Mindset and Resilience 19:00 The Importance of Long-term Wellbeing 24:39 Healing Through BWRT: A Personal Journey 29:14 Understanding Trauma: The Role of the Amygdala and Hippocampus 34:10 The State of Mental Health in Organisations 36:19 Recognising Symptoms of Mental Health Issues 42:12 Addressing Concerns: How to Approach Colleagues 45:23 Wit and Grit: The Power of Humour and Resilience
The graduate job market has never been more competitive, with up to 150 applicants per role, but that doesn’t mean opportunity has disappeared. In this episode, we sit down with Kristie Brookes and Liv Roden from Aston University to unpack what it’s really like to be a student right now, and what employers might be getting wrong. We explore the growing gap between education and employment, why “entry-level” roles now expect experience, and how students can stand out in a world of AI-generated CVs and identical applications. From “power skills” and emotional intelligence to hiring for potential over perfection, this is a practical, honest conversation about the future of work - and how both students and employers need to adapt. If you’ve got kids heading into the world of work, or you’re hiring the next generation, this one matters. Key Takeaways The graduate market is tougher than ever — but opportunity still exists Differentiation is everything (and it’s not just about grades) Employers should hire for potential, not just experience AI is changing entry-level work, but human skills matter more than ever “Power skills” (leadership, AI, innovation, emotional intelligence) are the real advantage Students aren’t lazy - they’re navigating a completely different world Your personality, passion, and story are what set you apart Themes • Future of work • Early careers / graduate market • AI & employability • Emotional intelligence • Identity & confidence • Social mobility • Hiring & leadership Keywords graduate jobs, early careers, Aston University, employability, Gen Z workforce, hiring graduates, AI in recruitment, power skills, soft skills, student careers, internships UK, graduate market UK, career advice, emotional intelligence at work, leadership skills, entry level jobs UK Chapters 00:00 Meet the Employer Engagement Officers 01:40 Current Student Experience and Market Challenges 05:44 Understanding the Role of Employer Engagement Officers 08:56 Career Journeys of Kristie and Olivia 13:48 Aston University: Opportunities and Offerings 16:45 Power Skills and Student Preparedness 20:02 Perceptions of Young People in the Workforce 21:50 Emotional Intelligence in the Job Market 24:57 Demonstrating Passion and Personality 28:55 The Value of University Experience 33:10 Overcoming Self-Doubt in Career Paths
Lewis Matthews has pushed himself to extremes - from international water polo to Ironmans, ultramarathons and rowing the Atlantic for 38 days. But this conversation isn’t just about endurance. It’s about what happens when life pushes back. Lewis opens up about losing his brother and his mom, how grief reshaped his perspective, and why success now looks very different. From “purposeful discomfort” to fatherhood, identity and resilience, this is a raw, honest conversation about what really matters, and how we carry life when it gets heavy. Key Takeaways • Happiness is a choice - even when life isn’t easy • Have a “why” - it gets you through the hardest moments • Purposeful discomfort builds resilience • Endurance teaches control - focus on what you can influence • Grief doesn’t go away - but it changes • Empathy often comes from pain • Have a “thing” - something that grounds you outside work and life stress • Success changes - especially when you become a parent • You don’t need to be the best - just keep learning and growing • Remember tomorrow - most things pass Keywords Lewis Matthews, rowing the Atlantic, endurance mindset, resilience, grief, loss, fatherhood, mental strength, stoicism, ultramarathon, Ironman, water polo, personal growth, emotional resilience, mindset, discipline, adversity, purpose, mental health, perspective, Wit and Grit podcast Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Lewis Matthews' Background 00:55 20 Days into the Atlantic Row: Challenges and Mindset 02:09 Dealing with Storms and Ocean Conditions 03:49 Big Storms and Boat Spinning Crisis 06:01 Building Mental Fortitude and Stoic Principles 08:28 Lewis' Origin Story and Water Polo Journey 09:50 Transition from Water Polo to Endurance Sports 11:52 Lessons from Ultras and Ironmans 14:07 Why Endurance Challenges? The Mindset Behind the Why 20:26 Personal Losses and Grief: The Impact of Family Tragedy 24:56 Grief vs Physical Endurance: Comparing Challenges 30:40 Lessons from Grief and Moving Forward 32:37 Jiu Jitsu and Community as a Source of Resilience 36:36 Redefining Success and Priorities 38:09 Consciously Unlearning and Embracing New Identities 42:21 Rowing Record and Scenario Planning 44:38 Future Goals and Three-Year Vision 45:37 Wit and Grit: The Balance of Intelligence and Grit 47:14 Who Was Lewis Matthews? What Broke and What He Became
In Episode 32 of Wit + Grit, we are joined by Marcus Dimbleby - former Royal Air Force aerospace battle manager turned leadership and critical thinking specialist. From the military to major corporate transformation, Marcus shares what he’s learned about leadership, human behaviour and why so many organisations are still getting it wrong. This is a wide-ranging conversation covering disengaged workforces, the dangers of promoting people without training them, why young talent is leaving organisations so quickly, and how leaders can unlock the capability already sitting inside their teams. Marcus also breaks down critical thinking, red teaming, adaptive leadership, shadow boards, and why AI is only useful when paired with human judgement. There’s loads here for leaders, parents and anyone thinking about how we prepare the next generation for a world that’s moving fast. Key takeaways • Most leaders are promoted without being trained to lead. • Only 21% of the workforce is engaged. • Leaders don’t need to do it all themselves. • Slow down to speed up. • Critical thinking is not automatic — it has to be deliberately applied. • Every kid is a natural red teamer until the system squeezes it out of them. • Diversity of thought is the diversity that unlocks performance. • Young talent leaves when you recruit them for fresh thinking but don’t let them use it. • A group of high performers is not automatically a team. • Shadow boards are one of the smartest ways to bridge generations. • AI is a tool, not the answer. • The real future is AI plus collective intelligence. • What got you here won’t keep you here. Keywords Marcus Dimbleby, leadership, critical thinking, red teaming, adaptive leadership, workforce engagement, Gen Z, parenting, AI, collective intelligence, shadow boards, team dynamics, military leadership, Royal Air Force, aerospace battle manager, business transformation, disengaged employees, innovation, future of work, human skills, opportunity, Wit and Grit podcast Chapters List 00:00 Introduction to Marcus Dimbleby 02:45 Leadership Challenges in the Modern Workplace 05:16 The Importance of Critical Thinking 08:21 Red Teaming and Its Applications 11:33 The Role of Parents in Fostering Critical Thinking 14:24 The Disconnect Between Leadership and Talent 17:14 Navigating Change in Organizations 20:18 The Need for Adaptive Leadership 23:09 Understanding the Real Problems in Organizations 31:59 Unveiling Leadership Challenges 34:20 The Importance of Tailored Solutions 36:31 The Role of Shadow Boards in Leadership 37:21 Navigating Military Insights and Youth Engagement 46:07 The Impact of AI on Leadership 53:44 Advice for the Next Generation 01:01:50 outro1.mp3
In Episode 31 of Wit + Grit, we are joined by BBC comedy writer James Cary - the man behind episodes of Miranda, Citizen Khan, My Family and Bluestone 42 . But this conversation goes well beyond sitcoms. James opens up about the constant rejection that comes with writing, even when you’re “successful”, what working in comedy has taught him about teams, why authenticity matters more than trying to be funny, and how character often counts for more than qualifications. There’s also brilliant insight on leadership, AI, creativity, criticism, resilience, and why young people need to get better at looking people in the eye. Funny, thoughtful and surprisingly practical, this is a conversation about writing, work, identity and the grit it takes to keep showing up. Key takeaways Rejection never really stops. Failure is not just possible - it’s essential. You want to find out what doesn’t work early, not when it’s too late. Be interested in the thing, not yourself. Your limitations can become your strengths. Humour is high risk, but authenticity isn’t. Teams work best when people care about different things. Different motivations can be a strength, not a weakness. AI is a tool, not a brain. Character matters more than credentials. Keywords James Cary, BBC comedy writer, Miranda writer, Citizen Khan writer, My Family, Bluestone 42, sitcom writing, rejection, resilience, humour, leadership, teams, authenticity, AI and creativity, storytelling, critical thinking, character, human skills, communication, writing career, comedy writer podcast, Wit and Grit podcast Chapters 00:00 Introduction to James Carey 00:48 The Journey into Comedy Writing 02:16 Pathways into Comedy and Early Experiences 04:36 The Role of Management Consultants in Comedy 07:10 The Intersection of Theology and Comedy 10:03 The Stand-Up Theologian 10:35 Writing and Team Dynamics in Comedy 13:10 Problem Solving on Set 15:57 Navigating Egos in the Creative Process 19:59 The Importance of Writing in Today's World 21:21 The Impact of Literature on Young Minds 22:48 The Challenges of Writing and Education 25:15 Embracing Failure in Creative Pursuits 28:20 The Role of Humor in Leadership 32:57 Navigating AI in Creative Processes 35:58 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome 38:47 Character Over Qualifications in Success
What happens when you’re trying to perform at work while also being a present, patient and emotionally available parent at home? In Episode 30, we sit down with Natalie Costa to explore emotional fitness in families, schools and workplaces. Natalie shares her mission to help raise a generation of connected humans by supporting the adults around them - parents, teachers and leaders alike. From childhood anxiety and classroom breakthroughs to parental guilt, emotional regulation and the pressure modern families face, this is a thoughtful, practical and deeply human conversation about what children really need, what parents are carrying, and how workplaces can better support the people raising the next generation. It’s an episode about pressure, repair, resilience and the courage to stay steady when life feels anything but. Key themes Emotional fitness in children and adults Parenting under pressure Childhood anxiety and self-belief Neuroplasticity and changing old patterns Parent guilt and the “mental load” Why connection matters more than ever How leaders can better support working parents Key takeaways Children need adults to be their substitute prefrontal cortex There is only room for one adult in the parent-child relationship You can’t parent perfectly, but you can repair Emotional regulation is a skill, not a personality trait Neuroplasticity means we can build new emotional habits at any age Modern parenting is harder because many families are raising children without a village Connection with children often starts by taking an interest in their world Great leadership at work starts with seeing the human behind the behaviour Supporting parents at work is not a perk — it’s a culture and performance issue Pull quotes / soundbites “We are more connected than ever before, but more emotionally disconnected than ever before.” “We need to support the people raising the next generation.” “There’s only space for one adult in the relationship — and it’s not your child.” “You can’t get it wrong if you are repairing and taking ownership.” “Neuroplasticity is the muscle of our mind.” “What are the keys to your kid’s kingdom?” “Connect before you correct.” “We’re all big kids walking around trying to run companies.” “A lot of guilt is really just being pulled between things we value.” Suggested chapter titles 00:00 – Welcome to Episode 30 00:57 – Natalie’s mission: raising connected humans 02:34 – From teaching to emotional fitness 06:16 – The classroom moment that changed everything 09:16 – Teaching kids what to do with big feelings 14:17 – Why the work has to include parents 17:25 – Old stories, childhood beliefs and change 21:46 – What neuroplasticity actually means 25:35 – Is it harder than ever to be a parent? 27:52 – Simple ways to reconnect with your kids 31:31 – What workplace support for parents should look like 35:58 – Does the work start with children or adults? 40:22 – Emotional fitness and sitting with discomfort 45:14 – What to do at 2am when your mind won’t stop 48:06 – Progressive leadership for working parents 51:16 – Final takeaways
After 28 episodes, a live event, and a growing Wit + Grit community, we sit down for a proper catch-up. This one is honest, reflective and full of the stuff that sits behind the scenes - what we’ve learned, what’s surprised us, what we’re building, and why Wit + Grit is starting to feel like something much bigger than a podcast. We talk about opportunity, identity, grief, ambition, structure, startup energy, and the importance of creating real conversations in a noisy world. If you’ve ever started something, doubted yourself, or wondered whether to just press go, this one’s for you. Bring it on. Key Takeaways Press go first, learn later. Opportunity changes everything. You don’t need all the answers to start. Identity matters. Human connection is becoming more valuable, not less. Structure matters when things start working. Community compounds. Success looks different now. Keywords Wit and Grit, PJ Ellis, Andy Dawson, Birmingham podcast, business podcast UK, human skills, opportunity, personal growth, startup journey, live testing, podcast alumni, community building, leadership, resilience, identity, grief, ambition, entrepreneurship, confidence, AI and identity, young people, future of work, Birmingham business, talent pipeline, real conversations Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Peaky Blinders Premiere 02:44 The Growth of the Podcast and Its Impact 05:21 Personal Journeys and Backgrounds 07:49 Lessons Learned and Insights from the Podcast 10:13 Opportunities and Future Directions 12:51 The Importance of Structure and Discipline 15:31 Looking Ahead: Technology and Growth 18:26 Ambition and Growth in Podcasting 20:32 Creating Opportunities for Young People 22:08 Navigating Challenges in Today's World 24:33 The Impact of Technology on Youth 27:42 Finding Balance in a Chaotic World 31:18 Measuring Success and Impact
Hannah Tyers is one of the world’s youngest female chartered surveyors - but her real story sits under the surface. At 21 years of age, Hannah lost her mum to alcoholism. Her journey has forced Hannah to grow up fast, build resilience early, and learn emotional skills most of us were never taught. In this episode, Hannah shares what grief taught her about life moving on, why “success” can feel complicated, and how those late-night Googles for support became the spark for Soulful Co - a platform designed to help people find the right help faster and feel less alone in the process. We get into confidence vs the “self-confidence mask”, creating spaces where teenagers actually talk, why rest is a non-negotiable (especially for founders), and what it really takes to choose who you want to be - rather than living as a victim of circumstance. Key takeaways • Life moves on after grief - you grow into it. • Success can feel hollow if you’ve got no one to tell. • The feeling of “I’m not alone” is sometimes the first step to healing. • Active listening is simple… and strangely hard. • Teenagers don’t open up on demand - they open up in motion. • Rest is a strategy, not a reward (especially for founders). • You learn most at the edge of the unknown. • If not now, when? If not you, who? Chapters 00:00 – Meet Hannah Tyers (the “iceberg” intro) 02:00 – Youngest chartered surveyor + the story underneath 04:30 – 18-year-old Hannah in a male-dominated industry 07:00 – Losing her mum mid-studies + “life moves on” 09:00 – The chartership moment + “success can feel empty” 11:20 – Alcoholism, childhood, and growing up fast 14:30 – Why most adults don’t talk about feelings 16:00 – How to actually get teenagers to talk 17:30 – What Soulful is and why it exists 20:50 – Redefining success (time, family, purpose) 23:00 – Her brother, men in construction, and opening up 26:00 – Entrepreneurship: “press go, learn on the way” 28:45 – Burnout prevention + rest as a non-negotiable 32:10 – How Soulful works (free platform + events + business offer) 36:20 – Making wellbeing “not embarrassing” for young men 40:00 – If not now, when? If not me, who? 41:35 – One small moment for anyone overwhelmed 42:25 – Choosing who you want to be (not victimhood) 44:30 – Rapid-fire takeaways + close
In this powerful and deeply honest conversation, Daniel Wilsher shares what he calls his “iOS update” - a shedding of identity. After years of building his public platform around the suicide of his father and his own mental health journey, Daniel realised something profound: The story that built him, no longer fits him. From losing his dad at 9, battling addiction, therapy, public speaking, Channel 4’s The Piano , and impacting 25,000 students in 20 days, Daniel reflects on identity, reinvention, masculinity, hope, parenting, resilience, and the responsibility we all share for the next generation. This is not an episode about trauma. It’s an episode about evolution. About what happens when the thing that made you, isn’t who you are anymore. Takeaways • Identity can evolve - even when the world expects you to stay the same • Behavioural change is slow - give yourself grace (20% after 6 months is still progress) • We are not designed to do life alone - build and use your support network • Young people don’t need “toughening up” - they need modelling, leadership and challenge • Praise can transform identity faster than punishment • Who you become matters more than what you achieve • Businesses have a role in shaping the next generation • Service without expectation fills the cup • Solitude and reflection are performance tools, not luxuries • Sometimes growth means shedding the skin that once protected you Keywords Daniel Wilsher, mental health, identity shift, personal reinvention, parenting in 2025, resilience, behavioural change, leadership, masculinity, hope for young people, school mental health, social media impact, ADHD, public speaking, trauma recovery, service leadership, solitude, reflection, LifeX program, youth development, corporate social responsibility, mentoring young men Chapters 00:00 – The “iOS Update” 02:00 – Shedding the story that built you 05:30 – Why behavioural change takes longer than you think 09:30 – The power of male support networks 13:00 – 100 talks in 20 days: the school tour 16:30 – The student who couldn’t name one good thing about himself 20:00 – What to tell a 15-year-old finding his way 22:00 – Working with kids vs corporates 24:00 – “Kids need to toughen up” — response to leaders 30:00 – Social media, AI & parenting in 2025 39:00 – Filling your own cup 44:00 – Daniel’s spoken word: Reflections 46:00 – What’s next? LifeX & the HOPE program 50:00 – Final takeaways
Joel Blake is a private client solicitor at Wilkes, a Future Faces ambassador, and a Greater Birmingham Young Professional of the Year winner - but his story starts in Dudley, navigating limited role models and plenty of “you’ll never make it” moments. In this episode, Joel shares how rejection shaped his resilience, why confidence is built over time, and the mantra that changed everything: it’s not who you know, it’s who knows you. We also dig into imposter syndrome, bridging generational gaps at work (including “upward mentoring”), and why networking works best when it’s human, not transactional. If you’re a young professional trying to find your way - or a leader who wants to build a stronger team culture - this one’s for you. Key takeaways Rejection is part of the process - consistency beats talent when you keep showing up. “It’s not who you know, it’s who knows you.” Put yourself in rooms and build real relationships. Authenticity wins long-term - pretending to be someone else is exhausting (and unnecessary). Networking isn’t transactional - it’s about genuine conversations and playing the long game. Upward mentoring matters - juniors bring value too; trust is built in the small moments. Working-class background = strength - it can become your edge for empathy, rapport, and connection. Get comfortable being uncomfortable - growth lives on the other side of fear. Keywords Joel Blake, Wilkes, private client solicitor, Future Faces, Greater Birmingham Chamber of Commerce, young professionals, Birmingham, West Midlands, Dudley, Jamaican heritage, social mobility, imposter syndrome, confidence, networking, mentorship, upward mentoring, leadership, trust, resilience, rejection, career development, professional services, law careers, authenticity, workplace culture, generational leadership, community, opportunity Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Joel Blake 01:57 Joel's Upbringing and Early Aspirations 06:55 Overcoming Challenges and Building Resilience 12:10 Career Journey at Wilkes 16:32 Navigating Change in the Legal Profession 21:14 Building Confidence and Professional Growth 24:14 Fostering Collaboration Across Generations 25:30 Unveiling Surprising Aspects of Personal Growth 27:00 The Power of Authentic Networking 30:09 Pride in Regional Development 34:13 Vision for the Future: Inspiring the Next Generation 36:00 Empowering Young Professionals through Future Faces 38:31 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing Authenticity 40:43 Encouragement for the Underestimated 43:36 Setting Ambitious Goals for 2026
In this conversation, Lisa Butler shares her inspiring journey from an 18-year military career to becoming a coach and advocate for courage and leadership. She discusses overcoming early challenges, the importance of resilience, and how her military experience shaped her understanding of courage. Lisa emphasises the need for individuals to be brave in their personal and professional lives, the significance of recognising and supporting others' struggles, and the role of boundaries in maintaining mental well-being. She introduces her upcoming initiative, The Courage Collective, aimed at fostering a supportive community for personal growth and empowerment. Takeaways Dreams start with tea and ginger biscuits. Importance of having that road track in your mind. Blow things up if you can. Courage shows up every day. There's a real importance of knowing who your people are. Help people to be brave. Be fierce in your own agency. We miss opportunities if we are not brave. Speak up about things that are wrong. Everyone needs a Gandalf stick. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Lisa Butler's Journey 02:50 Overcoming Early Challenges and Building Resilience 05:45 Military Career and Lessons Learned 08:57 Transitioning to Coaching and Leadership 11:54 The Importance of Courage in Today's World 14:42 Recognising and Supporting Others in Need 26:51 Navigating the 'I'm Fine' Culture 29:20 Inner Child Work and Rebuilding Confidence 31:57 Transforming Limiting Beliefs 35:29 The Importance of Values and Boundaries 42:12 Creating Community and Courage 50:05 Empowering Responses to Demeaning Language
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