The Show People Podcast With Andrew Keates

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This is part two of an in-depth conversation with comedian, writer, actor, presenter, children’s author, documentary maker and charity founder Rosie Jones. One of the boldest and most distinctive voices in British comedy, Rosie has appeared on The Last Leg, Live at the Apollo, QI, Taskmaster, Question Time, 8 Out of 10 Cats and many more. She is also the creator, co-writer and star of the Channel 4 sitcom Pushers and the founder of The Rosie Jones Foundation. In this urgent, candid and frequently riotous second instalment, Rosie reflects on the television appearance that changed her career and the complicated pressure of being expected to represent disabled people through her comedy. She charts her journey from feeling that every joke had to address her disability, through a period of refusing to discuss identity altogether, to finding a balance that allows her to be funny, political and unapologetically herself. Rosie speaks powerfully about appearing on Question Time, the ableist abuse and death threats that followed, and why she eventually stepped away from social media to protect her mental health. She discusses therapy with a counsellor who also has cerebral palsy, the importance of surrounding herself with supportive people, and the strength she has found in admitting that living with a disability can sometimes be extraordinarily difficult. The conversation also explores Rosie’s experiences working with The Last Leg, the urgent need for more disability-led television and the creation of her Channel 4 sitcom Pushers. Rosie explains why she fought for a predominantly disabled ensemble, meaningful representation behind the camera and an access coordinator who could ensure that every member of the company felt heard and supported. Rosie then shares the deeply personal mission behind The Rosie Jones Foundation, which provides people living with cerebral palsy with counselling delivered by therapists who share that lived experience. She discusses the stigma surrounding mental health support, the Foundation’s extraordinary achievement in funding 1,000 counselling sessions and why this work may ultimately become the proudest achievement of her life. In a moving final section, Andrew and Rosie discuss recovery, shame, addiction, community care and the forces that divide queer and disabled people. Together, they consider what it means to look after one another, speak up during a hostile political climate and become the adults their younger selves so desperately needed to see. Content note: This episode includes discussion of ableist language, online abuse and death threats, mental health, addiction, suicidal thoughts and discrimination. Episode Highlights Include: • Rosie’s first appearance on 8 Out of 10 Cats and the television moment that changed her career • The pressure of representing disabled people and finding a balance between comedy, identity and activism • The ableist abuse and death threats that followed her Question Time appearance • Why Rosie stepped away from social media to protect her mental health • Finding transformative support from a counsellor who also has cerebral palsy • Working with The Last Leg and the urgent need for more disability-led television • Creating Pushers with a predominantly disabled ensemble and meaningful representation behind the camera • Why accessible working practices make television better for everybody • The mission of The Rosie Jones Foundation and its lived-experience-led counselling • Funding 1,000 counselling sessions for people living with cerebral palsy • Andrew and Rosie on mental health, recovery, shame, community care and refusing to remain silent • What the younger Rosie would think of her life today, and her definitive answer about disabled people having sex Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Sean Lindsell @skl.photog on Instagram Audio and Stage Management by Liam Chaplin @djliamchaplin on Instagram Special Thanks Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers. Rosie’s Hair Styled Louis Wilson Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases and events. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Rosie Jones Instagram: @josierones www.rosiejonescomedy.com www.rosiejonesfoundation.com Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This is part one of an in-depth conversation with comedian, writer, actor, presenter, children’s author, documentary maker and charity founder Rosie Jones. One of the boldest and most distinctive voices in British comedy, Rosie has appeared on The Last Leg, Live at the Apollo, QI, Taskmaster, Question Time and many more. She is also the creator, co-writer and star of Channel 4 sitcom Pushers , the author of The Amazing Edie Eckhart , founder of The Rosie Jones Foundation, and the driving force behind the powerful documentary Rosie Jones: Am I a R*tard? . In this candid, moving and frequently riotous conversation, Rosie discusses growing up in Bridlington with ataxic cerebral palsy, the love and encouragement of her family, and her experiences of ableism from a very young age. She charts her journey from working behind the scenes as a television researcher and joke writer to finding her own voice as a stand-up comedian. Rosie also explores the extraordinary precision behind her comedy, the performers who shaped her work, and how she transformed the rhythm of her speech into one of her greatest creative strengths. In a deeply personal conversation, Andrew and Rosie discuss coming out, internalised ableism, the absence of positive queer-disabled representation, and learning that everyone deserves to be seen, celebrated and loved. Episode Highlights Include: • Growing up in Bridlington with ataxic cerebral palsy • How Rosie’s parents encouraged her to believe she could become anything she wanted • Her close relationship with her brother Oliver and his instinctive refusal to judge others • Experiencing ableism from the age of four and understanding its impact later in life • Why Rosie chose to confront the power of the R-word in her Channel 4 documentary • Living with daily ableist abuse and refusing to allow cruelty to diminish her • How the circumstances of her birth shaped her ambition and determination to live fully • The assumptions people make about physical disability and intelligence • The teachers who recognised Rosie’s talent and the importance of accessible education • Her lifelong admiration for children’s author Jacqueline Wilson • Working behind the scenes as a television researcher and joke writer • Writing lies for Would I Lie to You? and jokes for major comedy programmes • Her spontaneous first stand-up performance in front of eight people at a small comedy club • How Victoria Wood, Billy Connolly and Tig Notaro influenced her comic voice • Rosie’s “jigsaw” theory of joke-writing and why she considers every single syllable • Turning the natural rhythm of her speech into a powerful comedic advantage • The three questions comedians should ask before making a joke about somebody else • Her gradual journey towards coming out as a gay, disabled woman • How a lack of queer-disabled representation affected Rosie’s belief that she was worthy of love • Overcoming internalised ableism and finding a happy, loving relationship • Andrew and Rosie on shame, visibility, resilience and living unapologetically • And many stories about comedy, writing, identity, disability, queerness and finding your voice Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Sean Lindsell @skl.photog on Instagram Audio and Stage Management by Liam Chaplin @djliamchaplin on Instagram Special Thanks Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers. Rosie’s Hair Styled Louis Wilson Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases and events. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Rosie Jones Instagram: @josierones www.rosiejonescomedy.com www.rosiejonesfoundation.com Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This is part two of an in-depth conversation with West End and Broadway star Kerry Ellis. Widely recognised as one of the great leading ladies of British musical theatre, Kerry Ellis has played some of the most iconic roles in the West End, on Broadway and beyond. Best known for becoming the first British Elphaba in Wicked, Kerry’s extraordinary career includes originating Meat in the original London cast of We Will Rock You, playing Fantine in Les Misérables, Ellen in Miss Saigon, Nancy in Oliver!, Grizabella in Cats, and appearing in My Fair Lady, Anything Goes, Chess, The War of the Worlds and many more. Episode Highlights Include: • Does Kerry ever get sick of talking about Wicked? • Kerry’s relationship with Idina Menzel • Kerry’s approach to playing Elphaba and finding the comedy in the role • The reality of green makeup, glitter and becoming Elphaba night after night • The physical and emotional demands of performing Wicked eight shows a week • Backstage shenanigans with Oliver Tompsett, Diane Pilkington and the Wicked company • The personal cost of playing such a demanding role - 8 shows a week! • Why actors and theatre can save lives through escapism, community and connection • What Kerry has stolen from shows, and how exactly you break a broom • The key differences between working in the West End and on Broadway • Kerry’s experience working on the Wicked film with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo • Kerry’s Dalmatian puppy and her connection to Cruella • Motherhood, working in the West End and the challenges of modern culture • Regrets, happiness and learning what really matters • Kerry’s advice to young musical theatre students • And many more stories from both Andrew and Kerry about life, theatre, resilience and working in the performing arts. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Sean Lindsell @skl.photog on Instagram Audio and Stage Management by Liam Chaplin @djliamchaplin on Instagram Special Thanks Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases and events. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Kerry Ellis Instagram: @kerryellis79 www.kerryellis.com Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This is part one of an-depth conversation with West End and Broadway star Kerry Ellis. Widely recognised as one of the great leading ladies of British musical theatre, Kerry Ellis has played some of the most iconic roles in the West End, on Broadway and beyond. Best known for becoming the first British Elphaba in Wicked, Kerry’s extraordinary career includes originating Meat in the original London cast of We Will Rock You, playing Fantine in Les Misérables, Ellen in Miss Saigon, Nancy in Oliver!, Grizabella in Cats, and appearing in My Fair Lady, Anything Goes, Chess, The War of the Worlds and many more. In this conversation, Kerry discusses her journey from training at Laine Theatre Arts to becoming one of the most recognisable voices in musical theatre, her life-changing collaboration with Queen legend Brian May, the demands of leading major West End and Broadway shows, and what it takes to sustain a career at the very top of the industry, as well as a touching conversation between Andrew and Kerry about their shared ADHD diagnosis. Episode Highlights Include: • How Kerry’s childhood and training shaped the performer she became • Her early days at Laine Theatre Arts and breaking into the West End • Being discovered by Brian May while understudying Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady at the National Theatre. • Her early experiences of being thrown on-stage with little to no rehearsal. • Originating Meat in the original London cast of We Will Rock You • Playing Fantine in Les Misérables and other major musical theatre roles • Playing Grizabella in Cats and the pressure of singing Memory night after night. • Her long-running creative partnership with Brian May • The discipline required to lead major shows • How ADHD affects both the lives of Andrew Keates and Kerry Ellis. • And many stories from both Andrew and Kerry about life, theatre, resilience and working in the performing arts. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Sean Lindsell @skl.photog on Instagram Audio and Stage Management by Liam Chaplin @djliamchaplin on Instagram Special Thanks Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases and events. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Kerry Ellis Instagram: @kerryellis79 www.kerryellis.com Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This is the second part of an in-depth conversation with Olivier Award winning actor and writer Jack Holden. Recorded just before Jack travelled to America for the Off-Broadway transfer of Kenrex , and before he went on to win the Olivier Award for Best Actor, this conversation captures him at a thrilling turning point in his career. Best known for writing and performing Cruise , his acclaimed one-man play about Soho and the AIDS crisis of the 1980s, Jack discusses the creation of Kenrex , the true-crime thriller he co-wrote with Ed Stambollouian, in which he delivers a virtuosic solo performance playing multiple characters. Episode Highlights Include: • Creating his West End smash hit, Cruise and the challenges writing an AIDS play. • The physical and vocal techniques he uses for both Kenrex and Cruise • How he feels after Kenrex received six Olivier Award nominations • His experiences adapting Alan Hollinghurst’s The Line of Beauty. • Playing a real person in James Graham’s Ink • Working with Sean Bean in Marriage • What went wrong with the TV show Ten Percent • How he feels about working in America as a gay actor. • And many stories from both Andrew and Jack about working in the performing arts. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Paul Madeley paulmadeleystudio.com | @paulmadeleystudio Special Thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases and events. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Jack Holden & Kenrex Instagram: @1jackholden, @kenrextheplay Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an in-depth conversation with now, Olivier Award winning actor and writer Jack Holden. Recorded just before Jack travelled to America for the Off-Broadway transfer of Kenrex , and before he went on to win the Olivier Award for Best Actor, this conversation captures him at a thrilling turning point in his career. Best known for writing and performing Cruise , his acclaimed one-man play about Soho and the AIDS crisis of the 1980s, Jack discusses the creation of Kenrex , the true-crime thriller he co-wrote with Ed Stambollouian, in which he delivers a virtuosic solo performance playing multiple characters. Just some of the credits dicscussed include Marriage for BBC One, Ten Percent for Amazon, the RSC’s Oppenheimer, A Midsummer Night’s Dream , James Graham’s Ink at the Almeida and in the West End, War Horse for National Theatre and much, much more. Episode Highlights Include: • How Jack’s childhood shaped his career today • Discovering his sexuality at a young age • His experience of Bristol Old Vic theatre school • How he came to meet and collaborate with Kenrex director, Ed Stambollouian. • Starring in War Horse in the West End and working with Handspring’s puppets • How he has survived between jobs as an actor • Working with the RSC on Oppenheimer and A Midsummer Night’s Dream • The lesson’s he’s learned to be a great writer. • And many stories from both Andrew and Jack about working in the performing arts. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Paul Madeley paulmadeleystudio.com | @paulmadeleystudio Special Thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Jack Holden & Kenrex Instagram: @1jackholden, @kenrextheplay Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This is the second part of an in-depth conversation with legendary gay playwright, screen-writer and author - Martin Sherman. Perhaps best known for writing landmark gay play, Bent, As well as other stunning plays such as When She Danced, Messiah, Cracks, Gently Down The Stream and many, many others. On screen, his credits include Mrs Henderson Presents (BAFTA-nominated), The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone, Callas Forever, Alive and Kicking, and The Clothes in the Wardrobe. Across theatre and film, Martin has been nominated for two Tony Awards, two Olivier Awards and two BAFTA Awards, and he has crafted queer stories thoughtout the decades. Episode Highlights Include: • Opening night of Bent at the Royal Court. • Memories of working with legendary actors such as Sir Ian McKellen and Vanessa Redgrave DBE. • Taking Bent to Broadway and the trials and tribulations that came with it. • His experiences adapting Bent into a feature film and working with director Sean Mathias. • What it was like writing his masterpiece, Rose. • How he felt after his play Onassis was panned by critics in the West End. • Taking Bent to Broadway and the trials and tribulations that came with it. • How queer stories have changed over the decades and how age influenced his play, Gently Down The Stream . • And many other insights into playwriting and being one of the greatest gay playwrights to have written for stage and screen. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Paul Madeley paulmadeleystudio.com | @paulmadeleystudio Special Thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk On The Boardwalk by Martin Sherman, published by Inkandescent incandescent.co.uk | @inkandescent Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an in-depth conversation with legendary gay playwright, screen-writer and author - Martin Sherman. Perhaps best known for writing landmark gay play, Bent, As well as other stunning plays such as When She Danced, Messiah, Cracks, Gently Down The Stream and many, many others. On screen, his credits include Mrs Henderson Presents (BAFTA-nominated), The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone, Callas Forever, Alive and Kicking, and The Clothes in the Wardrobe. Across theatre and film, Martin has been nominated for two Tony Awards, two Olivier Awards and two BAFTA Awards, and he has crafted queer stories thoughtout the decades. Episode Highlights Include: • Martin Sherman on writing his memoir and why prose felt possible where theatre did not. • Growing up in the shadow of Huntington’s disease and the fear of inheritance. • A haunting childhood memory of his mother on the Atlantic City boardwalk. • The silence, mystery and influence of a mother who gave him Shakespeare and theatre. • How illness, family history and survival shaped his understanding of life and art. • Theatre as escape: seeing major productions in Philadelphia as a child. • The performances and actors that formed his artistic eye. • Martin’s father, charisma, narcissism and the performance of power. • A striking comparison between his father and Donald Trump. • What Martin learned from the Actors Studio and Lee Strasberg. • Why craft matters as much as emotional truth. • Realising he was not meant to be an actor, but a writer. • Passing By and the challenge of casting unapologetically gay characters in the 1970s. • Finding artistic and political community in London through Gay Sweatshop. • The origins of Bent and the image that unlocked the play. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Videography by Ned Wakeley of The Showreel Company theshowreelcompany.com | Instagram: @theshowreelcompany_ Photography by Paul Madeley paulmadeleystudio.com | @paulmadeleystudio Special Thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Pearl Mackie. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk On The Boardwalk by Martin Sherman, published by Inkandescent incandescent.co.uk | @inkandescent Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast , recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode is the second part of a conversation with actor, Marina Sirtis as the two boldly explore Marina's life and career. Episode Highlights Include: • Playing Deanna Troi in Star Trek . • Incredible encounters including King Charles and The Spice Girls. • Her West End debut in Dark Sublime by Michael Dennis. • Being reunited with her co-stars in Star Trek: Picard . • Her love of football. • Her advice to other actors. • Working on The Orville with Seth MacFarlane. • How she feels about leaving America to live in the UK. • Why she signed up to be in Sharknado . • And her pride for appearing in Crash . Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special Thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Pearl Mackie. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Marina Sirtis Instagram: @officialmarinasirtis Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an extraordinary conversation with actor and popular culture icon, Marina Sirtis. Episode Highlights Include: • A frank and honest conversation about being sexually abused as a child and how the trauma manifested into an eating disorder. • Marina's childhood, her difficult relationship with her mother, the trouble she used to get up to I her teenager years. • Marina's time at the Guildhall School of Speech and Drama and the difficulty she had with some of the teachers there. • Her earliest jobs, including working with a very difficult goat... • What it was like working with director Michael Winner. • What brought her to the United States of America • And of course, how she secured the role of Deanna Troi in Star Trek: The Next Generation and so many stories about bolding going where no woman has gone before. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Pearl Mackie. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Marina Sirtis Instagram: @officialmarinasirtis Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features part two of our extraordinary conversation with actor and activist, Pearl Mackie. Episode Highlights Include: • Her memories and lessons learned travelling in the TARDIS with Peter Capaldi in Doctor Who • How fame changed her life when appearing in Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time. • Working with great actors in the West End and the advice she has been given by them • Appearing in her many other roles in film and television, including The Diplomat. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Pearl Mackie. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Pearl Mackie Instagram: @therealpearlmackie Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an extraordinary conversation with actor and activist. Pearl Mackie. Episode Highlights Include: • Growing up in Brixton, a love of Judy Garland and watching musicals, wondering why there were no black faces. • The things she learned while training at the Bristol Old Vic Theatre School • How she survived after leaving drama schools and the many crazy jobs she had to take. • Climbing her way up the London fringe theatre scene and eventually getting her West End breaks. • What it means to be a young black queer woman and the intersectionality that comes with it. • And of course, many references to Bill Potts, her character in Doctor Who Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Pearl Mackie. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People Podcast Instagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew Keates Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeates www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Pearl Mackie Instagram: @therealpearlmackie Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates ‪for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from the Two Brewers in Clapham. In this second half of an extraordinary conversation, Sir Ian McKellen reflects on some of the most iconic roles of his career; from Richard III to Gods and Monsters, Gandalf, Magneto, and his legendary collaborations with Patrick Stewart. He also dives into grassroots theatre, sitcoms, Shakespeare, queer representation, and the roles he still hopes to play. Essential listening for fans of The Lord of the Rings, X-Men, Vicious, Shakespeare lovers, and anyone who cherishes Sir Ian’s extraordinary legacy. Episode Highlights Include: • His breakthrough with Richard III and how the film almost didn’t get made • The impact of Gods and Monsters and receiving his Oscar nomination • Gandalf’s legacy, the joy of filming The Lord of the Rings, and what it means to younger generations • Magneto, the political power of the X-Men universe, and why he nearly said no to the role • His friendship and collaborations with Patrick Stewart: Waiting for Godot, No Man’s Land, and their performances in South Africa • His passion for grassroots and Queer theatre, and why local repertory still matters • Working on The Dresser with Anthony Hopkins, and a hilarious encounter with Sir Tom Courtenay • Filming Vicious, performing for a live audience, and the importance of older queer characters on TV • Saying yes to Cats, his experience on set, and the unexpected joy of the project • Taking on Coriolanus, the physical challenge, and the depth of Shakespeare’s most complicated characters • The Shakespeare roles he still wants to play, including Antonio in The Merchant of Venice • His favourite speech from Thomas More, and why its message still resonates today Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Sir Ian McKellen. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Sir Ian McKellen Instagram: @ianmckellen Website: www.mckellen.com Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host ‪Andrew Keates‬ for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an extraordinary conversation with one of the world’s most celebrated actors: Sir Ian McKellen, a performer whose career spans over six decades, with more than sixty major awards across stage, screen and television, and whose voice in LGBTQ+ equality has inspired millions around the world. Episode Highlights Include: • Growing up in Burnley and Wigan during wartime Britain, and the family stories that shaped him, including the loss of his mother and sister. • First memories of stepping into a theatre and discovering performance • Life in repertory theatre at the Belgrade in 1961, and the reality of starting out • The breakthrough of Richard II and Edward II at Edinburgh, and the political weight of portraying a queer monarch • Originating the role of Max in Bent • How he came out on the radio and why the UK had to pay attention. • Advice for trans people during these impossible times. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-us Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey, and of course, Sir Ian McKellen. Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Sir Ian McKellen Instagram: @ianmckellen Website: www.mckellen.com Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host ‪Andrew Keates‬ for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. In Part Two of this unmissable conversation, Andrew welcomes back JP McCue – better known as Mary Mac – one of the UK’s most beloved drag performers, celebrated for her tartan, powerhouse vocals, and infamous Mary Mac medley across theatres, cruise ships, and queer venues worldwide. Episode Highlights Include: • Touring in Everybody’s Talking About Jamie – backstage antics, challenges, and why it continues to inspire young audiences. • Life at sea – the realities of performing on cruise ships and the sacrifices behind a career in drag. • La Cage Aux Folles at Regent’s Park – memories from one of the UK’s most joyful open-air productions. • Panto life – writing, starring, and sometimes directing your own! • Thoughts on RuPaul’s Drag Race – is it a force for good? • Friendship with Bianca Del Rio and reflections on today’s drag scene. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey, and of course, JP McCue Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow JP McCue Instagram: @marymacofficial, TikTok: @marymacofficial, or connect with him at www.marymacofficial.co.uk Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host ‪ Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an unmissable conversation with JP McCue, better known as Mary Mac - one of the UK’s most loved drag performers, famous for her tartan, powerhouse vocals, and infamous Mary Mac medley across theatres, cruise ships, and Queer venues worldwide. Episode Highlights Include: • How long it takes Mary Mac to get ready? • First memories of The Two Brewers and why LGBTQ+ spaces matter • Growing up in Glasgow, coming out in the 1990s, and the role family played in his life. • Training at GAMTA: highs, struggles, survival jobs, and the teachers who inspired him. • Early days of drag: the queens who lit the way, the toughest gigs, and his time with the Fabulettes. • Balancing drag with musical theatre, and how queer audiences have changed over the years. • Heroes, the future of drag, and whether RuPaul’s Drag Race has been a force for good. • Advice for young drag artists starting out. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment part two is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey, and of course, JP McCue Queer Theatre This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow JP McCue Instagram: @marymacofficial, TikTok: @marymacofficial, or connect with him at www.marymacofficial.co.uk Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host Andrew Keates for the second part of a very special relaunch of The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an intimate, wide-ranging conversation with national treasure, Sir Stephen Fry, celebrated writer, actor, comedian, broadcaster, and recent knight for his contributions to mental health awareness and environmental causes. Episode Highlights Include: - Views on JK Rowling and radicalised she has become and his current relatioship with her. - The benefits of re-writign the Greek myths and the universal human truths that come with doing so. - Why he is one of the most recognisable voices in the UK - The facts which still haunt him from QI - How he prepared to play roles such as Jeeves in Jeeves and Wooster, Oscar Wilde in Wilde and the interesting aspects of playing historic, iconic roles. - A very special letter he received from P.G. Wodehouse. - The worst audition he's ever had. - And just what is Claudia Winkleman's fringe like... Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment part two is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london . or Instagram: @the2brewers 🌈 This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk , Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates Or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Thank you for your support—until next time, love always.

The Show People Podcast is back! Join host Andrew Keates for a very special relaunch of The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an intimate, wide-ranging conversation with national treasure, Sir Stephen Fry, celebrated writer, actor, comedian, broadcaster, and recent knight for his contributions to mental health awareness and environmental causes. Episode Highlights Include: - Has Stephen ever been to the Two Brewers before? - Stephen’s formative years growing up, the first parts he played, how he discovered a love of language and how his Jewishness has shaped him. - His passion for working with friends, including collaborating with Hugh Laurie, Emma Thompson, Rowan Atkinson and his unforgettable experiences creating Blackadder, A Bit of Fry and Laurie and Jeeves and Wooster. - Advice for young actors. - How he prepared to play the role of Oscar Wilde and how the playwright, poet and essayist has inspired him throughout the years. - How fame does no necessarily lead to happiness - Frank and powerful discussions around mental health struggles, suicide, addiction and his advocacy for others. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment part two is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london . or Instagram: @the2brewers This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk , Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates Or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Thank you for your support - until next time, love always.

This episode was recorded in January 2020 - before Covid-19 changed everything. Andrew shares an explanation about where The Show People Podcast has been for most of 2020 and celebrates the podcast’s fourth anniversary. Andrew and Peter Polycarpou two discuss Peter’s childhood, his relationship with his sister Eve Polycarpou and their Greek heritage and representation within the industry. Peter explains his passion for teaching (including teaching Andrew when he was a teenager!) and playing his many roles in iconic productions including Miss Saigon, Les Miserables, The Phantom of the Opera, Sweeney Todd, Mike Bartlett’s Artefacts and his roles in film and television, including De Lovely, Evita and Birds of a Feather. Plus the two play Funny Five Minutes and Peter shares what he would need to survive if he was stranded on tour in Whitley Bay.

Trigger Warning: this episode includes discussions about mental health struggles, suicide and death. If you find yourself becoming upset during the episode, please contact the organisation or person you rely upon for support. Andrew Keates chats with journalist, broadcaster and presenter Matthew Wright about his controversial comments about using outside spaces during the Covid-19 pandemic, the last two years of coping with multiple bereavements and PTSD and what it’s like to be second to Nick Knowles in the world of fly fishing.