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You’re a good leader. You might even be a great one. Whether you’re leading a team of one, two, or three thousand, how you lead determines whether you survive or thrive in the workplace. I’m Kathy Andrews, and this is the For Leaders, By Leaders podcast. We’re here for insightful conversations with real leaders, sharing inspiration and practical advice to help you unlock the best in yourself and those around you. When you face those moments where you ask yourself, “What do I do?” or “How can I do better?”, this podcast is here to guide you. With interviews from influential leaders across industries—CEOs, entrepreneurs, authors, and thought leaders—we’ll dive into their personal stories, pivotal moments, and the strategies that led to their success. Each episode explores real-world scenarios, leadership challenges, and offers practical, actionable tools that you can apply immediately. Think of this as a leadership coach in your pocket. Join us on your favourite platform, and take your leadership to the next level.
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Vicki Heron shares how authentic leadership is built like a collage, not copied from someone else's playbook. Drawing on over twenty years of leading multidisciplinary teams in environmental consulting, she unpacks why consistency, clarity, and care matter more than charisma. From navigating male-dominated environments to leading through major acquisitions at WSP, this episode reveals how the environment shapes authenticity, why being liked is a trap, and how clear expectations make accountability possible without compromising empathy. In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Introduction (03:07) Defining authentic leadership as a standard, not a buzzword (05:23) What inauthentic leadership costs trust and performance (07:25) Pitfalls young leaders fall into and how to avoid them (11:07) How the environment shapes your ability to lead authentically (16:09) Letting people see the human behind the role (18:37) Balancing empathy with unwavering accountability (20:29) Why bringing your true self can become emotional leakage (25:10) Coaching employees who overshare at work (27:45) Onboarding practices that flip the conversation (35:21) Lightning round: values over voice in authentic leadership Connect with Vicki Heron here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vicki-heron-b604676b/ Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Elizabeth Cooke reveals how layering demographic data with engagement metrics exposes hidden disparities and creates targeted solutions. Her approach moves beyond political discourse to focus on measurable human dignity and workplace performance. Through real-world examples and practical frameworks, this episode demonstrates how evidence-based engagement transforms DEI from a compliance checklist into a sustainable cultural practice – helping leaders create genuine belonging through curiosity, consistency, and courage. In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Introduction (03:53) Why data reveals who's engaged and who's not (06:53) How DEI became over-politicised and lost focus on human experience (08:10) The business case versus moral imperative for inclusion (12:30) Pandemic insights: why engagement improved for marginalised groups (14:13) Leading with consistency, curiosity, and courage (16:57) Practice over posture: small behaviours drive cultural change (21:49) Supporting trauma and mental health while maintaining performance standards (23:23) Inclusion as a daily leadership practice, not an initiative (23:45) The power of asking: help me understand your experience Connect with Elizabeth Cooke here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elisabeth-cooke/ Website: https://dignii.com/ Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Why do high-performing, responsible leaders often struggle the most? Debbie Pearmain reveals the hidden truth: it's not a capability crisis, it's a capacity crisis. Drawing from 25 years in leadership development and her own burnout recovery, she shares how leaders move through three critical stages from functional stress to full burnout. Through practical frameworks and proven strategies, this episode will help you recognise the warning signs, implement recovery disciplines, and understand why wellness isn't a luxury – it's a leadership competency that directly impacts your team's performance. In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Introduction (04:38) Capacity crisis vs capability crisis (05:12) Stage one: functional stress and calendar architecture reset (08:30) Creating strategic filters for better decision making (13:24) Why self-management unlocks sustained high performance (16:26) Stage two: overextended leaders running on stress chemistry (19:35) Boundaries upgrade: controlling availability and emotional load (21:40) Stage three: burnout, detachment and confidence erosion (23:19) Why high performers don't know how to rest safely (25:06) Three types of recovery: physical, cognitive, and emotional (28:57) Capacity before efficiency: regulating your nervous system first (30:30) Your state spreads: wellness as leadership competency Connect with Debbie Pearmain here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-lang-pearmain-116551/ Website: https://onestophr.ca/ Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Why do some teams excel while others struggle, despite similar talent and resources? Scott Rintoul reveals how youth sports mirrors corporate dynamics, exploring the parallels between coaching and leadership. Drawing from his broadcasting experience and Better Sports Parents podcast, he uncovers why understanding individual motivation trumps generic team building. This conversation will help you rethink leadership fundamentals, from establishing clear values to creating authentic buy-in across generations with vastly different workplace expectations. In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Introduction (04:39) Understanding individual motivations within team structures (07:51) How miscommunication creates confusion between authority figures (10:13) Building organisational alignment from ownership to front lines (13:26) Getting genuine buy-in through collaborative goal setting (16:56) The relationship foundation that enables effective leadership (19:25) Making every role feel valued within the larger mission (22:47) Adapting leadership styles for generational workplace shifts (25:43) Moving beyond culture buzzwords to actionable value implementation (32:08) Why leaders must understand what brings people to the starting line Connect with Scott Rintoul here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottrintoul/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottrintoulpro/ Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Mark McEachran from Adaptive Talent Inc. explores how AI is transforming executive search while highlighting the irreplaceable human elements of talent acquisition. He joins Kathy Andrews to unpack strategies for hiring leaders, from crafting compelling role narratives to conducting deeper interviews that reveal true character. Mark shares insights on avoiding common hiring pitfalls, leveraging technology effectively, and ensuring cultural alignment when building teams. In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Introduction (04:33) Transforming market mapping and sourcing with AI (11:55) Critical human judgment in leadership hiring (16:43) Values alignment and realistic role profiling (24:44) Interview strategies for cultural fit assessment (32:04) Offer negotiations revealing true character Connect with Mark McEachran here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mceachranmark/ Website: https://adaptivetalent.co/ Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
What if the secret to hypergrowth isn't about the latest marketing tools, but about completely abandoning your internal assumptions? In this episode, Michelle Rider, former Amazon marketing leader and creator of the Zero to 90 methodology, challenges leaders to stop believing their own story and start building from the customer's perspective backwards. From her humble beginnings, secretly writing down business terms at Kellogg to scaling marketing campaigns at global giants like Coca-Cola, Amazon, and Teladoc, Michelle reveals how she consistently doubled revenue by focusing on one core principle: putting yourself in the daily life of the consumer. In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Introduction (03:45) Combining instinct, data, and trends for business growth (05:20) The critical focus areas for rapid scaling (07:03) The Xero to 90 methodology (14:49) How AI tools like ChatGPT do not replace strategic thinking (18:49) The Teladoc case study about customer-focused messaging (25:52) Scaling strategies – repeat what works, stick to the top ideas (29:54) Getting authentic customer language by solving their pain points Connect with Michelle Rider here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellejrider/ Website: http://www.michelle-rider.com/ Article – How Telemedicine Helped Me Save My Son: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/when-use-telehealth-services-michelle-rider/ Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Leadership coach Mark Watson to dive deep into needs-based communication, a powerful framework rooted in the work of Marshall Rosenberg and popularised through Nonviolent Communication. Tune into this episode as we unpack how this four-step approach – starting with the facts, naming feelings, identifying needs, and making clear requests – can transform the way leaders connect, build trust, and navigate challenging conversations. Mark also shares how mastering authentic communication isn't just for conflict resolution but is foundational for thriving teams and organisations. In this episode, we explore: (00:00) Introduction (05:38) Leading with strategy and clear communication (08:28) Using NVC (Nonviolent Communication) as a leadership tool (11:07) The difference between feelings and judgments (15:05) When a CEO shuts down input in a meeting (18:22) Connecting feelings to underlying needs (21:27) Doing the inner work to resolve conflict (23:49) The legacy of nonviolent communication (26:28) The power of observing and asking (31:16) Building empathy through compassionate communication (34:03) Authentic leadership through better communication Connect with Mark Watson here: Mark Watson’s LinkedIn McLean Watson Website The Center for Nonviolent Communication Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Decision-making isn’t just about data, it’s about judgment, emotion, and leadership under pressure. Phil Neil, CEO of Founders Compass, brings a powerful perspective shaped by building a $70M company and losing it in a devastating fire. Phil reveals how leaders can cut through information overload, develop sharper intuition, and navigate emotional patterns that influence critical decisions. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, clarity, and leading yourself before you lead others. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (02:00) Introduction and Phil Neil’s background (05:33) Pressure, founders and inner resilience (12:13) Finding your anchor (14:36) Leading yourself through hard moments (16:26) Leadership archetypes and personal transformation (20:30) Personality patterns and better decisions (23:44) Courage without a clear plan (29:46) Building self-awareness and balance (32:33) Mindful decisions and strategic clarity (35:28) Better leaders build better businesses Connect with Phil Neil here: Phil Neil on LinkedIn Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
As a political refugee who crossed three countries before finding home in Canada, Anne-Marie Pham turned her lived experience into a career dedicated to creating workplaces where everyone belongs. She is now the Vice President of Engagement at the Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion. In this episode, Anne-Marie unpacks why leadership demands courage and a willingness to get uncomfortable. She shares practical frameworks leaders can use today, along with mindset shifts that transform diversity from a checkbox into a superpower. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (00:00) Building inclusion across Canada (04:23) Embracing industry collaboration challenges (07:44) Building inclusive, equitable workplaces (11:32) Six traits of inclusive leadership (15:08) Courage, accountability and collaboration (17:41) Embracing cultures with open minds (23:35) Flexible holidays for inclusion (27:51) Understanding cultural influences in leadership (31:12) Shared responsibility in leadership feedback (33:01) Future of work and immigration (36:13) Diversity resources and programs offered Connect with Andrea Seale here: Anne-Marie Pham on LinkedIn Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Today, we’re exploring how neuroscience and technology are reshaping leadership with Jaime Lama from the NeuroLeadership Institute. As a psychologist with 30 years in HR and consulting, Jaime brings deep expertise in guiding organisations through change. Jaime breaks down how the brain drives behaviour, from survival instincts to the role of emotions in decision-making. We discuss emotional regulation, unconscious bias and how leaders can better understand the unconscious drivers behind daily choices. Whether you lead a small team or thousands, you’ll gain practical insights on psychological safety, growth mindset, and the human skills technology can’t replace. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (05:58) Origins of the brain’s organisational principles (07:55) Brain’s threat detection network (12:47) Experience bias and brain function (16:15) Bias in AI and how to navigate it (19:42) How our brains evolved for survival (21:40) Amplified intelligence through AI collaboration (25:26) Dynamics of AI and human growth (28:58) Evolving brains for collaborative leadership (30:31) Clarity and mental health during COVID (33:49) Psychological safety boosts performance (39:24) Leadership accountability in changing times (40:31) Leadership and trust dynamics Connect with Jaime Lama here: Connect with Jaime Lama on LinkedIn NeuroLeadership Institute on LinkedIn NeuroLeadership Institute Website Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Leadership expert Tracy Hutton shares how focusing on strengths, not weaknesses, can transform your team’s performance and well-being. Drawing from her experience at Deloitte and lululemon, Tracy reveals why strengths based leadership isn’t just a feel-good idea – it’s grounded in neuroscience and proven to drive results. Learn how to overcome negativity bias, build better teams, and rethink feedback and development for lasting impact. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (04:24) An unexpected opportunity (06:27) Personal and professional growth at lululemon (09:48) Understanding a strengths based approach (13:22) True strengths are energising activities (18:53) Clarifying job role verbs (25:58) Exploring unrealised strengths (28:25) Reframing perceived weaknesses (30:14) Following curiosity to support wellbeing (34:19) Rethinking leadership competency models (42:58) Maximising strengths without misapplying them (46:51) Ask employees what went well (48:32) Embracing positivity and gratitude Connect with Andrea Seale here: Connect with Tracy Hutton on LinkedIn First, Break All the Rules – Book Rise Above – Book Work by Dr. Robert Biswas-Diener Nine Lies About Work – Book Strengths Finder 2.0 – Book Buddha's Brain – Book Hardwiring Happiness – Book Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Dr. Ben Sporer is one of Canada’s foremost experts in human performance. With a career spanning 25 years in the Olympics, professional sports, and as a performance strategist for the Vancouver Whitecaps, Ben has mastered the art of building high-performing teams that deliver over the long haul. Kathy and Ben dig into the critical shift leaders need to make: from chasing outputs to driving meaningful outcomes. They explore how clear objectives, role clarity, and disciplined preparation create the foundation for sustainable success Tune in to this episode as we explore: (05:30) Rebuilding sports team strategy (07:51) Defining leadership performance objectives (13:39) Identifying outputs for success (15:41) Developing talent in small markets (19:09) Clear objectives and roles for team success (26:11) Metric-driven success over time (28:37) Effective metrics: lead vs lag indicators Connect with Dan Eisner here: Dr. Ben Sporer on LinkedIn Resync Consulting Output – Book Output – Instagram Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Why do so many employee wellness programs fail, and what can leaders do to fix them? Employee benefit and wellness expert Dan Eisner unpacks what leaders can do. With a background in both accounting and HR, Dan shares insights on shifting employee expectations, personalised benefits, and generational divides. From health spending accounts to weight loss drugs and fitness trends, find out what actually drives engagement. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (01:44) Dan Eisner’s career journey and background (02:26) What is changing in the world of wellness? (05:37) Why employees aren't using wellness programs (07:39) Having a health spending account (10:44) How to encourage fitness at work (13:07) Tips to keep your workforce as healthy as possible (15:42) Modelling behaviour as leaders (17:30) For Leaders By Leaders Lightning Round Connect with Dan Eisner here: Dan Eisner on LinkedIn ZLC Employee Benefits Solutions Better Benefits Podcast Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Innovation expert Stephen Shapiro talks about standing out by focusing on what makes you truly irreplaceable. Drawing from his book Pivotal, Stephen shares why innovation is a capability, not a trend. Learn how to avoid shiny-object syndrome, embrace stability, and uncover your team’s real differentiator… plus a look at his teamwork tool, Personality Poker. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (03:40) Building stability before change (07:38) Individual differentiation drives organisational success (12:15) Radio flyer's purpose: lasting smiles (13:45) Creating distinctive customer experiences (18:42) Focus on present differentiators (22:52) Real-time feedback in leadership (26:08) Focus on identifying opportunities (29:35) Engage lost and potential customers (30:33) Combatting confirmation bias in innovation (34:18) Refocus on core strengths Connect with Andrea Seale here: Connect with Stephen Shapiro on LinkedIn Stephen Shapiro’s Website Pivotal – Book Personality Poker Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Andrea Seale, CEO of the Canadian Cancer Society, joins the show to discuss the power of influence in leadership. Andrea shares her journey from communications and fundraising to the heart of nonprofit leadership, offering practical insights on how to rally teams, build effective partnerships, and drive change, whether you’re working with donors, advocacy groups, or policymakers. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (05:58) Cialdini's persuasion principles (08:32) Leveraging consistency for influence (12:45) Effective listening in consulting partnerships (14:31) Collaborative glioblastoma research summit (18:12) Misinformation in cancer search results (21:44) Importance of communication in storytelling (24:02) Empowering cancer advocates for change (28:23) Influencing change through systems strategy (33:47) Leading through crises: challenges and triumphs (34:56) Leading change at Canadian Cancer Society Connect with Andrea Seale here: Andrea Seale on LinkedIn Canadian Cancer Society Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Rachael Radford doesn’t fit the usual tech founder mold. From working on concrete formwork high above the Vancouver skyline to spearheading complex technology transformations, her journey is anything but conventional. In this episode, she sits down to unpack one of the most overlooked – and misunderstood – aspects of business: strategic execution. You’ll hear Rachael’s take on assessing organisational readiness, creating genuine accountability, and making strategy stick Tune in to this episode as we explore: (05:41) How to set maturity goals that actually drive progress (09:21) What success really looks like across departments (13:15) Aligning your role with the bigger strategy (15:40) Using forward thinking to influence outcomes (21:10) How to adapt when the market shifts (22:30) Focusing your strategy for real growth (27:27) Why peer support matters in scaling strategy (29:25) Planning to stand out, not just keep up Connect with Andrea Seale here: Rachael Radford on LinkedIn MEIRA Consulting Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
Shelley Frost, CEO of the Pacific National Exhibition (PNE), joins the show to talk about leading one of BC’s most iconic and complex organizations. From early roles in a psychiatric hospital and juvenile jail to leading in tech and the arts, Shelley’s path has shaped a unique approach to leadership. She shares how managing unpredictability and diverse stakeholders prepared her to run the PNE – home to major events, an amusement park, and key youth employment programs. They discuss balancing legacy with innovation, leading through ambiguity, and building operational excellence. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (03:15) From consulting to finding local purpose (09:04) Aligning vision in complex teams (11:48) Leading with adaptability (15:41) Making decisions with clarity (17:52) A collaborative planning approach (21:29) Communicating with seasonal staff (25:46) Unearthing hidden war relics (27:29) Behind Vancouver’s FIFA fan fest (30:23) Inside the concert and show lineup Connect with Shelley Frost here: LinkedIn Pacific National Exhibition (PNE) PNE Instagram Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
George Grombacher is a seasoned podcaster, former Fortune 500 advisor, President of Financial Consulting Professionals, and the Founder and Chief Community Officer of Money Alignment Academy. He sits down with Kathy Andrews to unpack the hidden impact of financial well-being, both personally and professionally. George opens up about growing up with financial uncertainty and how those early experiences shaped his beliefs around money. He uncovers the deep emotional layers behind our financial behaviors – and why ignoring money stress at work could be costing businesses more than you think. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (04:10) Confronting financial avoidance and scarcity (09:54) Prioritizing financial literacy (11:22) Simplifying financial planning basics (14:54) Embracing financial wellness at work (18:55) An immigrant's journey to financial literacy (21:43) Tailored financial wellness training (24:32) How money and beliefs shape life Connect with George Grombacher here: LinkedIn Money Alignment Academy Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
What if the key to unlocking your team’s potential isn’t giving answers, but asking the right questions? In this episode of For Leaders By Leaders, Principal of Wessels HR and Leadership Coach Tammie Wessels reveals how a coaching culture transforms teams. From her psychology roots to working with top Canadian brands, she shares hard-won leadership insights. Hosted by Kathy Andrews, this conversation breaks down coaching vs. mentoring, the psychology of high-performing teams, and why psychological safety is essential. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (06:05) Shifting to a coaching culture (08:07) Cultivating leadership through empowerment (12:01) Shift to a long-term coaching mindset (14:09) Quick coaching through conversation (18:04) Implementing coaching culture training (21:31) Empowering recruitment through coaching Connect with Tammie Wessels here: LinkedIn Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here .
In this episode of For Leaders By Leaders, I sit down with Chris Obst, a leadership and team development expert with over 20 years of experience coaching top performers and consulting for leading organizations. Chris is known for his powerful keynotes and ability to translate leadership insights into real-world strategies that drive impact. We dive into personal power—what it is, why it matters, and how we can harness it to elevate our energy and performance at work. Chris shares practical ways to avoid common leadership pitfalls, maximize our energy throughout the day, and bring our best selves home to the people who matter most. If you're looking for actionable strategies to boost your leadership presence and sustain your energy, this episode is for you! Connect with Chris Obst here Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here.
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