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Lester and Kynan attempt to explain, evaluate, enlighten and elucidate the Academy Award-winning film, Everything Everywhere All At Once, minute by multiversal minute! Now, you may only see a couple of chuckleheads trying to talk about a movie and getting distracted by all the cool references and easter eggs…but we see a story! Follow us through the multiverse as we explore each individual minute of this amazing film!
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Evelyn pulls Waymond close at the party while Deirdre's forty-eight hour eviction notice fades in and out of the background. Across universes at the same time: she rips the hat off Chad at the teppanyaki table to reveal Raccacoonie, slams Foxy Waymond against the alley wall and kisses him, throws a handful of elbow macaroni in his face, stabs Atrium Waymond with a shard of broken glass and pulls it out slowly with cold fascination, pushes the divorce papers into Party Waymond's chest, and in the hot dog universe, Deirdre hops away out the door on one foot with her carry-on trailing from the other. Foxy Waymond breaks the kiss and pushes Evelyn away.We go frame by frame through this sequence: the rotating strobe that makes a motionless Michelle Yeoh look like she's cycling through different people, the red light taking over as the decisions get worse, the exact moment Evelyn crosses over from vacant to something colder and more alive. We break down why the stabbing itself isn't shown—we only get the aftermath, Evelyn holding up the glass and registering what she's done with the detached curiosity of someone running an experiment—and we bring in Bruce Block's film theory on triangles: circles are calm, rectangles are stable, and triangles are shards. This is the first major triangle in a film of circles and bagels. Ke Huy Quan's face in that moment isn't asking why. It's asking how. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Foxy Waymond gently pushes Evelyn's hands back down and says, if you don't mean it, please don't give me any false hope. Evelyn's laughter bleeds in from across the universe before we even cut. At Gong Gong's party, she grabs the karaoke mic, shouts Happy New Year, signs the divorce papers in front of everyone, tells Waymond no more running, and then Deirdre walks in with two cops to announce the seizure of their personal and business assets. Evelyn smiles with her fingers tented like Mr. Burns.We go shot by shot through the party: Waymond pulling off the lion-or-dragon head looking stricken, the full spectrum of guest reactions from D.Y. Sao's bafflement to Craig Ng still having a fantastic time to Waymond Lee bracing for impact. We dig into why Deirdre crashing this party in person after hours actually makes emotional sense if you read her as someone who extended real trust to the Wongs and got shut up, nothing matters on the phone. We catch Joy watching from outside the window at 1:36:45, parallel to the cops coming in, in a shot easy to miss on first watch. And we spend genuine time on the lion dance versus dragon dance question, which has no clean answer, and why that might be exactly right for the Wongs. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Foxy Waymond asks what if you had come with me all those years ago — and then we're at the New Year's party in full swing. Evelyn comes back to life in the Alpha Verse, stares at her hands, and the music rises with what sounds exactly like a hero's reawakening. Then she picks up the phone, tells Deirdre to shut up, tells her nothing matters, and her eyes fill with black. We end in the green-lit alleyway outside the Hong Kong theater, with Evelyn advancing on Waymond saying they'd have woken up every day in a tiny apartment.We spend time on Rick, played by the late Biff Wiff, who passed away in February 2025 after a late-career run that included this film, I Think You Should Leave, and Jury Duty. He's standing at the party in his red suspenders, insinuating himself just close enough to Evelyn to be technically arguable, and we trace everything the movie has done with him since the beginning. We also dig into Debbie the Dog Mom showing up without the dog and actually talking animatedly with Evelyn like they're friends, Jobu's expression when "nothing matters" lands — not triumph, something much more like nausea — and the shot of Evelyn's eyes going black, which is easy to miss and hard to come back from. The false hope of this minute is the whole point. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
The bagel pulses, and every version of Evelyn feels it at once. We watch them in rapid succession staring directly into the camera — from the IRS, from Hong Kong, from a robotics factory with a red eye, from a winter street where she appears to be the cold itself, from a scene near the end of the film with blood in her mouth looking genuinely monstrous — before landing at Gong Gong's party, where red envelopes are being handed out, the Chinese New Year decorations are finally up, and Debbie the Dog Mom has somehow actually shown up. Then Jobu's voice comes in from the temple: all this time, she wasn't looking for someone to kill. She was looking for someone who could see what she sees and feel what she feels. We get pulled through the eye of the bagel, past a swirling vortex that turns out to contain an enormous number of toilets and guitars, and land outside the Hong Kong theater with Foxy Waymond.We go frame by frame through the entire montage, cover what red envelopes are and why Gong Gong gets to hand them out, try to explain why Joy is simultaneously inside and outside the laundromat at the same time, and spend a long time on the moment Jobu's plan is finally revealed, comparing it to the script version and to why the finished line lands so much harder. The short version: we thought this was a movie about stopping a villain. It turns out it was always about a mother and a daughter who stopped being able to talk to each other. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Jobu finishes telling Evelyn that right is a tiny box invented by people who are afraid, and the film cuts to a memory: Joy introducing Becky to Gong Gong, the same scene from the start of the movie, except Evelyn's face looks different this time, softer, more apologetic. Back in the temple, Evelyn insists she still knows who she is, that her life was happy. Jobu, instead of looking triumphant, looks almost sad. Then two acolytes tear the curtains down (not pull, tear) and reveal the bagel, still bagel-sized, somehow filling the entire frame anyway, pulsing hard enough to crack the marble walls of the inner sanctum before sucking Evelyn, Jobu, and the audience through a single eye into the hot dog universe.We spent a good chunk of this episode on sacred inner sanctums across world religions, from the Jewish Holy of Holies to Hindu garbagrihas to Shinto honden, trying to figure out what the Daniels were drawing on when they designed this space (the building really was a Catholic cathedral, which explains a lot). We also dig into a cut script line where Jobu makes the binary explicit, telling Evelyn she can love and hate her at the same time now, and we walk through exactly how this bagel reveal differs from the one we glimpsed earlier in the film, including a continuity wrinkle in just how cracked those walls already were. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X Krzysztof Penderecki, "Polymorphia" --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Evelyn is marched the length of the Bagel Temple, a real downtown Los Angeles building that used to be a working Catholic cathedral, past rows of white-robed acolytes including one very recognizable face standing just behind her shoulder the whole time. Jobu hands her a Dr. Seuss-style picture book titled, in a nice bit of self-reference, Everything Everywhere All at Once, with the line "I am your daughter, your daughter is me" written in cheerful rhyme. Evelyn flashes back to a tense, unfinished moment in the Winnebago, and Jobu closes things out with a line that sounds wise enough to stop the scene cold: right is a tiny box invented by people who are afraid.We spend a good chunk of this episode on the temple itself, the former Cathedral of Saint Vibiana, now an event venue that's hosted music videos for Beyoncé and The Weeknd, and we correct ourselves on an earlier mistaken claim about which building this actually is. We also dig into a deleted draft of this scene that gives the silent acolyte standing behind Evelyn real dialogue, defending Jobu's worldview almost like recited scripture, and what it means that the finished film cut her lines but kept her devotion written all over her face. And we talk about why an earlier, more philosophically tangled draft of this confrontation, one that actually argues about whether Evelyn's understanding of the multiverse is correct, got simplified down to something much more emotional: Jobu doesn't need to win an argument about reality. She needs her mother to admit she got something wrong. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Evelyn asks Jobu a real question — not an accusation dressed as a question, but an actual "why" with no predetermined answer waiting — and Jobu responds by inviting her to sit on the crack of the couch. They fall through. They land in the Alpha Winnebago, where Evelyn is a talking urn coughing on her own ashes, a retired Alpha Waymond is doing the crossword, and the big revelation is this: the Alpha Verse wasn't destroyed by Jobu. It was destroyed by verse jumping itself — by everyone finding whatever version of truth they wanted and then just fighting about it forever. The Daniels filmed that speech with a camera pushing in and the score swelling. We have thoughts.We dig into why that deleted scene was cut (it introduces infinite Alpha Verses, which would dissolve the stakes the film needs), what Evelyn's genuine open-ended question to Jobu actually costs her, and a long conversation about conspiratorial thinking, personal truth, and what it means when people stop caring whether something is real. Then the curtain opens on the Bagel Temple, and Jobu — dressed like alien royalty, per the script — is sitting there posed and barely containing her excitement, because the hero was never the obstacle. The hero was always the goal. Captain Hook letting Peter go. Father Marin finally arriving at the Macneil house. Evelyn, coming through the curtain, dressed like a peasant. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X Deleted Scene! --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Everything in This MinuteIn minute 91 of Everything Everywhere All at Once, Jobu tells Evelyn "you're like me" and invites a punch — which Evelyn throws, badly — triggering a strobe-lit freeze and a rapid montage of mother-daughter interactions: braiding hair, strangling each other, playing chess, riding a tandem bicycle, and doing something that might be Thriller. They both end up holding their noses, Waymond wanders in, and Jobu announces she just fell on the couch.This Episode All at OnceWe spend a lot of time in this room, and that is correct. The Wong family living space — the mirror from the film's very first shot, the unused exercise bike, the two VCRs attached to a flat screen, the possibly-bok-choy glass sculpture with a googly eye, the old cat carrier — turns out to be a place worth staring at for a long time.We dig into the villain trope double-header happening across this and the previous minute — the "this is how the world really works" speech plus the "we're not so different, you and I" moment — and compare the motivation behind each, from Syndrome's "if everyone's super, nobody is" to Satan's forty-day argument with Jesus in Paradise Regained. We also track how the Jackie Chan script handles the same scene, with Joy's version landing entirely differently: warm, welcoming, genuinely excited that dad has finally caught up. Then there's the Happiness board game by Milton Bradley sitting on the shelf — real, from the 1970s, with six different themed paths (love, health, friendship, self-improvement) and no guaranteed way to finish any of them. And we discover that Joy's cat was named Bagel, which we are choosing to believe.Everything Else The rapid montage reads like a fight, but most of those frames are things you actually do with your daughter: braid her hair, play chess, ride a bike together. The strangling is less ambiguous. Jobu's "la la la" after Evelyn's karaoke cover story is not in the script — it's a discovered line, either Stephanie Hsu or the Daniels on the day, and it's perfect: backing mom's play while somehow making it worse. Waymond enters but takes exactly one step off the shoe-free zone to grab a bag, keeping his shoes off the rest of the floor. That detail was put there by someone who grew up in that house. Joy is wearing house slippers, not boots, on the couch — she switched them at the door, at some point, during or between universe jumps. The universes are at stake and someone made sure to do that. Evelyn punched her daughter in the face, which we are going on record as saying is bad. Waymond bought it. The couch, the mirror, the Happiness board game, the cat carrier — this room holds everything.Everywhere Else Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Jobu is in the building — and she's smiling with a smile that is definitely not Joy's. From the laundromat, she drags Evelyn through a bamboo forest Wuxia standoff, a black-and-white prison corridor, a fully animated crayon universe where a stab wound erupts in candy, and finally a park where piñata versions of both of them hang from a tree until a blindfolded kid ends the minute. The funniest concrete beat: the bamboo branch Jobu tears from a tree transforms through roughly thirty objects — a tiny shark, a Minecraft torch, a novelty lollipop, a number one foam finger, and what appears to be an Oscar — while Evelyn stands there watching the light show reflect off her face.We go deep on the craft of this sequence: how the crayon animation is drawn fresh on new paper every single frame, why Evelyn accidentally yanks them into the cartoon world (and why that delights Jobu), and how a single bamboo plant just off camera and some well-placed fog turns a California park into a Wuxia film. We also deliver on a promise made in the very first episode of this show: the history of piñatas. Turns out the word derives from an Italian term for a clay pot, they arrived in Spain as a Lent tradition with seven points representing the seven deadly sins, and — here's the part that sent us into a spiral — they were originally Chinese, brought to Europe by Marco Polo, and made in the shape of New Year's animals. Evelyn's clay pot is leaking. Her mind is a piñata. We don't think the Daniels knew any of this, which makes it so much better. Show archive Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Banana for Scale Facebook Group The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Part Two of Everything Everywhere All at Once begins here, and it sneaks up on you. Evelyn sits at her dining room table, holds up that receipt with the big black circle, and splits the screen cleanly in two — placing it in both piles at once. Warm piano kicks in, title cards appear, and then a buzzer cuts everything off: the Chinese choir has arrived, and right behind them is Joy.Before we get there, we finally deliver on last episode's promise and cover the Spaghetti Baby Noodle Boy deleted scene in full. An elbow macaroni rises through a boiling pasta pot — voiced by Jenny Slate — calling out for his spaghetti mother, asking whether he'll stick to the wall on Throwing Day, and wondering why God would give him a hole for no reason. The Daniels called it the hardest thing they ever cut. We connect Evelyn's response to him — "you're not gonna stick, you're a different kind of pasta" — to the first real flicker of her villain arc.We also dig into what Evelyn's clean universe-split actually means (control of powers, wrong use of powers), break down the quantum suicide imagery in the receipt shot, and spend a loving amount of time on the Chinese choir: the late Waymond Lee reunited with Craig Ng in the doorway of the laundromat, with D.Y. Sao following along and Waymond Lee doing absolutely none of what Craig Ng is conducting. Show archive Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Banana for Scale Facebook Group The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Hot Dog Deirdre is alone in the frame, back to the camera, crumpling to her knees as Evelyn makes her escape — and she doesn't even get her own shot for it. Then we're in a rain-soaked Hong Kong alley where Foxy Waymond catches a stumbling, multiverse-fried Evelyn and drapes his coat over her while she murmurs about her clay pot leaking. She pinches her temples like a bargain-bin psychic, ricochets through a rapid montage of universes (a courtroom, a bus with a very animated Borat lookalike, a fisheye outdoor shot), and lands back at the laundromat table, sweating, triumphant: "I did it."We go deep on the Hot Dog Universe's production design — turns out those are deliberately hot-dog-shaped blinds, the lampshades are structured like frozen frankfurters, and there's a casserole dish of Wonder Bread buns that may or may not be a romance prop. We trace Foxy Waymond's "just think happy thoughts" impulse (cut from the final film, present in the 2022 script) back to our Waymond's lifelong optimism, break down how the body-swap genre usually handles misunderstanding versus how this film complicates it, and introduce Spaghetti Baby Noodle Boy — a filmed-but-deleted character who will get their full due next episode.Then Lester finds a Reddit thread about moquette — the algorithmically generated, stain-incorporating fabric on public transit seats — and Kynan connects it directly to the film's thesis about finding pattern and meaning in apparent randomness. It sounds unhinged. It works completely. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X Reddit thread: "ELI5: How do bus seat patterns work?" Spaghetti Baby Noodle Boy deleted scene --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Everything in This MinuteIn minute 87 of Everything Everywhere All at Once, Opera Evelyn collapses onstage and Gong Gong rushes to help, calling her name in Cantonese. She gets up on her own and pushes past him, exiting stage left. We get a final shot from behind the ornamental archway—a clear circle—with Evelyn leaving the circle and leaving Gong Gong alone on stage.We follow Evelyn into the Teppanyaki kitchen where she's now Teppanyaki Evelyn. As she emerges through the partition, she looks at her uniform and her eyes catch something. Before we even see who she's looking at, we hear singing: a voice sings "we're a family," a deeper voice responds "culinarily," the first voice repeats it, and both sing "now we're cookin'." We pan out and reveal Chad—with a raccoon perched on his head pulling tufts of his hair to manipulate his arms and help him cook. It's Raccacoonie, voiced by none other than Randy Newman.Evelyn mouths "Raccacooni?" in utter disbelief. Over her shoulder looking at them from the back, we hear Raccacoonie say "yeah, we make a pretty good team." They continue singing, but Evelyn has grabbed a knife sharpener. The noise makes our singers turn around in surprise—but it's Raccacoonie who notices first (he's the one controlling Chad). Chad turns and says "you can't tell anyone," but Raccacoonie makes an executive decision: "she's seen too much, you know what that means." Evelyn puts her hands up and begins backing away as Raccacoonie pulls Chad's hair saying "get her, get her." Chad's arms begin to flail and he says "I'm begging you," but his hand suddenly brandishes a spatula—a teppanyaki spatula that still makes that shink metal knife sound. Chad and Rackakoonie advance, and Evelyn, terrified, backs through the partition and into the hot dog universe.This is our first callback to that universe since the laundromat scene. Evelyn puts her hands up to her eyes which have been blindfolded—and that's when we see the hot dog fingers. Then we're suddenly in the room with them looking at Evelyn. Her blindfold is off, resting around her neck, and she's looking around at a room that's been made to feel romantic with soft candles and wine on the table. It's obviously a home. Behind her we've got hot dog Deirdre watching her take it all in, hopeful, looking like she can barely contain herself.Evelyn's first words are "what do you want?" Deirdre says "I want you" and proceeds to do the little dance we saw in the hot dog version of Soldier and Queen. Evelyn puts up a finger and says "no, stop that," wagging her finger at Deirdre. Of course that makes her see her finger and she can't take how ridiculous this all is. She shakes her head almost like she's trying to shake herself out of this universe. Suddenly we cut to our Soldier and Queen and they're doing the dance with hot dog fingers flapping. This is intercut with hot dog Deirdre advancing as Evelyn backs away, still holding her finger out saying "nope, stay back, this is wrong, stop it." We've got Deirdre trying to say "but it's not wrong."This Episode All at OnceWe dive deep into the circle imagery and what it means that Evelyn leaves the circle where Gong Gong stands alone. This Opera universe is the only place we've seen Gong Gong in a circle, and it's also the only universe where he's a loving father. The idea is that Evelyn could stay here in this circle with her father who loves her—very tempting—but instead she chooses to leave that circle and go after Joy. But then we debate: who is actually piloting Opera Evelyn's body at that moment? Is it our Evelyn making an emergency exit to save the world, or is Opera Evelyn herself a diva who treats her Gong Gong poorly and brushes him off? The same action could read as rejection or heroism depending on who's in control.We go on a fascinating tangent about pet care sociology and how forced proximity changes relationships. Back in the 80s, dogs were never allowed inside—now we have a billion-dollar pet industry with people calling their pets "children." Being around them 24 hours a day changed how we think about them. This parallels the idea that maybe Opera Gong Gong was forced to care intimately for his disabled daughter after her accident, and that forced proximity made him grow closer to her and become the loving father he is now—versus our universe where Evelyn resents having to care for her disabled father.We get an EXTENSIVE Randy Newman deep dive covering his entire career. We talk about how revolutionary it was in Toy Story that the characters weren't singing their own songs (contrast with Disney Renaissance Broadway-style numbers). We learn about the Newman family dynasty: his uncle Alfred Newman composed the Fox studio theme song, his cousin Thomas Newman scored Finding Nemo and Shawshank Redemption. We cover Randy's pop hits like "I Love L.A." (Dodgers stadium song) and "Short People" (parody song about racism that completely fooled Lester). We go through "Political Science" (satirical 1972 song about dropping nuclear bombs—"Let's drop the big one, there'll be no one left to blame us"). We discuss how Pixar eventually had to wean themselves off Randy Newman because they feared becoming a parody of themselves, doing the same movie over and over. We cover the Family Guy Randy Newman parody ("Fat man with his kids and dog"). We learn that Rackakoonie is voiced by Randy Newman but he's not credited in the film, and that he didn't score Ratatouille because Pixar had already moved on from relying on him. The lyrics to the Rackakoonie song ("we're a family, culinarily") were written by Son Lux, probably with Daniels consultation, and they're the perfect parody of what Randy Newman does while also being exactly what Randy Newman does.We talk about the raccoon puppet itself—it's made from a taxidermied real raccoon (not animatronic, not Jim Henson style), which is why it looks so real but moves in that herky-jerky puppet way. The obviously fake puppet makes the whole thing way funnier, just like Debbie the Dog Mom's obviously fake dog Tawny. We learn that the Rackakoonie puppet sold at the A24 auction for $90,000—the most expensive prop from the film, even more than the Winnebago. It went to benefit the Asian Mental Health Project.We discuss sound design and "snickersnack"—the term for that metal-on-metal sound effect when metal moves through air (like swords being drawn or the teppanyaki spatula being brandished), even though it wouldn't actually make that sound in real life. We talk about how this appears everywhere: guns being picked up going "ch-ch-ch," bats going "whoosh" when swung at zombies.Then we have a serious, extended conversation about the hot dog Deirdre/Evelyn scene and whether it constitutes assault. We examine the history of this trope in comedy—Pepe Le Pew sexually assaulting the cat, Peg Leg Pete chasing Minnie, Revenge of the Nerds (where the hero literally rapes someone through deception). We discuss how comedy has been filled with this for decades and we're only now recognizing how problematic it is. We talk about how the scene could be read as mistaken identity (Evelyn accidentally doing the mating dance), or as Deirdre not recognizing that her wife is saying no, or as the movie using the absurdity of hot dog fingers to make us overlook what's actually happening. We discuss how younger listeners might not understand that we grew up genuinely not thinking this was wrong, and how scary it is that current manosphere/alpha bro culture is erasing progressive work that's been done. We explore whether hot dog Evelyn and Deirdre's relationship was already on the rocks before our Evelyn showed up—Deirdre's romantic surprise could be a Hail Mary attempt to fix a rift between them, to rekindle why they fell in love. We debate whether Deirdre saying "it...
In minute 86 of Everything Everywhere All at Once, Jobu finishes singing "somewhere out there in all that noise." Waymond shakes Evelyn calling for help as the camera pulls up and away. Title card: "THE END." It fades. Next card: "written and directed by Daniels." Then "produced by Alexander Wong, Evelyn Quan." Cards retreat—no, WE'RE retreating from a movie screen. We see the theater audience. Two more cards: "Starring" then "Evelyn Quan." Cut to Wong Kar Wai Evelyn waking in her seat—she IS Evelyn Kwan (her maiden name, unmarried to Waymond here). She checks herself, can't believe she's alive. Everyone claps. Foxy Waymond puzzled, stops early: "interesting ending, but very sad." Evelyn bolts up: "where is she?" Shakes Waymond: "where's our daughter?" Before he answers she runs Cinderella-style up aisle to exit. Waymond stands: "daughter?" Evelyn pushes through doors—now Pizza Evelyn stumbling into street, car coming at her (license plate 2SAM564—common prop plate). Cut to Opera Evelyn falling onstage. Microphone-feedback sound (but more musical, unnameable). All the Evelyns are experiencing something. --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Jobu appears slow-clapping villain-style saying "how impressive" in fluent Mandarin (unlike Joy's broken Chinese). New punk magical-girl outfit: ghost buns, goth makeup, candy hearts, fluffy black leather, spiked collar, giant laser gun as cane. Evelyn declares "I'm reaching my full potential" in terrible boxing stance (fingers wrong, totally disconnected from kung fu). Screen cracks showing distressed Evelyns (Pizza, Opera, Cleaning Lady, Teppanyaki, Wong Kar Wai). Machinery strains, music stops, Evelyn vomits. Collapses. Jobu moves in: "damn it...so close." Overhead death-confirmation shot. Jobu closes her eyes, tells Waymond "I'll see you again soon," sings "somewhere out there" Judy Garland-style. Verse-map turned red.We debate applause semiotics via Wikipedia—slow clap as sarcastic disapproval, golf clap heckling, German knuckle-rapping, airline landing applause. Aliens would find hand-striking baffling. Slow clap implies emotions are "for show"—Jobu watching melodrama.Stephanie Hsu's costumes don't dictate personality (script wanted Harley Quinn energy but Hsu plays serious/parental). Jobu chooses cutesy vs. serious regardless of outfit—millennial video game logic where skins don't determine playstyle. Evelyn's vomiting simultaneously funny (Family Guy wide-shot realness) and tragic (actual hero death). Most honest power-reaction ever—why don't Luke, Spider-Man, Iron Man puke using new abilities? Special Edition Obi-Wan should vomit when Alderaan explodes.Jobu's wistful energy (not matching Waymond's panic) suggests Evelyn escaped rather than died. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Evelyn smiles at Alpha Waymond but he starts coughing, falling into her arms. Cut to Alpha Winnebago wreckage—Audrey and Peter dead holding hands. Alpha Waymond clutches Evelyn's urn as light floods in. Jobu appears in amoeba outfit (green tiger-striped spikes, feathery puffballs, bug-eye goggles). Single androgynous voice announces her arrival like reversed lullaby. She staggers-swaggers forward. Jobu bends, electronics flicker, she boops his nose with middle knuckle (priest blessing/fairy godmother gesture)—killing him. Voices carry Waymond away. He tries kissing Evelyn (ambiguous whether successful), eyes roll back, falls. Evelyn realizes he's dead. Our Waymond wakes asking about Raccoon Waymond. Evelyn shows no relief—mourning Alpha Waymond. "Alpha Waymond is dead."The middle-knuckle boop feels like toddler Joy pressing daddy's nose or religious blessing—callbacks to unseen history. Stephanie Hsu plays it completely serious (no cartoon delight), understanding she's orphaning herself. We debate Alpha Waymond's "chance" speech inspired by Ann Druyan/Carl Sagan—chance implies free will vs. fate's predetermined path. Statistical miracle of existence (Big Bang through mate selection via genetic scent diversity) makes randomness feel miraculous. Evelyn confronts Waymond's mortality for first time—she's lived denying death, contradicting Taoist impermanence acceptance. May push her toward Jobu's nihilism.Script had Joy witnessing death—wisely cut. 2017 version resurrected Alpha Winona briefly—also cut for finality. Kiss ambiguity (Schrodinger's kiss) lets both interpretations exist simultaneously. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
SWAT guy attacks, Evelyn deflects and pinky-punches him skyward with the Super Smash Brothers KO sound. He crashes back as Evelyn adds a ground-slam finisher. We dolly out revealing destroyed atrium carnage—flickering emergency lights mimicking fires, dust settling everywhere. Waymond catches collapsing Evelyn as she mutters "it's gonna be so hard to explain this." He removes his glasses—Alpha Waymond!—he's been watching her. Evelyn laughs genuinely proud: "Did you see how good I am?" declaring she'll defeat Jobu. Alpha Waymond warns her stupid plan pissed off the multiverse, then: "and it just might work."We debate the Smash Bros sound—immersion-breaking or perfect? It works because it's appropriately ridiculous without announcing itself, embedded in gamer subconscious. We explore rare genuine smiles in cinema (Professor Francisco Menendez's rom-com structure: save unguarded joy for right before tragedy or film's end), notice the romance-novel-cover two-shot aesthetic, and catch Evelyn's deflection when praised—she can't acknowledge being good at anything.Script had Joy running up with Waymond but production wisely cut her for later story logic. The dolly-out feels like a scene break (commercial return aesthetic) despite being fight's end. Ke Huy Quan's "it just might work" channels 80s Goonies plucky-kid energy—his default state without glasses on. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Evelyn watches herself get chair-slammed by Gong Gong on screen while simultaneously experiencing it in the IRS. Gong Gong pulls a grenade pin saying "I'm sorry, Evelyn, we'll die together" with real emotion. Her headset warns "mind fracturing" as a fly lands nearby—she snorts it instantly without hesitation. Wong Kar Wai kung fu master teaches "even this pinky can be kung fu" as seasons pass deliberately out of order. Evelyn's muscular pinky (practical effect with air bladder) snaps chair legs, launching Gong Gong backward yelling "Pinky!" The grenade explodes, Alpha team surrounds her, and Evelyn demolishes the Edgelord and Jogger with pinky strikes.The fly-snorting replaced a script version where Evelyn caresses Gong Gong's leg—visually ambiguous and emotionally premature. The Daniels chose absurd comedy over early reconciliation, saving their relationship arc for the ending. We also catch the seasons training montage running deliberately wrong (summer-autumn-spring-winter-summer), implying years rather than one cycle. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Evelyn bounces through universes—Wong Kar Wai theater, pizza universe (holding the Beefy 2X special sign!), tax office with receipts mysteriously appearing around her. The Le brothers unite with (not quite) matching butt plug trophies in synchronized menacing poses. Evelyn takes a crane stance, they attack in flight formation, and she spins like a windmill yanking both awards free mid-air. Brian crashes ass-first into a ladder (pixelated), Andy gets ceiling debris dumped on him. Evelyn drops the trophies in disgust as Gong Gong charges with an office chair.We discover the bombshell: Evelyn's Alpha universe death date is November 8, 2016—Trump's election day! This confirms our longstanding theory about millennials embracing multiverse stories after feeling stuck in the wrong timeline. The Daniels encoded this into the props themselves, validating every political tangent we've taken. It's profound and painful and perfect.Beyond election date revelations, we decode "Pokai Michiko" (Cantonese for roughly "broke-ass loser Michiko"), notice Evelyn's green headset light signaling her breaking clay pot, and catch her unconsciously pulling receipts between universes—her first Jobu-like reality manipulation. The perpendicular camera angle creates a Street Fighter aesthetic, and the choir now heralds Evelyn's ascension. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Brian Le leaps spread-eagle onto James Wyatt's Auditor of the Month Award with an epic cinematic boom, his dignity preserved only by pixelation. This allows him to perform Shaolin chi-gathering moves—pointer finger pushing through invisible resistance—before they fight. Evelyn grounds herself with a foot-hop and palm-strikes Brian into an accordion fall. The minute ends with her flying through plastic tarps after a kick sends her briefly into the Wong Kar Wai theater universe where she spills the manager's popcorn.We extensively debate the pixelation—does censoring Brian's anatomy make it funnier than coy camera tricks? The pixelation paradoxically feels more real by acknowledging what's there instead of pretending it doesn't exist. We cite Roger Ebert's L-shaped bedsheet critique and debate whether Brian wore prosthetics, spiraling into Amanda Seyfried's Testament of Anne Lee prosthetic butthole story that may or may not have been necessary.Beyond pixelation philosophy, we deep-dive Shaolin chi-gathering techniques supported by Western kinesiology research, explore how Brian suddenly becomes terrifying despite earlier comedy relief status, discuss construction-site backdrops as "steam and spark factory" action staging, and catch Joy's face between shock and laughter when Waymond admires mom's fighting. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
Evelyn and Andy Le lose their powers and immediately start slapping each other like kids yelling "stop it, you stop it!" Joy figures out what happened while Waymond lags behind asking "what happened?" Andy requests a new jumping pad from Alpha Gong Gong, then unzips his pants cowboy-duel-style, revealing tighty-whities as he eyes the Auditor of the Month Award. The funniest beat? Evelyn stops mid-fight to shout an incredulous "WHAT?!" when Joy suggests blowing on Andy's nose to make him scream involuntarily.We debate whether Chad and Andy Lee were originally the same character, then spend quality time discussing test audiences. We realize the ADR clarity lines we initially mocked probably help everyone understand the movie, including us. The Daniels balance humor with exposition—Joy and Waymond narrate in simpler terms, making us feel smart while actually keeping everyone on the same page.Beyond test audience philosophy, we explore Chekhov's butt plug theory (if you introduce a trophy in act one, someone must sit on it by act three), debate Mrs. Doubtfire's problematic ending, and notice practical details like broken keyboards still littering the floor. Michelle Yeoh's "WHAT?!" delivery captures both Mom Evelyn's disbelief and an action star genuinely confused by bizarre fight choreography. Show archive Banana for Scale Facebook Group Connect with Kynan on Instagram or Letterboxd Connect with Lester on Facebook , Instagram , or X --- Learn more about supporting this podcast by becoming a member. It's just $5/month or $55/year. Visit our website to learn more. Check out the other podcasts in the Banana for Scale family of podcasts: The Devil's Details: The Evolution of the Devil Through Art & Literature The Exorcist Minute
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