Two Personal with Joy Taylor

It's been quite the week, so we're pouring the rosé and getting into it. On this episode of Two Personal, Joy and Hayley break down Sydney Sweeney's latest ad controversy, the AI regulation panic from tech's biggest names, Aaron Rodgers' wild podcast confessions about his exes, Jasmine Crockett honoring Chris Brown in Congress, Macklemore's Free Palestine stand on the Ed Sheeran tour, and their most unbearable icks. Plus — a brand new segment: Would You Rather. 00:39 Intro + Rosé 01:15 Weekend Recap 02:07 Sydney Sweeney's Betting Ad Controversy 08:24 AI Regulation & the "Overlords" 16:03 Aaron Rodgers Airs Out Shailene Woodley & Danica Patrick 31:48 Jasmine Crockett Honors Chris Brown in Congress 39:01 Macklemore, Ed Sheeran & Free Palestine 53:39 Never Two Personal: Icks 1:03:18 NEW SEGMENT: Would You Rather 1:05:56 Wrap Up See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Emmy-winning director, executive producer and showrunner Trishtan Williams joins Joy Taylor on Two Personal! From directing Life in the W and Starting Five to producing America's Next Top Model, The Amazing Race, and Love Is Blind, Trish has run point on some of the biggest sets in TV. She opens up about earning the trust of A-list athletes, her directing philosophy, raising her son while running major shows, and why vulnerability on camera is more important than people know. 0:00 Intro & meet Trishtan Williams 1:57 Welcome to Two Personal 2:09 Why Trish almost became a doctor instead 4:25 How she got into production in 2005 6:03 Advice for young women breaking into the industry 8:03 Her first big shows: ANTM & The Amazing Race 9:34 Her directorial style: "I lead with honey" 10:33 Dealing with people who take advantage of kindness 13:23 Has the industry overcorrected on sensitivity? 14:11 How she earns trust with A-list athletes 16:02 "I'm the queen of talent" 18:59 Crew acting like fans: "You're not talent" 20:43 Why reading the room (and customer service) matters 23:14 There's no secret to success 24:46 Inside Joy's 2 years on Undisputed with Skip & Shannon 26:46 The sacrifice she refused to make as a mom 29:11 Turning 40 and becoming an empty nester 30:01 Life in the W and the CBA storyline nobody could script 32:16 Why storytelling turns athletes into cultural icons 34:50 Directing A'ja Wilson through a real vulnerable moment 37:16 The conversation she has with talent before filming 38:36 Every story needs a villain — sometimes it's the weather 39:14 "I don't need to create drama, life is drama" 40:44 Real anxiety after filming: the Caitlin Clark/Fever tension 43:22 Why athletes are the new celebrities 43:52 Vulnerability isn't rewarded — and that's the problem 45:38 Why it's harder to talk about yourself than someone else 46:17 We'd never say online insults to someone's face 47:42 Your environment shapes how you think 51:07 What's next 52:57 Birthday plans & where to follow Trish See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin sits down with Joy Taylor for an episode that goes way past football. Michael opens up about the time federal agents showed up at his own training camp because a scammer was using his identity to con women, a story he's kept quiet until now. From there, the two get into the "divine order," turning 40 without kids, why he calls his dogs better roommates than people, the spiritual mentorship of Bishop T.D. Jakes, his emotional exit from the NFL, and a full-throated defense of Jerry Jones' legacy. Michael also reflects on Jimmy Johnson, the current state of NIL, and why he refuses to let anyone else's opinion override his own experience. Chapters: 00:00 – Open 00:37 – Welcome Michael Irvin to Two Personal 01:28 – The Catfish Scandal: "Love Story" Scammer 02:09 – Michael's Own FBI Scare in His 2nd NFL Season 09:23 – "These Women Are Not Victims" — The Debate 14:16 – Common Sense vs. Hope: Locks on the Door Analogy 17:30 – "Why Don't We See White Folks Do This?" 20:36 – His Motto: Every Dime & Every Minute Out of This Body 22:44 – Turning 40, No Kids, and No Regrets 25:40 – Pups Over Peeps 26:00 – Taking Care of Everybody Since Age 17 28:16 – Trophies on the Table Before God 31:25 – Paradise Camp & Giving Back 32:39 – Bishop T.D. Jakes: His Spiritual Father 33:41 – The Identity Shock of Retiring From the NFL 36:33 – Why Football Teaches You Can't Win Alone 38:02 – Fight or Flight: The Nervous System Talk 39:36 – "Are We Too Hard on Jerry Jones?" 41:01 – Legacy Talk: Comparing Jerry to Dolly Parton 42:47 – Stephen A. Smith Friendship & Cancel Culture 54:24 – The Russell Crowe / Australia Story 56:01 – Jerry Jones' Facility Vision & Player Salaries 58:53 – Will There Ever Be Another Jimmy Johnson? 1:05:12 – Social Media, Quick Fame & NIL in College Football 1:08:01 – Closing Thoughts & Goodbyes See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

She doesn't fly. She drives — thousands of miles, every season, to watch her son play football. This week Joy sits down with Linda Fletcher, mother of University of Miami running back Mark Fletcher Jr., for a conversation that starts with road trip stories and a brand new RV (decked out with a painted tribute to Mark's late father) and turns into one of the most honest conversations about grief, family, and showing up. Linda opens up about losing her husband, how it nearly changed her son's future in football, and how the entire University of Miami program; from teammates to the president of the school, showed up for her family when it mattered most. Plus: the "Mama Canes," meeting Michael Irvin, and why Linda believes family isn't about blood, it's about who shows up. 00:00 – Open: "She's driving all over the country" 00:32 – Welcome & introducing Linda Fletcher 01:32 – Joy's own team-mom road trip stories (and the "kidnapper van") 03:42 – "Fetching Fletcher's": the new RV road-trip series 04:40 – The RV reveal & Big Mark's tribute on the door 07:01 – Life on the road: RV parks, amenities, and cost 09:03 – Flying vs. driving: two very different travelers 10:58 – Strangers, hugs, and the "porcupine" theory 13:02 – Every game since Little League: why Mark always finds Mom 16:59 – Losing "Big Mark" and stepping up in his absence 19:42 – How the Canes showed up: five buses at the funeral 21:34 – Legacy, loyalty, and NIL in college football 23:00 – Meeting Michael Irvin & the "Mama Canes" family 26:46 – Outro: follow Fetching Fletcher's See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

AD (@itsAD) sits down with Joy for a wide-open conversation covering his path from the streets to rap to podcasting to building his own streaming lane and everything that's come with it. He talks candidly about fatherhood, including moving his daughter in full-time for high school and raising his nonverbal, autistic son Astro, plus how he's learned to tune out a famously toxic fanbase. Joy and AD also get into the viral "pay my bills" debate, the Daejon Love catfishing scandal, the WNBA dildo incident, and what it actually takes to build (and keep) an audience online. 00:00 — Open 00:20 — Welcome AD 01:09 — From the Streets to Streaming: AD's Intro 01:40 — Dealing With "Sell Out" Accusations 02:50 — Shoutout to His Son Astro & Raising a Nonverbal Kid 03:44 — The Truth About IRL Streaming 06:11 — The Viral "Pay My Bills" Take 08:57 — Why Joy Will Never Be Financially Dependent on a Man 11:00 — What Real Partnership Looks Like 12:50 — Why It's "Hard to Keep a Man" (Debate) 16:00 — The WNBA Dildo Incident 18:16 — Breaking Down the Daejon Love Scam 23:00 — Moving His Daughter In & Everyday Dad Life 28:14 — Raising Astro: Keeping It Real Without Oversharing 30:00 — Hard Work vs. Internet Shortcuts 38:44 — From Gang Culture to Podcasting: Breaking Barriers 44:00 — Building a Loyal (Toxic) Community 48:50 — Body Standards, BBLs & Self-Acceptance 49:31 — New Commercial & His Health Glow-Up 52:23 — "If You Ran the World" — The Pit Bit 58:14 — Where to Find AD 59:00 — Learning to Handle Hate: Joy's Radio Roots See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joy and Hayley are back and Joy is NOT done addressing the $5,000/month debate that went viral last week. She breaks down exactly why "I'm not the average woman" isn't the flex y'all think it is, then the girls dig into the wildest scam story of the year: the man who posed as an NFL player, scammed 26+ women out of $1.3 million, and got caught because he wore his fake team helmet to the beach. Plus: Hayley's turned-up birthday week, and a "Never Two Personal" listener story about a husband, a secret sugar mama, and a wedding. 00:00 Open 00:25 Welcome to Two Personal 00:34 We Went a Little Viral Last Week 00:44 The $5K/Month Debate, Round Two 13:19 Beauty Tax: What Men Don't See 16:44 The NFL Scammer Story: Mr. Daejon Labrayae Love 31:17 Hayley's Birthday Week: Turned Up 36:31 Never Two Personal: The Sugar Mama Ex-Husband 42:30 Outro See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joy and Hayley break down the WNBA dildo-throwing saga, debate whether $5,000 a month is enough to stay home and not work, get into why Joy "hates a bitch a$$ man," and answer this week's Never Two Personal question: "Should your partner be your best friend?" 0:00 – Open 0:37 – Welcome to Two Personal 1:14 – Dildo-Gate: Angel Reese Catches the Culprit 4:07 – "Protecting Women"? The Trans Panic Hypocrisy 7:14 – If Joy Was In Charge: The Death Pit 10:39 – The $5K Stay-at-Home Debate 20:01 – "I Hate a Bitch A$$ Man" 25:28 – Money, Gender Roles & the 50/50 Conversation 29:22 – The 23-Year-Old Cheesecake Factory Story 34:11 – Real Men vs. Bi**h A$$ Men: Consistency Talk 38:11 – Never Two Personal: Should Your Partner Be Your Best Friend? 47:31 – Outro See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on Two Personal, Joy sits down with entrepreneur and I Best Wines founder Ingrid Best — 20+ years in wine and spirits (Diageo, Hennessy, LVMH) before launching her own award-winning brand out of South Africa. They talk building a company from scratch, the myth of the "graceful" black woman founder, $0.53-in-the-bank days, and the sisterhood that's carried her through it. Pull up, grab a glass and get Two Personal. 00:00 – Welcome + Ingrid Best intro 00:00:57 – Why wine, why now: from Craigslist ad to Diageo to Hennessy 00:04:15 – Choosing South Africa & building I Best Wines 00:08:24 – "Best" is her real name — family & legacy 00:08:52 – The state of the alcohol industry, moderation & ritual 00:12:51 – Non-drinkers, mocktails & responsible drinking 00:14:44 – What entrepreneurship actually costs 00:22:09 – Being a black woman founder: "you do it so gracefully" 00:26:54 – The Costco moment / building demand 00:30:09 – Asking for help vs. the "graceful" myth 00:42:41 – Sisterhood, grief, and "icon season" 00:46:24 – Learning to ask for help / silencing the ego 00:49:58 – Where to find I Best Wines (Costco, Total Wine, Hollywood Bowl, LAX) + close See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Gia Peppers — NAACP Image Award-nominated journalist, host and founder of Creatives of Faith, joins Joy for a wide-ranging two personal. They open with "bonnet-gate" and what it says about respectability politics, dig into how broken into media looks nothing like it used to, get real about the year since the 2024 election, and close out talking through Gia's new community, Creatives of Faith. 0:00 Intro: Gia Peppers joins Joy 1:40 Bonnet-Gate: the debate everyone's having9:01Should streaming be a college degree? 10:03 Breaking into media in 2026 — advice for mentees 17:23 "Everybody's a journalist now" — and why that's a problem 21:28 No gatekeepers, no process: what we lost 26:28 Divest your attention — the Jimmy Kimmel boycott blueprint 29:52 The 2024 election hangover, one year later 36:03 Kamala's "shattered ceiling" line that reframed Gia's year 41:26 Mamdani, class, and what good politics could look like 47:51Rapid fire: Avengers jokes & picking your battles 50:16 Black Panther casting discourse (and why it's a distraction) 56:54 DVD players, streaming fatigue & the distraction economy 59:11 Rebuilding community in an isolated world 1:00:53 Climate change needs better marketing 1:03:19 Creatives of Faith: three months in 1:06:11 "The platforms already exist" — owning your work 1:09:05 Outro See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joy gets into "financial submissives" — men who get off paying women online with zero physical contact and then digs into Gen Z women "parenting" their boyfriends (and getting called Mommy for it), and a $3,500 boot camp teaching grown men how to approach women and handle rejection. This week's Never Two Personal: the hill you'll die on, no matter what. 00:00 Intro 00:15 Financial Submissives: Inside the World of "Fin Doms" 06:06 Call Her Mommy: Gen Z Women Are Parenting Their Boyfriends 11:04 The $3,500 Bootcamp Teaching Men How To Talk To Women 22:51 Never Two Personal: The Hills We'll Die On 28:06 Outro See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Country artist Bryan Andrews with 4 million TikTok followers, a Billboard-charting single, and a brand-new mixtape; joins Joy for one of the most unfiltered conversations Two Personal has had. They get into the grift of performative conservatism in country music, what it's like being the "Town Democrat" back home, why small-town white men need to be the messengers for change in their own communities, Christian nationalism, patriarchy, and what real masculinity actually looks like. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro & welcome 02:03 – Country music's "conservative" problem 04:00 – The grift: exposing fake conservative country stars 08:37 – Bryan's political upbringing 09:55 – Releasing "The Older I Get" 12:01 – Small towns, inner cities, and the roots of the divide 13:18 – "Cosplay hillbilly" backlash 15:08 – Blame, scapegoating, and anti-politician fandom 19:00 – Being the right messenger 23:21 – Christianity and hypocrisy 27:03 – Are we a Christian nation? 32:07 – Midterms and political commentary 39:29 – Corporate taxes and small-town economics 44:05 – "Yee Haw, Fuck the Law" & country's Black roots 48:14 – What "alpha male" really means 49:33 – Patriarchy and submission culture 53:29 – New relationship, being a "sim" 1:00:00 – Men's mental health and suppressed emotions 1:06:20 – The James Baldwin quote he lives by 1:08:26 – Tour, charity, and goodbye See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joy is back from a crazy travel week. She reacts to Marvel's Comic-Con announcement that David Jonsson will play the next Black Panther, and what it says about Ryan Coogler following his instincts.Then she breaks down the viral story of Haleemah, whose husband handed his work gift basket to a coworker instead of bringing it home to her, and why Joy thinks this was never really about the makeup. She also weighs in on Tuskegee University's new ban on bonnets as part of a stricter dress code, and wraps with a personal Never Two Personal moment from her radio days. 00:00 – Intro 01:09 – Black Panther casting 05:08 – The gift basket story 13:33 – Tuskegee dress code 23:52 – Never Two Personal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joy sits down with creator Lavelle for a candid conversation about the real work behind hitting 1 million TikTok followers, why he's kept his relationship private, and his next chapter chasing scripted TV. They also get into taking rejection personally in the industry, self-care as a full-time creator, and the viral imitation crab video that changed everything (9 million views, no regrets). 0:00 — Welcome, Lavelle joins Too Personal 0:48 — The Barry University Kiki (fellow alumni bond) 3:46 — Hitting 1 million TikTok followers 6:04 — "Who doesn't work?" — dispelling the creator-labor myth 13:31 — Community vs. a viral moment 21:23 — What's next? Finding the "blurry" next chapter 22:49 — Taking rejection personally in the industry 28:29 — Talking "Big Guy" — protecting the relationship 36:44 — What grounds him off-camera 39:12 — Solo dinners, self-talk, and needing silence 43:49 — The acting dream and scripted TV goals 47:34 — Advice for creators building a community from scratch 52:20 — The imitation crab saga (9M views) 55:01 — Defending home cooks from comment culture 59:45 — Follow Lavelle + sign-off See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Two Personal hits the road! Joy unpacks the Tate brothers' arrest and what accountability should look like for public figures, then tackles The Odyssey casting backlash and the racism fueling it. From there, a real gym-routine reset and this week's Never Two Personal: a listener wants separate accounts, their spouse wants everything combined; who's right? 00:00 Welcome to On The Road Edition 00:59 Tate Brothers Arrested: Does Fame Change Accountability? 09:04 The Odyssey Casting Backlash & Reading Comprehension 18:06 Gym Routine Reset (ft. Aden's Hair Critique) 23:57 Never Two Personal: Joint vs. Separate Bank Accounts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Grammy-winning producer and songwriter Khris Riddick-Tynes sits down with Joy for an unfiltered conversation on building trust with artists, the difference between viral moments and real careers, his own therapy journey, and why women make the best artists in the room. 00:00 – Intro 02:06 – The vision behind an album 19:20 – Music needs a Bob Marley right now 24:03 – The ayahuasca reveal 33:40 – Hearing his song sung back at the Forum 41:17 – Viral isn't sustainable 49:52 – Why men need therapy too 56:07 – The double standard for women in music See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Joy and Hayley discuss America's growing literacy crisis, why critical thinking is disappearing, whether speaking publicly about important issues actually creates change, burnout from always showing up for everyone else, and the difference between wanting community versus committing to it. They wrap up with a hilarious Never Two Personal about girls trips, guys trips, and relationship double standards. 00:00 – Intro 00:19 – America's literacy crisis: the stats 02:15 – Growing up with strict reading rules 04:47 – "A stupid population is easier to control" 06:37 – The history of literacy as a control tactic 08:56 – Has Joy's relationship with speaking up changed? 11:52 – Is speaking out even making a difference? 16:04 – "Everyone's person, but not many are mine" 18:56 – Asking for help & letting go of shame 21:47 – Burnout: "My nervous system is shot" 22:33 – Never Two Personal: Girls trip vs. guys trip 28:23 – Outro See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Heather Sanders joins Joy Taylor for an honest conversation about growing up online, navigating a long-term relationship in public, postpartum depression, motherhood, business, and learning to choose yourself. Together they explore why people feel entitled to judge relationships, what partnership really means, and why personal growth often requires giving yourself grace. 00:00 – Welcome Heather Sanders to the show 00:38 – "That person is dead": growing up publicly 04:13 – The public relationship "clock" theory 08:02 – Engaged twice, still not married and here's why 11:40 – Building a partnership vs. needing a piece of paper 17:04 – "Keep that pussy inside": the streets aren't for everybody 20:03 – What she's learned about herself as a woman at 36 25:15 – Postpartum shame and the pressure on women 31:39 – Her therapy journey and finding the right fit 38:15 – Entrepreneur advice: consistency over everything 39:42 – Getting audited: "I don't even know where the money went" 43:44 – Why she stepped back from being an influencer 45:16 – Getting backlash for sharing the hard stuff 46:17 – The first time she cried on the internet 52:47 – Grieving old versions of herself 57:56 – "You have to choose that person every day" 1:00:59 – The stat about men leaving terminally ill partners 1:02:19 – Her favorite part of being married 1:05:20 – Throwback pictures and purple contacts 1:08:00 – Tattoo confessions: King Trelll, Terrell's face tattoo 1:06:36 – The contact lens story that scared everyone See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joy and Hayley are back from the 4th of July with stories to tell, starting with a campsite "Karen" who tried to police everyone's music and ending with a real conversation about identity and history. Along the way: is everyone over parenting in 2026? Cardi B gives Black Americans their flowers on CNN, and the girls give their honest take on the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce "American royal wedding." Plus, a Two Personal listener question sends Joy down memory lane to her wildest years. 00:00 Intro & Holiday Weekend Recap 02:01 The Campsite "Karen" Confrontation 08:23 Are 2026 Parents Doing Too Much? 14:29 Cardi B's CNN Interview & Reclaiming Black American History 19:05 The "American Royal Wedding": Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce 28:41 Never Two Personal: Your 20-Year-Old Self vs. Now See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melissa Fredericks, the woman behind Kev on Stage Studios, steps out solo for what may be her first-ever podcast appearance without her husband. Joy Taylor pulls back the curtain on who Melissa really is: a rule-follower navigating the lawless world of entrepreneurship, a mother of two Black boys, a woman interrogating her faith, and someone quietly trying to find her footing in a brand new chapter of life. From the Jeezy cancel attempt to vulnerability in marriage to what it actually takes to keep a 20-year relationship alive, this conversation goes deep. In this episode: (00:00) Intro | Melissa's First Solo Podcast Appearance (01:03) The Internet Tried to Cancel Them Over Jeezy (04:23) What Christianity Is Actually Supposed to Look Like (16:00) Raising Black Boys & The Weight They Carry (22:24) Empty Nesting, Kev Wants Her to Write a Movie & Finding Herself (29:00) 20 Years of Marriage: What This Chapter Looks Like Now (41:13) Feeling Unanchored After Motherhood (48:12) Vulnerability, The Dog Analogy & Saying Yes Twice (58:00) Making Real Friends in Hollywood is Hard (01:03:35) Waiting to Exhale Friendship & Writing a Rom Com (01:09:00) Where to Follow Melissa Subscribe and tune in for more episodes. New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday at 9AM PST. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joy flies solo this week with stories from her trip through France, a breakdown of what Cannes Lions is really like for creators and brands, BET Awards reactions, and her now-viral take on why men having female friends is a green flag. She closes with a Never Two Personal segment on the best moments of her life heading into 40. 00:00 France & Cannes recap 04:38 Cannes Lions strategy and imposter syndrome 13:00 BET Awards recap 18:52 White House BTS 19:56 Men with female friends debate 44:43 Never Two Personal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.