The Business of Dance

Interview Date: July 26th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato reconnects with Hollywood Summer Tour alum Angelica Valente, whose journey has taken her from competitive dancer in Thunder Bay, Ontario, to an LA-based director, producer, fashion designer, and creative entrepreneur. Angelica shares how an early trip to Los Angeles changed the trajectory of her life, eventually inspiring her to move to LA at 17 to study dance. While pursuing a professional dance career, her interests in fashion, film, editing, styling, and creative direction began opening doors she never originally imagined. Angelica opens up about navigating the entertainment industry as an international artist, from OPT and the O-1 visa process to developing the work ethic, resourcefulness, and relationships necessary to build a career in the United States. She shares how she co-founded Spaced Visuals, grew from working with emerging artists to major productions, and eventually launched her own fashion label, VALENTE. Today, her worlds of dance, film, fashion, and creative direction intersect through productions, campaigns, custom stagewear, and visual storytelling. Throughout the conversation and mentee Q&A, Angelica encourages dancers to remain open to where their careers can lead, take risks before they feel completely ready, and create opportunities rather than waiting for permission. Her journey is a powerful reminder that dance can be the foundation for countless careers beyond performing—and that the skills dancers develop can continue shaping their success in unexpected ways. Shownotes: 0:00 – Meet director and designer Angelica Valente 3:23 – Growing up dancing in Thunder Bay 5:15 – Discovering Los Angeles and dreaming bigger 8:06 – Expanding from dance into creative direction 9:28 – Film, editing, fashion spark new passions 11:36 – Navigating OPT and the O-1 visa 17:42 – Building Spaced Visuals from the ground up 19:26 – Launching VALENTE and learning fashion independently 21:19 – Designing custom stagewear for KATSEYE 24:33 – Recognizing how far you have come 26:32 – Taking risks before you feel ready 28:45 – How dance strengthens creative direction skills 33:14 – Q&A: Dreaming beyond what you can see 38:40 – Q&A: Create your own career opportunities 47:21 – Exploring careers beyond being the performer Biography: Angelica Valente is a director and fashion designer based in Los Angeles. She is the co-founder of Spaced Visuals, a multidisciplinary creative studio known for crafting cinematic campaigns, music videos, and visual identities for artists and global brands including Usher, Chris Brown, Megan Thee Stallion, Meghan Trainor, GIVĒON, Masego, PUMA, Coca-Cola, TikTok, 100 Thieves, and SoundCloud. Alongside her production work, Angelica is the founder and creative director of VALENTE, a luxury fashion label recognized for its sculptural silhouettes, cinematic storytelling, and handcrafted collections. Since launching in 2021, VALENTE has designed custom stagewear for KATSEYE, with pieces worn during major appearances including the GRAMMYs, as well as custom looks for Paris Hilton. Her designs have also been worn by Jordin Sparks, Tori Kelly on Good Morning America , Rhea Raj, WNBA champion Jackie Young, and Atsuko Okatsuka for the Emmy Awards. Whether directing a campaign, designing a collection, or shaping an artist’s creative era, Angelica brings together film, fashion, and brand strategy to create immersive visual identities that live seamlessly across multiple mediums. Her work is defined by bold creative direction, cinematic storytelling, and a relentless focus on crafting ideas that leave a lasting cultural impression. Connect on Social Media: Website: www.spacedvisuals.com www.valenteworld.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/angelicavalente_ www.instagram.com/spacedvisuals www.instagram.com/valenteworld_

Interview Date: August 2nd, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast , Menina Fortunato sits down with legendary B-boy, choreographer, creative producer, and three-time World Champion Ivan “Flipz” Velez for a conversation about building a career that lasts. Ivan shares his journey from discovering breaking and pursuing his passion in New York to becoming a professional dancer, touring internationally, working across major dance films, performing at the Olympics, and eventually expanding his career into choreography, casting, producing, stunt work, and motion capture. Beyond the credits, Ivan gets candid about the qualities that have sustained his career: professionalism, humility, kindness, preparation, persistence, and being willing to help others . He explains why being the most talented dancer in the room isn't enough and how reputation, relationships, representation, and consistently showing up prepared can create opportunities for decades. The conversation also explores agents, managers, publicists, personal branding, social media, and the importance of putting yourself and your work out into the world—even before you feel completely ready. Ivan reminds dancers that their individual talent deserves to be seen and that there is room for everyone to succeed. During the mentee Q&A, Ivan shares lessons from decades in breaking, including resilience, humility, navigating injuries, and continuing to evolve. His story is a powerful example of how dance can become the vehicle to an entire career in entertainment when artists refuse to limit themselves to a single title. Shownotes: 00:00 — Meet legendary B-boy Ivan “Flipz” Velez 08:31 — Chasing breaking’s roots all the way to NYC 09:25 — Betting on himself before booking Honey 24:40 — Reflecting on decades of unforgettable career milestones 26:43 — Why helping others can shape your career 30:20 — Professionalism becomes the secret to career longevity 31:02 — Staying humble when someone is always better 40:16 — How representation helped protect and elevate him 44:31 — Building the agent-manager-publicist dream team 48:56 — Understanding publicity as an investment in yourself 54:38 — Put yourself out there before you’re ready 1:13:00 — What breaking taught Ivan about life 1:14:43 — The physical sacrifices behind a breaking career 1:16:25 — Passion and persistence through major injuries 1:23:37 — Commit, execute, and never limit your possibilities Biography: Ivan “Flipz” Velez is a host, choreographer, creative producer, three-time World Champion, and renowned B-boy who began his career as a dancer and stunt performer. Throughout his career, Ivan has toured the world with top international music icons and acted and danced in major dance films spanning the past two decades. He is also the founder of the internationally recognized Skill Methodz Crew , one of the most elite and legendary B-boy crews in the world. Ivan continues to act in film and on stage while performing and creating across commercial projects. His infectious positive energy, endless creativity, and commitment to excellence have established him as more than an exceptional performer—he has become a trusted collaborator and creative force across entertainment. Having built his career around his unique style, inventiveness, and out-of-the-box thinking, Ivan has carried that same creativity behind the camera, expanding his work into choreography, casting, and producing. “See the INVISIBLE… can do the IMPOSSIBLE.” — Ivan “Flipz” Velez https://www.instagram.com/ivanflipzvelez?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=2i6wdlr5giti Website: https://www.ivan-flipz-velez.com/

Interview Date: July 19th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Brandon Henschel shares his journey from discovering dance at age 12 after being inspired by Michael Jackson to building a successful, decades-long career as a performer, choreographer, director, and educator. He reflects on breaking into the entertainment industry in the 1990s, landing one of his first major opportunities in a Michael Jackson music video, and commuting from San Diego to Los Angeles for auditions and professional jobs. Brandon shares behind-the-scenes stories from major projects, including touring with Britney Spears, appearing in the iconic Pepsi commercial, performing on Lip Sync Battle , and working alongside some of the entertainment industry’s most recognizable artists and creatives. He also explains why genuine relationships, professionalism, versatility, and a positive attitude are often more valuable than relying solely on auditions. The conversation also explores Brandon’s transition from performer to creative leader and his current work as the Resident Director of Awakening at Wynn Las Vegas. He discusses the responsibilities of managing a large-scale production, maintaining its artistic integrity, integrating new performers, and leading a diverse cast and creative team. Brandon concludes with valuable advice on accountability, leadership, musicality, audition preparation, partnering, and building a sustainable career in entertainment. Shownotes: 0:02 – Introduction and Brandon’s entertainment career overview 2:59 – Discovering dance through Michael Jackson at age 12 7:46 – Landing a Michael Jackson video as his first major job 10:00 – Viewing auditions as valuable networking opportunities 13:25 – Why relationships create long-term career opportunities 15:18 – Performing with Britney Spears and booking the Pepsi commercial 17:00 – Navigating massive auditions and intimidating private callbacks 22:17 – Commercial residuals and career-changing performance opportunities 24:00 – Filming From Justin to Kelly in Miami 29:50 – Inside the spectacular Las Vegas production Awakening 35:13 – Transitioning from professional performer to resident director 40:25 – Developing the leadership skills required to manage performers 46:39 – Why accountability is essential in every career 50:00 – Q&A: Audition advice for acrobatic dancers 53:05 – Q&A: Balancing school, training, and professional goals For over 30 years, Brandon Henschel has worked as a choreographer and director across film, television, live events, and theatre. His clients and collaborators include Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Tobey Maguire, Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, Britney Spears, and Beyoncé. Brandon currently serves as the Resident Director of Awakening , named Best Production Show in Las Vegas, at Wynn Resorts. He has held the position for three consecutive years, overseeing the performers and helping maintain the artistic integrity of the large-scale production. In addition to his professional work, Brandon has taught internationally for more than 20 years. He is passionate about developing the next generation of performers through foundational technique, musicality, professionalism, and a strong work ethic. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebrandonhenschel/

Interview Date: July 12th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Tanya Jane shares her journey from a young professional dancer in Australia to building a thriving career in Los Angeles—and ultimately transitioning into a seven-figure success energetics coaching business. After moving to LA at just 19, she navigated visas, broke into the industry without connections, and built a decade-long career performing on some of the world’s biggest stages alongside major artists. Tanya opens up about the realities of the dance industry, including rejection, audition pressure, and the mental resilience required to sustain long-term success. She shares practical advice on securing representation, standing out in auditions, and creating opportunities for yourself—emphasizing the importance of persistence, preparation, and taking bold action even when the path is uncertain. The conversation then shifts into her transition out of dance and into entrepreneurship, where she built a 7-figure coaching business rooted in mindset and “success energetics.” Tanya breaks down how shifting internal beliefs can transform external results, offering tools to help dancers overcome rejection, reframe setbacks, and step into aligned, expansive success. The episode closes with a Q&A, where she answers questions on moving cities, building confidence, and navigating fear in the entertainment industry. Show Notes 0:00 – Introduction and Tanya’s career overview 2:30 – Early dance training and professional start 6:05 – Moving to LA and visa challenges 7:18 – Booking contract and preparing financially 9:42 – First LA audition and getting signed 11:31 – O-1 visa process and requirements 14:41 – Securing sponsorship and staying in LA 17:10 – Taking risks and asking for opportunities 20:11 – Building credentials and industry positioning 25:51 – Favorite jobs and performance experiences 27:25 – Transition from dance to entrepreneurship 30:00 – Mindset shift and career transformation 34:41 – Four-step energy flip for rejection 44:07 – Q&A: moving to a new city mindset 53:27 – Q&A: fear, confidence, industry advice Biography: Tanya Jane is a former professional dancer turned success energetics mentor for high-achieving women ready to 10x their life, business, and income—without burnout. Originally from Sydney, Australia, she moved to Los Angeles at 19 to pursue her dream of becoming a professional dancer. She went on to build a decade-long career performing on some of the world’s biggest stages and television productions, working with artists including Cher, Nick Jonas, Bad Bunny, Will Smith, Marc Anthony, and Bebe Rexha. Today, Tanya is the founder of a 7-figure coaching business where she blends her experience of pursuing “unrealistic” dreams with scalable wealth strategies and aligned action. Through her work, she helps women break through limiting beliefs, elevate their mindset, and create extraordinary success—while fully living an extraordinary life. Connect on Social Media: Website: https://www.thetanyajane.com/so dInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thetanyajane/

Interview: July 5th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, German Morales—talent agent, manager, producer, and founder of MGMT Artists—shares an inside look into the entertainment industry and what it truly takes to build a sustainable career as a performer. With over 20 years of experience, German walks through his unconventional journey from aspiring actor to becoming a leading talent representative, highlighting how his background in business and passion for entertainment ultimately shaped his career path. German breaks down the day-to-day role of an agent, from reviewing casting breakdowns and submitting talent to negotiating contracts and developing artists long-term. He emphasizes the importance of strong branding, professional materials—especially headshots and reels—and the value of persistence when seeking representation. A key takeaway from this episode is the power of being a multi-hyphenate performer. Dancers who can also act, sing, or model significantly increase their opportunities and marketability in today’s industry. The conversation also explores the current audition landscape, where self-tapes dominate, along with practical advice on how to stand out, avoid common mistakes, and leverage tools like social media and AI. German also shares insights into iPOP, a global talent showcase that connects performers with industry professionals, and how opportunities like this can accelerate exposure and career growth. The episode concludes with a live Q&A, offering real-time guidance for dancers navigating representation, submissions, and long-term career strategy. Show Notes 0:00 – Introduction to German Morales and career 2:03 – From aspiring actor to talent agent 6:08 – Inside an agent’s daily responsibilities 7:49 – Types of talent and notable clients 11:31 – How to get signed by an agent 13:33 – What iPOP is and how it works 15:40 – Notable success stories from iPOP 17:10 – How to apply and audition for iPOP 20:06 – Importance of being a multi-hyphenate performer 21:42 – How to become a talent agent 28:00 – What makes a strong submission stand out 33:24 – Why dancers should learn acting 38:03 – When and how to submit to agencies 50:07 – Self-tapes vs in-person auditions today 53:00 – Closing Biography: German E. Morales is a talent agent, manager, producer, and founder of MGMT Artists. With more than 20 years of experience in the entertainment industry, he has helped launch and develop the careers of actors, models, singers, and performers who have appeared in major television shows, films, national commercials, and even Academy Award-nominated productions. He is also a managing partner of iPOP!, one of the world’s leading talent discovery events, connecting aspiring performers with top agents, managers, casting directors, and producers. A voting member of the Television Academy, German is passionate about helping the next generation of talent break into the entertainment industry and build lasting careers. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/german_mgmtartists_/ Website: https://mgmtartists.com/

Interview Date: June 28th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Tina Oleff, agent at MSA Talent Agency, shares her dynamic journey through the dance industry—from her early days as a competitive dancer in Ohio to building a multifaceted career across performance, production, broadcasting, and talent representation. She highlights how there is no single path to success, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, curiosity, and trusting your instincts when navigating a career in dance. Tina gives an inside look at what agents are truly searching for when signing dancers, breaking down the importance of professionalism, strong training, clear submissions, and authenticity. She explains that talent alone is not enough—dancers must also be reliable, coachable, and easy to work with. She also shares actionable insights on how dancers can get noticed today, whether through classes, conventions, or digital submissions. Throughout the episode, Tina answers questions from dancers, offering guidance on breaking into major markets, avoiding common submission mistakes, and building lasting industry relationships. Her message is clear: focus on becoming undeniable through consistency, character, and connection—because success in this industry is built on more than just talent. Shownotes: 0:00 – Introduction and Tina’s career journey overview 2:00 – Early training and starting teaching young 4:00 – Moving to NYC and industry immersion 6:20 – Injury leading to unexpected career pivot 8:00 – Transition into conventions and agency work 9:30 – Joining MSA and career breakthrough 11:20 – How dancers get signed today 12:00 – What makes a strong submission stand out 13:20 – Demo reels vs single clips explained 14:10 – Education pathways and industry exposure 17:30 – College training vs commercial dance reality 19:30 – Red flags agents notice immediately 21:00 – What agents look for beyond talent 22:00 – Importance of relationships and networking 28:30 – Reality of training after getting signed 41:00- Benefits of industry systems like ICDR 43:30 – Handling negativity and industry pushback 48:20 – Q&A: Maintaining relationships and networking authentically Biography: Tina Oleff, originally from Cleveland, Ohio, began her dance training at age six and grew up dancing competitively. She started teaching at just 16 years old before continuing her dance studies at Arizona State University. She later relocated to New York City, where she trained at Broadway Dance Center, Steps on Broadway, and Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater. During this time, she immersed herself in the dance community—assisting faculty, building meaningful industry relationships, and teaching extensively throughout the New York metropolitan area. Tina holds a bachelor’s degree in Communication Arts and Marketing from Marymount Manhattan College and brings a diverse professional background spanning dance, production, and broadcast. Her experience includes working with top dance conventions and competitions, serving as an assistant to a prominent on-air sports broadcaster at ESPN, and gaining early experience within a leading dance agency. This multifaceted background gives her a unique and well-rounded perspective on the entertainment industry. She is currently an agent within the Talent and Education Departments at MSA Agency, where she leads the Los Angeles MSA KATS Division and MSA Education. Tina uses her expertise and network to support young artists, connect educators and choreographers with meaningful opportunities, and guide industry professionals in achieving their goals. Driven by her passion for dance and mentorship, she believes every artist has the ability to dream boldly, grow with confidence, and build an extraordinary career both in and beyond the industry. Connect on Social Media:Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/teenie0/ MSA: https://www.instagram.com/msa_kats/ https://www.instagram.com/msa_education/ https://www.instagram.com/msaagency/

Interview Date: June 21st , 2026 Episode Summary: In this powerful and expansive conversation, Jeff Thacker—executive producer of So You Think You Can Dance —shares his journey from an untrained school dancer to one of the most influential figures in global dance entertainment. He walks through each stage of his career evolution—from performer to choreographer to producer—emphasizing that longevity in the industry comes from adaptability, curiosity, and the willingness to start over at the bottom of a new ladder. Jeff dives deep into the realities of the dance industry, challenging dancers to move beyond the idea of “dreams” and instead take ownership through action, discipline, and choice. He highlights the importance of being well-rounded, building strong technical foundations, and developing a distinct personal identity. Drawing from his experience casting over 60,000 dancers, he reinforces that success is not just about talent—it’s about being memorable, coachable, and aligned with opportunity. The episode also explores the legacy and impact of So You Think You Can Dance , the creation of the Dance Hall of Fame, and the importance of honoring dance history while creating future opportunities. Through candid Q&A with young dancers, Jeff offers practical advice on auditions, career transitions, and avoiding common mistakes. His core message is clear: dancers have the power to shape their own path—through consistency, resilience, and the choices they make every day. Shownotes: 0:00 – Jeff Thacker introduction and career highlights 3:30 – Early dance journey and late formal training 6:00 – Transition from dancer to choreographer 9:50 – Career evolution into production and TV 12:30 – Building So You Think You Can Dance 15:30 – Creating opportunities for dancers and choreographers 18:30 – Audition insights and casting perspective 21:30 – Dance as a lifelong evolving career 24:00 – Importance of versatility and technical foundation 27:30 – Advice for young dancers and training mindset 30:30 – Dance Hall of Fame mission and impact 34:30 – Industry legacy and honoring dance history 41:30 – Q&A: career transitions and biggest mistakes 51:30 – Navigating professional dance opportunities 58:30 – Future of So You Think You Can Dance and final advice Biography: Jeff Thacker is recognized as one of the foremost entertainment producers in both American and British television. With a career spanning dance, choreography, and production, he has worked with some of the biggest global names in the entertainment industry. He began his career as a dancer with the BBC’s renowned group The Dougie Squires Second Generation , performing on a weekly live television show that built his foundation in performance and production. Transitioning into choreography, Jeff created iconic work including Robert Palmer’s Addicted to Love , which became a global phenomenon. Over the years, Jeff has earned numerous prestigious awards, including a BAFTA, an Emmy, multiple nominations, and international television honors. His work spans major productions with artists such as Elton John, Celine Dion, Jennifer Lopez, Cher, and Diana Ross, among many others. In 2005, Jeff became a Senior Producer and original judge on So You Think You Can Dance , later serving as Executive Producer for 17 seasons. He played a pivotal role in shaping the show’s global success, contributing to its 70+ Emmy nominations and international adaptations across more than 30 countries. Beyond television, Jeff has produced major events including the BAFTA Awards, Royal Variety Performances, and American Idol specials. Most recently, he served as Executive Producer and Showrunner for the Dance Hall of Fame , continuing his mission to elevate and honor the legacy of dance worldwide. Connect on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/jeffthacker

Interview Date: October 20th, 2025Episode Summary:This special red carpet episode of The Business of Dance Podcast takes you inside the Gala of the Stars at the Beverly Hilton, a powerful evening supporting Dancers Against Cancer. Host Menina Fortunato interviews some of the most influential names in dance and entertainment, capturing real-time insights, career advice, and heartfelt moments from industry legends, rising stars, and changemakers.Throughout the episode, guests like Debbie Gibson, Abby Lee Miller, Robbie Blue, Allison Holker, and Vincent Paterson share what it truly takes to build a sustainable career in the dance industry. From mastering your craft and showing up prepared, to understanding your value, building relationships, and thinking long-term, a common theme emerges: success in dance is as much about professionalism, mindset, and business awareness as it is about talent.Beyond career insights, the episode highlights the deep sense of community within the dance world—celebrating mentorship, friendship, philanthropy, and resilience. With emotional stories, legacy reflections, and powerful advice, this episode serves as both inspiration and a reminder that dance is not just an art form, but a vehicle for impact, connection, and purpose.Show Notes 0:00 – Red carpet kickoff at Gala of the Stars2:30 – Debbie Gibson on longevity and performer value5:45 – Advice: be early, prepared, and unique9:10 – JoJo Siwa on impact and fundraising excitement12:00 – Abby Lee Miller on professionalism and presentation16:45 – Robbie Blue on Tate McRae VMA concept20:30 – What choreographers look for in dancers25:15 – Allison Holker on vision, goals, and longevity30:40 – Julie McDonald on treating dance as a business35:20 – Vincent Paterson on podcast inspiration story40:10 – Sabrina Bryan on career longevity and adaptability45:55 – Autumn Miller & Sophia Lucia on growth and goals52:30 – Industry leaders on philanthropy and impact57:40 – Business advice: training, finances, and branding1:02:45 – Closing reflections on community and purposeConnect on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/industrydanceawards/ https://www.facebook.com/IndustryDanceAwards/ https://www.instagram.com/imadanceragainstcancer/ https://www.facebook.com/iadacfoundation/ Website http://industrydanceawards.com/ http://imadanceragainstcancer.org/ Connect with GuestsDebbie Gibson - https://www.instagram.com/debbiegibson/ Jojo Siwa - https://www.instagram.com/itsjojosiwa/ Abby Lee Miller - https://www.instagram.com/therealabbylee /Robbie Blue - https://www.instagram.com/itsrobbiesworld_/ Allison Holker - https://www.instagram.com/allisonholker/ Julie Macdonald- https://www.instagram.com/juliemcdonaldmsa/ Vincent Paterson - https://www.instagram.com/vlpla/ Sabrina Bryan https://www.instagram.com/sabrina.bryan/ Sophia Lucia https://www.instagram.com/_sophialucia/ Autumn Miller - https://www.instagram.com/autumnmiller/ Danielle Guillermo - https://www.instagram.com/daniellestenguillermo/ Lance Guillermo - https://www.instagram.com/lancefreshness/ Enola Bedard - https://www.instagram.com/enola.bedard/ Anita Mann - https://www.instagram.com/anitamannprod/ Jeff Thacker - https://www.instagram.com/jeffthacker/ Richard Jay Alexander - https://www.instagram.com/broadwaydick/ Tia Stokes - https://www.instagram.com/thetiabeestokes/ Mandy Moore- https://www.instagram.com/nopenother/ Michelle Webb -https://www.spotlightevents.com/about-index

Interview Date: June 14th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Julian Mireles shares his unconventional journey into dance, beginning with a background in martial arts and overcoming early physical limitations. Starting later than most, Julian developed a deep curiosity for movement, leading him to study anatomy, biomechanics, and performance science to accelerate his growth and prevent injury. Julian breaks down how his personal struggles shaped the creation of the BodyTech Method—a system built on the belief that strength must come before flexibility. He dives into the gaps within traditional dance training, emphasizing the importance of stability, alignment, and long-term dancer health. Through trial, rejection, and persistence, he transformed his knowledge into a globally recognized training system used by dancers and athletes worldwide. Beyond technique, the conversation explores entrepreneurship, scaling a business, and building authority in a competitive industry. Julian shares insights on mindset, resilience, and creating opportunities, leaving dancers with actionable advice on how to build sustainable, long-term careers both on and off the stage. Shownotes: 0:01 – Introduction and unconventional start in dance 3:28 – Starting late and accelerating development 5:34 – Learning anatomy to improve performance 6:14 – Pandemic pivot to online training platform 7:41 – Turning setbacks into scalable opportunities 9:00 – Building a business independently 11:33 – Facing rejection and proving credibility 14:20 – Leveraging relationships for growth 19:27 – Developing long-term vision and mindset 24:45 – Positioning within the dance industry 30:05 – Gaps in traditional dancer training 36:15 – Shifting from dancer to entrepreneur 42:10 – Building authority and industry trust 48:50 – Systems for sustainable growth 1:02:45 – Final reflections on discipline and success Biography: Julian Mireles is a flexibility, strength, and biomechanics specialist, entrepreneur, and educator, best known as the founder of Bodybreaker Corp and creator of the BodyTech Method. With over 20 years of experience in dance and athletic training, he has built a global reputation for redefining flexibility through strength, stability, and functional movement. His method integrates anatomy, physiology, biomechanics, and injury prevention to help dancers and athletes improve performance safely. Developed through years of research and experience, his system includes over 1,700 exercises targeting flexibility, mobility, turnout, jump mechanics, and overall body control. Through private coaching, studio intensives, teacher education, and online platforms, Julian has trained thousands of dancers worldwide. His students have earned top scholarships, titles, and industry recognition. Rooted in his philosophy, “strength creates safe flexibility,” his work focuses on longevity, measurable progress, and building resilient, high-performing bodies. Based in Miami, he continues to expand the BodyTech Method globally while educating the next generation of dancers and athletes. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bodytechmethod/?hl=en

Interview Date: June 7th, 2026 Episode Summary: This episode dives into Sienna Morris’s journey from a dedicated young dancer to a working professional in Los Angeles, highlighting the mindset, preparation, and initiative required to succeed in today’s dance industry. From choosing dance over gymnastics at an early age to navigating a short-lived opportunity in Monaco, Sienna demonstrates the importance of trusting your instincts and making bold decisions that align with your long-term goals. Her transition into the LA scene, including joining Ballet Red, marked a pivotal shift into the professional world and set the foundation for her evolving career. Throughout the conversation, Sienna emphasizes the power of self-advocacy, networking, and consistency. She shares how introducing herself in rooms, building genuine relationships, and staying visible have directly led to opportunities. A standout mindset she lives by is her “24-hour rule” for handling rejection—allowing herself time to process before moving forward with clarity and focus. She also speaks on the importance of versatility, expanding into acting and performance, and developing multiple skill sets to remain competitive in a fast-paced industry. The episode also explores preparation and personal branding. Sienna discusses how having strong materials—reels, a professional website, and a clear online presence—helped her enter the LA market with confidence. She reflects on mentorship through Business of Dance, landing brand deals, and learning to confidently negotiate her worth. Ultimately, her story reinforces that success in dance goes beyond talent—it requires ownership, resilience, and strong relationships. Her message is clear: the dancers who take initiative and build connections are the ones who create lasting careers. Shownotes: 0:01 – Introduction and Sienna Morris full-circle journey 2:57 – Mentorship experience and early career reflections 4:05 – Early training and choosing dance path 6:37 – Monaco opportunity and trusting your instincts 9:42 – Moving to LA and Ballet Red experience 10:22 – Networking, visibility, and self-advocacy 14:12 – Handling rejection with “24-hour rule” 17:45 – Building versatility across dance and acting 18:48 – College path versus going professional early 23:00 – Preparing materials before entering LA market 26:44 – Business of Dance impact on branding 30:00 – First brand deal and negotiating value 32:20 – Social media strategy and consistency 41:34 – Agents vs self-submissions and ownership 49:55 – Relationships matter: contacts equal contracts Biography: Sienna Morris is an LA-based dancer, actor, model, choreographer, and educator whose work blends contemporary ballet with the versatility of today’s entertainment industry. Known for combining the control of classical ballet with the musicality and storytelling of contemporary movement, she moves seamlessly between concert dance, commercial performance, film, and live entertainment. Her credits include work with Halsey, Evanescence, Derek Hough, and Mark Ballas, as well as collaborations with leading creatives such as Marguerite Derricks, Kyle Hanagami, and Chris Scott. She has appeared in campaigns for FP Movement, Gap, and Jo+Jax. A defining milestone in her career was her appearance on the Star Search, expanding her reach to an international audience. Most recently, she served as associate choreographer on My Boyfriend Is a Demon , continuing to grow her work in choreography, movement direction, and film. Alongside performing, Sienna teaches, choreographs, and mentors the next generation while building a career centered on proving that contemporary ballet can thrive within commercial entertainment and mainstream media.Connect on Social Media Website: www.Sienna-morris.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sisimorris/

Interview Date: May 31st, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Alison Stroming shares her inspiring journey from classical ballet training to building a dynamic career across concert dance, commercial work, teaching, choreography, and entrepreneurship. She reflects on her early training at the School of American Ballet and American Ballet Theatre’s JKO School, the challenges of rejection, and the career-defining opportunities that led her to dance with Alberta Ballet, Ballet San Jose, and Dance Theatre of Harlem. Alison opens up about transitioning from ballet into the commercial dance world, including her move to Los Angeles and booking major opportunities with artists such as Jennifer Lopez, Mariah Carey, Kendrick Lamar, Brent Faiyaz, Kanye West, and more. She highlights the importance of versatility, visibility, resilience, and trusting your instincts while navigating the dance industry. Beyond performing, Alison discusses the launch of A.S. Dancewear and what it takes to build a business while remaining connected to the dance community. She shares how the pandemic shifted her priorities and pushed her to redefine success on her own terms. Her story is a powerful reminder that a dance career does not have to follow one path, and that persistence, adaptability, and strong relationships can open doors in many different directions. Shownotes: 00:02 – Introduction to Alison Stroming’s journey 03:18 – Early training and dance family background 04:30 – Nutcracker performance sparks ballet passion 05:44 – Transitioning from competition to ballet 06:45 – Rejection leads to first contract 08:18 – Navigating companies and finding alignment 09:30 – Touring internationally expands artistic growth 11:19 – Moving to LA for commercial dance 12:10 – First major job with Jennifer Lopez 13:30 – Pandemic forces major career pivot 13:54 – Launching A.S. Dancewear brand 15:29 – Shifting business focus and priorities 17:21 – Setting long-term Broadway career goals 25:28 – Versatility essential across dance styles 42:43 – Balancing entrepreneurship with dance career Biography: Alison Stroming is a professional dancer, model, teacher, choreographer, and entrepreneur. Born in Recife, Brazil and raised in New York City, she began her formal ballet training at age nine at the School of American Ballet before continuing on full scholarship at the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis School at American Ballet Theatre. She later joined ABT Studio Company before beginning her professional career with Alberta Ballet. Alison has performed with Alberta Ballet, Ballet San Jose, and Dance Theatre of Harlem, where she danced principal roles and toured internationally. She has also performed with Aretha Franklin at the Kennedy Center Honors and toured with Sarah McLachlan during the Hope Rising! Canadian Tour. As a commercial dancer and model, Alison has appeared in campaigns for Tumi, Canon, Under Armour, Free People Movement, Adidas, McDonald’s, and American Eagle. She has also worked on projects for Jennifer Lopez, India Arie, Mariah Carey, Kendrick Lamar, Brent Faiyaz, and Kanye West. In 2018, Alison launched A.S. Dancewear, a brand focused on mentorship, empowerment, and supporting dancers. She continues to perform, teach, choreograph, and inspire dancers around the world. Connect with Alison: Website: https://www.alisonstroming.com A.S. Dancewear: https://www.asdancewear.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alisonstroming Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlisonStroming

Interview Date: August 4th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast , Kelly Sweeney shares her journey from starting dance at age 10 to becoming one of the busiest teachers, choreographers, and creatives in Los Angeles. Originally from Mexico and raised in LA, Kelly talks about growing up bilingual, moving quickly through the competition world, and making an early shift into commercial dance and hip-hop training. She reflects on getting signed young, building her teaching career from the ground up by renting her own studio space, and using social media intentionally to create visibility for both her choreography and her students. Her story is a strong example of how consistency, self-belief, and a clear understanding of your strengths can build a sustainable career in dance. Kelly also opens up about pivotal career moments, including choreographing for Shakira, creating the viral Descendants “Red” dance, working with Disney again for Zombies 4 , and stepping into the convention circuit with Press Play. She speaks candidly about the sacrifices that come with an unpredictable dance career, the importance of finding balance, and why comparison can be one of the biggest traps for dancers. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes confidence, cleanliness, performance quality, leadership, and health, while reminding dancers to stop chasing someone else’s lane and instead build a career around what makes them unique. Show Notes Kelly started dance later than most Competition dance quickly became serious training Hip-hop training shifted her career path Renting her own studio built momentum Student videos helped grow her platform Shakira was her first big choreography break Red became a major viral moment Press Play marks a new chapter Comparison can block your growth Health and balance sustain longevity Biography: Kelly Sweeney is a dynamic choreographer, educator, and creative force with a diverse career across television, film, live entertainment, theater, and professional sports. Born in Mexico and raised in Los Angeles, Kelly began choreographing in her early teens, launching her professional choreography career at just 18 years old. Her credits span some of the industry’s most recognized stages and screens. Kelly served as a choreographer for NBC’s Dancing with Myself, featuring Shakira and Nick Jonas, and has assisted on major dance television productions including So You Think You Can Dance and Dancing with the Stars. Most recently, she contributed to Disney’s Descendants: The Rise of Red, further expanding her work in film and commercial entertainment. Kelly is also currently choreographing for top NBA entertainment teams, including the Laker Girls and the Knicks City Dancers, while continuing to collaborate with emerging music artists on live performances, creative direction, and music videos. Her recent work also includes choreography for Eurovision finalist and performer Silia Kapsis. With roots in musical theater, Kelly brings a strong storytelling foundation to her work. She has choreographed productions including Seussical and Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for Sierra Madre Playhouse, blending technical excellence, performance quality, and emotional expression. Known for her versatility, creativity, and ability to bring out the best in dancers, Kelly continues to make her mark as a sought-after choreographer and educator across the entertainment industry. Connect on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/kellysweeney1/

Episode Summary In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast , George Jones Jr. shares his unconventional path into the dance industry, from starting dance at 17 to building a successful commercial career working with artists like Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Nicki Minaj, and Usher. He opens up about coming from a musical theater foundation, teaching himself hip-hop through culture and observation, and learning how to navigate the industry by staying adaptable, observant, and open to unexpected opportunities. His story is a powerful reminder that there is no single timeline in dance, and that success often comes from taking a different road than the one you originally imagined. George also dives deep into the realities of the professional dance world, including how relationships can shape your career more than money, why strategy matters in auditions, and how dancers must learn to identify their lane while still building versatility. He speaks candidly about moving from New York to Los Angeles, booking major opportunities through submissions and connections, and eventually transitioning from performer to choreographer and mentor. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes collaboration, self-awareness, resilience, and the importance of building a career that reflects who you truly are, not just what the industry expects from you. Top 10 Show Notes 3:47 — George started dancing at 17 6:31 — College scholarship launched his dance path 8:55 — He found his lane in dance 10:46 — Rhapsody James changed his commercial career 15:22 — New York built grit and artistic layers 18:56 — LA became the next career move 26:09 — Skeleton crew work led to bigger jobs 31:00 — Britney tour came through visibility and submissions 41:00 — He built his own lane as choreographer 1:08:19 — Auditions require strategy, not just talent Biography: George Jones Jr. is an accomplished choreographer, educator, and performer with extensive experience across commercial dance, live performance, and elite team choreography. His career launched working with Britney Spears and has since included collaborations with Jennifer Lopez, Nicki Minaj, and Usher, along with appearances on major television shows, award stages, and international tours. A graduate of Marymount Manhattan College, George combines strong technical training with a foundation in production and visual design, bringing a well-rounded creative approach to his work. Which ranges from a flashy Jazz and Jazz Funk Technique, to a hard hitting and visually impactful Hip Hop technique. He has choreographed for professional teams including the Dallas Cowboys Rhythm & Blue Dancers and Sacramento Kings Dancers, and has spent over a decade working with Varsity Spirit, developing and training dancers at a national level. Currently represented by MSA Agency, George continues to teach and choreograph internationally while focusing on creating high-impact work for collegiate and professional dance teams. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrgeorgejonesjr/

Interview date: May 3rd, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast , Gary Edwards shares his remarkable journey from a seven-year-old boy in London learning to dance so he could attend his mother’s events, to becoming a world champion ballroom dancer, international judge, and now CEO and partner of Arthur Murray Dance Studios. He reflects on the unwavering conviction he had from a young age that dance would not just be his passion, but his profession, despite pushback from a world that did not yet see dance—especially for boys—as a serious career path. From his first paid job at 17 to years spent performing, judging, and teaching around the world, Gary’s story is one of persistence, adaptability, and saying yes to opportunity. The conversation also dives into the business side of dance in a powerful way. Gary discusses how Arthur Murray has remained successful for more than a century by focusing on fun, connection, and community, while also explaining the urgent need to modernize through social media, updated systems, and broader visibility. He shares entertaining stories about teaching Michael Jackson a cha-cha to “Billie Jean,” spending time with Janet Jackson and other celebrities, and emphasizes that even the biggest stars simply want to be treated like human beings. Most importantly, he offers dancers practical advice on resilience, pivoting through rejection, learning business skills, managing time well, and creating sustainable careers in dance beyond performance alone. Top 10 Show Notes 1:29 — Gary began dancing at seven years old 5:22 — First paid dance job at 17 6:01 — Opportunity led him to Arthur Murray 9:55 — Fun and community built lasting success 12:55 — Social media changed dance business completely 16:33 — Never give up, learn to pivot 28:29 — Taught Michael Jackson cha-cha to Billie Jean 30:40 — Michael transformed completely in dance mode 23:56 — UNF partnership creates dance business pathway 1:06:13 — Dance changed a veteran’s life forever Biography: Gary Edwards, CEO of Arthur Murray Dance Studios, has spent over four decades immersed in the dance industry, earning a reputation as a distinguished leader and innovator. As a world-ranked dancer, his competitive achievements have solidified his status within the dance community. In addition to his vast expertise in dance education and studio management, Gary also brings a strong presence in the media world, having collaborated on various dance projects, television appearances, and productions that celebrate the art of dance. Connect on Social Media: Website: www.arthurmurray.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arthurmurrayintl/ ​​https://www.instagram.com/ballroomgiant/

Interview Date: April 26th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato sits down with Karynn Hough, Director of Millennium Dance Complex Nashville and founder of Fresh Talent Group, for an honest and inspiring conversation about building a dance career outside of the traditional LA/New York path. Karynn shares how her daughter’s professional journey helped spark her desire to create more opportunities for Nashville dancers, eventually leading her to launch an agency rooted in mentorship, relationships, and genuine care for talent . Karynn opens up about the growth of Nashville’s entertainment scene, the power of collaboration between agencies, and why dancers should never limit themselves to one box. From casting Emmy-winning commercial work to seeing choreography land inside Fortnite, she reminds dancers that authentic work, strong preparation, and being visible can lead to unexpected opportunities. Throughout the conversation, Karynn gives practical advice for young dancers pursuing representation: follow instructions, keep training, clean up your Instagram, build an EPK, research the people in the room, and be kind to everyone. She also emphasizes the importance of improv, professionalism, persistence, and creating your own opportunities, especially for dancers from smaller cities or nontraditional markets. Show Notes: (00:41) Karynn’s early dance roots and family inspiration (03:27) Why Nashville needed its own talent agency (04:50) How Solace helped inspire Karynn’s career path (06:00) Fresh Talent Group meets Millennium Dance Complex (09:40) Millennium becomes Nashville’s creative rehearsal hub (12:17) Representing dancers, singers, actors, and influencers (14:05) Why Karynn refuses to box dancers in (16:38) Emmy-winning work from authentic creative passion (20:23) Advice for international dancers pursuing American agencies (32:00) Instagram presence matters more than dancers realize (35:20) Why every dancer needs a strong EPK (40:01) The biggest teen mistake: ignoring instructions (42:23) Improv reveals smart, castable dancers quickly (47:00) Auditions begin before entering the room (1:26:58) Small-town dancers need perseverance and uniqueness Biography: Karynn Wright-Hough is an Emmy Award–winning talent agent, entrepreneur, and Founder of FreshTalent Group, a boutique agency representing dancers, choreographers, actors, singers, and specialty talent. Originally from Buffalo, NY, she combines her background in journalism, marketing, and design with a passion for developing artists and building lasting careers. Inspired in part by watching her daughter Solace pursue her own professional path, Karynn launched FreshTalent Group in 2016 to create a trustworthy, family-centered approach to talent representation. She is known for guiding artists holistically — from development and branding to booking and long-term strategy — always prioritizing longevity over quick wins. Under her leadership, the agency has worked with major networks and award-winning artists across country, pop, gospel, and hip-hop. Beyond her professional accomplishments, Karynn is a devoted Buffalo Bills fan, enjoys crocheting and crafting, and is most proud of the community and culture she has built through mentorship, integrity, and heart. Connect on Social Media: Website: www.freshtalentgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freshtalentgroup/

Interview Date: April 19th, 2026 Episode Summary In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast , Austin Lee shares his inspiring journey from a young boy in Orlando putting on living room performances for his family to becoming a working professional dancer in Los Angeles. He reflects on how dance immediately clicked for him after trying many other sports, and how winning a Hollywood Summer Tour scholarship at his very first convention opened his eyes to the possibilities of a real career in dance. From moving to LA alone at just 15 years old to training in the Launch program at The Space, Austin’s story is a powerful example of commitment, independence, and trusting your path from a very young age. Austin also talks candidly about the difficult in-between years of training and transition, when many dancers are not yet booking regularly, and emphasizes the importance of patience, mindset, and trusting your timing. He shares standout moments from his career, including working with Lady Gaga, performing on Star Search , and building momentum through high-level opportunities that followed. Throughout the conversation, he offers honest advice on comparison, recovery, community, financial wisdom, speaking up for yourself, and staying open to the many skills a professional dance career may require. His message to dancers is clear: trust your talent, stay consistent, and don’t give up just because someone else’s timeline looks different from yours. Top 10 Show Notes 2:00 — Dance instantly clicked after first class 4:29 — First convention scholarship changed his path 5:20 — Hollywood Summer Tour opened his eyes 6:33 — Moved to LA alone at 15 10:43 — First major job on James Corden 13:16 — Dancing for Lady Gaga fulfilled dream 18:31 — Star Search schedule was intense and fast 20:39 — Show visibility led to bigger opportunities 22:46 — Trust your timing, not comparison 40:54 — Save money and speak up Biography: Austin Lee is a Los Angeles–based professional dancer, choreographer, and artist originally from Orlando, Florida. Renowned for his versatility, precision, and determination, Austin has built a career spanning television, film, music videos, and live performance. His recent credits include being the Dance Champion and Finalist on Netflix’s Star Search with his collective “Movement 55”, working with Lady Gaga on “Abracadabra (Fan Edit)” and appearing in Doechii’s “Anxiety.” Austin has also shared the stage with acclaimed artists such as New Kids On The Block, Jordan Fisher, JoJo Siwa, Snow Wife, and Tash Blake, and has been featured in high-profile creative collaborations including Google, GoPro x Derek Hough and etc. His television and film work includes the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, The Late Late Show with James Corden, So You Think You Can Dance, NBC’s World of Dance, Disney’s Fam Jam, Amazon Prime’s Tiny Dancers, and A Week Away: The Series. A graduate of the prestigious Launch Training Program at The Brea Space, Austin dedicated five years to refining his craft while cultivating lasting relationships within the industry. He currently travels nationwide as a Radix Pro Assistant, working alongside renowned choreographers such as Brian Friedman, Tessandra Chavez, and Tyce Diorio, bringing inspiration, mentorship, and high-level artistry to dancers across the country. Grounded in authenticity and driven by a passion for storytelling through movement, Austin continues to carve out a powerful creative voice. As both a performer and collaborator, he remains committed to growth, connection, and pushing the boundaries of what dance can communicate—marking him as an artist to watch as his career continues to unfold. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/austinblaiselee/

Interview Date: April 12th, 2026 Episode Summary In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast , Alicia Mae Holloway shares her extraordinary journey from a small-town competition dancer in West Virginia to building a multifaceted career in ballet, commercial dance, modeling, acting, and social media. She reflects on knowing from the age of three that dance was her purpose, and how that conviction led her to leave home at just 13 years old to pursue elite ballet training. From earning a full scholarship to the School of American Ballet to landing her first professional contracts, Alicia’s story is one of deep faith, resilience, and bold commitment to her dreams. Alicia also opens up about the realities of a long professional career: painful auditions, injuries, rejection, career pivots, and the mental challenges that dancers face when their identity is tied so closely to performance. She shares how Dance Theatre of Harlem shaped her artistry, how social media unexpectedly expanded her career, and why authenticity matters more than perfection in today’s entertainment world. Her advice to young dancers is both practical and inspiring: stay true to yourself, embrace being multidimensional, and remember that rejection is often redirection. Top 10 Show Notes 3:58 — Alicia knew dance was her calling 6:17 — West Virginia scholarship changed everything 9:35 — Moved away from home at 14 14:21 — Worst audition led to first contract 19:49 — Six-hour audition booked Dance Theatre Harlem 21:17 — Mentor predicted her DTH future 27:40 — TikTok consistency sparked massive growth 35:45 — Talent plus visibility creates more opportunities 57:05 — Rejection is redirection, not the end 1:09:14 — Dance for yourself, not approval Biography:Alicia Mae Holloway is from Morgantown, West Virginia and began dancing when she was three years old at Kat and Company Dance Studio. In 2007, Alicia began taking classes at Morgantown Dance Studio. She also trained at Central Pennsylvania Youth Ballet and the University of North Carolina School of the Arts before attending the School of American Ballet from 2011–2015. Alicia has attended the Boston Ballet Summer Dance Program, as well as Pacific Northwest Ballet. She began her professional career dancing with the Suzanne Farrell Ballet, and completed seven seasons with the Dance Theatre of Harlem where she has worked with Alicia Keys, Aretha Franklin, and Gladys Knight. She has shot music videos with Grammy award–winning artist KEM, as well as JAGMAC and Eryn Martin, and can be seen in Google commercials, Maybelline commercials, and in Glamour Magazine’s November issue, as well as an online feature of Who Wore What, and most recently, has a story live now with PEOPLE Magazine regarding her audition process and training with the Rockettes. In 2023, Alicia appeared on the cover of PEOPLE, further expanding her national visibility. Alicia was also the Lead Principal Dancer in Josh Bergasse’s Sugar Hill: The Ellington/Strayhorn Nutcracker, bringing new life to the iconic reimagining of the classic ballet. She has served as the co-chairwoman of the School of American Ballet’s Visiting Faculty Program and was a Princess Grace Award nominee. Alicia was cast as The Lady in a Yellow Dress in the revival of Broadway’s show CONTACT, by Susan Stroman. In addition to her dance career, Alicia models for American Eagle, Aime Leon Dore, and Victoria’s Secret. She filmed her first movie last year-dancing and acting in Man With the Bag, directed by Adam Shankman. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: Https://www.instagram.com/aliciamaeholloway Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aliciamaeholloway

Interview Date: March 29 Episode Summary: In this episode of the Business of Dance Podcast , Menina Fortunato sits down with internationally acclaimed dancer, creative, and entrepreneur Loïc Mabanza to explore his inspiring journey from street dancing in Paris to working with some of the biggest names in entertainment. Entirely self-taught, Loïc shares how dance was never something he formally planned for—it was simply part of who he was. Everything shifted when, at just 16 years old, he was paid for his first music video, opening his eyes to the possibility of building a real career through dance. Loïc reflects on the mindset that carried him through uncertainty, rejection, and doubt. He speaks candidly about being underestimated by peers, yet staying committed to a vision that others could not see. Rather than waiting for the perfect opportunity, he focused on consistent action, trusting that small steps would eventually lead him where he wanted to go. His story is a powerful example of how clarity, preparation, and resilience can turn impossible dreams into real opportunities. Throughout the conversation, Loïc shares pivotal moments that shaped his career, from using street performances to fund travel, to taking bold risks like crashing auditions and placing himself in rooms he technically was not invited into. Those decisions became defining turning points that led to major professional breakthroughs, including opportunities on the global stage. This episode is filled with wisdom for dancers and creatives carving out their own path. Loïc challenges the idea of having a “plan B,” encouraging artists to fully back themselves while building confidence through small wins and real-life evidence. His perspective is a reminder that success is rarely linear, but with vision, adaptability, self-belief, and persistence, it becomes possible to create a career far beyond what others expect. Shownotes: 00:00 – Introduction to Loïc Mabanza and his global career 04:00 – Growing up self-taught and naturally connected to dance 05:50 – First paid music video sparks professional ambition 08:15 – Choosing dance fully and moving with intention 13:20 – Being doubted by others and staying committed 20:00 – Success as a step-by-step journey 26:30 – The overseas journey that led to Madonna 28:30 – Street performances funding career opportunities 37:40 – Crashing an audition and making the finals 49:30 – Building confidence through small wins 52:00 – Advice for dancers pursuing their dreams Biography: Loïc Mabanza is a French-born professional dancer, choreographer, actor, filmmaker, author, model, and entrepreneur known for his versatility and high-energy performance style. Over the course of his career, he has worked with global artists including Madonna, Usher, Chris Brown, Kendrick Lamar, Mariah Carey, Cher, Jay-Z, Fergie, Jennifer Hudson, and Wizkid . He was also selected by creative director Jamie King and choreographers Richmond and Anthony Talauega to be one of Michael Jackson’s dancers for the posthumous album Xscape . His commercial portfolio includes campaigns for major global brands such as Louis Vuitton, Givenchy, Ralph Lauren, Levi’s, Swarovski, Diesel, Timberland, Samsung, Toyota, and Equinox , where he became a brand ambassador following the “Life is the Luxury” campaign. He has also appeared in respected editorial publications including W Magazine, Vogue Germany, Vogue Arabia, V Magazine, GQ, and Harper’s Bazaar Brazil . As an actor, Loïc has appeared in Moon Knight (2022), And Just Like That... (2023), Girls5eva (2024), and The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins (2026). He is also the founder and CEO of Underground Justice Studios , a creative studio and production company, and has written, directed, and produced multiple short films and music videos. His debut novel is set for release later this year. Connect with Loïc: Website: www.undergroundjustice.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loicmabanza/

Interview Date: March 22nd, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Menina Fortunato sits down with choreographer and movement director Mark Samuels for a conversation about persistence, timing, and carving out your own path in the dance industry. Mark shares how he started out as a self-taught dancer in Toronto, learning choreography by recording music videos on VHS tapes and studying them frame by frame long before YouTube or social media existed. He opens up about his early years dancing with Luther Brown’s group Do Dat , how that experience launched his professional career, and the bold move that changed everything: cold-calling contacts connected to a music video he loved until one of those calls led him to New York for a Mariah Carey project. Mark also reflects on the importance of saying yes, staying versatile, building relationships, and continuing to train beyond your comfort zone. From assisting Paul Becker for years to choreographing recent major projects like the Juno Awards, Mark’s story is a reminder that longevity in this industry comes from talent, initiative, and consistency. Show Notes 0:01 — Mark’s dance career and major credits intro 2:45 — Learning dance from VHS and MuchMusic 10:33 — Joining Luther Brown’s Do Dat crew 13:15 — Early paid gigs and touring Canada 17:40 — Assisting Paul Becker for years in film 21:05 — Mariah Carey story begins with cold-calling 34:36 — “Say yes and figure it out” 45:22 — Biggest mistake: not training in more styles 57:56 — “Contacts equals contracts” career lesson 1:33:31 — Slow growth, patience, and next goals matter In the early days of his career, Mark danced for countless Canadian artists such as Shawn Desman, Jully Black, Maestro Fresh Wes and Nelly Furtado to name a few. He also danced in Canada’s most notable shows such as The Juno Awards, MMVA’s and So You Think You Can Dance Canada. After spending years as a dancer in Canada, Mark expanded to the US, wherehe was fortunate enough to work with some of the industry‘s biggest choreographers. His journey led him to dance for multi-platinum recording artists such as Mariah Carey, Mary J Blige, Missy Elliott, Kelis, Mario and many more. Today, Mark is a well-established figure in the dance industry. With over 30 years of experience, he has shifted his passion into choreography and movement direction. He‘s collaborated on a number of successful film and TV shows such as A Series Of Unfortunate Events, Disney’s - The Descendants and The Magicians. He recently choreographed The 2025 Juno Awards for Aqyila and Shawn Desman‘s latest music video, “Body.“ He is currently working on his “Back To Life“ nationwide tour. Connect on Social Media Website: https://www.marksamuelsofficial.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksamuelsofficial

Interview Date: March 8th, 2026 In this inspiring episode, Jason Williams shares his journey from a curious three-year-old stepping into dance class to becoming a globally recognized performer, choreographer, and creative visionary. He reflects on the pivotal moments that shaped his career—from boldly inserting himself into opportunities like So You Think You Can Dance to working with icons such as Lady Gaga and Beyoncé. Jason emphasizes the power of initiative, reminding dancers that “visibility is your responsibility” and that success often comes from fearlessly putting yourself in the room. As the conversation unfolds, Jason opens up about his evolution beyond performing and into creative direction and entrepreneurship. Feeling unfulfilled despite professional success, he made the bold decision to pivot, ultimately creating his own work, including a sold-out production in New York. His story highlights a powerful truth: when opportunities don’t exist, you must create them. This shift into producing and directing allowed him to fully step into his identity as a visionary artist. The episode also dives into mindset, identity, and the balance between artistry and business. Jason introduces a memorable analogy of being a “dolphin among sharks,” encouraging dancers to embrace both their creativity and business acumen. Through Q&A with young dancers, he reinforces the importance of versatility, authenticity, and personal branding—leaving listeners with actionable advice and a renewed sense of empowerment in navigating the dance industry. Shownotes: 0:01 – Guest intro + career highlights overview 4:00 – Started dance at age three by chance 6:54 – Passion became serious in competitive training years 9:03 – Bold move led to SYTYCD opportunity 10:30 – “Visibility is your responsibility” mindset 13:32 – Importance of identity beyond just talent 14:13 – Post-show hustle and booking major jobs 19:18 – Working with Lady Gaga and career highlights 24:55 – Transition from performer to creator/producer 35:06 – Artist vs. business mindset (“dolphin vs shark”) Biography: Jason Williams is a movement architect, dancer, director, and visionary whose work pulses with spirit, sensuality, and soul. Rooted in culture and shaped by experiences, his artistry is spiritual, intentional, and joy-forward—crafted to move both body and soul. A finalist on So You Think You Can Dance (Season 2), Jason has built an international career across film, television, stage, and commercial work. His credits include High School Musical, FAME, Dirty Dancing, and Hairspray LIVE, with TV appearances on RuPaul’s Drag Race, POSE, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Dancing with the Stars, SNL, and more. He’s performed with icons like Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys and many more. He has graced stages at the Oscars, BET Awards, MTV Awards, Emmys, and Billboard Music Awards. Jason wrote, directed, choreographed, and produced The Jason Williams Experience: LIVE!—a sold-out production at NYC’s Alvin Ailey Theater. In 2024, he launched NOIR, a bold new dance company and platform celebrating excellence, identity, and community. Internationally known for his jazz-rooted technique, soulful musicality, and transformational teaching, Jason’s choreography awakens presence, honors lineage, and ignites joy. With a signature style blending foundation, feeling, and truth, his work isn’t just unforgettable—it’s undeniable. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: thejasonwilliamsexperience Website: https://www.thejasonwilliamsexperience.com/