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Published by Steven W / Karl H
Make Progress, Not Excuses. From ultra lazy to ultra marathon. After 25 years of friendship and 10 years of running; Ste & Teds talk all things physical, mental and emotional endurance. Strava - Karl Hodgson / Steven Willetts Instagram @the_brigboyspodcast email thebrigboys@outlook.com
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It's not often we get to welcome our guests for a face to face interview, so it was fantastic to get this local runner and incredible athlete into the studio. James' story is an intriguing one, from getting into running at age 40, he's now a record holder for Blackburn Harriers and has gone from strength to strength since visiting Kenya for a serious training camp. This guy loves to eat, sleep and breathe running. He tells us how he's hit the dizzy heights of a sub 16 5k and taking home the win at Preston 10K. What a guy, what an athlete, what a listen!
Sometimes in life you just need a bit of guidance in your journey... Fresh out of parting the Red Sea we are joined by Lewis Moses himself, a man who oozes passion for the running game. Not only did he grow up living and breathing our favourite sport, but after a health scare he made a name for himself as one of the finest coaches in the business. We are lucky and privileged to share the airwaves with this font of knowledge and Director of Runner Experience & Coaching at RunThrough. Some absolute golden nuggets in this episode.
Once again, Karl takes on another major marathon - one that he has some unfinished business with. As he chases that elusive road PB we discuss the event itself, as well as every other major and the feasibility and affordability of taking part in these epic events. The Brig Boys discuss all things pacing (Preston Half Marathon) and racing as we look towards the end of what has been a fruitful year of running.
We are joined this week by an absolute legend of the running world with former Bob Graham record holder, Beth Pascall. Beth has some quite frankly incredible results under her belt and talks us through the highs, lows and in-betweens of what has been a fantastic career. Working through injuries has taken it's toll both physically and mentally but Beth remains ultra professional and positive as she looks forward to what she can achieve and what exactly is left to do for the woman that has pretty much done it all! A real pleasure to talk to such an insightful and absolute speed demon of the trails.
Also known as @runstretchsucceed - we caught up with the main diva and ultra endurance connoisseur, Andrew Farrall. A fellow Protein Rebel ambassador, Andrew is a well known and sometimes controversial character in the running community - with some fantastic experiences under his belt, we wanted to hear more about his past, present and future in the world of ultra. This episode is full of exclusives and expletives so buckle in for the ride of your life...
With summer well and truly over, the Brig Boys reconvene to discuss the plans for the remainder of 2026 and of course the results of everyone's favourite ballot - Lakeland 50/100 for 2027. With The Lap and Berlin Marathon still to go for the lads, there's still plenty to play for in 2026. All the hot topics are covered including who provides the best medals, the best t-shirts and the best events. We are BACK.
We are joined this week by a local rising star of triathlon, Leah Hoole. Hailing from Darwen, Blackburn she has already achieved so much in such a short time in the world of endurance. We discuss the importance of family and role models in sport, as well as taking part in some of the most epic events on the planet... Completing Kona before smashing the half iron man to book her place at the World Champs in a few weeks.
I guess it's about time we moved on from the epic Lakeland 100 / 50 weekend in Coniston... BUT before we do, we got together to debrief our own races and the latest experience where both Brig Boys came home with a PB each across the distances. Talking fuelling, strategies, results and future planning... One thing is for sure, we're already looking ahead to 2027!
We all know what it means when we say "Lakeland Family", but Thea and Jess take it one step further as the mother & daughter duo successfully finished the Lakeland 100 2026 together. After an epic weekend we discuss the strong family history in endurance sports as well as Thea's competitive nature as she currently holds the record for the youngest ever Lakeland 100 completion after starting with the Lakeland 1 she is also a proud "Triple Crown" holder. As always we are inspired by the guests we host and their stories - if you love Lakeland, you'll love this!
As we are dangerously close to the Lakeland 50/100 2026, we draw our focus into the people that make the event - the amateur runners. Phil and Em join us to discuss their own journey towards Lakeland, starting with the 50 and then straight onto the 100... Although they fell short of the distance in 2025, they have not stopped believing and will once again take to the start line in Coniston in 2026.
This week we welcome back an incredible athlete and a man whose journey in life has been tumultuous to say the least; we've never met someone with such resilience and had the pleasure to share the airwaves with Luke Grenfell-Shaw who currently sits in the top 1% in the world in UTMB rankings. His story is unique from a heartbreaking cancer diagnosis at a young age to donning the coveted Team GB vest with the small feat. of cycling the distance of Bristol to Beijing on a tandem bike. Luke is an awesome athlete and an inspirational man, who continues to strive to be the very best he can be. Next stop - CCC! Photo: @rising.story
If you're anything like us, you've had your fair share of blisters and chafe in places you didn't think you could... Foot care is the bane of many a trail / road runner and is something we are constantly on the hunt for advice and guidance on. Up steps Dave Johnson, a man who has now dedicated a business to support runners of all capabilities to have one less thing to worry about come race day... We learn all about Dave's impressive background in running including several BIG distances and pick his brains for all things foot care, bllister prevention and advice for anyone thinking about an ultra. Consider this a warning - take care of those trotters!
The Brig Boys return to discuss all things ultra distance. One week after Ste's completion of a solo 86 mile run from Wallsend to Bowness On Solway on the Hadrian's Wall Path, we discuss what goes on both physically and mentally during and after these extreme distances. How do people prepare for ultra distances, and most importantly how do people recover?! What kind of planning does it take to go from one side of the country to another on foot and what kind of support really helps in those dark moments. Massive thank you to anyone who donated to the cause - enjoy the recap!
Fresh out of Snowdonia after another podium finish, Keith discusses his 3rd place finish at the UTS 100K and unpacks the challenges and tribulations that comes with being at the top end of the field. Keith talks us through his history from getting into the ultra scene relatively late and the changes he's seen since joining the Elite Trail Team with coach and friend of the podcast - Doug Stewart. Every race is an opportunity to learn and we get the lowdown on Keith's reflections just days after UTS. With a current UTMB index of 867, what's next for Keith and just how do you maintain a strong body and mind when it comes to elite performances?
Ground control to Major Karl - The Brig Boys get back together to discuss Karl's epic trip to the USA to complete the most prestigious of Marathons. With Major Marathon season in full flow we get the immediate reaction of Sebastian Sawe's record breaking London win alongside the incredible standard set for sub-2 marathon runs. If you've any interest in marathons, be them major or minor - we've got you covered.
Spring has well and truly sprung as we head into marathon season; discussing our upcoming events including the epic Boston Marathon journey for call and the hot dog Manchester Marathon for Ste. We head into April full of hope and carbohydrates and discuss fuelling strategies, pacing plans and of course how we continue to learn with every run. Here we go!
The Brig Boys spread their wings once again and speak to Dave Ross of the world famous "Ross Running News" - coming live via Zoom from the USA. Dave has forgotten more than we'll ever know about running (and celebrity birthdays) and we caught up with him in Karl's lead up to Boston Marathon. As a chap who has rubbed shoulders with some of the greats including Mr Kipchoge - we wanted to know Dave's story and his journey to Major Marathon completions...
The Brig Boys are BACK and catch up with Elite Trail Team star and all round fantastic person - Poppy Collingwood. One of the runners made during Covid times, she has continued to develop into a magnificent runner as well as a mentally tough athlete. Poppy has some epic performances to her name including an Arc of Attrition win as well as podium finishes in some of the most difficult races in the world. We discuss the lows of injuries and how to deal with that in an emotionally mature manner, as well as the importance of safety on the mountains. Love Poppy's energy and as she prepares to crew at the Speed Project - we are excited for her road to recovery... All roads lead to Chamonix!
At Brig Boys HQ we pride ourselves on giving a platform to both established and upcoming talent in the world of sport. Matt is Blackburn Harriers latest export with some incredible performances at a young age, including his recent 10K win at Ribble Valley (29.05 - ludicrous!). Matt is on his way to a great running career, with a positive attitude and love of the sport - it was great to hear another local lad smashing it! Instagram: @matt_ramsden
Most people don't see an advertisement for joining a team to row 3,000 miles across the Atlantic with no prior rowing experience and think "Yes Please!" - but Ellie is not most people, she's an ordinary woman doing extraordinary things. We want to know all about her adventures after the recent release of her book "There She Rows", heading back to her days completing at Iron Man before taking to the oars to spend 39 days at sea alongside the There She Rows team. Amazing story and another awesome guest! Instagram: @ellies.row.journal
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