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The Count Us In Podcast was born from 3 working drummers meeting at a Drum Camp, and after spending countless hours discussing their struggles and successes with this wonderful instrument, they decided to open the conversation to the wider drumming community. Matt Lacey, Jamie Joiner and Harry Surman are talking about the drumming journey, whilst letting the listener into their practice schedules, gigging preparations and drumming goals. This podcast is from working drummers , for working drummers! Join the conversation and get in touch on Instagram: @countusinpodcast
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In this episode, we continue our discussion from our "Planting Your Flag" episode and talk about being original. We dive into confidence behind the drums, talk about originality in creating parts for original bands, and if its possible to be original in a covers band. Instagram: @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, we discuss teaching in groups. With Matt recently putting on a masterclass for his students, we thought it would be a good time to discuss how different it is to one-on-one teaching, how we aim to get the most value out of those group sessions and what makes a masterclass different to a group lessons. Instagram - @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, we discuss the concept of “planting our flag”. Whether our “flag” is wanting to be proficient in a specific genre, being all in on studio work over live work, or being known for education, we dive deep into what our “flag” could be. Let us know if you’ve found your flag on Instagram - @countusinpodcast Matt - @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie - @jamiejoinermusic Harry - @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
With the summer festival season in full swing, and weddings left right and centre, we thought it would be perfect timing to talk about how we manage our schedules during a busy time like this. Connect with us on Instagram - @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this weeks episode, the trio returns! We get the lowdown on Jamies trip to Italy, Matt's new Evans Drumheads line up for his kits and Harry's thoughts on the Rolling Stones's new album! We discuss using backing tracks and our experience with them, good and bad! We discuss the easiest and most efficient way to run them and how you could incorporate it into your live set! Instagram: @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this weeks episode, Matt and Harry talk about being adaptable. We discuss different gigging situations where we’ve had to adapt our playing, but other situations that you may find yourself in. Jamie, is enjoying some time in Italy! Instagram: @countusinpodcast Matt - @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie - @jamiejoinermusic Harry - @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, we discuss our essential gig gear! From our go-to essentials, to our gig savers, and best finds, we talk all the items we can't gig without! What are your bits of essential gig gear? Let us know on our instagram - @harryplaysdrums *Apologies for the audio issues - Our normal recording situation surprised with a last minute update that isn't valid with Harry's Mac so he's recording through AirPod Pro's via an iPad. We appreciate you listening! Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this weeks episode (or therapy session), we discuss the bad gigs. All the funny moments, the not so funny moments and the moments we wish we could forget! What are some of your bad gig or gig horror stories? Tell us on instagram - @countusinpodcast Questlove drum fill fail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjiq0DoSQD8 Matt - @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this weeks episode we tackle the vast (and slightly vague) topic of "being professional". Yes, there are many things that quantify being professional, but what are the things that we maybe overlook? What are the things that maybe matter more than just being really good at what you do? Hmmm.... Let us know what you think contributes to "Being Professional" on our instagram - @countusinpodcast Matt - @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this weeks episode, we discuss what we think "the dream" is. We discuss things that we'd love to do in our drumming journeys and things we've done that feel like big achievements. What do you feel most proud of in your drumming journey, and for you what is "the dream"? Let us know on our Instagram - @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode we continue our practice pad exercises with our 6th episode in the series. We all bring a different exercises that use various rudiments and explain how these workouts can be both useful before a gig and to develop technique, but also to embellish into something completely your own. Head to our instagram - @countusinpodcast to see us play these exercises long with notation. Death Cab Recommendations Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Iw9mFY0eONQjaPIlQvDRF?si=a02f41ca7a17444b Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, we return to our "Deep Dive" series where one of us presents the others with an album to listen to top to bottom, and we dive deep on the drummer behind the album, the drum parts, the sounds, production and songwriting. With Matt not joining us for this episode, Jamie and Harry chat about one of Jamie's favourites, "Plans" by Death Cab For Cutie. Released in 2005, and their first major label record, this album progresses the bands sound whilst still referencing their indie roots. Jason McGerr delivers more incredibly musical yet complimentary drum parts across the album. Spotify Playlist of Death Cab songs: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Iw9mFY0eONQjaPIlQvDRF?si=21Wta_6LRluDHzKw9MBxhg&pi=OShErX4lTZOas YouTube Video Recommendations: Jason & Nic breakdown Death Cab grooves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO5Ltbq6a9E&list=PLVuKHi9v2Rn7WiGVNn5p9duOQ4wQzEK5A&index=1 Jason & Corey Foneville: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ehBaLdlKo&list=PLVuKHi9v2Rn7WiGVNn5p9duOQ4wQzEK5A&index=3 "Grapevine Fires" groove breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZfNWJm-6X0 Jason Rig Rundown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5NLLVyCLtU&t=1s&pp=ygUMamFzb24gbWNnZXJy Jason Plays "Crooked Teeth" from Plans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCilZm6ZEZo&pp=ygUMamFzb24gbWNnZXJy Instagram: @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, we discuss navigating band dynamics. A touchy subject no doubt, but we discuss how we've tried to navigate awkward conversations about commitments to rehearsals and gigs, to organising calendars for dates. How have you gone about this with your bands? Let us know on our instagram - @countusinpodcast Dont forget to rate and share this episode if you've enjoyed it. "You're On Fire" by Ali Rice: https://open.spotify.com/track/6YibqNgzTou7LdCBrflhAs?si=8ce9c25aecca4e51 Matt - @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie - @jamiejoinermusic Harry - @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this weeks episode, we talk about dealing with uncertainty. Being working drummers, we all encounter uncertainty all too often. From not knowing when the next gig will come in, not knowing what to practice, what bit of gear to buy and everything in between. It makes a tough business feel even tougher. We're all in it together though and if you have a that uneasy feeling of uncertainty, get in touch are share your stories with us on our instagram - @countusinpodcast - we'd love to chat about them! Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode we discuss all our experiences in growing our originals bands. Reminiscing about our very first originals bands, all the way to our most recent experiences with our current projects. Have you been a part of an originals project and experienced something similar? Or have you found any of these tips useful with your current projects? Let us know on our Instagram - @countusinpodcast Check out Harry's band Digsby's new album "Death of the Party" here: Get tickets for their album show in Bristol here: https://www.headfirstbristol.co.uk/whats-on/hen-and-chicken/fri-27-mar-digsby-146909#e146909 Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, we give you some tips and tricks for your first gigs. These are the kind of things that we've learnt the hard way through experience, like having no hi hat clutch or drum rug. So we hope that we can save you the trouble. Are there any tips and tricks we missed? or have we reminded you about your first gig or the first time you forgot your drum rug? Let us know on Instagram - @countusinpodcast Links Mentioned in this episode: Montgomery Slacks new single: https://open.spotify.com/track/3FJxCkAQxIIzdMj3mGiJmT?si=080472a2f5734a09 Digsby Album Pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/digsby/death-of-the-party: Tickets for Digsby Album Launch: https://hdfst.uk/e146909 Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
We're back! Thank you to everyone that listened and shared the podcast in 2025. We took some time over Christmas and the beginning of January to regroup and talk about what we want to do with our drumming and of course, the podcast in 2026. This weeks episode is about looking back at our 2025 goals and reflecting on if we achieved them or not, and it was BRUTAL! We're looking forward to 2026 and thank you for the continued support! Please leave a 5 star review on Spotify and wherever you get your podcast and share this episode! Instagram: @countusinpodast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, Matt and Harry discuss making recording drums more accessible. We discuss affordable microphones and interfaces that are ideal for starting and ways in which you can get yourself started in the world of recording. It can feel very overwhelming at first, but it’s much easier than you think to get started. Interested in getting into recording? Check out the gear we recommended below. Behringer 4 Channel Interface - https://www.thomann.co.uk/behringer_umc404hd.htm?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=1581403918&gbraid=0AAAAADuDMCUs4tr2aNZlY06LDQSH4Z0UY&gclid=Cj0KCQiArt_JBhCTARIsADQZaylpUNHJEoggohFJ-tC9D8kzCh7U8H15Wrpse7tNm_XQsSKrw5arLEwaAgVMEALw_wcB Audio Technica AT2020 Overhead/Condensor Mic (We use this to record episodes! - https://www.andertons.co.uk/audio-technica-at2020-condenser-mic/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20740064305&gbraid=0AAAAADujoUqnDsY1t_xdo6hQ6UKT_6pfZ&gclid=Cj0KCQiArt_JBhCTARIsADQZaynPU1tuBjCMZ4C6e6WDObeYxIXe4PLXl4IsK_qyP2uwm6yOG7-rc54aAjA0EALw_wcB Behringer Drums Mics (full kit pack) - https://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Behringer-BC1200-7-Piece-Drum-Microphone-Set/3R3A?origin=product-ads&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22247589480&gbraid=0AAAAAD_kjLS0gO8mPDe6I2IQ7Z8s4-LrB&gclid=Cj0KCQiArt_JBhCTARIsADQZayl6kRUgm8neXVJuad0DQJgZdkL_UGiRW80pbRBRxeTHvZkvIi33ewkaAvWuEALw_wcB Instagram: @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this weeks episodes, Matt and Jamie discuss their personal development as a teacher and what they have learned in their years of teaching. Instagram: @countinspodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
In this episode, we catch up with Matt about this years The Drummers Odyssey Camp and get some highlights, we talk bass drum heads and what we’re using and talk about plans for the remaining episodes of the year! Instagram: @countusinpodcast Matt: @matt_lacey_drummer Jamie: @jamiejoinermusic Harry: @harryplaysdrums Support the show Buy Me A Coffee Link: buymeacoffee.com/countusinpodcast
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