Canicross Conversations

It’s just Louise and Michelle for this one a quick catch-up before Canicross Conversations breaks for the summer. In this episode: Season five is a wrap and season six kicks off Friday 4th September Some brilliant stats: 75,000 downloads, 34,000 listeners, and 215 episodes released since launch with only 25% of listeners based in the UK A shoutout to the most-downloaded episodes this year, including Dr Juliet McGratton on running through menopause, Emily on canicross with a nervous dog, Annika and Felicia from the Swedish and Danish teams, and the Trailbreak episode Louise and Michelle’s own favourite episodes to record, including the ones with Emma and with Janie the Vet A call for support for JD, who’s running the length of Sri Lanka in October for her rescue and vet centre charity ideas welcome for how listeners and clubs could get involved A search for podcast sponsorship, plus an open call for guest suggestions (dog-related or not!) for season six Follow along over the break: Canicross Conversations is on Instagram and Facebook. You can also find Michelle at Miles with Michelle and Louise at Studio44 Pilates, where she’s sharing regular exercises to build leg strength and help keep you injury-free before canicross season starts back up. Back on Friday 4th September have a great summer!

This week Louise and Michelle are joined by Emma Stuart, farm animal vet, ultra runner, dog owner, and the woman behind @the_running_vet on Instagram. Emma spends her days working with cattle and her weekends running big miles through fields full of them, so she's the perfect person to answer the question every runner and dog walker has thought at some point: what do I actually do when I'm surrounded by cows? Emma breaks down the psychology of cattle behaviour — why most "aggressive" cows are actually just curious youngsters, why running through a field is the worst thing you can do, and the one situation where you should never hesitate to move fast. She also talks through how to read a herd, when to let your dog off the lead (and when absolutely not to), the difference between dairy and beef cattle, and shares a genuinely hair-raising story or two from her own running and farming life. If you've ever stood at a gate with your heart in your mouth, wondering whether to walk on or turn back, this episode is for you. Meet Emma Emma is a farm animal vet based in the Lake District, an ultra runner of 7–8 years, and owner of two collies, Moss and Skye, the latter a rescue with a remarkable turnaround story. She swapped small animal practice for farm work because she couldn't bear seeing pets frightened of her, and found she loved working with cattle instead. Why cows aren't actually out to get you Most of the cattle runners and walkers encounter in fields are young, curious animals rather than aggressive ones. Emma explains that a lot of "intimidating" behaviour is simply cattle investigating something new — which is exactly why a 600kg animal jogging over to say hello can still feel (and be) dangerous. The one group to genuinely watch for Cows with very young calves are the exception. These mothers can be properly protective, and the golden rule is simple: never put yourself between a cow and her calf, even if it means a long detour. Why running through a field is the worst move Cattle see fast movement far more easily than slow movement. Running through a field is more likely to draw a herd's attention and get them chasing — not out of aggression, but because a good sprint looks like the most exciting thing that's happened to them all day. Walking slowly and steadily is always the safer option. What to do if they do come for you Stop. Turn. Make yourself big. Shout. Emma's advice runs counter to instinct — most people want to get away as fast as possible — but standing your ground and making noise is what actually gets a herd to back off. The exception: if it's a single aggressive cow with a calf, that's the one time to run. Dogs change everything A dog on a lead, walked calmly and kept close, is far safer around cattle than one running loose and panicking — loose, frightened dogs can send a herd scattering unpredictably. Whether to let a dog off the lead depends entirely on knowing how that individual dog will react; Emma's two dogs behave completely differently in the same situation. Reading the herd A cow chewing the cud is a relaxed cow. It's one of the simplest, most reliable signs that a herd isn't bothered by you at all. Dairy vs beef, and the bulls to actually worry about Dairy cattle are used to people daily and are generally unbothered. Beef cattle with calves are the ones to be more cautious around. Dairy bulls are the one class of animal Emma is genuinely wary of, and the reason they're legally not allowed on public footpaths. Bonus: horses Even a vet and farm animal expert admits horses are a different story entirely: a topic for a future episode. Follow Emma on Instagram

Louise and Michelle chat to Katie Parker and Jack Avery from Pickles Pet Pantry, who share the story behind their independent pet shop and how their own experiences as dog owners shaped the business and canicross club they wanted to build. At the heart of the conversation is Fred, their rescue dog. When he first arrived, he was energetic, unpredictable and highly reactive, making everyday walks a challenge. Katie and Jack explain how patience, training and discovering canicross helped channel Fred's energy, build his confidence and strengthen their relationship. Today, he's a much calmer and happier dog who loves racing. Whether you've adopted a rescue dog, live with a reactive dog, or are simply curious about canicross, this episode is full of honest experiences and encouragement. In this episode we discuss: Why Katie and Jack started Pickles Pet Pantry. Meeting Fred, and the realities of owning a reactive dog. How a behaviourist told them there was nothing they could do to help with Fred. How canicross gave Fred a positive outlet for his energy. Advice for anyone considering canicross with their own dog. https://www.picklespetpantry.com/

Louise and Michelle are joined by Courtney Goodright, a Canine Behaviourist and Training Advisor at Battersea. Courtney pulls back the curtain on what really happens behind the scenes at one of the country's best-known rescues, from the moment a dog arrives to the day it goes home. We learn why strays are on the rise, what those first three decompression days look like, and how the team works out what makes each individual dog tick. There's a beautiful success story about a shut-down foster dog who completely blossomed, an honest chat about what reactivity actually means, and a lovely thread running right through it all: every dog needs a job, and that is exactly where canicross comes in. Warm, fascinating, and genuinely useful whether you're thinking about adopting or just want to understand your own dog a little better. Timings 00:00 – Meet Courtney Her role splits two ways: hands-on behaviour work with the more complex dogs, and training and mentoring the staff, volunteers and fosterers. No two days look the same. 01:55 – Three sites, 160 dogs Brands Hatch, London and Old Windsor each have their own strengths, from rural space to on-site clinics. Battersea is completely charity funded with no government money, caring for around 160 dogs at a time. 03:43 – Why dogs end up at Battersea A big rise in strays, the financial squeeze meaning people can no longer afford their pets, the knock-on from COVID-era ownership, and life changes like new babies and returning to the office. Courtney also touches on the new Renters' Rights Bill and what it could mean for keeping dogs in rented homes. 05:35 – History helps, but it can cut both ways Why a dog with no known background isn't always harder to place, and how a long list of "can't live with this, can't cope with that" can become a barrier of its own. 06:36 – Behaviour modification plans How the team builds a plan for any flagged dog so they can see the behaviour for themselves, make progress, and then be completely honest with new owners about what's been done and what they'll need to take on. 10:03 – The first three days Why every new arrival gets a decompression period to settle, build bonds with their care group, and start showing the team their likes, dislikes and motivations before anything formal begins. 11:11 – The assessment process Formal handling, play with and without toys, dog-to-dog assessments and more, always at the dog's pace. If something flags up, they pause, train, and set the dog up to succeed. 12:04 – The success story that says it all A foster dog from abroad who arrived so shut down they could only use a single lead on his collar. Weeks of patience, tiny glimmers of joy, paddock zoomies, and eventually a completely different dog whose personality shone. Have the tissues ready. 14:53 – Matching dogs and owners (a bit like a dating site) It starts online with a form about your lifestyle and what you're looking for, then the rehomers match you on what suits you both. The takeaway: get registered early, because you could be matched before a dog even hits the website. 19:03 – Going home and aftercare Check-in calls, a settling-in window, and aftercare cases that stay open to 28 days, with the Behaviour Advice Service on hand for the more complex dogs. Plus a gentle reminder to keep those first few weeks calm and quiet. 21:43 – Early teething issues Toileting indoors, struggling when left, and behaviours spiking at home after so much change. All normal, all manageable with calm, fun and plenty of enrichment. 23:48 – What "reactive" really means Spoiler: it's not always fear. It can be frustration, excitement, or a mix that shifts moment to moment. Courtney explains why reactivity is a spectrum, not a fixed label. 25:21 – Prey drive and what to do with it Why you often can't train it out, and how to redirect that genetic desire instead, using a flirt pole, a long line or a favourite toy so the dog has a productive outlet for the chase. 27:09 – Why every dog needs a job The bit canicrossers will love. From Labradors and search games to the Shih Tzu nobody expected to love a toy, Courtney explains how giving any dog a job builds focus, engagement and relationship, and how that's exactly what canicross delivers. 29:44 – Other jobs beyond running Agility, scent work, mantrailing and constructive toy play for the dogs who aren't built for the trails. 32:08 – The power of the pack Louise and Michelle share how their canicross packs look out for nervous and reactive dogs, including a shout-out to Rosie, and how the right group can help a worried dog just keep going. 35:17 – Breed trends and social media Why Battersea is seeing a wave of French Bulldogs right now, and the good and bad sides of social media for a rescue. 36:05 – A canicross dog on the web right now Meet Sonny, a leggy, athletic German Shepherd Courtney reckons would make a brilliant canicross partner. 37:57 – Honest advice on adopting a reactive dog Think long term, be realistic about your lifestyle, and know that with the right time and understanding it can be the most rewarding relationship you'll ever have. 38:15 – Where to find help Battersea's rehoming gallery, free at-a-glance advice packages, and the Behaviour Advice Service, a completely free service open to anyone with a question about their dog. Rehome or donate: Battersea website ( battersea.org.uk ) Looking for a canicross dog? Ask about Sonny, the German Shepherd mentioned in this episode

Louise and Michelle are joined by Jules, Team Coordinator for the Lost Dogs Tracking Network, Southern Counties. Jules talks through how she went from dog training and truffle-hunting to coordinating a team of scent-tracking dogs across Wiltshire, Hampshire, Berkshire and beyond. It's a genuinely fascinating (and at times emotional) listen covering how tracking dogs work, what to do in the first crucial hours after losing a dog, and why a cheap fabric collar in a sandwich bag could be the difference between finding your dog quickly or not at all. Equal parts practical advice and brilliant dog stories. Timings 00:00 – How Jules got started From dog training and horses, to truffle-hunting dogs, to a "very naughty spaniel" who needed a job — Jules's route into lost dog tracking via Claire Brown, founder of the original West Yorkshire team. 01:18 – Southern Counties coverage Jules is based near Andover, covering Wiltshire, Hampshire, Berkshire, parts of Surrey, and sometimes as far as Oxford and Gloucestershire. The network now has 11 teams nationally, with the goal of nobody being more than an hour from a trained tracking dog. 03:34 – How the dogs actually track The difference between scent work (find this specific trained thing) and lost-dog tracking (match this scent, in a constantly changing environment). Jules compares it to medical detection dogs — same underlying skill, different application. 06:23 – The scent article problem Why a single scent item (collar, blanket, bed) is usually easy in a one-dog household — and genuinely difficult with multiple dogs, especially if they've all been on the same walk. Includes the story of a successful track using a Christmas coat that had been in storage for months. 08:22 – The first 48 hours Jules's team don't usually track immediately — most dogs return to the loss point on their own. Key advice: stay at the loss point, post once on social media (not repeatedly), register with DogLost and Drone SAR, and leave a worn item of clothing to draw the dog back in. 10:46 – Owner panic and dogs returning to the car Louise shares her own "anger to panic" experience, and Jules confirms it's extremely common for dogs to return to the loss point or the car — often while panicked owners are out searching elsewhere. 13:04 – How tracking dogs signal they're close A brilliant bit on individual dog "tells": Jules's collie freezes and stares from a distance, her spaniel switches from straight tracking to busy side-to-side hunting, and a team Labrador rears up to air-scent. 16:38 – Catching a dog once it's found Often it's simply sitting quietly and letting the dog calm down enough to recognise its owner's scent — sometimes taking 40 minutes to an hour. Includes the story of a dog found after 10 days, who later joined the team as a tracking dog himself. 17:00 – How lost dogs survive Water from streams and puddles, foraged fruit, and — for the hunting breeds — the odd self-caught pheasant or rabbit. Useful context for ground searchers working out where a dog might be. 19:01 – The harder stories Jules is honest that outcomes are roughly 50/50 between reunions and dogs found deceased, usually from road or rail incidents — and why giving owners closure matters just as much as a happy ending. Also covers how individual dogs are matched to searches based on temperament and likely outcome. 23:09 – "She's never done this before" Why owner honesty about recall and likely behaviour (hunting vs genuinely bolting in fear) changes the whole shape of a search — and why nobody should be embarrassed about a dog running off. 25:49 – What makes a good tracking dog Trainability and temperament over breed — the team includes spaniels, labradors, münsterländers, collies, an Australian shepherd, and even terriers. Training takes roughly a year to 18 months through a structured three-level course with annual CPD. 33:39 – Kit talk: harnesses and hi-vis Why standard canicross harnesses can choke a tracking dog (head down, pulling hard) and the benefits of a lower-sitting harness. Plus the now-famous detail from meeting Jules at Goodwoof — hi-vis coats with a different colour on each side, so handlers can tell at a glance which direction their dog went. 40:08 – GPS trackers vs AirTags Jules's clear advice: get a proper GPS tracker (the team recommends Tractive), not an AirTag, which relies on nearby Apple devices and is useless in rural areas. Includes the story of a dog missing for 12 days over New Year whose AirTag never pinged once. 42:08 – Microchips and collars A reminder to keep microchip details up to date — many dogs are found with no collar (slipped it in the house or garden) and an out-of-date chip means rescuers can't reach the owner at all. 43:52 – Final advice Stay where you are. Don't shout and call repeatedly. Get help and split up sensibly. Try not to panic — and if your dog does go missing, it's not a reflection on you as an owner. https://northk9.co.uk/LDTN/ https://www.southerncountieslostdogtracking.com/

This week Louise and Michelle are joined by SJ, founder of Tails and Trails, a canicross club based near Ludlow in South Shropshire. SJ's journey into canicross began not from a love of racing, but from a simple need: helping her rescue dog Rosie thrive. What started as a behavioural tool recommended by Dogs Trust became a decade-long passion, a business, and a thriving community. SJ talks honestly about starting with the wrong kit, the joy of introducing beginners to the sport, and why canicross can be genuinely life-changing for reactive dogs. Timings 00:00 Introduction: Michelle introduces SJ and her rescue dog Rosie 00:33 SJ's background: PE teacher, running, and her first dog Molly the mad cocker spaniel 01:37 How Rosie came into SJ's life in 2014 via her sister at a London vet's 03:43 Dogs Trust behaviourists suggest canicross as an outlet for Rosie's energy and reactivity 04:12 SJ's first experience of canicross — starting from scratch with no prior knowledge 05:45 First run with Rosie at the Salisbury rehoming centre — and the moment she "was absolutely off" 06:20 Kit chat: SJ's honest admission about not having the right kit to start with 08:57 Rosie at 13: she's hung up her canicross harness 12:33 Moving to South Shropshire two years ago and using canicross to find friends and build community 13:51 Setting up Tails and Trails: from casual group in Dorset to a proper canicross club with her coaching qualification. 15:10 Summer running: early starts, shaded forest runs, dog-friendly water spots, and keeping the community together with guest speakers 16:50 Racing: SJ's experience at CaniX and Canicross Midlands events — taking the group together so no one feels intimidated 18:18 The range of dogs in her group: Vizslas, Labradors, Golden Retrievers, a Dachshund… and a marathon runner who wants to learn to run with his dog properly 21:20 Why canicross works so well for reactive dogs 25:31 What's next: restarting beginners groups in September, plus exciting news about a retail store selling Non-Stop Dogwear at the farm shop Tails and Trails website 📍 Based near Ludlow, South Shropshire

Louise and Michelle are joined by Dr Janey Lowes — a vet from the North East of England who, at 26, packed up her life and moved to Sri Lanka to help street dogs. What started as a year-long volunteering trip has become a decade-long mission, a team of 70, and Sri Lanka's only emergency hospital for street dogs. Janey shares the story of how WECare Worldwide grew from just her, a friend, and a tuk-tuk driver, to treating over 35,000 animals in the south of Sri Lanka. We talk about rabies, neutering programmes, rehoming, the economic crisis, and why putting dogs back on the street is often the kindest thing to do. And then there's the big one — The Dog Jog. Starting 12th October, Janey is running 600km from the top of Sri Lanka to the bottom, over 20–25 days, to raise over £1 million for a brand new hospital and vet nursing training centre. She's never run a half marathon. She's training in 37-degree heat and 94% humidity. And she is absolutely doing it anyway. Timings: 01:21 How a surf holiday in Sri Lanka changed everything — and why Janey never came home 03:48 The scale of the problem — 3 million street dogs, 1 for every 8 people 07:28 From 14 dogs in her house to Sri Lanka's only emergency hospital for street dogs 09:56 How WECare grew from 3 people and a tuk-tuk to a team of 70 13:47 Why street dogs don't always need a sofa — and why that took Janey a while to accept 20:50 The fundraising reality — nearly £1 million a year, and how they raise it 29:02 The Dog Jog — 600km, 25 days, starting 12th October 31:37 Training in 37°C heat, 94% humidity, and stopping every 100m to say hi to dogs 36:56 The mental challenge — and why having community support matters so much 44:59 Where to follow Janey and support the cause Find Janey: Instagram: @JaneyTheVet Website: wecareworldwide.org.uk Want to support the Dog Jog or get involved? Get in touch and we'll figure something out together, especially if you fancy joining virtually in October!

Michelle and Louise are joined by Mick for another real-life canicross story, this time with his three dogs: Rodney, Amber and Betsy. Mick shares how he came back to running after years away from it, starting with a muddy dog challenge and gradually finding his way into proper canicross kit, races and longer-distance adventures. Listeners will hear how each of Mick’s dogs has a completely different approach to running. Rodney, a standard poodle, is the powerful, enthusiastic runner who has taken on ultras; Amber prefers a steadier pace and has needed a more thoughtful approach; and Betsy, the working cocker spaniel, is stepping into longer distances with plenty of spaniel energy. The conversation covers beginner mistakes, choosing the right harness and bungee setup, the value of learning from other canicrossers, and how different dogs may need different kit, distances and expectations. Mick also talks about running ultras in Wales, preparing for future events, and making decisions as dogs get older or come back from injury. Michelle and Louise also offer practical advice on strength training, core work and consistency, especially for runners taking on trail and ultra distances. This episode is full of relatable moments for anyone who started canicross without knowing everything, learned along the way, and now runs because their dog makes it fun. Timings 0.20 – introducing Mick, Rodney, Amber and Betsy 1.04 – Mick’s running background and returning to running after school 2.01 – starting canicross with Amber and discovering she did not love it 3.12 – learning about proper canicross kit 4.17 – Mick’s first canicross race experience and realising the kit was not right 5.14 – upgrading to waist belts, bungee leads and better harnesses 7.12 – Rodney’s harness journey and finding what works 8.12 – standard poodles, muscle tone and Rodney’s enthusiasm for racing 9.11 – Mick’s first proper canicross race with Murphy 10.14 – vet-supported canicross after injury and building strength safely 10.55 – hydrotherapy, older dogs and keeping them supple 11.40 – running two dogs together 12.43 – how dogs motivate and compete with each other 13.21 – Mick’s ultra experiences with Rodney 14.57 – preparing better for a second ultra 16.10 – gradually building distance 17.10 – strength training, core work and consistency 19.00 – Louise’s advice on squats, lunges, calf raises and getting professional guidance 20.19 – why strength work matters as runners get older 22.11 – Mick’s goal for his next ultra 22.40 – switching from Rodney to Betsy for longer-distance plans 24.08 – Betsy’s first half marathon 25.08 – gundog training, disc dogs and other activities 27.01 – future races with Sporting Paws and local events 28.04 – adjusting expectations as dogs get older 29.49 – where to follow Mick online 30.21 – why Mick prefers running with dogs Resources mentioned Sporting Paws Wild Deer Half Marathon Loggerheads, Wales Brecon ultra Preston Disc Dogs K9 Toss and Fetch Links mentioned Instagram: Chorley Canicrosser

Michelle and Louise are joined by Lyndsy for an honest conversation about canicross, chronic illness and redefining what it means to be a runner. Lyndsy shares how she went from a love-hate relationship with running to finding a completely new sense of enjoyment through canicross with her Bernedoodle Indy. After years of feeling pressure around pace, personal bests and being at the back of the pack, running with Indy helped her discover a more supportive and joyful way to move. Their partnership has taken them from first-session nerves and downhill tumbles to weekly social runs and races. The episode also explores Lyndsy's experience of living with endometriosis, including the long road to diagnosis, the symptoms that were dismissed or mistaken for other conditions, and how chronic pain can affect exercise, confidence and everyday life. Lyndsy explains why movement can help, but also why listening to your body and adapting your plans matters. This is a powerful episode for anyone who has ever felt they are “not a runner”, anyone managing a chronic condition, or anyone who needs reminding that canicross is not just about speed, distance or results. Lyndsy forgot to mention in the episode that one thing that's been really important for her has been finding a Canicross belt that she's comfortable with. Obviously a lot of the pain caused by endometriosis is focused around the stomach and with the bloating and soreness that comes with it sometimes even the waistband of your clothes can be painful. So she would advise anyone with endometriosis to try a few different styles of belt to find one that works for them. Timings 0.00 – introducing Lyndsy and Indy 0.34 – meeting Indy the Bernedoodle 2.20 – Lyndsy's relationship with running 3.40 – discovering canicross through Sporting Paws 4.36 – first canicross session and falling in love with it 5.37 – becoming “a runner” 6.35 – why canicross feels different from traditional running 7.49 – hills, confidence and running with a big dog 9.10 – Lyndsy's endometriosis diagnosis journey 10.39 – what endometriosis is 13.20 – symptoms, A&E visits and being misdiagnosed 15.27 – how endometriosis affects running 16.18 – adapting canicross on difficult days 17.30 – how dogs help motivation with chronic illness 18.30 – surgery, treatment and symptom management 20.09 – research and potential improvements in diagnosis 21.30 – symptoms to look out for 22.10 – symptom checkers and GP conversations 23.06 – how to advocate for yourself at the doctor 26.59 – the wellbeing benefits of canicross 28.26 – why you do not have to be fast to belong 33.12 – what Lindsay wishes she had known earlier 35.47 – why open conversations matter 36.08 – canicross as hope, movement and fun Resources mentioned Period symptom checker Lyndsy recommends the following Instagram accounts for general information on a range of menstrual health conditions and how to approach conversations with your doctor: https://www.instagram.com/gynaegeek?igsh=MThmemdia3U5cWFxeg== https://www.instagram.com/drnighatarif?igsh=MTEzd3V2eXd3ejdjYw== For details about what endometriosis is and to find sources of support - https://www.endometriosis-uk.org/ Finally, after our chat, Lyndsy looked for any information about endometriosis and women's sport and found this article which touches on some of what we discussed - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/56276626 And this one about endometriosis and running - https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/health/a43464680/endometriosis-and-exercise/

Michelle and Louise are joined by Clare Thompson and her rescue dog Loki, whose first season together has been full of surprises, progress and plenty of learning. Clare moved from ultra running into canicross, first with her rescue dog Rex, and then with Loki, a young, high-energy pointer who arrived underweight, inexperienced and in need of confidence. What began as a gentle, low-pressure introduction to racing soon became a standout season, with Clare and Loki finishing second nationally and putting in an expression of interest for Poland. But this conversation is about much more than results. Clare talks openly about working with the dog in front of you, building trust, managing race environments, decompression after events and why canicross can be such a powerful outlet for rescue dogs. As a sports therapist, Clare also brings valuable insight into the human side of the sport. The episode explores why strength training matters so much for canicross runners, especially when adding the extra force of a strong pulling dog. From squats and deadlifts to core work, upper body strength and “snack exercises”, Clare explains how small, consistent habits can help reduce injury risk and support better running. There is also a fascinating discussion around pain, mindset, stress, confidence, comfort zones and why canicross can be just as important for mental wellbeing as it is for fitness. Whether you race competitively, run socially, have a rescue dog, or are just canicross-curious, this episode is full of encouragement, practical advice and honest reflections. Timings 0.31 – introducing Clare and Loki 0.56 – how Clare found canicross after ultra running 2.52 – finding Loki in rescue and taking a chance on a high-energy dog 4.01 – building Loki up slowly and starting with short course races 5.29 – how Loki copes with the race environment 6.23 – overtaking, focus and confidence around other dogs 8.43 – not rushing rescue dogs into more than they are ready for 9.21 – moving from ultra running to fast 5k canicross 13.53 – Clare and Loki’s national result 15.02 – putting in an expression of interest for Poland 15.42 – working with different dogs and different levels of drive 18.17 – Clare’s background as a sports therapist 19.28 – why strength training matters for canicross runners 20.52 – squats, deadlifts, single-leg work and upper body strength 22.25 – core work and loaded carries 23.38 – balancing running and strength sessions 25.00 – helping injured runners take responsibility for rehab 28.38 – snack exercises and fitting strength into everyday life 31.14 – pain, discomfort and the brain’s role in injury 36.38 – books on the body, stress and pain 37.27 – international inspiration and watching canicross abroad 38.27 – canicross as friendship, fresh air and mental wellbeing 40.24 – canicross for dogs who cannot be off lead 43.00 – Loki’s progress and getting stronger for next season Resources mentioned The Body Keeps the Score When the Body Says No Canicross Midlands Canix BSSF Cani-Fit Louise’s strength training blog after the London Marathon Previous episode with Lindsay from Cani-Fit

Michelle and Louise are joined by Lucy J Morgan from Wales, a professional musician, ultra runner and member of Dexy's Midnight Runners, who has recently discovered the world of canicross with her dog Tedi Bêr. Although Lucy has been running with Tedi for years, including through mountain training for ultramarathons, she only recently realised that what they were doing had a name, a community and a whole sport behind it. Lucy shares how Tedi Bêr, a 40kg New Zealand Huntaway, has become her loyal mountain-running partner, helping her feel safer, more motivated and more connected to the outdoors. The episode also explores Tedi's first canicross race at Red Warrior Margam, where the pair chose the 20k distance and went on to win the women’s race. Michelle and Louise offer supportive advice on belts, passing other runners, using commands and understanding the canicross season, especially when temperatures rise. Lucy also shares the moving story behind her upcoming memorial walk on 25 May, following the footsteps of three boys who became lost in the Brecon Beacons in 1904. Through music, memory and mountain rescue fundraising, this episode brings together canicross, endurance, Welsh landscape, companionship and community. Timings 1.02 – Lucy’s running background and discovering canicross 2.17 – Tedi Bêr's longest training run of 33 miles 2.45 – Meet Tedi Bêr, the New Zealand Huntaway 4.26 – Starting out with a lead, waist belt and harness 5.30 – Lucy’s teal canicross kit setup 6.18 – Why a canicross-specific belt can help with a strong dog 8.35 – Tedi Bêr’s size and power at 40kg 9.19 – Running early in the Welsh mountains 10.12 – Trying a first event to see how Tedi coped 10.48 – Red Warrior Margam and choosing the 20k distance 11.43 – Lucy and Tedi’s first race experience 12.12 – Learning canicross race etiquette 14.13 – Feeling safer running with a dog 15.09 – How Tedi helped Lucy through a tough ultra training day 17.15 – Long runs, water and Tedi's endurance 17.50 – Canicross ultras and longer-distance options 18.23 – Lucy and Tedi winning their first women’s canicross race 19.10 – Tedi’s interest in sheep and future training plans 21.10 – Understanding the canicross season 21.45 – Why dogs should not run in the heat 22.38 – Summer alternatives, cani-hiking and cooling down 23.31 – Finding races through the canicross calendar 24.10 – Why longer distances may suit Lucy and Tedi 25.23 – Lucy’s ultra running background 26.30 – Women, endurance and the book Ultra women 27.32 – Lucy’s memorial walk project in Wales 29.31 – Raising money for Western Beacons Mountain Rescue 31.27 – Lucy’s life as a professional musician 33.40 – Touring with Dexy's Midnight Runners 34.30 – Lucy’s questions about handler etiquette 35.17 – How to pass safely in canicross events 36.20 – Commands, focus and working with distractions 37.13 – Downhill control and using a “behind” command 38.25 – Where to find Lucy online Links mentioned Red Warrior Margam Cani Trail Podcast episode 2 on running dogs in the heat Podcast episode 162 with the authors of Ultra Women JustGiving page for Lucy’s mountain rescue fundraiser Lucy's Big Walk Promo Video Dexy's Midnight Runners

Louise and Michelle are joined by Stuart Nuttall, who shares his journey from school cross-country and triathlon into the world of flyball, canicross and bikejor. After years of endurance sport, including triathlon and Ironman training, Stuart found that dog sports offered a new way to stay active while spending more time with his family and dogs. Stuart talks about meeting Louise at Crufts, getting into canicross through off-season fitness work for flyball, and how his young dog Maverick has opened up a whole new set of goals. The conversation explores the crossover between flyball and canicross, including focus, passing, drive, confidence, strength and conditioning, and the importance of building fitness gradually. There are plenty of relatable moments, from buying “just one more” bit of kit, to Maverick chewing through his harness on the start line of his first race. Stuart reflects on imposter syndrome, learning from others, looking after paw health, and why he sees himself as the weaker part of the human-dog team. This is a great episode for anyone curious about combining different dog sports, starting canicross with a young dog, or simply enjoying getting outside and being active with their dog. Timings 0.00 – Introducing Stuart and how he met Louise at Crufts 0.36 – Stuart’s early canicross experience and running with his dogs 1.42 – From school cross-country to rugby league and returning to running 3.08 – Getting peer-pressured into his first triathlon 4.14 – Representing GB in duathlon and triathlon events 5.05 – Why coaching and being open to learning matters 6.10 – Moving away from triathlon and towards family dog sports 7.36 – Using running to help keep the dogs fit for flyball 8.51 – What flyball is and how Stuart first discovered it 10.56 – Setting up a flyball team and competing at Crufts 12.27 – How travelling for flyball changed Stuart’s view of canicross events 14.12 – Maverick’s breeding, drive and introduction to sport 15.58 – Why canicross is not “just running with your dog” 19.01 – Commands, passing dogs and the crossover with flyball focus 20.40 – Why Stuart was most proud of Maverick’s control around walkers and loose dogs 21.24 – Stuart and Maverick’s first canicross race with Trail Dog Events 22.50 – The start-line harness chewing incident 24.19 – Flyball season, canicross season and fitting it all in 24.59 – Discovering the speed of canicross with a strong dog 26.17 – Stuart’s goals for the next canicross season 27.03 – Building Maverick’s distance and endurance gradually 28.08 – Strength and conditioning for injury prevention 28.22 – Paw care, nail care and learning what Maverick needs 30.07 – Imposter syndrome at races and comparing dogs, kit and speed 31.11 – Understanding the power of purpose-bred canicross dogs 33.41 – Why the human needs to train too 34.04 – Will Maverick choose flyball or canicross? 34.56 – Giving Maverick the right opportunities 35.20 – Where to follow Stuart and Maverick online 35.57 – Future duathlon plans and whether a triathlon could happen 37.01 – Final thoughts: canicross can be whatever you want it to be Links mentioned Check out our episodes with Toby Lambert and Lindsay from Cani-Fit Stuart on Instagram: @stunuttall Maverick on Instagram: @negativeghostrider31

Michelle Mortimer and Louise Humphrey are joined by Lindsay, founder of Cani-Fit and a four-time British canicross champion. We chat about how the sport has grown and what really matters when it comes to training dogs and humans well. Lindsay shares how she found canicross in the early days, when there was very little support available in Scotland, and explains how that experience shaped the way she now coaches thousands of runners and dog owners through Cani-Fit. Lindsay talks openly about the early mistakes she made, what she has learned from working with all kinds of dogs, and why training should always be adapted to the individual dog in front of you. She also explains the difference between training recreationally and preparing for championship level competition, offering useful insights on intervals, hill work, race preparation, recovery, and why 'too much too soon' is one of the biggest mistakes beginners make. The episode also explores the family side of the sport, as Lindsay shares how her 10-year-old son is beginning his own canicross journey in a way that keeps things fun, social, and age-appropriate. It is a lovely reminder that canicross is not only about racing, but also about teamwork and community. Whether you are completely new to running with dogs or already immersed in the sport, this episode is packed with thoughtful takeaways. Timings 0.00 – Introduction to Lindsay, founder of Cani-Fit and four-time British champion 1.09 – How Lindsay first got into canicross through sled dog sports 3.13 – What the early days of canicross looked like in Scotland 5.00 – Why she started Cani-Fit and what the first version of the business looked like 8.39 – Did she ever imagine Cani-Fit would grow this much? 10.35 – Building credibility in a sport with no clear governing pathway 13.47 – How Lindsay trains dogs for canicross and keeps them fit through the year 18.39 – How intervals can work effectively with dogs 21.06 – Why repeated hill reps do not make sense for most dogs 22.47 – Training leaders and seeing canicross grow internationally 23.47 – The biggest mistakes beginners make 27.25 – Advice for people brand new to canicross and racing 29.40 – Why many people do canicross without ever wanting to race 31.03 – What Lindsay does differently now compared with when she started 34.28 – Supporting her son as he gets into the sport 38.19 – Why fun, friendships, and enjoyment matter for junior athletes 40.42 – Thoughts on one-day versus two-day events and the future of race accessibility 42.37 – Where canicross is heading in the next few years 46.06 – Quick fire questions 47.52 – Where to find Lindsay and Cani-Fit Links mentioned in the conversation Instagram: @lindsay_canifit Cani-Fit website

Michelle and Louise chat to Ebony from Sporting Paws, a dog trainer, behaviourist, and passionate canicross advocate who has recently organised her very first race in Lancashire. Ebony shares her personal journey into canicross, which began not through competition, but through a desire to reconnect with her dog during a difficult period. What started as simple runs together quickly became something much more powerful, helping both her and her dog rebuild confidence, trust, and enjoyment together. Ebony has built Sporting Paws from the ground up, focusing on making dog sports more accessible, especially for younger people. She offers a refreshing perspective on canicross as a tool for wellbeing, behaviour, and connection, rather than just performance. Ebony talks openly about the challenges of securing permissions for her first race, designing a course, managing logistics, and creating an inclusive, welcoming atmosphere for all abilities. Her first event at Beacon Country Park highlights what canicross is all about: community, encouragement, and shared enjoyment with your dog. This episode is full of inspiration for anyone new to canicross, thinking about entering their first race, or even considering organising an event in their own area. Timings 0.00 – Introduction to Ebony from Sporting Paws 1.05 – How Ebony discovered canicross and rebuilt her bond with her dog 3.30 – Early barriers to racing and accessibility challenges 6.00 – Becoming a dog trainer and founding Sporting Paws 7.30 – Mission to make dog sports accessible for younger people 10.00 – Growth of the Sporting Paws canicross community 11.30 – Organising the first race at Beacon Country Park 14.30 – The realities of race planning and permissions 16.30 – Designing a fun and technical course 18.30 – Feedback from the first event 19.00 – Supporting beginner racers 21.00 – Beach races and upcoming events 23.30 – Expanding races across the North West 24.30 – Lessons learned and future improvements 27.30 – Advice for first-time racers Links Sporting Paws Crosby Beach race Rivington Pike race Pennington Flash event

Dr Juliet McGrattan returns to share expert insight into one of the most misunderstood topics in women’s health: menopause and its impact on running. Drawing on her experience as a former GP, runner, and author of The Runner’s Guide to Menopause, Juliet brings both professional knowledge and lived experience to a conversation that is honest, reassuring, and highly practical. Listeners are guided through what menopause actually means - including the often-overlooked perimenopause phase - and why symptoms can start much earlier than expected. The episode explores how hormonal changes can affect performance, motivation, recovery, and overall enjoyment of running, while reinforcing that every woman’s experience is unique. Importantly, the conversation focuses on what can be done. From adjusting training expectations and embracing slower running, to the importance of strength training, nutrition, and recovery, Juliet offers realistic strategies to help women continue running in a way that supports their changing bodies. There is also a balanced discussion around hormone replacement therapy, helping listeners understand when it may be helpful and why it isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution. This episode is empowering, informative, and inclusive, reminding runners that while menopause may bring changes, it can also be an opportunity to reconnect with running in a more sustainable and enjoyable way. Key takeaways Menopause includes perimenopause and post-menopause, not just one moment in time Symptoms can begin in your 30s or early 40s, often without obvious signs Running may feel harder due to hormonal, physical, and mental changes Losing motivation and performance is common, and normal Slow, steady running (zone 2) supports recovery and endurance Strength training is essential for muscle, bone, and long-term health Nutrition should focus on fuelling, not restriction. Mobility, balance, and core strength are key for injury prevention HRT can be helpful but should be an individual decision Running can still improve mood, identity, and social connection during menopause Timings 0.00 – Introduction and Juliet’s background 2.00 – Why the book was written 4.00 – What menopause actually means (peri, post, timeline) 7.30 – When symptoms can start and why many miss them 10.00 – Misinformation and the menopause “industry” 12.00 – Early signs in running: fatigue, slower pace, loss of motivation 16.00 – Mental health, anxiety, and confidence changes 20.00 – How menopause affects performance and recovery 24.30 – Practical training advice and slowing down 28.00 – Endurance vs speed and why sprint work still matters 33.00 – Injury risk, balance, and coordination 36.00 – Managing hot flushes and temperature when running 41.00 – Benefits of running during menopause 44.00 – Strength training and why it’s essential 48.00 – Nutrition, fuelling, and avoiding under-eating 53.00 – Hormone replacement therapy explained 58.00 – Positives of running through menopause 1:00.00 – Listener questions Resources mentioned The Runner’s Guide to Menopause – Dr Juliet McGrattan Our running podcast episode with Juliet McGrattan Our episode with Juliet on alcohol drjulietmcgrattan.com Juliet McGrattan Instagram 261 Fearless running groups Louise's blog about her menopause journey Photo credit: Endure Creative

Emily shares the story of Max, her timid and easily spooked Weimaraner who initially struggled with wearing a harness or coping with everyday noises such as wind. As a behaviourist, Emily offers valuable insight into working with nervous dogs, including how to approach training without pressure, why progress isn’t always linear, and how small wins can lead to big breakthroughs. The conversation explores practical techniques such as using positive reinforcement, tracking progress through video, and introducing confidence-building experiences in a safe and supportive way. Listeners will also hear how unexpected moments - like running with another dog or entering a first race - can unlock a dog’s potential. Max’s transformation from a fearful dog to a confident canicross racer, even achieving a fourth-place finish, highlights that success doesn’t require a “perfect” dog. This episode is packed with reassurance, actionable advice, and encouragement for anyone navigating life with a sensitive or reactive dog, showing that with the right approach, canicross can be accessible to all. Timings 0.00 – Introduction to Max’s transformation 1.05 – Max’s early behaviour and harness aversion 3.10 – First steps into canicross and early challenges 5.19 – Ruling out pain and understanding behaviour 8.44 – Measuring progress and staying motivated 11.23 – Breakthrough moments in training 12.50 – First race expectations vs reality 14.53 – Emotional finish and confidence growth 18.44 – Running with two dogs and building a team 22.00 – Equipment setup and race strategy 24.52 – Advice for owners of nervous dogs 25.21 – Handling setbacks and real-life challenges 32.20 – Managing reactivity during runs 34.27 – Goals and future plans 36.30 – Favourite race experience Links Episode 17 – Harness aversion Canix UK races Beat the Black Dog Canitrail event Perfect Dog Training ( Instagram , Facebook , TikTok )

Louise and Michelle are joined by Rhys Denham, digital growth manager at Non-stop Dogwear, who shares his journey from UK teacher to living an outdoor-focused life in Norway. Listeners are taken behind the scenes of a life shaped by dogs, adventure and bold decisions, as Rhys explains how he made the leap abroad and embraced a new lifestyle centred around nature and movement. The conversation explores how their Dalmatians, Django and Amber, played a pivotal role in this transformation, including Amber’s recovery from a rare condition and how it influenced their direction. Rhys also shares how photography, community and social media opened unexpected doors, eventually leading them to Norway. A key highlight of the episode is an introduction to skijoring – skiing with your dog – including what it feels like, how to get started and the realities of learning a new sport in a completely different environment. From snowy trails and peaceful landscapes to the challenges of cross-country skiing, this episode gives a refreshing and honest insight into trying something new. Whether you’re curious about skijoring, love canicross or dream of combining dogs with outdoor adventure, this episode is packed with relatable experiences, practical insights and plenty of inspiration. Timings 1.07 – introduction to Rhys and moving to Norway 2.00 – leaving teaching and career change into digital marketing 3.00 – meet the dogs: Django and Amber 4.15 – Amber’s injury and recovery journey 6.00 – photography, social media and new opportunities 7.30 – discovering canicross and community events 10.00 – the move to Norway and job opportunities 14.00 – working in Norway and settling into a new lifestyle 15.00 – travelling across Europe with dogs and cats 18.30 – dogs adapting to snow and cold weather 22.00 – winter kit, booties and paw care 23.00 – introduction to skijoring 25.00 – learning to cross-country ski 31.00 – first skijoring experiences with the dogs 33.00 – speeds, safety and downhill challenges 36.00 – training dogs for skijoring 39.00 – distances and building endurance 41.00 – fitness benefits of skijoring 43.30 – quick fire round Sophia’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sophutch Rhys’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/denham_photos

Louise and Michelle catch up after Louise’s busy few days at Crufts and share a behind-the-scenes look at what the event was really like, from the exhibition floor. From long days on the stand and meeting listeners in person, to fitting first-time runners with canicross kit and chatting to dog lovers curious about the sport, this is a warm, honest and practical conversation about what makes canicross so appealing. They reflect on just how much interest there is in canicross right now, especially from people who already run with their dogs but may not yet realise how much difference the right kit, knowledge and support can make. The episode also explores some of the most common questions beginners ask, including how to get started safely, what equipment you actually need, whether you have to race, and how to build both your own fitness and your dog’s confidence over time. Alongside Louise’s Crufts stories, Michelle shares her experience of coaching total beginners through taster sessions, with advice on stopping, starting, cue words and why going slowly in the early days matters so much. They also talk about finding local clubs, learning trail skills, and remembering that canicross should be fun, flexible and right for both dog and human. To round things off, they share brilliant listener contributions about the things people wish they had known when they first started. Expect encouragement, useful beginner tips, plenty of relatable moments, and a reminder that canicross can be as social, supportive and addictive as you want it to be. Timings 0.00 – Louise is back, Pickle is recovering, and the chat turns to Crufts 0.45 – Why this episode was inspired by conversations on the Crufts stand 2.22 – Best beginner episodes to go back and listen to first 3.04 – Behind the scenes at Crufts and Michelle’s social media role from home 5.00 – What Crufts is really like, from stand setup to five huge halls of dog-related shopping 7.29 – Who brings dogs to Crufts and the rise of dog influencers and ambassadors 9.42 – Louise meets service dogs, handlers and potential future podcast guests 10.04 – What a typical day on the stand looked like and the most popular kit 11.12 – The kinds of questions beginners were asking about canicross 13.02 – Why canicross is easier with some guidance and support 14.43 – Michelle’s top beginner tips from coaching taster sessions 16.03 – Why stop cues come before speed, and how to start introducing commands 17.42 – Why joining a club can make all the difference 18.31 – Teaching the “let’s go” cue and building enthusiasm 19.30 – You do not have to race to enjoy canicross 19.58 – Why getting kit fitted properly is so important 20.10 – Building your dog up slowly in harness, even if they already run 21.49 – Don’t forget your own running fitness and strength work 22.37 – Listener tips: what people wish they had known before starting canicross 24.39 – Wet feet, trail shoes and why mud comes with the territory 26.26 – Why trails are better than roads, and where trail beginners can start 27.06 – Unexpected speed boosts, prey drive and why canicross can become addictive 29.13 – More podcast resources for beginners and kit nerds 30.51 – Final encouragement for anyone thinking about giving canicross a go 32.19 – Louise reflects on meeting listeners at Crufts 33.22 – Final call for listener tips, guest suggestions and sharing the podcast Links mentioned in the episode Episode 37 – an early episode on starting out in canicross Episode 130 – beginner Q&A with Tracey from No Fuss Fill Episode 44 – trail shoes episode with Georgie Episode 27 – Jason Pascoe on harnesses Episode 94 – Jason Pascoe on dog coats Episode 125 – Fredrik, founder of Non-stop, on the brand story Episode 192 – Track and Trail Canine Outfitters on strength-tested harnesses Ultra Women episode(s) with Lily Canter – mentioned as a useful related listen List of canicross clubs around the country – to help listeners find a local club Canicross Conversations Instagram reel – community tips on what people wish they had known Goodwoof – upcoming event Louise mentions

Michelle chats to Seán and Louise from Canicross Ireland. www.canicross-ireland.com www.instagram.com/canicross_ireland https://www.tiktok.com/@canicross.ireland

Louise and Michelle chat to Lucynda, about how canicross has helped her anxious cockerXcollie Sansa. Lucynda is a behaviourist, so we also get an insight into other techniques that might help owners of other anxious dogs. www.dakotaschoiceabt.com