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What happens when two women who refuse to play small sit down with the people actually changing the world — and the ones brave enough to tell the stories most shows won't touch? You get The Get Obsessed Podcast — a show built for people who are hungry for more truth, more transformation, and more proof that the life they're imagining is actually possible. Hosted by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, this is the podcast for dreamers who are done dreaming and ready to move. Julie is a legal advocate, entrepreneur, and mother of four who has spent years studying what it truly takes to succeed. Mika is a fierce business owner and meditation facilitator obsessed with self-development who knows what it takes to turn a life around. Together they bring zero filters, radical honesty, and an unshakable belief that you were built for more than you've been told. We go places other podcasts won't. We have explored the inner world of Scientology — the beliefs, the pull, the controversy, and what it means for the people inside it. We sat with Janelle Brown from TLC's Sister Wives and went deep into what it really looks like to live outside the lines of what society calls normal, to question everything, and to find your own definition of family and freedom. Dr. Christine Marie, featured in the #1 Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, joined us to unpack manipulation, control, and how even the smartest people can be led astray — and more importantly, how to find your way back. These are not comfortable conversations. They are necessary ones. And then there are the guests who show up to teach you how to build. Gary Vaynerchuk on turning obsession into empires. Evan Carmichael on finding your purpose and never letting go. David Meltzer on staying grateful and driven when the odds are stacked against you. Jim Kwik, author of Limitless, on unlocking what your mind is actually capable of. Dr. Laura Berman — Oprah's go-to love expert — on grief, healing, and choosing to keep living fully. Dr. Nadine Macaluso on trauma and reclaiming your story. Dr. Sherrie Campbell on breaking free from toxic relationships for good. Gina DeVee, the woman who inspired this show to exist, on building a life entirely on your own terms. Kim D. from The Real Housewives and Lt. Joe Kenda, the Homicide Hunter, on the stories that shape us. At the heart of every episode is one question: how do we actually live our best life — not the curated version, not the one we perform for others, but the real one? The one that lights us up, challenges us, and makes us feel fully alive. That is what we are building here, one conversation at a time. New episodes every week. Apply to be a guest at www.getobsessedguest.com. Explore everything at www.getobsessedpodcast.com and www.getobsessedpod.com. Reach us at hello@getobsessedmedia.com — we read every single message. Follow us on Instagram @getobsessedpodcast and Facebook — and tell us who you want to hear from next, or how YOU are living your best life. This community is built on your stories too. We are all in this together.
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In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun continues her conversation with Dr. Christine Marie, going behind the scenes of Trust Me The False Prophet and the years she spent building trust inside the FLDS community. Dr. Christine explains how vulnerability and the need to belong can make people susceptible to religious cults, how destructive groups can control thoughts, relationships, information, behavior, and emotions, and how she began recognizing troubling behavior surrounding Sam Bateman. She also shares what happened after recording evidence of abuse, the challenges of working with law enforcement, and the eventual investigation that led to Sam Bateman’s arrest and 50-year sentence. The conversation also explores the impact on women and families, the importance of speaking up when someone is being harmed, and why survivors should have the freedom to tell their stories in their own time. In this episode, we discuss: How vulnerability and the need to belong can make people susceptible to cult control Cult control and its influence on thoughts, relationships, information, and behavior Early rumors about Sam Bateman and his relationships with underage girls A confession that revealed ritualistic sexual abuse within Sam’s group The investigation, law enforcement challenges, and the events that led to Sam’s arrest The lasting effects on women, children, and families connected to the community Why speaking up against harm matters and how survivors can reclaim their stories ABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Christine Marie holds a PhD in Psychology specializing in media psychology, along with an MBA and a specialization in Positive Psychology. She is an author, speaker, researcher, educator, kindness advocate, and certified Trauma and Resiliency Life Coach. Her work focuses on coercive control, cult psychology, media trauma, public shaming, critical thinking, kindness, and resilience. In 2021, she received the Outstanding Dissertation Award from the American Psychological Association’s Division of Media Psychology and Technology. Christine is the founder of Voices for Dignity, a nonprofit supporting marginalized communities and survivors. She has spent the past decade doing humanitarian and dignity work in Short Creek and has extensive experience working with members of the FLDS community. In 2026, she was featured in the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet . MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Netflix documentary) Trust Me: The False Prophet - https://www.netflix.com/title/81758532 (Episode) Inside the Cult of Scientology with Anne Gollert Hill Part 1: https://www.getobsessedpodcast.com/podcast/episode/2d75b703/inside-the-cult-of-scientology-with-anne-gollert-hill-part-1 Part 2: https://www.getobsessedpodcast.com/podcast/episode/4aeb558d/inside-the-cult-of-scientology-with-anne-gollert-hill-part-2 CONNECT WITH DR. CHRISTINE MARIE: Website: https://christinemarie.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/christinemariePhD/ X (Twitter): https://x.com/christinemariek Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.christinemarie ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun sits down with Dr. Christine Marie to unpack the story behind Trust Me The False Prophet and her years living in Short Creek, an FLDS community. Christine explains why she moved to Short Creek in 2016, how her own experiences with polygamy shaped her initial perspective, and how getting to know FLDS families challenged some of the assumptions she had formed through sensational media coverage. The conversation explores how cultic influence works, why Christine believes it is important to look at coercion rather than stereotypes, and how she and her husband Tolga gradually built trust within the community. She also discusses the role of media in giving people the opportunity to tell their own stories, the impact of Warren Jeffs remaining influential while imprisoned, and how Sam Bateman used that loyalty to establish his own authority. In this episode, we discuss: Moving to Short Creek and challenging assumptions about the FLDS through firsthand experience Christine’s experience with polygamy and trauma and how it shaped her work with survivors Understanding cultic influence and coercive control through different forms of control Building trust within the FLDS community and connecting with people in Short Creek Using media to give people a voice and let FLDS members share their own stories Warren Jeffs and Sam Bateman’s influence and Bateman’s rise to authority Why people enter high control groups and how belonging and love bombing can lead to coercion ABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Christine Marie holds a PhD in Psychology specializing in media psychology, along with an MBA and a specialization in Positive Psychology. She is an author, speaker, researcher, educator, kindness advocate, and certified Trauma and Resiliency Life Coach. Her work focuses on coercive control, cult psychology, media trauma, public shaming, critical thinking, kindness, and resilience. In 2021, she received the Outstanding Dissertation Award from the American Psychological Association’s Division of Media Psychology and Technology. Christine is the founder of Voices for Dignity, a nonprofit supporting marginalized communities and survivors. She has spent the past decade doing humanitarian and dignity work in Short Creek and has extensive experience working with members of the FLDS community. In 2026, she was featured in the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Netflix documentary) Trust Me: The False Prophet - https://www.netflix.com/title/81758532 CONNECT WITH DR. CHRISTINE MARIE: Website: https://christinemarie.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/christinemariePhD/ X (Twitter): https://x.com/christinemariek Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.christinemarie ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Janelle Brown joins Julie Lokun to discuss her life after Sister Wives, from her years in polygamy and plural marriage to her new boyfriend, life after divorce, and her decision to leave Kody. Janelle reflects on what everyday life looked like before the cameras, why the family chose to go public, and how living in a plural marriage taught her to examine jealousy, comparison, and her sense of self. She also shares how public scrutiny affected her, how her children experienced growing up on television, and how the loss of Garrison changed the way her family talks about mental health. The conversation also explores the changes in her marriage and family dynamic, and what ultimately allowed her to move forward. Janelle discusses coaching, self-discovery, building a farm in North Carolina, and finding peace and possibility in her new life. In this episode, we discuss: Life inside polygamy and plural marriage before Sister Wives Bringing Sister Wives into the public eye and challenging negative narratives Self-worth and managing jealousy while learning her own value Mental health, grief, and Garrison’s legacy within the family Why did Janelle leave Kody amid family and relationship changes Janelle’s life after Sister Wives and building a life of her own Life after divorce and embracing change through independence and growth ABOUT THE GUEST: Janelle Brown spent years in the public eye as one of the women featured on Sister Wives, while also working full-time and raising her children. She spent 25 years in plural marriage before eventually leaving the relationship and beginning a new chapter of her life. Janelle became a certified coach after experiencing coaching herself and discovering how much it helped her understand her own thoughts and choices. She now helps women recognize the thoughts influencing their lives and explore the possibilities available to them. Today, Janelle is building a new life in North Carolina, where she is developing a farm with her family. She is also focused on coaching, wellness, and embracing the possibilities of her next 30 years. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (TV Show) Sister Wives - https://www.tlc.com/shows/sister-wives (Reference) People on Janelle Brown’s New Boyfriend - https://people.com/sister-wives-janelle-brown-shocks-fans-new-boyfriend-12062407 (Reference) Taeda Farms - https://taedafarms.com/ (Reference) High Country Humane Animal Shelter in Flagstaff - https://highcountryhumane.org/ CONNECT WITH JANELLE BROWN: Website: https://www.secondchaptercoaching.com/free-resource-hub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/STRIVEwithJanelle Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janellebrown117/ ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Dan Millman joins Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor to explore the ideas behind The Way of the Peaceful Warrior and how they have shaped his approach to Personal development. A former world champion athlete, coach, martial arts instructor, and author, Dan shares the experiences that inspired his most famous work and the real story behind Socrates. From surviving a devastating motorcycle accident to building a 50-year marriage, Dan explains how adversity can become a source of strength, why Happiness is something we practice rather than wait for, and how small steps can create lasting change. He also explores purpose, comparison, meditation, stress, and the importance of trusting your own path rather than following someone else's. In this episode, we discuss: The truth behind Socrates and the story of Way of the Peaceful Warrior What it really means to live as a Peaceful Warrior through everyday challenges How adversity can become a source of strength, wisdom, and personal growth Finding your own path through experimentation, self-discovery, and personal growth Moving beyond comparison and learning to trust your own path and progress Understanding happiness as a practice rather than something we have to wait for Living with purpose by focusing on the small steps we can take today ABOUT THE GUEST: Dan Millman is a former world champion athlete, university coach, martial arts instructor, and college professor who has spent decades teaching principles of personal development and purposeful living. He is the author of 18 books, including Way of the Peaceful Warrior, which has inspired millions of readers and was adapted into the feature film Peaceful Warrior. After a 20-year period of studying with different mentors and teachers, Dan developed what he calls the Peaceful Warrior’s Way. His work focuses on practical approaches to personal growth, purpose, resilience, and living with greater awareness. His books have been published in 29 languages, and he continues to speak through keynotes, seminars, workshops, and other educational programs. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Book) Way of the Peaceful Warrior - https://peacefulwarrior.com/way-of-the-peaceful-warrior/ (Book) Peaceful Heart, Warrior Spirit: The True Story of My Spiritual Quest - https://peacefulwarrior.com/peaceful-heart-warrior-spirit/ (Book) The Four Purposes of Life - https://peacefulwarrior.com/the-four-purposes-of-life/ (Book) The Life You Were Born to Live - https://peacefulwarrior.com/the-life-you-were-born-to-live/ (Film) Peaceful Warrior - https://www.amazon.com/Peaceful-Warrior-Widescreen-Scott-Mechlowicz/dp/B000QEIOSU CONNECT WITH DAN: Website: https://peacefulwarrior.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialpeacefulwarrior/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danmillmanpw/ ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Dr. Nicki Monti joins Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor to share how childhood trauma, addiction, and the search for self-love shaped both her life and her decades of helping others heal. An experienced therapist, author, and speaker, she draws on both professional expertise and personal experience to challenge the stories that keep people stuck. Drawing from more than four decades of sobriety, Dr. Nicki explores core wounds, emotional defenses, authenticity, and self-worth. She also reflects on caring for her late husband, working with public figures, and why healing begins by replacing old survival stories with the truth. In this episode, we discuss: What inspired Dr. Nicki to use her own life story instead of hiding behind professional credentials Why sobriety marked the beginning of emotional healing rather than the end of addiction How core wounds formed in childhood shape self-worth and lifelong beliefs Why emotional defenses can protect people while quietly preventing genuine connection The process of replacing old beliefs with personal responsibility and lasting emotional change Lessons from working with celebrities and why healing follows the same principles for everyone How projection shapes the way people judge themselves and others ABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Nicki J. Monti is a licensed marriage, family, and child psychotherapist, author, speaker, and podcast host known for her no-nonsense approach to lasting change. Combining clinical expertise with lived experience, she helps people move beyond limiting stories through compassion, humor, and practical insight. She is the author of The Divine Traumedy of Nikki Joy: A True Grime Tale and the Stuck in the Story No More series, and shares her work through books, podcasts, media appearances, and educational programs. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Book) The Divine Traumedy of Nikki Joy: A True Grime Tale – https://stucknomore.com/the-divine-traumedy-of-nicki-joy/ (Book) Stuck in the Story No More – https://stucknomore.com/books/ (Video) Dr. Nicki Monti TEDx Talk – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihollwRf9tU (Reference) Margaret Cho (referenced in the discussion about Dr. Nicki's first book) – https://margaretcho.com/ CONNECT WITH DR. NICKI: Website: https://stucknomore.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Nicki-J-Monti/179364015418429 X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/DrNicki Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/user15974785 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drnickimonti/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drnickimonti/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drnickimonti ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Matt Grace joins Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor to share the extraordinary story behind more than two decades of sobriety after years of severe drug addiction, alcohol addiction, sex addiction, and self-destructive behavior. He reflects on childhood behavioral issues, family history, enabling, privilege, and the early experiences that fueled his substance abuse. Matt explains how accountability, firm family boundaries, and service to others became the foundation of his addiction recovery after countless opportunities to avoid consequences. He also discusses why many families unintentionally prolong addiction, how his work shaped his views on addiction treatment, and why making amends is essential to lasting change. The conversation offers an honest recovery story filled with practical insight and hope for anyone striving to live your best life. In this episode, we discuss: The long road from addiction to lasting sobriety and hope for recovery The family history and early experiences that contributed to addiction Childhood behavior, therapy, and escalating problems before substance abuse took over How divorce, privilege, and enabling shaped years of destructive behavior Working with families affected by addiction and the importance of healthy boundaries The stories behind Matt’s most destructive decisions and the impact they had on his life Service, making amends, and the principles that sustain long-term recovery ABOUT THE GUEST: Matt Grace is an author, speaker, and transformational recovery expert with more than 20 years of sobriety. Holding a bachelor's degree in Addiction Studies with a concentration in Integrative Healing, he has spent over 10,000 hours mentoring individuals and families affected by addiction. He is the author of God Doesn't Relapse: Sex, Drugs, and the Life That Almost Killed Me and the founder of Saving Grace, where he has helped families navigate addiction, recovery, and generational trauma through practical guidance and accountability. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Book) God Doesn't Relapse: Sex, Drugs, and the Life That Almost Killed Me - https://www.amazon.com/God-Doesnt-Relapse-Almost-Killed/dp/1637635508 (Organization) Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) — https://www.aa.org/ (Organization) Narcotics Anonymous (NA) — https://na.org/ CONNECT WITH MATT GRACE: Website: https://mattgrace.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattsavinggrace/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MattSavingGrace/ Tiktok: http://tiktok.com/@mattsavinggrace ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Get Obsessed with... doing the thing that scares you. This week on Get Obsessed, Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor sit down with Tracy Heisler Drost, Mrs. Illinois 2025-26, for a conversation that goes way beyond the crown. Tracy pulls back the curtain on the world of pageantry — not the stereotype, the reality : the platform it builds, the doors it opens, and the personal growth that happens when you stop avoiding the things that make you uncomfortable and start leaning into them. Tracy shares how competing as Mrs. Illinois became less about the title and more about the megaphone it gave her — a platform to advocate, connect, and show other women what's possible when you bet on yourself. Julie and Mika dig into the mindset shift that made it all possible: the moment you decide discomfort isn't a red flag, it's a green light. If you've ever talked yourself out of something because it felt scary, unfamiliar, or "not really you" — this episode is your permission slip to do it anyway. In this episode, we cover: What it's really like to compete for a title like Mrs. Illinois — and what nobody tells you going in How pageantry functions as a platform-building tool, not just a beauty contest The confidence Tracy built by choosing discomfort on purpose Why "just try it" might be the most underrated growth strategy that exists How to turn any title, role, or opportunity into a bigger platform for your voice Advice for anyone standing at the edge of something that scares them Quotable moment: Tracy on why growth lives on the other side of uncomfortable — and why she keeps choosing it anyway. FAQs Who is Tracy Heisler Drost? Tracy Heisler Drost is Mrs. Illinois 2025-26, using her title as a platform to inspire women to embrace growth, confidence, and opportunities that push them outside their comfort zone. What does Mrs. Illinois 2025-26 talk about on Get Obsessed? Tracy talks about the power of pageantry as a platform, how competing built her confidence, and why intentionally choosing uncomfortable situations is one of the fastest ways to grow personally and professionally. What is the Get Obsessed Podcast about? Get Obsessed is hosted by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, delivering bold, unfiltered conversations on confidence, personal brand, entrepreneurship, and becoming obsessed with the life you're building. Where can I listen to this episode? You can listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and everywhere podcasts stream, or visit www.getobsessedpodcast.com for the full episode and show notes. How can I be a guest on Get Obsessed? Visit www.getobsessedguest.com to apply to be featured on the show. What is pageant "platform" and why does it matter? A pageant platform is the cause, message, or mission a titleholder champions during her reign — Tracy's story shows how a platform can extend far beyond the stage into real influence and impact. Links Mentioned ️ Listen to the full episode: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Apply to be a guest on Get Obsessed: www.getobsessedguest.com About the Hosts Julie Lokun, JD is a media entrepreneur, podcast strategist, and brand consultant, and the founder of The Mediacasters LLC and co-founder of Dragonfly Cre8tions LLC, Dragonfly Podcast Academy, and Cre8tive Con. Her podcasts rank in the top 0.05% globally on Listen Notes and top 5 weekly on Apple Podcasts. Learn more at julielokunconsulting.com and bigbetterbrand.com . Mika Altidor co-hosts Get Obsessed Podcast alongside Julie, bringing bold energy and real talk to every conversation about confidence, growth, and getting obsessed with your own life. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this solo episode of Get Obsessed , host Julie Lokun opens up about the routines, rituals, and rabbit holes currently running her summer. She walks listeners through her non-negotiable morning routine — a one-hour walk, meditation, and setting a daily intention — and explains why mindset work has to happen before the to-do list. From there, Julie dives into her self-proclaimed identity as a "conference junkie," reflecting on her recent experience at BookThinkers and why in-person networking still drives more business growth than almost anything else available to entrepreneurs and content creators today. The episode also covers Julie's current skincare obsession with The Ordinary, available at Sephora, and why affordable, high-impact skincare ingredients like niacinamide and hyaluronic acid are changing the beauty industry's cost conversation. Of course, no episode is complete without an update on her two French Bulldogs, Axl and Violet. The back half of the episode shifts into one of Julie's long-standing fascinations: cults, coercive control, and high-control groups. She previews three major interviews coming to the show in the next month: Janelle Brown from Sister Wives , discussing life after leaving a plural marriage; Anne Gollert Hill, a former Sea Org member of Scientology; and Dr. Christine Marie, featured in the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet . Julie closes the episode with a call-to-action for listeners to leave a review for a chance to win an exclusive Get Obsessed trucker hat. Topics Covered Morning routine for entrepreneurs: walking, meditation, and setting intentions Why conferences and in-person events fuel business growth BookThinkers conference recap and takeaways The power of authentic networking (not transactional networking) The Ordinary skincare review: affordable, high-impact skincare from Sephora Life with French Bulldogs Axl and Violet Preview: upcoming interviews on cults, coercive control, and high-control groups Janelle Brown (Sister Wives) on leaving a plural marriage Anne Gollert Hill on life as an ex Sea Org member of Scientology Dr. Christine Marie from Netflix's "Trust Me: The False Prophet" How to win a Get Obsessed trucker hat Timestamps 00:00 — Cold open: Julie's summer obsession list 01:15 — Morning routine: walking, meditating, setting an intention 04:00 — Conference junkie confession + BookThinkers recap 06:30 — The real ROI of networking 08:15 — Skincare obsession: The Ordinary from Sephora 10:00 — Axl and Violet (the French Bulldog segment) 11:00 — Cult obsession + upcoming guest preview 13:30 — Listener CTA: leave a review, win a Get Obsessed trucker hat 14:15 — Outro Links Mentioned Leave a review on Apple Podcasts: Get Obsessed: With Living Your Best Life The Ordinary skincare (Sephora): The Ordinary | Sephora BookThinkers Conference:www.bookthinkers.com "Trust Me: The False Prophet" (Netflix): Watch Trust Me: The False Prophet | Netflix Official Site "Sister Wives" (TLC): Sister Wives Returns for Season 20: The Most Powerful Season Yet | TLC.com Follow Julie: julielokunconsulting.com ️ Dragonfly Podcast Academy: www.dragonflypodcasting.com FAQS What is Julie Lokun's morning routine? Julie Lokun's morning routine includes a one-hour walk, meditation, and setting a daily intention before starting work. She credits this routine with providing the mental clarity and energy behind her business and podcasting work. What skincare brand does Julie Lokun use? Julie Lokun is currently using and recommending The Ordinary, a skincare brand available at Sephora known for offering high-impact, dermatologist-grade ingredients like niacinamide and hyaluronic acid at an affordable price point. Who is being interviewed on Get Obsessed about cults? Upcoming Get Obsessed guests discussing cults and high-control groups include Janelle Brown from Sister Wives , Anne Gollert Hill (a former Sea Org member of Scientology), and Dr. Christine Marie, featured in the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet . How can listeners win a Get Obsessed trucker hat? Listeners can win a Get Obsessed trucker hat by leaving a review for the podcast on Apple Podcasts. If the review is read on air during an episode, that listener receives a hat. What conference did Julie Lokun recently attend? Julie Lokun recently attended BookThinkers, a conference for authors and entrepreneurs, and describes herself as a "conference junkie" due to the networking and business growth opportunities these events provide. What names are Julie Lokun's French Bulldogs? Julie Lokun's two French Bulldogs are named Axl and Violet. LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE OR REACH OUT TO US ON INSTAGRAM @getobsessedpodcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor welcome Dr. Sherrie Campbell for a powerful conversation about trauma healing, overcoming family trauma, recognizing emotional abuse, and finding freedom from a toxic family dynamic. Inspired by her new book You Are Home, Dr. Campbell explains how survivors can recover from emotional neglect and childhood trauma by rebuilding their sense of safety, strengthening self-worth, and establishing healthy boundaries. She shares why therapy, self-healing, and inner child healing are essential to improving mental health and breaking cycles of generational trauma. This episode also explores protective estrangement, learning to trust yourself again, and finding peace without waiting for family members to change. In this episode, we discuss: How the idea behind You Are Home reframes trauma healing Why leaving a toxic family can be an act of protection instead of rejection Recognizing family trauma and why emotional abuse often becomes clear in midlife The realities of protective estrangement and navigating life after no contact Breaking generational patterns through love, respect, and intentional parenting Practical strategies for healing while still living with emotionally unhealthy family members Reclaiming self-worth by building an emotional home from within ABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Sherrie Campbell is a licensed psychologist, bestselling author, TEDx speaker, and host of the globally ranked Sherapy Sessions podcast. She specializes in helping survivors of toxic family systems heal from emotional abuse, establish healthy boundaries, and rebuild self-worth. Inspired by her newest book, You Are Home: Heal from Family Trauma, Establish Boundaries, and Find a Place of Peace and Safety, Dr. Campbell combines decades of clinical experience with her own personal journey to help people reclaim safety, peace, and belonging within themselves. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Book) Children of the Self Absorbed by Nina W. Brown - https://www.amazon.com/Children-Self-Absorbed-Grown-Ups-Getting-Narcissistic/dp/1572245611 (Video) Dr. Sherrie Campbell TEDx Talk on toxic family relationships - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deyHwDkG7oc (Video) Academy of Self Help interview featuring Dr. Sherrie Campbell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpusILQxBu0 (Reference) Susan Forward and her books on toxic family relationships - https://www.amazon.com/stores/Susan-Forward/author/B000AQ1NCI CONNECT WITH DR. SHERRIE CAMPBELL: Website: https://drsherriecampbell.com/ Book: You Are Home: Heal from Family Trauma, Establish Boundaries, and Find a Place of Peace and Safety - https://drsherriecampbell.com/self-esteem-relationship-counseling-in-yorba-linda/ Podcast: Sherapy Sessions: https://drsherriecampbell.com/the-hows-of-healing-hidden-family-trauma-podcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SherrieCampbellPhD Instagram: https://instagram.com/dr.sherrie TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.sherrie ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Meet the country star who is singing the anthem for single girls everywhere! Today we're getting obsessed with rising country star Maddye Trew — a Memphis-born singer-songwriter whose voice is as bold as her spirit. From her roots in Memphis to her journey to Nashville, Maddye brings heart, humor, and honesty to her music. Her breakout banger — " Single of the Year " — is not just a song. It's an anthem for single women everywhere: raising a glass, owning independence, and celebrating life with a beer in hand instead of wallowing over a broken heart. But Maddye's road wasn't all smooth. She once stood face-to-face with superstar diva Mariah Carey during an American Idol audition — a moment that could have shattered any young artist's dream. Instead, she used that rejection as rocket fuel. In This Episode We Talk About: How to reclaim your narrative and transform rejection into resilience The story behind " Single of the Year " — how it captures a generation of women navigating singleness and waiting Why being 30, single, and unapologetically chasing a music dream is powerful — and how the need for control plays into it Maddye's musical influences, including Carrie Underwood, Loretta Lynn, and the traditional country lineage she honors The importance of mentorship, giving back, and being the person you once needed to meet What's next: her new EP Here Goes Nothing (coming 2026) and how to follow her journey at maddyetrew.com Key Takeaways: You don't have to be defined by your relationship status — raise your glass, tie one on, and toast your independence What often looks like "falling behind" (friends getting married, society ticking boxes) can actually be your runway In music, as in life, the mindset shift from "talent-show contestant" to professional artist changes everything Mentorship and paying it forward matters — Maddye isn't just chasing a dream in Nashville, she's returning to her high school to encourage the next generation Being single isn't a pause; it can be a season of empowerment, growth, and the lead-in to bigger things Learn More About Maddye Trew: Website: www.maddyetrew.com Listen to "Single of the Year" on Spotify Follow Maddye on Instagram: @maddyetrew If you're navigating fears around control, waiting, or career vs. personal life, this episode is for you — share it with the "singledom" warriors in your life! Subscribe to the Get Obsessed Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. About Get Obsessed Podcast Hosted by Julie Lokun, JD and Mika Altidor , Get Obsessed is a globally acclaimed podcast that dives deep into transformation, resilience, and the human spirit. Each episode spotlights bold thinkers, change-makers, and survivors who turn adversity into advantage. Whether you're obsessed with self-growth, mental wellness, or real-life comeback stories, this is your weekly dose of empowerment. MEET US LIVE IN CHICAGO AT CRE8TIVE CON: www.cre8tivecon.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, David Toborowsky and Annie Suwan of 90 Day Fiancé join Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor for a candid 90 Day Fiancé cast interview about love, resilience, family, and the realities of life beyond reality television. From their unconventional beginning to becoming one of the most recognizable couples in the franchise, David and Annie share the experiences that shaped their relationship both on and off screen. The conversation explores the challenges and rewards of cross-cultural marriage, navigating public scrutiny as TLC reality TV personalities, and overcoming the doubts that surrounded their relationship from the very beginning. David and Annie also open up about their IVF journey, becoming parents later in life, raising their daughter in Thailand, and the lessons they have learned about commitment, growth, and staying connected through every stage of life after 90 Day Fiancé. In this episode, we discuss: Building a lasting relationship despite cultural differences and early challenges Life in Thailand and the lifestyle changes that came after leaving the United States Looking back at their difficult beginnings on 90 Day Fiancé and the doubts surrounding their relationship The realities of fame, online criticism, and living life in the public eye Sharing their IVF journey and becoming parents later in life Why they continue sharing their lives with fans and the impact of the 90 Day Fiancé community Parenthood, future family plans, and building a life together beyond 90 Day Fiancé ABOUT THE GUESTS: David Toborowsky and Annie Suwan are best known for their appearances on TLC's 90 Day Fiancé, where viewers followed their international love story from Thailand to the United States. Despite skepticism surrounding their age difference, financial struggles, and cultural differences, they became one of the franchise's most beloved and enduring couples. Since their debut, David and Annie have appeared across the 90 Day Fiancé universe, including Pillow Talk and David & Annie: After the 90 Days. Today, they share their experiences with marriage, family, travel, and parenthood while raising their daughter, Minthira, and splitting their time between Thailand and the United States. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Video) David and Annie's 90 Day Fiancé Episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUjEDGI2kTM CONNECT WITH DAVID & ANNIE: Website: https://david-annie.com/ & https://cookingwithdna.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Real.DavidandAnnie.page/ David’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/toborowsky_david/ Annie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annie_suwan_toborowsky/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@toborowsky_david ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Dr. Robert Epstein, psychologist, author, and Senior Research Psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology, joins hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor to discuss the growing influence of Google and other technology companies on privacy, behavior, and society. Drawing from years of research, congressional testimony, and investigations into online manipulation, Dr. Epstein explains how search engines, online surveillance, and algorithmic systems can shape decisions without users realizing it. The conversation explores digital hygiene, election interference, artificial intelligence (AI), internet addiction, and practical ways individuals can protect their data privacy in an increasingly connected world. In this episode, we discuss: How Dr. Epstein's research initially showed Google's unexpected power to shift voters Why Google's reach extends far beyond search and what that means for everyday users Practical digital hygiene habits and tools that can help protect privacy online Research showing how search results can influence opinions, decisions, and elections How phones, smart devices, and connected technology contribute to online surveillance Why artificial intelligence may increase the power of tech companies to monitor and influence behavior Concerns about children, internet addiction, AI-generated content, and the future of digital autonomy ABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Robert Epstein is an author, editor, professor, and Senior Research Psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology. A former Editor in Chief of Psychology Today, he has spent decades researching human behavior, technology, and online influence. He earned his PhD in psychology from Harvard University and is the founder and Director Emeritus of the Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies. His research has appeared in Science, Nature, and the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and he is widely known for identifying the Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME), which explores how search rankings can influence opinions and voting behavior. Dr. Epstein has testified before the United States Congress on election interference, Big Tech influence, and digital manipulation. He has authored or edited 15 books and has appeared on major media platforms including The Joe Rogan Experience, NPR, Voice of America, and SiriusXM. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Podcast) The Joe Rogan Experience featuring Dr. Robert Epstein (2022) - https://EpsteinOnRogan.com (Podcast) The Joe Rogan Experience featuring Dr. Robert Epstein (2023) - https://EpsteinOnRogan2.com (Video) Dr. Epstein's 2023 Congressional Testimony - https://2023EpsteinTestimony.com (Video) Dr. Epstein's 2019 Congressional Testimony - https://EpsteinTestimony.com (Website) My Digital Hygiene - https://MyDigitalHygiene.com (Website) America's Digital Shield - https://americasdigitalshield.com/ (Website) My Privacy Tips - https://myprivacytips.com/ (Website) Epstein Addiction Inventory - https://areyouaddicted.org/ CONNECT WITH DR. ROBERT EPSTEIN: Website: https://drrobertepstein.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrREpstein LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-robert-epstein-drrepstein-0658b2/ ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Host Mika Altidor continues a Get Obsessed podcast conversation with Stefano Siciliano, using the life of 1800s abolitionist John Brown to question claims that today is the worst time in history. Mika notes Brown endured extreme hardship, high child and maternal mortality, and fought slavery despite being white, ultimately giving his life for the cause. Stefano argues that while methods and appearances change, the fundamental “mechanic” remains: the pursuit of freedom from what is not true, with modern slavery expressed through deception, banking, and corrupt political systems. He says fear of loss drives greed and manipulation until people hit a crisis point where nothing works, creating the opportunity to be “available” for what’s possible. Availability depends on how one responds to adversity, like river water smoothing resistance in rocks. 00:00 Welcome Back Part Two 00:37 John Brown And Hard Times 03:29 Freedom Then And Now 05:19 Fear Loss And Corruption 05:47 Hitting The Wall 06:34 Choosing Availability 07:47 River Rocks Metaphor 08:43 Modern Comforts Still Misery Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
On the Get Obsessed podcast, host Mika Altidor interviews Stefano Siciliano, an American lifelong personal growth and spiritual path practitioner who began having spontaneous out-of-body experiences (OBEs) around age seven or eight and later learned to induce them. Inspired by Robert Monroe’s books, Stefano trained at the Monroe Institute, became a trainer in Europe, helped bring the technology to Eastern Bloc countries after the Soviet Republic collapsed, and now supports and endorses Darius J. Wright’s work. Stefano explains OBEs as normal and connected to sleep, dreams, and lucid dreaming, describing “mind awake, body asleep” as akin to deep meditation. He says conscious OBEs can transform one’s view of identity, reality, death, and loss, and frames adversity as a catalyst that can push people toward availability for “what more is possible,” recommending Wright’s online resources for further exploration. 00:00 Welcome and Intro 00:51 Stefano Background 01:31 Childhood OBEs 03:06 Monroe Institute Journey 03:54 Life Changes and Growth 04:57 Demystifying OBEs 05:53 Dreams Lucid and OBE 07:47 Mind Awake Body Asleep 09:13 Why It Matters 10:12 Seeing Your Body 12:13 Adversity as Teacher 15:15 Purpose in Suffering 20:20 Distortion and Chaos 23:29 Escapism and Cookoff Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Anne Gollert Hill continues her extraordinary story of life inside Scientology, sharing what it was like to work within the Sea Org and witness the organization's culture from the inside. A writer, survivor, and creator of My Scientology Story, Anne offers a rare firsthand perspective on leadership, loyalty, fear, and life at the highest levels of Scientology. In conversation with Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, Anne discusses the realities behind Scientology's public image, from the influence of celebrity members and the leadership of David Miscavige to the personal relationships and policies that shaped daily life inside the organization. She also reflects on the emotional challenges of leaving and the lessons she has learned through her ongoing journey toward freedom and healing. In this episode, we discuss: 01:59 - Why Scientology actively recruits celebrities and Anne's experience interviewing John Travolta 06:11 - Tom Cruise's relationship with David Miscavige and his unique status within Scientology 09:16 - Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, and the importance of exposing Scientology's abuses 11:29 - The absence of love in Scientology, the Bridge to Spiritual Freedom, and the financial cost of advancement 15:41 - The warning signs that led Anne to question Scientology and begin planning her escape 20:30 - How Anne's family's consistent love and support became the key to leaving the Sea Org 28:39 - Why leaving Scientology felt impossible and how Anne rebuilt her life afterward ABOUT THE GUEST: Anne Gollert Hill is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside Scientology and her journey toward freedom. After joining Scientology in 1988 during a difficult chapter in her life, she became deeply involved in the organization and was eventually recruited into the Sea Org's international communications division, serving at some of Scientology's highest-level facilities, including Gold Base. After nearly two decades inside the organization, Anne left Scientology on August 3, 2007, walking out of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, with only the clothes on her back. Today, she speaks openly about coercive influence, recovery, personal freedom, and the lasting impact of life inside a high-control organization. Through her writing and advocacy, she helps others better understand the realities of indoctrination, escape, and rebuilding life after leaving Scientology. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Video) Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath (Netflix) - https://www.netflix.com/title/81229101 CONNECT WITH ANNE GOLLERT HILL: Website: My Scientology Story: http://agollerthill.wordpress.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annehillwriter/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agollerthill Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@annegollerthill ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. LEGAL DISCLAIMER: The views, personal accounts, and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the guest, Anne Gollert Hill, based on her own lived experiences and recollections. This podcast makes no independent factual claims regarding the Church of Scientology or any of its members, leaders, or affiliated individuals. All statements reflect the guest's personal perspective and memory and should not be construed as established legal fact. The Church of Scientology denies many of the claims made by former members. Neither this podcast, its hosts, its production team, nor its parent company endorses, verifies, or assumes legal responsibility for the guest's account. This episode is produced for informational and entertainment purposes only. Listeners are encouraged to seek out multiple sources when forming their own conclusions. Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor speak with Anne Gollert Hill about Scientology, her years in the Sea Org, and her eventual escape from Scientology after nearly two decades inside the organization. Anne is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside one of Scientology's highest-ranking divisions and her journey toward rebuilding her life after leaving. Anne shares how a search for purpose led her into Scientology and eventually into the Sea Org, where she signed the Billion-year contract and spent years inside the organization's inner ranks. She discusses life under David Miscavige, the influence of celebrity Scientologists, including Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and Leah Remini, and her journey toward freedom after leaving. In this episode, we discuss: Anne’s background and how she became involved with Scientology How Scientology recruited her through emotional vulnerability What Scientology is and how it presents itself publicly The path to joining the Sea Organization and signing the billion-year contract Recruitment to international management and life inside Scientology leadership David Miscavige’s leadership and the atmosphere of fear inside the Sea Org Community inside the Sea Org and the policy prohibiting children ABOUT THE GUEST: Anne Gollert Hill is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside Scientology and her journey toward freedom. After joining Scientology in 1988 during a difficult chapter in her life, she became deeply involved in the organization and was eventually recruited into the Sea Org's international communications division, serving at some of Scientology's highest-level facilities, including Gold Base. After nearly two decades inside the organization, Anne left Scientology on August 3, 2007, walking out of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, with only the clothes on her back. Today, she speaks openly about coercive influence, recovery, personal freedom, and the lasting impact of life inside a high-control organization. Through her writing and advocacy, she helps others better understand the realities of indoctrination, escape, and rebuilding life after leaving Scientology. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Book) Troublemaker by Leah Remini - https://www.amazon.com/Troublemaker-Surviving-Scientology-Leah-Remini/dp/1101886986 (Video) Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath (Netflix) - https://www.netflix.com/title/81229101 (Reference) BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model-pdf-download/ CONNECT WITH ANNE GOLLERT HILL: Website: My Scientology Story: http://agollerthill.wordpress.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annehillwriter/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agollerthill Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@annegollerthill ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. LEGAL DISCLAIMER: The views, personal accounts, and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the guest, Anne Gollert Hill, based on her own lived experiences and recollections. This podcast makes no independent factual claims regarding the Church of Scientology or any of its members, leaders, or affiliated individuals. All statements reflect the guest's personal perspective and memory and should not be construed as established legal fact. The Church of Scientology denies many of the claims made by former members. Neither this podcast, its hosts, its production team, nor its parent company endorses, verifies, or assumes legal responsibility for the guest's account. This episode is produced for informational and entertainment purposes only. Listeners are encouraged to seek out multiple sources when forming their own conclusions. Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
If you haven't listened to last week's sit-down with former NFL star Marcus Ogden yet — go do that first. This week, Julie and Mika return to unpack every layer of his extraordinary rise, fall, and second act. Marcus went from being a dominant NFL player and minority contractor holding Baltimore's top government contract — to making $8.15 an hour cleaning restrooms. This is what rock bottom really looks like, and more importantly, what the climb back up teaches us all. Jules and Mika explore how Marcus was able to share his story without emotional charge — speaking from wisdom rather than wound — and why that signals a man truly living his mission. They dig into the parallels between addiction to substances and addiction to status, success, and dopamine, asking the question: is ego just another drug? "To have an ego that big, it had to be brought down. His rock bottom was a way of showing the height of where he was — and for him to come back from that, it's almost like he is called to share this." — Mika Altidor KEY TAKEAWAYS: Ego is a dopamine loop. Marcus replaced drug and alcohol addiction with the high of being "number one" — the most successful minority contractor in Baltimore. Success without humility can be its own trap. Comeback stories are rare — and that's why they matter. Jules and Mika reflect on how few people actually return from that depth of loss. Marcus's story is a Cinderella story because the odds were against him, and he made it anyway. Rock bottom can be a reset, not an ending. For Marcus, cleaning toilets wasn't the end of his story — it was the stripping away of everything fake so the real self could rebuild. Shared vulnerability is mission work. When you've been through something extraordinary, telling the truth about it stops being personal — it becomes a calling. Marcus embodies that shift. Check your ego before the universe does. Mika shares her own moment of realizing praise was inflating her sense of self. The universe has a way of recalibrating — best to do it yourself first. ABOUT THE HOSTS: Julie Lokun (https://julielokun.com) is a life coach, author, and the visionary behind the Get Obsessed Podcast — a show dedicated to stories that unlock human potential. Mika Altidor ( https://mikaaltidor.com ) is an entrepreneur, speaker, and owner of the Vegan Monarch Café in Winter Haven, FL. Together, they bring warmth, wit, and unapologetically real conversation to every episode. CONNECT & LISTEN: Listen & Subscribe: https://getobsessedpodcast.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getobsessedpodcast Julie Lokun: https://julielokunconsulting.com Mika Altidor: https://victormikabakery.com KEYWORDS & TAGS: Marcus Ogden NFL, riches to rags story, NFL player addiction recovery, ego and success, entrepreneurship mindset, rock bottom comeback story, overcoming addiction podcast, minority entrepreneur Baltimore, personal reinvention, dopamine and ambition, human spirit resilience, motivational podcast for women, Get Obsessed Podcast, Julie Lokun, Mika Altidor RECAP: This episode of the Get Obsessed Podcast, hosted by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, features a debrief on former NFL player Marcus Ogden — exploring themes of addiction recovery, ego-driven failure, entrepreneurial reinvention, and the psychology of comeback stories. Marcus Ogden rose from an NFL career to building Baltimore's top minority-owned government construction contract, lost everything including his sobriety, and rebuilt from working as a janitor at $8.15 an hour. This episode is relevant for searches on: NFL player comeback, addiction and success, ego as addiction, riches to rags, minority entrepreneurship, motivational podcast, and personal reinvention stories. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
What we are obsessed with! We are OBSESSED with all things self-care and the wonderful products at COZY EARTH- that include the best bed sheets ever (JULIE IS OBSESSED) and the warmest, most indulgent robes (MIKA IS OBSESSED). Visit their website http://www.cozyearth.com use the code OBSESSED , and save 20% . — — — In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Marques Ogden talks with hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor about how ego shaped his life after the NFL and what it ultimately cost him. A former NFL player who went on to build a multi-million dollar construction company, Marques shares how his rapid success in business, more than football, fueled a sense of invincibility that led to losing everything. He speaks candidly about bankruptcy, hitting rock bottom while working as a janitor for $8 an hour, and the moment he had to take full responsibility for where he ended up. Through that experience, he gained a deeper understanding of relationships versus money and why real connection matters more than status or success. Today, Marques uses those lessons to guide others, grounded in humility, accountability, and a commitment to never return to the person he once was. In this episode, we discuss: The hidden cost of success and the pressure behind life after the NFL Owning the fall when ego takes control From NFL player to entrepreneur and unexpected success Struggles with relationships vs money and identity outside the game How ego grew outside football and led to bankruptcy Losing friendships and discovering who truly stays at rock bottom Rebuilding with humility, credibility, and real connections ABOUT THE GUEST Marques Ogden is a keynote speaker, five-time bestselling author, and former NFL offensive lineman who now speaks to organizations on leadership, resilience, and overcoming failure. After playing five seasons in the NFL, he built a multi-million dollar construction company that eventually collapsed, leading him to file for bankruptcy and hit rock bottom. That experience became a defining turning point, forcing him to confront his ego and rebuild his life from the ground up with humility and accountability. Today, Marques uses those lessons to teach individuals and teams how to execute through adversity and develop a resilient mindset. He is also the host of the globally ranked podcast Get Authentic with Marques Ogden , reaching over 750,000 people monthly through his message of growth, ownership, and transformation. CONNECT WITH MARQUES OGDEN: Website: https://bookmarquesogden.com/ Get Authentic with Marques Ogden - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-authentic-with-marques-ogden/id1633323257 The Success Cycle by Marques Ogden - https://www.amazon.com/Success-Cycle-Achieving-Goals-Business/dp/1642931748 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarquesOgdenSpeaker/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marquesogden/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marquesogden/ X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/Marques_Ogden YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbROb_i2Ef3mr6OFoBOFjuQ ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Partner With US! http://www.getobsessedpod.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Mika Altidor and Julie Lokun are handing the mic over to the powerhouse behind Modern Mom Problems , Tara Clark. In this featured episode, Tara sits down with the iconic Dr. Rachel NYC (Dr. Rachel Goldman) to discuss her transformative new book, When Life Happens . www.modernmomprobs.com The conversation dives deep into the "mental load" and how our brains are often wired for survival in a modern world that doesn't have bears, but does have endless "pings" and social comparisons. Dr. Rachel breaks down the psychology of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) , making it accessible for anyone feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or trapped by negative self-talk. From changing your "system" for body confidence to the power of five-minute micro-habits, this episode is a masterclass in reclaiming your mindset. The Obsession Highlights The "Bear in the Woods" Theory: Why your brain reacts to a box of Legos falling over the same way it reacts to a predator. Changing the System: Tara shares her personal "beach outfit" hack that shifted her from body insecurity to being fully present with her family. CBT for the Real World: How thoughts, emotions, and behaviors are linked, and why you don't need a diagnosis to benefit from these tools. The "Just Do It" Psychology: Why behavioral activation is the key to breaking free from a "stuck" feeling. Micro-Habits: The power of five-minute sprints and why sustainability beats an "all-in" overhaul every time. Connect With Our Guests & Hosts Modern Mom Problems Website: www.modernmomprobs.com Dr. Rachel’s Book: www.whenlifehappensbook.com Follow Dr. Rachel: @DrRachelNYC Get Obsessed Podcast Instagram: @getobsessedpodcast Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Work With Us: Be a Guest | Join the Obsession The Hosts Julie Lokun: www.bigbetterbrand.com | www.bigbetterbrand.co Mika Altidor: www.victormikabakery.com FAQ: Get Obsessed Podcast Who are the hosts of Get Obsessed? The show is hosted by Julie Lokun , a branding expert and writer, and Mika Altidor , a successful entrepreneur and co-owner of Victor & Mika’s Bakery. Together, they explore the passions, habits, and mindsets of people who are "obsessed" with excellence. What is the "Get Obsessed" philosophy? We believe that greatness comes from a healthy obsession. We highlight entrepreneurs, authors, and thought leaders who tell it like it is and provide actionable advice to help our "Obsessors" level up their lives. How can I be a guest on the show? We are always looking for dynamic voices! You can apply directly through our dedicated guest portals at www.getobsessedpod.com or www.getobsessedguest.com . Where can I find Julie and Mika outside of the podcast? Julie leads brand strategy at Big Better Brand , while Mika continues to innovate in the culinary world via Victor & Mika’s Bakery . You can find their full bios and business links in the show notes above! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
What we are obsessed with! We are OBSESSED with all things self-care and the wonderful products at COZY EARTH- that include the best bed sheets ever (JULIE IS OBSESSED) and the warmest, most indulgent robes (MIKA IS OBSESSED). Visit their website http://www.cozyearth.com use the code OBSESSED , and save 20% . — — — In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Savannah Louie sits down with hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor to share what it means to be a true survivor, how resilience is built under pressure, and how she handled the reality of social media backlash after winning Survivor 49. Savannah is the winner of Survivor 49 and a reality TV competitor who navigated one of the most intense psychological and social games while under constant public scrutiny. This conversation goes beyond the game, uncovering how perception, pressure, and public opinion shape identity both on and off screen. Savannah reflects on maintaining emotional control in high-stakes moments, building confidence despite criticism, and turning backlash into fuel for growth. Through honest storytelling and insights, she reveals how being underestimated became her advantage and how her experience continues to inspire others to own their voice unapologetically. In this episode, we discuss: Savannah’s Survivor journey and how she turned adversity and criticism into success Reality television as both escapism and a reflection of social strategy Authenticity under constant surveillance and its psychological impact Intensive preparation involving physical conditioning and social skill development Personality testing and gendered interpretation of assertive traits Gender bias and the role of appearance in shaping audience perception Public backlash, self-reflection, and using the platform for impact ABOUT THE GUEST Savannah Louie is the winner of Survivor 49, where she navigated one of the most intense psychological and social competitions on television. Throughout the game, she balanced strategy, adaptability, and emotional awareness while being observed and judged in real time. Beyond the screen, Savannah’s experience highlights the power of resilience, especially in the face of public scrutiny and social media backlash. She has become a voice for embracing authenticity, showing how being underestimated can become a powerful advantage. Today, she uses her platform to empower others to own their story, build confidence, and stay grounded in who they are no matter who is watching. CONNECT WITH SAVANNAH LOUIE: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sahhvz/ ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Partner With US! http://www.getobsessedpod.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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