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Horse whisperer — or horse listener? Nicci Mackay on what horses are really telling usCan horses actually understand us? Nicci Mackay has spent her life arguing the question is backwards. She doesn't "whisper" to horses, and she's quick to correct anyone who calls her a horse whisperer — she listens.Nicci has communicated with animals since childhood, and has built a remarkable career translating what agitated, shut-down and "broken" horses are trying to say. In this episode she challenges the conventional wisdom around equine communication, what horses pick up on, and why so many of us are shouting when we should be listening.We talk about:• Why "horse whisperer" is the wrong word — and what "horse listener" actually means• What horses are really responding to (hint: it isn't the words)• The danger of anthropomorphising our horses — and how to read them on their own terms• Nicci's years as a groom and jockey, and what working in secret taught her• The moments she's been able to reach horses everyone else had given up onAbout the guest: Nicci Mackay is the author of Spoken in Whispers — The Autobiography of a Horse Whisperer. She has worked with horses, domestic pets, farm animals and birds, travelling widely to translate on behalf of animals for their owners. Her book is a rare insight into the minds, emotions and behaviour of the animals she's spent her life alongside — thought-provoking, often funny, and always honest.📚 Grab the book in our bookshop: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/4745/9781780572987

Chartered physiotherapist Ciara Glaisher treats horses and their riders as one system, and she says horse rider fitness starts with the breath. Most of us mouth breathe, brace our bellies and sit in chairs all day, then expect our pelvis to move with a horse's back. She tells host Anna Louise Claydon why a rider's position collapses mid-ride, what she keeps finding when a "sluggish" horse gets checked out, and why she'd rather riders learned a short symmetrical flow than signed up to a strengthening programme. In this episode: Why the yoga breathing rule, in through the nose and out through the mouth, might be wrong What holding your tummy in does to your breath, and what a baby does differently The horses booked in as "a bit sluggish, maybe arthritis", and what a horse-and-rider assessment keeps turning up instead Whether a sitting sport lets riders skip the warm-up every other sport demands Find Ciara Glaisher: merlinvetphysio.co.uk (her Symmetry & Synergy rider programme Instagram @ciaraglaisher_merlinphysio Facebook: Merlin Physiotherapy Curious Equestrian Follow the show on Spotify so you never miss an episode, and join our free newsletter for the full story behind this episode and the after-hours listener Q&A: https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk/#/portal/signup

Equestrian vaulting is gymnastics on horseback, and everyone in this episode says the same unlikely thing about it: you can start with no riding, no gymnastics and no particular level of fitness. Curious Equestrian spent a day at RDA Woodbridge as the centre launched vaulting for the first time, meeting Anne Hardwick, chair of British Equestrian Vaulting, two-star vaulter Annika Sievert, and Lizzie Bennett, The Para Vaulter, who started the sport from a wheelchair and coaches there from this month. Host Anna Louise Claydon, who is scared of heights, has a go herself. A sport that began with Roman cavalry and 18th-century circus acts, and appeared at the Olympics once, in 1920. In this episode: - Why Anna says you need no ability at all to start, and what the first sessions actually look like - What Anna looks for in a vaulting horse, and why temperament is settled long before movement - The other 23 hours: herd turnout, hacking and pole work, and why a vaulting horse that is only lunged does not last - The hat question, handed straight back to us, and where RDA rules and FEI rules part company - Why the barrel and the mechanical horse exist: rehearsing the biomechanics so a real horse never pays for the mistake - Annika Sievert on the fall at Saumur that should not have happened, and what the sport gave her that school never did - Lizzie Bennett on blacking out during every upside-down move, and what ten years of very small steps changed Find the clubs and coaches: British Equestrian Vaulting: britishvaulting.org Find a club near you: britishvaulting.org/clubs Suffolk Vaulting Club, Poplar Park, Hollesley: suffolkvaulting.com RDA Woodbridge & District Group: rdawoodbridge.org.uk Lizzie Bennett, The Para Vaulter: instagram.com/theparavaulter Vaulting at the FEI World Championships in Aachen runs 13-16 August 2026 and is streamed online: aachen2026.com Curious Equestrian Follow the show on Spotify so you never miss an episode, and join our free newsletter for the full story behind this episode and the after-hours listener Q&A: https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk/#/portal/signup

Shelby Dennis was taught to "get after" horses from the age of four, showing on the Arabian circuit and told not to worry: they're big animals, it doesn't hurt them. Then a rescue horse called Milo squared up to fight her when she escalated pressure the way she'd been taught, and everything she'd internalised started to come apart. That's where this conversation with the IAABC-certified equine behaviour consultant and author of Secrets of the Horse begins. There was another catalyst too: when her family went bankrupt and her horse moved from a show barn to a yard with herd turnout on 20 acres, his spooking and bolting stopped almost overnight, and nothing in his training had changed. Now she trains with positive reinforcement, on the principle that all behaviour is a symptom of an underlying feeling: a horse can't disrespect you, because respect is a human concept. From there, she and host Anna Louise Claydon take the same questions to the sport itself. Can equestrian competition ever be ethical? Shelby's answer is yes, but not under the current governing bodies. She points to the FEI's softened blood rule, the equipment still permitted at the top levels, and a study that found oral lesions in 87 to 88% of horses examined after an upper-level cross-country test (one event, as she's careful to say, and one that needs replicating). Her challenge to the industry is simple: if these things are truly harmless, prove it. The conversation also turns to the humans: trigger stacking, emotional regulation, and the permission not to ride today; and the connection between neurodivergent minds and horses, which Anna (freshly diagnosed with ADHD) and Shelby (diagnosed later in life) both speak to from experience. In this episode: - How being taught to dominate horses unravelled, one rescue horse at a time - How moving one horse to herd turnout on 20 acres did what training never had - Why positive reinforcement gives a horse a reason to enjoy the work, where pressure and release can only offer relief - Whether equestrian competition can ever be ethical, and why Shelby says not under the current governing bodies - The FEI blood rule, permitted equipment, and the cross-country oral lesion study - Trigger stacking, emotional regulation, and honouring your body around horses - Neurodivergence, masking, and why so many neurodivergent people are drawn to horses Find Shelby Dennis Book: Secrets of the Horse Paperback: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/4745/9781608689736 Audiobook: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/4745/9798349163685 Website: milestoneequestrian.ca (Publications tab) Instagram @sdequus | Facebook Milestone Equestrian | TikTok @sdequus (The Bookshop.org links are affiliate links: they support independent bookshops and Curious Equestrian at no extra cost to you.) Curious Equestrian Follow the show on Spotify so you never miss an episode, and join our free newsletter for listener Q&As with our guests, bonus content and behind-the-scenes: https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk/#/portal/signup

What if your horse isn't being naughty at all, but telling you something you were never taught to hear? Horsemanship expert Marcel Olivé joins Curious Equestrian to challenge everything we assume about horse psychology, and why the words we reach for, stubborn, lazy, mischievous, moody, almost always miss what the horse is actually saying.Drawing on more than 15 years with horses and his book The Truth About Your Horse, Marcel argues that good horse psychology starts by dropping the idea that we're the boss. Horses aren't kings and queens who want luxury; they're animals with a hierarchy of needs, and until food, freedom, safety and social contact are met, no amount of training will build the partnership we're after.In this episode:→ Why "we treat horses like kings and queens" fundamentally misreads what a horse actually wants→ The Horse's Hierarchy of Needs explained, from food and freedom of movement to safety, socialisation, confidence and fulfilment→ Why most "bad" behaviour is hidden pain or fear rather than stubbornness, and what horse psychology asks you to look for instead→ How the release of pressure, not the pressure itself, is what actually teaches a horse anything→ Why "respect the no" matters, and how forcing a horse into a trailer or a headcollar tends to backfire→ What walking with your horse, and sometimes doing nothing at all, does for connection that riding never will→ Why Marcel says the human, not the horse, is almost always the thing that needs to changeAbout Marcel OlivéMarcel Olivé is a horsemanship expert, equine-assisted facilitator and performance coach who came to horses as an adult and has spent more than 15 years pruning traditional methods down to what actually holds up under scrutiny. He is the author of The Truth About Your Horse and the creator of The Horse's Hierarchy of Needs, a free infographic he wants on the wall of every yard, stable and training centre. His work covers horse psychology in all its forms: horse behaviour and communication, equine welfare, the horse's hierarchy of needs, pressure-and-release training, and why understanding a horse matters far more than controlling it. Marcel's books are available on Amazon, and more about his current projects can be found on his website. Resources & links → https://www.marcelolive.com/original-horses-hierarchy-of-needs→ Marcel Olivé's website: https://www.marcelolive.com/ Subscribe & explore Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@curiousequestrian?sub_confirmation=1Newsletter: www.curiousequestrian.co.ukBookshop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrianMerch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/If horse psychology, horse behaviour and equine welfare matter to you, subscribe so you never miss an episode.

She worked inside horse racing. Then she started saying the things most people in the sport won't.After multiple racehorse deaths at the 2026 Cheltenham Festival and Grand National, the outrage landed on race day. But Alex Fleming says the deaths you see are not horse racing's biggest welfare problem. The harder question is the ordinary life of the racehorse: stabled for most of the day, little or no turnout or herd life, hard feed in place of forage, and stomach ulcers so common they have come to be treated as normal. They are said to live like kings, she argues, when what they actually want is to live like horses.It's a candid, good-faith conversation about what needs to change in horse racing, and why Alex believes education, not blame, is what will change it. She points to yards proving that better welfare and real success go together, and explains why she isn't calling for a ban, but won't rule one out either.Alex Fleming got into racing after a trip to Cheltenham for her 18th birthday. She trained at the British Racing College, worked in racing yards and freelanced riding out, and now retrains and rehomes ex-racehorses. Her Facebook post calling for an overhaul of the sport went viral after the 2026 Grand National.In this episode:– Why the deaths on race day aren't horse racing's biggest welfare problem– What daily life is really like for a racehorse: turnout, forage and stomach ulcers– Why nearly every ex-racehorse comes home with ulcers, and what that tells us– How breeding for speed has raised the risk of injury– What happens to thoroughbreds when their racing days end– Why educating the owners who fund racing might be what finally changes itA note on this conversation: Alex speaks from her own experience and opinion, and deliberately does not name the yards she refers to. This is a public-interest discussion of horse welfare, not a criticism of any particular yard or individual, and it is general discussion rather than veterinary advice. If you have concerns about your own horse, speak to your vet.Join our free newsletter, The Inquisitive Herd , for the listener Q&A with Alex that carries on after the cameras stop, plus producer Theresa's take.Find Alex Fleming on Facebook (Alex Fleming) and at coaching4confidence.co.uk

Lucy Katan MBE spent more than eight years as a horse groom, including time at the top of international dressage. She loved the horses, but she was also bullied on the yard and, after a dangerous 24-hour drive home from the 2002 World Equestrian Games, decided enough was enough. She wrote one letter to the British Equestrian Federation, and it became the British Grooms Association. In this episode, Anna Louise and Lucy talk honestly about why so many grooms struggle: illegal hours, pay below the minimum wage, bullying that gets excused as "just the way it is with horses", and the 2017 survey in which 83% of grooms reported poor mental health and more than 70% reported bullying at work. Lucy also shares practical advice for anyone in a difficult yard, and where to find help. An honest conversation about welfare, work and worth in the equestrian industry. Find help and support:British Grooms Association: https://britishgrooms.org.uk Grooms Minds: https://britishgrooms.org.uk/member-services/grooms-minds/grooms-minds Equestrian Employers Association: https://equestrianemployers.org.uk Riders Minds, 24/7 helpline: https://ridersminds.org

What does it mean to fight for horse welfare when being visible would cost you your livelihood? Riverstown Farm Stables — an anonymous Irish equestrian with over 37,000 followers and no public face (we've altered her voice to protect her identity) — joins Anna Louise at Curious Equestrian to talk honestly about the equine welfare conversations the industry keeps sweeping under the carpet. Drawing on years of working in professional yards across Europe, Riverstown argues that the equestrian world is still hiding from some basic truths: about turnout, about where horses end up when we sell them, and about what it actually takes to put the horse before the sport, the tradition, or the convenience. In this episode: → Why a welfare campaigner with 37,000 followers chooses to stay anonymous→ What working at a stallion station in Germany taught Riverstown about horses living behind bars with no turnout and no social contact→ Why paddock gardens are a genuine step forward — but can also be abused to replace real turnout→ The uncomfortable reality of horse slaughter in the UK and Ireland, and the passport loopholes that make it invisible→ Why horses still don't have the same traceability system as cattle — and what it would take to change that→ What the bitless dressage movement signals about where equestrian sport could be heading→ How traditional farming families are starting to question practices they have accepted for generations About Riverstown Farm Stables An anonymous welfare-first Facebook page with over 37,000 followers. Based in rural Ireland, the person behind the page is a riding instructor and equine welfare advocate who created the page to give horse people a space for honest, unfiltered discussion without the politics of personal identity. www.facebook.com/RiverstownStablesNorthTipp About Curious Equestrian A horse-first podcast about welfare, behaviour, and the messy realities of ownership. Subscribe to the free newsletter for after-hours Q&As and bonus content: www.curiousequestrian.co.uk

👇 INSIDE THE EPISODE, WE DISCUSS: • Theresa Demarest's 5-year journey making the film and why she centered the horses' perspectives.• Katherine Gregory (CEO of Colorado Horse Rescue) on the hidden realities of the rescue economy.• The truth about "kill pens" and why buying horses from them often funds the next truckload.• Why there is currently no minimum standard of care for horses in the US. Note: Throwaway Horses won two Winnie Awards at the 2025 Equus Film and Arts Festival, including Best Director. 🔗 RESOURCES MENTIONED: • Watch the film / Book a screening: https://www.throwawayhorses.com (Streaming on Amazon Prime US & Vimeo worldwide)• Colorado Horse Rescue: https://chr.org 📣 JOIN THE HERD: Subscribe to our biweekly newsletter for horse owners who have started questioning the received wisdom: https://curiousequestrian.co.uk

"People have this romantic idea of animal rescue. It's not like that at all." Billy Thompson has been jailed, physically attacked and throttled unconscious saving animals. He'd do it again tomorrow. This is what running a horse rescue sanctuary actually looks like. At The Retreat Animal Sanctuary, over 30 horses, donkeys and more have each arrived broken in some way — dumped in fields, abandoned on village greens, rescued from roundups. Anna Louise spends a day with Billy and trustee Lil to find out what it really takes: financially, emotionally, and physically. Meet Octavia — a blind horse who lost both eyes to uveitis and now has a guide horse of her own. Andrew — a foal the size of a border collie, given 12 hours to live when he was found collapsed. Pip — 37 years old and proof that a rescued horse can have a long, calm life. And a family of donkeys Billy refuses to split up, no matter how hard it makes rehoming. This animal rescue documentary doesn't shy away from the difficult parts. Some horses don't make it. Some names Billy still can't say out loud. But the majority do recover — and that, he says, is what makes it possible to keep going. Learn more about the work of The Retreat Animal Sanctuary: https://www.retreatanimalrescue.org.uk/

Horse riding has a cost problem the industry rarely addresses directly. Lessons most families can't afford. Schools closing at a rate that suggests something structural is breaking down. A sport quietly narrowing its own audience. Chloe is doing something the industry says isn't viable: offering riding lessons for free, funded by a social media following and a community that believes access matters. This episode is about how she built it, what it actually costs to run, and whether a free lessons model can survive long term. Anna Louise asks the questions that often get avoided: who is horse riding actually for? And if the traditional riding school model keeps failing, what comes next? Chloe is honest about the financial reality, clear-eyed about the pressures of daily content creation, and not interested in making it sound simpler than it is. 📧: info.chloeincornwall@gmail.com www.paypal.me/Chloeincornwall www.youtube.com/@chloeincornwall Subscribe to the Curious Equestrian newsletter at https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk

Hay prices have doubled. Some suppliers have nothing left. If you're a horse owner right now, this episode could save you time, money, and a lot of sleepless nights.Anna-Louise sits down with Nick from NP Nunn — a major hay, bedding, and feed supplier to stud farms and racing yards across the UK — to get an honest, ground-level view of the 2026 hay shortage crisis. Nick explains exactly why the shortage happened, how he's adapted his business to keep horses fed, and what horse owners can expect for the rest of the season.https://npnunn.co.uk/In this episode:Why the UK hay shortage started last June — and why it's still getting worse.How suppliers like NP Nunn are now importing hay from France, Belgium, Ireland and Scotland.The hidden nightmare of customs: one lorry held for 28 hours with correct paperwork.Why prices have doubled — and the extra 10% fuel surcharge now hitting buyers.The difference between French "crow hay" and UK meadow hay — and whether it's safe for your horse.What Nick predicts for the new hay crop and when supply might ease.How the war in the Middle East is affecting the wider equine supply chain.Whether you're a livery yard owner, a private horse keeper, or just trying to keep your horses fed this spring — this one is essential listening.🕒 Support the podcast: Shop our merch and browse our bookshop (links below)The Curious Equestrian challenges conventional wisdom in the horse world. We interview researchers, vets, and evidence-based trainers to ask uncomfortable questions about how we care for and train horses.🔔 New episodes every two weeksSubscribe to our newsletter: www.curiousequestrian.co.ukBook shop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrianMerch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/

Horse trainer and author Kate Sandel invites you to rethink what it really means for a horse to be well – in body and in mind. If your horse isn’t mentally with you, she argues, you’re not truly training together, you’re just doing things to them. In this conversation, we explore how to see the horse in front of you more clearly, soften your expectations, and build a partnership that feels good for both of you. Drawing on French classical riding, horsemanship, and bodywork, Kate shares practical ways to centre the horse’s experience in everyday training choices. Why you can’t separate a horse’s physical soundness from their emotional state. How to notice who your horse actually is, instead of who you hoped they’d be. The truth behind so‑called “naughty” behaviour, and what it might be telling you. Why simple walking with your horse is one of the most underrated tools you have. What really makes a great teacher – for horses and for humans in the arena. How grassroots equestrians can nudge the wider horse world toward kinder training. Kate is a UK‑based horsemanship teacher, French classical riding practitioner (École de Légèreté trainee), equine sports massage therapist, and author of Riding In Release . From her base on Dartmoor, she runs Soft & Sound, offering lessons, clinics, and online support for more ethical horse–human partnerships. Links and resources Resources & After Hours Q&A (newsletter): https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk/horse-human-partnership-right-question Soft & Sound: https://softandsound.org/ Riding In Release : https://uk.bookshop.org/a/4745/9781908809940 Newsletter: https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk Bookshop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian Merch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/

Do you care for a senior horse and want to ensure they are happy and healthy? Then you won't want to miss this episode written and narrated by Sue Palmer. Sue is an experienced equestrian physiotherapist with over 25 years in the industry. Sue has worked with inspiring owners and professionals during her career, and she's here to share her insights and expertise on caring for older horses. Sue's Free Horse Massage Mini Masterclass The Inquisitive Herd — free newsletterEvery episode includes an after-hours conversation available only to subscribers. Subscribe free at www.curiousequestrian.co.uk Books written by Sue Plamer Horse Massage for Horse Owners — Sue Palmer Harmonious Horsemanship — Sue Palmer and Sue Dyson Browse our bookshop: bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian

Sue Palmer is a chartered physiotherapist who works with horses and riders every day. Her mission, which she has given herself until 2030 to achieve, is straightforward: she wants every equestrian to understand that pain and behaviour in horses are linked. That when a horse is called naughty, difficult, or lazy, the first question should be whether that horse is in pain. In this episode, Anna Louise sits down with Sue to talk through what horse massage means in practice - not as a luxury, but as a tool for listening. Free Horse Massage Mini Masterclass thehorsephysio.co.uk The Inquisitive Herd — free newsletter Every episode includes an after-hours conversation available only to subscribers. Subscribe free B ooks mentioned in this episode Horse Massage for Horse Owners — Sue Palmer Harmonious Horsemanship — Sue Palmer and Sue Dyson Browse our bookshop: bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian

A $13 roll of tape is showing up in equine rehabilitation yards. The question is whether the claims stand up. Rebecca Haddock has spent 30 years working at the edges of equine therapy. In this episode, she explains how kinesiology taping works in horses, why the equine version is built entirely differently from human tape, and how she's simplified the technique so that any horse owner can learn it. We also ask why she threw out the rulebook on who can access this training. Learn more about Rebecca's work at equitecs.com ***If this episode made you curious, the newsletter is where we pick the conversation back up. The questions we saved until the recording light went off. Free, no spam, unsubscribe anytime. 👇www.curiousequestrian.co.uk/p/384842a6-5d1f-475f-975d-8d675909007a*** Learn more about Rebecca's work: Website: https://www.equitecs.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/equi_tecs/https://www.facebook.com/EquiTape **** Support the podcast: Shop our merch and browse our bookshop (links below) Subscribe to our newsletter: www.curiousequestrian.co.uk Book shop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian Merch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/ The views expressed are those of the guest. Nothing in this conversation constitutes veterinary advice. Always consult a qualified vet for the diagnosis and treatment of your horse.

Bonny Mealand - Equine Podiatrist, Touching Wild Academy In this episode: Bonny Mealand has spent 20 years studying wild horses, she talks about how horses' entire lives revolve around social relationships, and how watching wild horses changes the way we advocate for domestic horses.Key topics:- Why social relationships are horses' primary need (not hierarchy or survival)- The two-year commitment: not riding until her mare genuinely agreed- How wild horse behavior reveals what we're missing in domestic horse care Guest contact & resources:Intro Video Credit: Lizzie MacKenzie, Of The Wild - visit the Touching Wild Academy to watch in full. Intro Photo Credits: Jean Sinclair. Takhi in Mongolia Photo Credit Nancy Clarke. Support the podcast: Curious Equestrian challenges conventional wisdom in the horse world. We interview researchers, vets, and evidence-based trainers to ask uncomfortable questions about how we care for and train horses.🔔 New episodes every two weeks Subscribe to our newsletter Book shop Merch Additional Resources mentioned in this episode: Horses in Company by Lucy Rees Horses in Our Hands 5 Domains of Horse Welfare

This is your comprehensive "Winter Survival Guide." In this deep-dive, Independent Equine Nutritionist Clare MacLeod (MSc) joins us to cover virtually every aspect of managing your horse through the colder months. From the anxiety of the Hay Crisis to the confusion around rugging and fasting windows , we leave no stone unturned. Clare provides the science-backed protocols you need to prevent colic, manage mud, and keep both "Good Doers" and "Hard Keepers" healthy until spring. In This Extensive Guide, We Cover: The Forage Crisis: Exact protocols for stretching hay and safely mixing forage types. Gut Health: The "7-Day Rule" for transitions and the truth about "Ad Lib" feeding. Medical Myths: Why the "4-Hour Fasting Window" is critical for ulcer prevention. Management: To rug or not to rug? A nutritionist's verdict on calories vs. cold. Winter Colic: The link between dehydration, impaction, and cold weather. Weight Watching: Using the winter slump to your advantage for "Good Doers." Guest Resources: Clare MacLeod’s Website: https://www.equinenutritionist.com/ Follow Clare on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ClareMacLeodEquineNutritionist

We often think of the Shire horse as a staple of the county show. Huge, gentle, and safe. We assume they are doing fine. The data tells a different story. In this episode, Anna Louise sits down with Tracy Wathen-Jones from the Rare Breeds Survival Trust (RBST) . We move past the nostalgia of the heavy horse to face the biological reality: we are losing our native breeds. We discuss: The extinction numbers: Why the Exmoor pony and Eriskay are now critically rare. The "frozen" insurance policy: Why we are relying on a gene bank of semen from the 1960s to save these breeds from total collapse. The lost language: Why handling a Shire requires a different skill set to a warmblood—and why losing the "old boys" means losing the horsemanship skills to keep the breed alive. Utility vs. Sport: Why "conservation grazing" might be the only job left for our native ponies. This is not just a history lesson. It is a conversation about whether the horse has a future if it doesn't have a job. Special thanks to the following photographers and societies for the images used in the video intro: Jennifer Feleris, John Green, Katrina Bell, Frances Ellis, Louise Blundell, Deborah White, El Dunlop, David Stewart, and the Eriskay Pony Breed Society.Learn more about our UK Native Horse Breeds on the Rare Breeds Survival Trust website: https://www.rbst.org.uk/pages/category/equine-watchlist The Inquisitive Herd (Membership): The conversation continued after the mics cut off. Members can listen to the After-Hours Tapes , where Tracy shares the specific reality of funding these projects and the "messy" truth of breed societies.

Have you ever thought through exactly what would happen if you fell off your horse while hacking? We often plan our routes, but do we have a plan for when it all goes wrong? In this vital episode of Curious Equestrian , we are joined by Mike Elkins , Lead Driving Education Manager at South Central Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust. Mike is the driving force behind Project Pacer , a campaign dedicated to reducing road incidents involving horses and improving rider safety awareness. Mike bridges the gap between the equestrian world and the emergency services, sharing eye-opening statistics and life-saving advice that every horse owner needs to hear. In this episode, we discuss: Project Pacer: Why reported incidents (over 3,000 a year) are just the tip of the iceberg. The 999 Call: What actually happens when you dial emergency services and how to help them find you in remote locations (including the truth about mobile signal). Immediate Action: Why deep breathing isn't just for calming down—it can physiologically slow down bleeding. Sirens & Lights: How ambulance drivers are trained to approach horses on the road and why wearing high-vis makes you three times more visible to them. First Aid Essentials: What you should carry in your saddlebag and why "just getting back on" isn't always the bravest choice. Whether you hack on busy roads or remote bridleways, this conversation will leave you better equipped, better prepared, and potentially ready to save a life. Links & Resources: Learn more about Project Pacer via The British Horse Society Check your phone for AML (Advanced Mobile Location) settings. Disclaimer: This episode discusses medical trauma and road accidents. Please listen with care.