An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole. Our goal is to promote freedom of mind, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion. For press, sponsorship, and other inquiries, contact LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Social Media: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we discuss the dangers of parasocial relationships and how people in parasocial relationships can come under a pseudo-cultlike control in their desire to be seen or noticed by a person they feel a strong connection to. In this episode we discuss parasocial relationships with celebrities like Taylor Swift, political commentators like Rush Limbaugh, and other notable people like Donald Trump and Elon Musk (as well as Lauren Ash, Sadie's parasocial bestie) Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this mini episode, I would like to recommend The Jordan Harbinger Show. Jordan has some amazing guests on his show, and he has a gift for making complex ideas accessible. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.
EVERYONE who signs up to my giveaway wins a FREE spicy toy or gift card for toys! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/leavingeden-pod #bbpartner In this episode, we discuss the ongoing schism in the Catholic Church, as Pope Leo excommunicates the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) following their decision to disobey him by consecrating new bishops. SSPX is a faction within Catholicism that considers the reforms of the 1960s (Vatican II) to be wrong and heretical. They seek to reverse the Catholic Church's more progressive recent direction. Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Over 4th of July Weekend, notorious hate-preacher, abuser, and terminally online bottom feeding degenerate Steven Anderson, pastor of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe Arizona (In the same strip mall as the McDonald's) declared that he intends to stop preaching if god almighty does not punish his four estranged adult children for escaping from his abuse. In a 15-minute sermon, Anderson airs his own dirty laundry in a manner we found disturbing. In this episode we react to this sermon and give you our thoughts. Warning: This episode contains extreme and hateful language 00:00 - Intro 08:24 - Dirty Laundry 09:13 - "Why I do not want to continue pastoring" 12:54 - "I can't control what's in my subconscious!" 15:47 - "The haters live in my head rent free" 19:12 - "Come At Me Bro" 20:33 - "Adultery with my wife" 31:49 - "All my friends have left me" 35:30 - Psychological battles 39:22 - Steven Anderson Hates America 41:16 - I WANT TO BE VINDICATED PUBLICLY 46:45 - "I don't want to spend time with my kids anymore" 49:54 - "I want god to punish my children" 55:50 - "I never want to see my kids again" 59:05 - "I will quit pastoring" (Not really) 66:38 - Speaking out WORKS! Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Everyone who signs up to my giveaway wins either a free WhisperVibe™ or a FREE Rose toy with any WhisperTech™ purchase! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/leavingeden-pod #bbpartner We are joined by Dee from Umbrella Rebellion to discuss the recent news that Bill Gothard had a heart attack and is currently in a coma. This news comes just months prior to an expected deposition in a lawsuit on behalf of IBLP survivors. Dee, an IBLP survivor gives a valuable perspective that many IBLP survivors may relate to. Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we read listener stories with our wonderful friend, Dinah House-Fire! Thank you to everyone who wrote in! Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
EVERYONE who signs up wins a FREE toy or gift card! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/leavingeden-pod In this episode, we discuss the commonalities between searching for a religious (or formerly religious) person during deconstruction and searching searching for an identity as a member of the LGBTQ community. We discuss the pros and cons of labels, as well as the connotations certain labels bring! Next week we will be reading listener letters with Dinah House-Fire! Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Sadie takes us through the BITE model and discusses how cult control looks in an abusive relationship and how similar it is to Christian Fundamentalism. 00:00 - Intro 08:00 - Why are cults like abusive relationships? 12:27 - Behavior Control 17:30 - Written and unwritten rules 31:03 - Information Control 46:00 - Thought Control 52:48 - Emotion Control 59:00 - Queer Relationships Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
EVERYONE who signs up to my giveaway with @bellesaco will receive a FREE Rose suction toy with their order! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/leavingeden-pod In this episode, we go through seven major bible verses that are most often used to promote anti-LGBTQ hate within Christianity and alternate (and in some cases more accurate and reasonable) interpretations. Sadie's theory is that in these verses and that everywhere that "sexual immorality" is mentioned in the bible, there is an element of consent that is often ignored by evangelicals or Christians who would use the bible as justification to hate members of the LGBTQ community. Gavi's belief is that it doesn't matter whether or not these verses refer to homosexuality because discrimination and hatred are against the higher-priority biblical commandments to love thy neighbor. These passages include Genesis 9, Genesis 19, 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1, Romans 1, and Leviticus 18. 00:00 - Happy Pride! 05:25 - What are "Clobber verses?" 07:25 - Genesis 9, Noah's Ark and the Curse of Ham 15:18 - Genesis 19, Sodom and Gomorrah 27:02 - Romans 1, "A reprobate mind" 33:38 - 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1 40:04 - Leviticus 18, "It is abomination" 42:40 - Kavod Habriyot, and human dignity 46:50 - Romans 13, "Love Thy Neighbor," and financial ethics Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we discuss the emails sent between Josh and Anna Duggar between Josh's trial and sentencing in late 2021/2022. The extended version of this episode which contains the discussion of NSFW emails sent between Josh and Anna is available at Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In what is potentially the dumbest piece of content we have ever made, we present to you our duggar vehicles tier list. Yes, we made a tier list of every single vehicle mentioned in the Josh Duggar jail emails obtained by Lily Archive (the GOAT) by FOIA request. If you like this type of brainrotted nonsense, please tell us so we can make more of it. Full tier list is located here, along with images of all of the cars (the tier list and pictures are not paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/158887713 00:00 - Intro 07:48 - 2013 Toyota Tacoma 09:03 - 2006 Chevrolet HD2500 Duramax 12:12 - 2015 Chevrolet Tahoe 22:32 - Cadillac SRX 2WD 30:02 - Cessna 210 and 410 35:38 - Mitsubishi MU2 36:46 - Kubota Skid Steer and Tractor, Hino Dump truck 41:24 - Duggar motor home 42:38 - Black Limo from Copart 45:07 - BRING BACK THE EL CAMINO 47:36 - Honda Pilot 50:05 - Jana's Land Rover Discovery 58:43 - Duggar Bus 1:01:04 - 2015 Dodge Ram 1500 with hail damage 1:03:34 - 2006 Dodge (wrecked) 1:04:17 - Phenom 100 and helicopter 1:05:58 - Cadillac with a Northstar V8 1:14:44 - Honda dirt bike Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This past month, Josh Duggar's prison emails sent between his conviction in December of 2021 and his sentencing in June of 2022 were revealed to the public via FOIA request (Thank You Lily Archive). In this episode, we go through the emails sent between Joshua Duggar and his spiritual advisor, LaCount Reber. Joshua stayed with the Reber family when he was out on bail during his trial. These emails reveal the depths of Josh's ignorance about even the most basic tenets of Christianity. They reveal a lack of curiosity, and an inability to read coded messages sent to him as bible quotations, and an understanding of scripture that can be (charitably) described as rudimentary. Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we discuss the mental gymnastics Fundies perform to say that drinking alcohol is a sin, even though Jesus turned water into wine. We go into the history of where the fundie taboo around drinking came from, how a social taboo became integrated into a religious doctrine, and why this makes zero sense. In the Patreon extended edition, Sadie talks about her job working with at risk teens, and helping them identify abusive behaviors and how people can change abusive behaviors. https://www.patreon.com/posts/157928236 Please send your pride stories to LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.Com so we can read them on an episode! 00:00 - INTRO: 04:26 - Josh Duggar Emails 05:48 - SEND YOUR PRIDE STORIES TO US! 06:54 - Jesus' miracles 07:50 - Anti-Alcohol sentiment in Christianity 18:27 - Why did or didn't people drink alcohol in biblical times? 26:20 - Prohibition and the Scopes Monkey Trial 32:27 - Why are fundies stuck in the 1920s? 37:08 - Jesus turned water into... Grape Juice? 38:35 - He turned the water into Lean 39:35 - How the fundies convince themselves that Alcohol is bad Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chad joins us once again to talk about OTHER bible stories about King David and his family, and what lessons fundamentalists take from them. We examine why King David is seen as such a great king despite the many failures of his rule and the mess that was his family. We discuss Absalom's rebellion, Tamar's assault, and the ??? story that is the story of Abashag. Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In today's episode, Sadie discusses the recent article in Vanity Fair about Hyles-Anderson College, which she attended from the fall of 2011 until the spring of 2013. While this article did a good job of explaining what makes this college so controlling, we felt that this subject would have been better served with a longer-form piece that focused more on the deeper aspects of control rather than JUST the dress code. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/the-college-for-trad-wives?srsltid=AfmBOopagpD8okZIVAWJdyk7Svyax_rmS8qF4xH0n2dryDQj7eEVtsRL 00:00 - Intro 05:23 - Tradwives 07:43 - Rules for men vs. women 09:43 - MRS Degrees 14:58 - The IFB 20:23 - The Curriculum 28:01 - Bus Routes 33:12 - How Sadie Almost got expelled 38:08 - What the Vanity Fair could have done better 42:48 - Why some people don't make it 44:46 - This is an insular culture Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we discuss Josh Duggar's attempt to vacate his conviction and secure a new trial based on the theory that Caleb William was the guilty party in his crime. We discuss his issues with filing deadlines, as well as how quickly Josh's sentence has gone by. We also discuss the statement released by the Caldwell Family regarding Joe Duggar's alleged crimes, what this says about their current situation and their relationship with Kendra. Sadie also talks about Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction fake bible quote. The Patreon extended version of this episode includes Sadie recording a parody of the 2014 Michelle Duggar robocall in which Michelle Duggar fearmongered about trans people in bathrooms. Sources for this episode are on this Patreon post (The text of this post is NOT paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/156103157 00:00 - Intro: 04:16 - A correction and a clarification 07:05 - WE DO NOT SPECULATE OR IDENTIFY THE VICTIM 15:27 - Josh Duggar is trying to get out of prison (AGAIN) 23:58 - Prison Mailbox rule 29:35 - The timing is impeccable and Jack Schaap 34:09 - Josh's sentence is FLYING by 38:14 - Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction "Bible" Quote 46:56 - Caldwell Family Statement Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we discuss Christian beliefs around taxation, as well as why some fundamentalist Christians like Kent Hovind have opted for a sovereign citizen defense. At the end of the episode, we discuss the creative ways that Jim Bob Duggar has avoided taxation by passing his tax burden off onto his children. Source images are located on this Patreon post (the sources are not paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/are-christians-155188116 00:00 - Intro 02:00 - Intro 03:43 - Tax season 04:31 - Kent Hovind, Dinosaur Adventure Land, Structuring 08:34 - Render Unto Caesar 12:05 - Romans 13 and historical context 16:39 - Sovereign citizenship 20:00 - The 14th Amendment 23:14 - Suing the IRS 25:46 - Convicted! 29:50 - Jim Bob Duggar 32:24 - The clobber verses vs. financial ethics 34:04 - Magical Thinking 37:15 - Gavi's Flow Chart Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, Gavi proves how much he has learned about fundie culture by showing Sadie his INSPIRED AND PRESERVED translation from Fundie/Christian-ese to plain English of the Duggar Jail Emails that were obtained by Lilly Archive using the FOIA. Sadie then provides additional cultural context as well as a few things from these emails that stood out to her. In the extended Patreon edition of this episode, we discuss Amy Duggar King's April Fools Day post in which she joked about interviewing Bill Gothard. Sources, images, and additional material are located here (Yes it is a link to Patreon, but these things are not behind a paywall) https://www.patreon.com/posts/duggar-family-on-154932362/edit?postId=duggar-family-on-154932362 SPECULATING ON THE IDENTITY OF JOE DUGGAR'S VICTIM IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. 00:00 - Intro 01:45 - Sadie was raised Fundie, Gavi was NOT! 03:39 - What do people miss? 05:56 - "Bless Your Heart" 07:50 - "I Love You and Jesus Loves You" 13:04 - The Letter from Austin Forsyth 18:33 - Gavi's Translation of Austin's letter 20:48 - Thank You to our Patrons! 22:22 - Josh Duggar's Jail Emails 26:13 - Chariots of Fire 27:37 - Josh is the Prodigal son 30:07 - Gavi's Translation of the Josh Letter 32:22 - Jim Bob is delusional 35:15 - Jim Bob's letter to Joe 38:27 - King David 40:29 - THE PUN 44:56 - God's Plan for Joe 47:34 - Gavi's Translation of Jim Bob's letter to Joe 50:18 - It will happen again 52:42 - Josh/Anna/John David Letters 56:13 - Will there be a trial? Joe Duggar's Lawyer Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we discuss the GoFundMe that Paul Caldwell (Kendra Duggar's father) posted which has since been deleted. All of the sources for this episode are located here, on this post on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/posts/caldwells-vs-for-154830204 00:00 - Intro 04:12 - Disclaimers 05:13 - The Caldwells' latest moves 08:00 - GoFundMe taken down 08:35 - We have so many questions 10:55 - The Caldwells are not IBLP 12:41 - Sadie's connection with the Caldwells 14:49 - Thank you to our patrons! 16:18 - The Caldwells live in Joe and Kendra's house? 18:08 - The Jailhouse call 18:38 - Why do they need the house back? 20:01 - The no contact orders are REAL 21:00 - Kicking people out of houses 21:29 - SAFE housing? 23:06 - What do you need legal fees for? 24:06 - Quitclaim Deeds 25:58 - the D word? 27:06 - Is divorce allowed in the fundie world? 31:26 - You never know what is going on in these families 34:41 - Jim Bob is controlling 36:56 - Do any of these motivations make sense? 38:41 - IFB vs. IBLP 45:57 - Which scenario do you think is most likely? Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Today we discuss the latest developments in the Joe Duggar case. Duggar has pleaded Not Guilty to all charges in Florida, has been released on a $600,000 bond, and (we think) is back in Arkansas. YouTuber Lily Archive has released numerous phone calls as well as emails sent to Joe Duggar while he was in jail in Arkansas. She obtained this material using a FOIA request (she has shown provenance). These are extremely telling. We give our impressions on this material, especially focused on the emails. Lily Archive's FOIA request documentation https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1sag5mu/proof_of_joes_jail_emails_i_got_via_foia_request/ Junior_Wolf9331's pictures of Jim Bob and Joe at the airport https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1s9261f/jim_bob_joseph_at_panama_city_fl_airport/ UPDATE: Between the time of filming and release of this episode, Washington County District Court sent me the documents that were published by Katie Joy as well as others, and they are the same documents, they are real. 00:00 - Intro 04:23 - DISCLAIMERS (We might be wrong) 05:29 - Joe Duggar pleads NOT GUILTY and is out on bond 08:06 - Will there be a trial? 09:30 - What will the defense strategy be? 11:45 - Jim Bob/Michelle Duggar statement 12:30 - Josh Duggar vs. Joe Duggar favoritism 13:45 - Getting the confession excluded 17:08 - Thank you to our patrons! 18:36 - The Phone Calls/Lily Archive 24:40 - The Emails 24:50 - Jim Bob's Email 26:55 - King David and Joseph 32:27 - Josh is the smartest Duggar? 35:21 - Austin Forsyth's email 37:52 - Anna Duggar's email 40:45 - It's all coming apart Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
