That UFO Podcast

A quick update on the new interviews and shows coming your way, including more from Danny Sheehan, some major upcoming guests and a few hints at what could be around the corner. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

In 1971, a Costa Rican government mapping aircraft photographed Lake Cote every 13 seconds. Frame 299 showed nothing unusual. Frame 300 captured a metallic, disc-shaped object. By frame 301, it was gone. Nobody onboard saw it at the time. Andy is joined by filmmaker Adam Pillon to discuss The Cote Photo, a new documentary investigating one of the clearest and best-documented UFO photographs ever made public. They explore how the image was captured, its remarkable chain of custody, modern analysis of the film, the testimony of Sergio Loaiza and why this photograph still stands apart more than half a century later. The Cote Photo is available now on Amazon, Apple TV and cotephoto.com . 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Andy and Pavel dig into another busy week of UFO news, claims and controversy. They examine the remarkable 1971 Cote UFO photograph, Dylan Borland’s alleged experiences and “demonic” interpretation of the phenomenon, Diana Pasulka’s thoughts on possession and NHI, and the growing debate around spirituality and UFO disclosure. Also discussed: Shane Smith’s reported VICE UFO series, possible future Pursue releases, Skinwalker Ranch, Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, and concerns surrounding AARO’s proposed access to David Marler’s enormous UFO archive. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Dr Diana Pasulka returns to discuss her new book, *The Others*, in a wide-ranging two-hour conversation exploring UFOs, AI, religion, death, consciousness and Disclosure. We get into who or what “The Others” may be, whether UFO belief is becoming a new religion, the links between anomalous experiences and the afterlife, Peter Thiel and the Antichrist, the Vatican archives, misinformation in ufology and how Diana’s own views have changed over the years. Plus: crash retrievals, recovered bodies, NHI deception and what may come next. Get your copy here - https://amzn.eu/d/0967LUcq 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Todays Sponsor - hims.com/thatufo , by using the link you support me directly Andy joins Pavel and Missile Man Jack to discuss reports that David Grusch could be returning to Joe Rogan, and whether a second appearance might deliver the next major moment in the disclosure story. Also covered: Trump’s new US Space Academy and nuclear propulsion plans, Grusch’s comments on NHI biology and human origins, Matthew Brown’s startling claims about mind manipulation, alleged agreements with non-human intelligence, the White House crash-retrieval story, disclosure fatigue and a provocative new theory about Gary McKinnon’s famous “off-world officers” file. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

On this episode of Doomer Friday, I join Clint, Pavel and Justin for a deep dive into Robert Bigelow’s latest podcast conversation with current Skinwalker Ranch owner Brandon Fugal. We get into some of the more intriguing claims and stories surrounding the Ranch, the wider mystery around Bigelow’s involvement, and what it could all mean. We also discuss a British MP becoming more openly involved in the UFO conversation, before heading into some fun speculative territory around Disclosure, what it might actually look like, and whether we’re any closer to seeing something significant happen. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

A quick announcement from me, appreciate you listening :) 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

This week, Andy and Pavel examine some of the biggest claims in the UFO world. From Eric Davis’s revelations on the podcast and Tim Gallaudet’s possible Atlantis discovery, to Lazar’s nine recovered craft, Grusch suggesting the real number could be between 25 and 100, and more whistleblowers preparing to speak out. How watertight are these extraordinary claims, and where is the evidence? https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Dr Eric Davis joins Andy for a major conversation about recovered UAP technology, NHI bodies, alleged government contact and decades of secret reverse-engineering efforts. Davis begins with his bottom line up front, explaining why he believes UAP are real, controlled by non-human intelligence and have interacted with humanity for thousands of years. He discusses the classified evidence he says he has personally examined, including original documents and photographs from a foreign Cold War crash retrieval; the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and its alleged storage of preserved NHI bodies; a recovered craft apparently abandoned by its occupants; and evidence of contact involving a government office and defence-industry contractor. The conversation also covers Congress, AARO, the White House PURSUE programme, Trump and the SF-312, Holloman, Kingman, Robert Bigelow, James Lacatski, Jay Stratton, the credibility of different NHI morphologies and reverse-engineering programmes allegedly revived every ten years. This interview contains claims based partly on classified material that is not currently available for independent public examination. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

I’m back on Doomer Friday, joining Clint, Pavel and Xander, with Chris Ramsay of Area 52 also dropping in for a wide-ranging conversation on where the UFO disclosure story goes next. With a growing number of whistleblowers publicly calling on President Trump to waive their NDAs, we discuss whether this really could be a defining moment for disclosure or whether the entire conversation could once again disappear back into the shadows. We also dig into Robert Bigelow’s revealing conversations with George Knapp, the role of the alleged gatekeepers, what they may actually know, and why they might believe keeping these secrets is the patriotic thing to do. Then, with Chris Ramsay joining the discussion, things broaden out into what genuine disclosure would actually look like, whether the public would even accept an official announcement, the political divide surrounding the subject, consciousness, contact experiences and whether there might ultimately be ways to pursue answers without waiting for governments to open the hangar doors. A proper Doomer Friday rabbit hole. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Danny Sheehan returns to That UFO Podcast for another wide-ranging conversation on the hidden structures he believes sit behind the UFO secrecy and disclosure process. In this interview, Danny makes some extraordinary and highly specific claims. He says there are at least nine recovered craft, some fully intact, discusses what he describes as an active communication process with an extraterrestrial civilisation, and alleges that technology exists capable of locating UFOs even when they are completely cloaked. He identifies this alleged system as “Golden Dome.” We also get into the increasingly complicated battle over disclosure: the legacy gatekeepers, the National Security Space Association, the role of Congress, Lue Elizondo, Chris Mellon and David Grusch, and Danny’s claim that fighter pilots are being trained to track, intercept and engage UFOs. Danny also explains why he believes simply getting the President briefed will not solve the problem, why he argues that “all roads lead to Congress,” and why he believes the intelligence community can appear to disclose information while still protecting the deepest secrets. As always, these are Danny Sheehan’s claims and assessments, and throughout the conversation I push for detail on exactly what he believes is happening, who is involved and how he knows. Danny had a LOT to say this time... https://newparadigminstitute.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Andy and Pavel break down another huge week in the UAP conversation, beginning with part two of Robert Bigelow’s new series with George Knapp. Why has Bigelow returned to the spotlight now, and what is he ultimately building towards? The discussion gets into his claims around consciousness and survival after death, the connection between consciousness and the UFO phenomenon, private aerospace contractors, amnesty and what Bigelow appears to believe disclosure should actually look like. Then, David Grusch sits down with Dr. Phil and makes some of his strongest public claims yet: 25–100 recovered non-human craft, living occupants reportedly detained, apparent telepathic communication, something “too large to move,” retrieved bodies and imagery he says he has personally seen. Grusch also hints that a significant part of the phenomenon may not be extraterrestrial at all, raising possibilities including ultraterrestrials, shadow biomes and intelligence originating beneath the oceans. Plus, Dylan Borland makes a direct public appeal to President Trump to declassify UAP evidence, as pressure continues to build around what the administration does next. All that and much more in this latest Monday show. Check out Pavel's show - https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Three huge conversations. One special compilation. This episode brings together some of the standout moments from my recent interviews with Danny Sheehan, Chris Ramsay and Richard Dolan, covering some of the biggest questions facing the UFO topic right now. From disclosure, secrecy and what may be happening behind the scenes, to the behaviour of the phenomenon itself, possible patterns in UFO activity, USOs, 2027 and where all of this could be heading. Whether you heard the original interviews or missed them first time around, this is a collection of some of the most fascinating moments from three of the biggest shows on the podcast. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Today’s sponsor - hims.com/ThatUFO Inspector Roy Teague is a serving UK police officer, researcher and author of Close Encounters of the Police Kind , a collection of UFO and unexplained encounters reported by British police officers. Roy joins me to discuss what he learned from speaking with hundreds of serving and former officers, why so many witnesses stayed silent for years, how police training can affect the way unusual incidents are observed and reported, and the continuing stigma surrounding the UFO subject in the UK. We also get into some of the cases that stood out during his research, including an extraordinary RAF radar incident from 1993, sightings involving police helicopters, how an unusual report would actually be handled by police today, and why Britain remains so reluctant to engage publicly with the UAP issue. A grounded conversation about witness testimony, evidence, stigma and what may be going unreported in UK skies. Close Encounters of the Police Kind is available now. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Andy and Pavel break down Ross Coulthart’s extraordinary new reporting on Skywatcher and what may have happened after the public-facing project went quiet. Ross claims individuals and techniques connected to Skywatcher have effectively been taken “in-house”, with a covert US government operation at White Sands allegedly using the same Dog Whistle technology and psionic methods to summon, detect and even attempt to bring down UAP. He further claims the operation was personally authorised by President Trump and designed to circumvent the alleged Legacy Program. We get into the El Paso shutdown, White Sands, the alleged use of directed-energy weapons, questions over civilian aircraft, Garry Nolan’s involvement, whether Ross’s sources can be trusted, and the uncomfortable ethics of deliberately summoning something only to shoot at it. Plus, TIME Magazine asks why America is finally taking extraterrestrials seriously, as the UFO subject continues its move into mainstream scientific and political discussion. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Buy Andy's book here - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a huge discussion after another packed week in UAP news. We break down Dylan Borland’s extensive interview with Jesse Michaels, including whistleblower retaliation, restitution, disclosure and the extraordinary suggestion that humans may not ultimately be the ones in control. Robert Bigelow is also back, speaking with George Knapp about recovered craft, legacy programs, blanket immunity for gatekeepers and the advice he gave President Trump on potentially acknowledging a non-human intelligence presence. Plus, the fifth official UAP file drop has arrived. We look at what was released, the lack of meaningful contributions from some agencies, the new material on black triangles and why this may be the most disappointing tranche yet. Are we actually moving closer to disclosure, simple confirmation, or something far more controlled? With Clint from The Night Shift, Pavel from Psicoactivo and Xander from Dreamland Motel. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Constitutional attorney Danny Sheehan returns for one of our most direct and grounded conversations yet. Danny reveals what he says was a previously unknown role played by David Grusch in reviewing challenges to the security clearances of Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon following their involvement with The New York Times. He also accuses former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick of ignoring named sources during Danny’s testimony, claiming Kirkpatrick would stop taking notes whenever specific individuals were identified, before later telling Congress that AARO had received no actionable details. We also discuss: Lue Elizondo’s alleged knowledge of UAP activity off Baja and Guadalupe Island, the proposed UAP governance board, whether Elizondo or Grusch should accept a role within it, the presidential NDA waiver, whistleblower protections, amnesty for alleged gatekeepers and the federal racketeering complaint Danny says he has been asked to help prepare. Danny also faces direct questions about evidence, credibility, claims he has rejected and what could ultimately change his own understanding of the phenomenon. https://newparadigminstitute.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Andy joins Pavel for a deep dive into an increasingly divided UFO disclosure movement. They examine the new UAP NDA waiver, Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland’s warnings about AARO, ODNI and PURSUE, and whether whistleblowers are genuinely protected or being directed back into the same system they distrust. They also unpack Lue Elizondo’s response to UAP Gerb, Ross Coulthart’s role in the growing controversy, the competing camps forming around disclosure and the mounting pressure on David Grusch to deliver on his 60-to-90-day timeline. Is this necessary scrutiny, deliberate division or a movement beginning to turn on itself? 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Area 52 creator Chris Ramsay joins Andy for a wide-ranging conversation about how a magician and puzzle creator with seven million subscribers became one of the most distinctive voices in UFO media. Chris explains why he remains low-conviction on most claims, how remote viewing and his experiences connected to the Monroe Institute changed his outlook, and why he believes the current disclosure debate may be distracting people from the real work. Chris also discusses the alleged mobile underwater construction unit, the UFO cases and witnesses he finds most convincing, and why official confirmation may never satisfy the UFO community. Later, he recounts his private conversation with Bob Lazar and explains why Lazar’s reaction raised his conviction, offers a more cautious assessment of Travis Walton, and describes a waking out-of-body experience he believes was distinct from a lucid dream. A thoughtful, funny and surprisingly personal conversation about belief, evidence, consciousness, disclosure and why the mystery may matter as much as the answer. Tickets for Chris's tour - https://itsprobablynothing.com/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy

Andy is joined by Jonathan Caplan KC, one of the UK’s leading criminal barristers and the author of Not for Disclosure: UFOs, The World’s Best-Kept Secret. Drawing on five decades of interest in the subject, Jonathan explains why he believes the UFO phenomenon is real, why governments have kept it hidden and why, in his view, the evidence could meet the criminal standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt. The conversation covers the alleged 1994 craft landing in Russia, Britain’s historic relationship with the United States on UFO matters, Five Eyes, Majestic 12, Rendlesham Forest, private defence contractors, intimidation of insiders and the limits of the current disclosure process. Jonathan also explains why he believes the phenomenon may involve several different forms of non-human intelligence, rather than a single extraterrestrial source. A wide-ranging discussion about evidence, secrecy, national security and what governments may still be withholding from the public. Get the book - https://amzn.eu/d/00p8uJdK 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy