Published by That UFO Podcast
Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena Hosted by Andy McGrillen
Listen on Apple PodcastsAndy is joined by Jonathan Caplan KC, one of the UK’s leading criminal barristers and the author of Not for Disclosure: UFOs, The World’s Best-Kept Secret. Drawing on five decades of interest in the subject, Jonathan explains why he believes the UFO phenomenon is real, why governments have kept it hidden and why, in his view, the evidence could meet the criminal standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt. The conversation covers the alleged 1994 craft landing in Russia, Britain’s historic relationship with the United States on UFO matters, Five Eyes, Majestic 12, Rendlesham Forest, private defence contractors, intimidation of insiders and the limits of the current disclosure process. Jonathan also explains why he believes the phenomenon may involve several different forms of non-human intelligence, rather than a single extraterrestrial source. A wide-ranging discussion about evidence, secrecy, national security and what governments may still be withholding from the public. Get the book - https://amzn.eu/d/00p8uJdK 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Andy is joined by Pavel from the Psychoactivo Podcast to take stock of a UFO topic caught between apparent political progress, persistent secrecy and growing frustration. Three years after David Grusch’s historic congressional testimony about recovered craft and non-human biologics, has disclosure meaningfully moved forward, or are we still treading water? They examine Eric Burlison’s latest comments on whistleblowers and the UAP Disclosure Act, what the announcement about waiving UAP-related NDAs actually changes, and why permission to speak is not the same as genuine legal protection. Also discussed: former CIA officer James Erdman III’s warning about disinformation, counterintelligence and grift within the UFO subject; Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp’s role in the current disclosure effort; the frustration surrounding promised evidence and unreleased material; and reported comments from Lue Elizondo involving Knapp. Plus, listener questions on managed transparency, Donald Trump’s interest in disclosure, the Nazca mummies, media sensationalism and whether the UFO community’s biggest problem is now secrecy, personalities or the continued lack of undeniable evidence. https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Author, explorer and researcher Brad Olsen joins Andy to investigate the enduring mysteries surrounding Antarctica. Brad recounts his own journey to the frozen continent before exploring the extraordinary claims connected to Admiral Richard E. Byrd, Operation Highjump, alleged German bases, ancient maps, pyramid-shaped mountains and the Antarctic Treaty. The conversation also examines reports of unusual radio signals emerging from beneath the ice, theories about hidden civilisations and Hollow Earth, and Brad’s belief that Antarctica may hold one of the most important secrets in the wider UFO disclosure story. Where does documented history end, where does speculation begin, and what could still be hidden beneath the ice? Topics include: Admiral Byrd and his disputed diary Operation Highjump UFOs and alleged secret bases The Antarctic Treaty Ancient maps and lost civilisations Unusual radio and cosmic-ray detections Hollow Earth and underground societies The biggest secret Antarctica may still be keeping Brads work - https://cccpublishing.com/product/secrets-of-antarctica-the-untold-history-of-the-ice-continent/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
President Donald Trump has reportedly directed government agencies to waive non-disclosure agreements for former officials and contractors who want to share relevant UAP information through authorised federal channels. In this breaking news episode, Andy examines what the decision actually means, why witnesses must still approach AARO or the PURSUE task force, and why this is not yet a blanket declassification of UFO information. Could figures such as Lue Elizondo, Eric Davis, James Lacatski or the witnesses interviewed by David Grusch now reveal more? Is this the major development Grusch suggested could happen within 60 to 90 days? And will this finally lead to stronger files, firsthand testimony and evidence reaching the public? The episode also covers the reaction from Eric Burlison, Anna Paulina Luna, Tim Burchett and Avi Loeb, along with the remaining concerns around retaliation, whistleblower protection and trust in the official process. For years, the public has been told that people with firsthand knowledge could not speak because of NDAs. One of those barriers may now have been removed. So, who walks through the door first? 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Andy and Pavel return to break down the latest developments surrounding the US government’s UFO disclosure push. Dan Farah claims another tranche of evidence could arrive within weeks, with “next-level extraordinary stuff” potentially being released before the end of the year. Meanwhile, Dr Phil was reportedly given early access to the latest UFO files alongside a handwritten message from President Trump: “Have fun with this.” Is Dr Phil being positioned as a mainstream messenger for disclosure, or are people reading too much into it? Also discussed: the revised UAP Disclosure Act amendment, the mysterious Reality Transparency Act, David Grusch’s rapidly closing 90-day window, Jeff Nuccitelli joining Vanguard, Ross Coulthart’s interest in the controversial CARET documents, Chris Bledsoe’s fork experiment, billionaire access to alleged UFO secrets, and what may really be happening on the Moon. https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
What if the biggest UFO mystery is not the craft, but the beings inside them? Anthropologist Peter Skafish returns for a deep dive into the alleged occupants behind UAP. Are they biological beings, engineered avatars, artificial intelligence, or something stranger still? We explore why witness reports of beings are often dismissed, even when the same witnesses are trusted on the craft themselves. Peter also examines the recurring humanoid forms, possible communication, motives, different reported types, and what another intelligence might reveal about life, culture and civilisation beyond humanity. Peter also discusses his role on the new UAP Scientific Advisory Council, the latest government file releases, the state of disclosure, and what may still remain hidden. Perhaps the greatest question is no longer how these objects fly. It is who, or what, is operating them. https://thesolfoundation.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Andy is joined by Pavel from Psicoactivo Podcast to discuss claims that the US government successfully lured or baited UAP during a classified operation. They examine what the recently released files actually establish, whether officials have developed methods for attracting mysterious orbs, and what may still be hidden from the public. Also discussed: Matthew Brown’s argument for conditional amnesty within the alleged Legacy Program, the crimes he says must not be ignored, Ross Coulthart’s comments about unreleased images of possible structures on the Moon, alleged secret American bases in Antarctica, and questions surrounding Chris Mellon and those with potential knowledge of the Legacy Program. Check out Pavel's show - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=psicoactivo+podcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Release 4 of the US government’s UFO files has arrived, bringing 23 videos, three NASA images and 14 documents spanning more than 70 years. Andy reviews the most interesting footage, including several fast-moving objects and one unusually clear structure, before examining NASA’s STS-80 images and recent comments from NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman, who acknowledged that NASA has captured imagery it still cannot explain. Also discussed: Dr. Phil McGraw’s early access to the files and his White House advisory connection An unknown object tracked near the Pantex nuclear weapons facility in 2015 Military Range Fouler reports from 2019 and 2020 The classified 1949 Los Alamos green fireball conference Early Project Sign analysis CIA and Project Blue Book documents What is genuinely interesting, what may be prosaic and what is simply older material being repackaged Does Release 4 move the story forward, or are we still waiting for the evidence that changes the conversation? 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Jason Samosa returns for part two of our huge conversation, as we move deeper into the Collins Elite, religious interpretations of the UFO phenomenon, demonic narratives, alien deception, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement. We discuss whether some within government and intelligence circles may have viewed the phenomenon through a biblical or occult lens, how that belief system could influence secrecy, and why apocalyptic predictions and “something is coming” narratives can shape the way people behave. Jason also gives his thoughts on To The Stars Academy, the hybrid narrative, competing factions around disclosure, and whether the battle over UFO transparency is really a battle over who gets to control the story. A wide-ranging second half covering some of the strangest and most controversial threads in the modern UFO conversation. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Jason Samosa joins me for part one of a huge conversation tracing the UFO topic from the post-war era through Roswell, Cold War secrecy, private industry, religious influence, and the early roots of disclosure resistance. We discuss claims around Nazi technology, Operation Paperclip, why the post-World War II national security state created the perfect conditions for secrecy, what Roswell may represent in the wider story, and whether UFO secrecy was ever as simple as “the government knows aliens are real.” Jason also explains why the modern disclosure debate may involve more than classified files and recovered craft, with competing factions, private power, religious framing, and narrative control all playing a role. Part two continues with a deeper dive into the Collins Elite, demonic interpretations of the phenomenon, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement. https://www.youtube.com/@jason_samosa 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Welcome to another, of what we hope will become a regular weekly or bi-weekly catch-up between Andy from That UFO Podcast and Pavel from Psicoactivo. In this episode, Andy and Pavel break down the latest major claims from Dr. Eric Davis, including his comments on alleged alien species, Skinwalker Ranch, Roswell, cattle mutilations, the hitchhiker effect and what can or cannot be said publicly. The conversation also digs into the wider state of the UFO topic right now, including Gerb’s questioning, Hal Puthoff, Skywatcher, alleged orbs, counterintelligence concerns, the problem of cult-like belief systems, and why so many people in this space seem to be pulling in different directions. Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother also jumps in for part of the discussion, adding his thoughts on skywatches, CE5-style claims, evidence, and where the community should draw the line between open-mindedness and belief. The show finishes with discussion around Vanguard, Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, whistleblower support, and what kind of questions the community should be asking next. A loose, honest and wide-ranging UFO roundtable, with plenty of disagreement, humour and big questions. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Andy is back with a packed UFO news update as Roswell anniversary week collides with new disclosure rumours, congressional pressure and major debate inside the UAP community. In this episode, Andy looks at the latest claims around a possible July 8th announcement, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments that an announcement is coming soon, David Grusch’s 60-to-90-day window, and the MKUltra hearing. Also discussed: Ross Coulthart pressing Lue Elizondo over alleged Legacy Program connections, Elizondo’s response on Cuomo, Burchett and Elizondo appearing with Sean Hannity, UAP Gerb questioning Hal Puthoff and Avi Loeb on Fresh Freedom, Eric Burlison’s comments on a confirmed 1952 MIT Lincoln Lab reel-to-reel audio file, and Stephen Greer’s call for a global bypass of the US disclosure process. Plus, Andy answers listener questions on soft disclosure, crash retrievals, China and Russia’s silence, the Legacy Program, David Grusch, and whether the public is being dragged through another cycle of “soon.” 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Former United States Marine Michael Herrera joins That UFO Podcast to discuss his alleged 2009 encounter in Indonesia involving a massive advanced craft, armed personnel, and a story that has only become darker and more complex over time. We get into what he says he saw, why he believes the object looked manufactured rather than traditionally “alien,” what happened afterwards, and how he now connects the incident to UAP secrecy, black programs, psionics, whistleblower protections, Congress, AARO, David Grusch, Steven Greer and the wider disclosure conversation. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
In this special live discussion, I’m joined by Pavel from the Psicoactivo Podcast to break down one of the biggest flashpoints currently developing in the UAP conversation. Ross Coulthart and UAP Gerb have both raised serious questions around Lue Elizondo’s alleged past role within the so-called legacy program, his possible involvement in controlled disclosure, and whether he would be the right person to lead any future UAP transparency effort. We discuss what Ross said, why Gerb’s comments have landed so strongly, the rumoured “UAP czar” role, the divide between controlled disclosure and full transparency, and how David Grusch may have changed the entire direction of the conversation. We also get into the wider implications for whistleblowers, national security, amnesty, The Age of Disclosure, Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, and whether the UAP community is entering a new and more fractured phase. This is not about character assassination. It is a conversation about trust, disclosure, secrecy, and who the public should rely on as this topic moves forward. Check out Pavels show - https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a wide-ranging discussion on the Disclosure Forum, the reaction to the event, the role of new UFO organisations, and whether the public is being prepared for genuine disclosure or a heavily managed version of it. We get into the tone of the Forum, the awards, the lack of truly new information, and the bigger question of what these events are actually trying to achieve. The conversation also turns to whistleblowers like Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, possible executive action around protections, the rumours of a UFO “czar”, and whether any future disclosure process will prioritise truth, accountability, or control. This one goes deep into amnesty, historical crimes, classified reality, national security, the threat narrative, global disclosure, and whether the world would actually change if the truth finally came out. A huge thanks to the Doomer Friday team for having me back on. Topics include: The Disclosure Forum reaction Was the event serious enough? Awards, optics and public trust Whistleblowers and legal protection Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland and Vanguard The possibility of a UFO czar Controlled disclosure vs full disclosure Amnesty, accountability and hidden crimes Would the public care about the cover-up? Is “reality classified”? The threat narrative and national security What disclosure could actually look like Why the world may not change overnight Check out Dans show - https://www.youtube.com/@OFAMpodcast Check out Clints show - https://www.youtube.com/@NightShiftActual Check out Pavels show - https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast Check out Xanders show - https://www.youtube.com/@TheDreamlandMotel 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
This week’s UAP news is moving fast. Andy breaks down the newly discussed UAP Science Advisory Council connected to Avi Loeb, the controversial appointment of Michael Shermer, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments on possible new UAP file drops, the upcoming MKUltra hearing, and the Disclosure Foundation Forum in Washington DC. From Congress and science to intelligence secrecy, whistleblowers, psychology and public trust, the conversation is no longer just about whether UFOs are real. It is about who controls the information, who gets brought into the room, and whether we are seeing real transparency or the next stage of the cover-up. Disclosure Forum - https://disclosure.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Andy is joined by John Priestland and Dr Martin Abbass from Unhidden, a UK-based, medically led organisation looking at one of the most overlooked parts of the UAP conversation: the people. Their new report, *Preparing for Disclosure*, asks what might happen if society is confronted with information that fundamentally changes our understanding of reality, and whether governments, health systems, doctors, therapists and communities are remotely prepared for the psychological and social impact. This conversation explores stigma, experiencers, mental health, ontological shock, public health preparedness, the role of clinicians, and why disclosure — if it ever comes — may not only be a political or scientific issue, but a human one. A different kind of conversation, but an important one. https://www.unhidden.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Professor Avi Loeb returns to That UFO Podcast following his appointment to lead the Science Advisory Council supporting the new U.S. government UAP governance structure. In this conversation, Avi explains how the council came together, who is involved, how it will interact with government agencies, and whether meaningful progress can be made using only unclassified information. We discuss the latest UAP file releases, the role of skepticism within the council, why Michael Shermer was included, whistleblower protections, transparency, and whether the public can expect regular updates from the group's work. We also explore Avi's views on crash retrieval claims, biologics, the possibility of non-human technology, and the debate surrounding Dr. Beatriz Villarroel's pre-Sputnik transient research. Topics include: • The new U.S. UAP governance structure • Avi's role leading the Science Advisory Council • Access to classified vs unclassified data • Recent UAP document releases • Crash retrieval and biologics claims • Whistleblower protections • Michael Shermer's inclusion on the council • Beatriz Villarroel's transient research • The search for conclusive evidence Got thoughts on the new council or a question for a future Avi Loeb appearance? Let me know in the comments. https://avi-loeb.medium.com/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
In Part 2 of my extended conversation with Richard Dolan, we move beyond disclosure politics and into some of the deepest questions surrounding the UFO phenomenon. We discuss whether some aspects of the phenomenon may be darker than many researchers are willing to admit, why Richard believes humanity may be facing challenges of its own making, and what decades of UFO and USO reports suggest about the behaviour of the intelligence behind these encounters. Drawing on research from his new book, A History of USOs Volume 2 , Richard explains how studying patterns across thousands of cases has changed his understanding of the phenomenon and what it may reveal about the long-term presence of these objects around our planet. We also discuss: Whether the phenomenon has our best interests at heart The listener question asking if Richard is "holding something back" Alien behaviour and adaptation Humanity's future and technological dependence Why Richard fears human actions more than non-human intelligence Historical and modern USO cases Underwater UFO encounters Behavioural patterns across decades of sightings The USS Franklin D. Roosevelt case How Richard researched and analysed thousands of reports What the data may reveal about the phenomenon's intentions This is Part 2 of a special extended conversation with Richard Dolan. Richards new book - https://amzn.eu/d/0f8bTqTs 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Richard Dolan returns to That UFO Podcast for a deep dive into the biggest developments in the UFO/UAP conversation right now. In Part 1, we focus on the latest UFO file releases, the ongoing push for transparency, David Grusch's recent comments, and whether what we're witnessing is actually disclosure—or something very different. Richard shares his thoughts on the apparent battle between transparency and secrecy factions, why he believes many people have become caught up in "disclosure mania," and what historical government records reveal about recurring UFO waves and patterns stretching back decades. We also discuss: The latest war.gov/UFO file releases David Grusch and whistleblower protections Whether disclosure is really happening Historical UFO cycles and patterns The 1948 documents and recurring waves The difference between disclosure and contact Alien behaviour and what the phenomenon appears to be doing AI and its impact on humanity's future Why Richard rejects predictions of imminent disclosure events Chris Bledsoe, Lue Elizondo and "something is coming" narratives The current state of the UFO conversation in 2026 This is Part 1 of a special extended conversation with Richard Dolan. Part 2 will focus on USOs, underwater mysteries, the darker aspects of the phenomenon, humanity's future, and Richard's latest research. Richards new book - https://amzn.eu/d/0f8bTqTs 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
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