Rethinking God with Tacos PODCAST

Recorded live at the 2026 Rethinking God with Tacos Reunion, with plenty of laughter and a room full of honest questions, Jason Clark and co-host Derek Turner join C. Baxter Kruger and John Crowder for a wide-ranging conversation about the love of God—and the beliefs that keep us from experiencing it. From hell, salvation, and God’s wrath to speaking in tongues, women in ministry, and raising children beyond fear-based religion, the conversation keeps returning to Jesus and our union with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. With personal stories, theological insight, and some affectionate troublemaking, the guys explore the freedom of trusting Jesus’ faithfulness, discovering God’s presence within us, and growing confident in a love that never quits. C. Baxter Kruger: https://perichoresis.org/ John Crowder: https://www.johncrowder.net/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Jason sits down in Australia with Jesudian Silvester and Gary Grant for a heartfelt, often hilarious conversation about the Father’s love becoming real in our everyday lives. Jesudian shares his journey from religious performance and hidden shame into the freedom of being fully known and loved, while Gary reflects on the friendship and fathering that helped shape a community in Chennai, India. Together, they explore union with God, the healing that happens within safe relationships, and why our theology must find expression in how we love our spouses, children, and one another. Through deeply personal stories, they reveal a Father who never looks away—and a gospel that gives us the courage to stop hiding. For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/JOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://promo.fourriversmedia.com/rethinking-god-with-tacos/JOIN A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

What if freedom isn’t simply escaping pain, fear, or religion—but finally becoming who you were created to be? In this conversation, Jason and Bob Hamp explore the transformational difference between living for God and living from God, why relief is only one stop on the journey to freedom, and how hearing God’s voice untangles the wounds, lies, and false identities that keep the real you hidden. Together, they reimagine discipleship as more than gaining information—it is learning to receive the life of God, rest in His affection, and live as the truest expression of yourself. For More Information on Bob: https://tdacad.com/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

In this deeply moving conversation, Jason sits down with author and minister Terry Tripp to explore what happens when we allow Jesus—not fear, religion, or retribution—to reveal exactly what God is like. Terry shares his journey from growing up on TBN and traveling millions of miles in ministry to discovering the absolute goodness of God, including the sacred moment with his dying father that completely redefined ministry for him. Together, they reconsider the stories of Moses, the woman caught in adultery, and especially Judas—asking whether the church leaves broken people with hope or a rope. This is a powerful conversation about union, grace, identity, the end of separation, and a Father who never stops calling us His friends. For more info on Terry: https://terrytripp.com/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field 76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Bob Switzer returns for a conversation about reading Scripture through one life-changing conviction: God has always been as good as Jesus reveals. Together, Jason and Bob revisit Moses, Jericho, Ananias and Sapphira, and Jesus clearing the temple, exploring what changes when we question the violence attributed to God and recognize the humanity of our biblical heroes. They discuss the freedom to ask questions, trust beyond the need for certainty, and discover a God who is already present with the people we hope to reach. Bob also shares how caring for six eleven-year-old boys is teaching him the long game of love—an affection that keeps showing up, even when it’s resisted. Find Bob’s podcast, The Epic Narrative , at thebobswitzer.com JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field 76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Chris E.W. Green joins Jason for a rich conversation about the goodness of God, the beauty of our humanity, and the healing love revealed in Jesus. Together, they explore how bad theology can contradict what our hearts already know, why sin is better understood through the lens of sickness and healing than punishment and shame, and what it means to be made in the image of the One who heals the world. Chris also reflects on mystery, certainty, prayer, suffering, and the difference between optimism and genuine hope—a hope rooted not in where the world appears to be heading, but in the unchanging goodness of God. For more info on Chris: https://cewgreen.substack.com/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

In this episode, Jason sits down with BEMA Podcast host and author Marty Solomon for a wide-ranging conversation about Scripture, deconstruction, the cross, and the inherent goodness of being human. Marty shares how reading the Bible through its historical and Jewish context revealed a God who has always looked like Jesus—and why deconstruction, done well, is not about destroying faith but preserving something beautiful. Together, they explore nonviolent atonement, covenant as relationship rather than transaction, the problem with total depravity, and the hopeful truth at the heart of Marty’s new book, The Gospel of Being Human: our humanity isn’t something God wants us to escape; it’s something Jesus came to restore. For more info on Marty Solomon: https://www.martysolomon.com/ https://www.bemadiscipleship.com/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Jason and Brooke Waters sit down with Gary Grant to explore the difference between contractual religion and covenantal love—and why transformation begins when we stop trying to earn a belonging that has always been ours. Gary shares his journey from childhood intimacy with God through decades of religious performance and back into the freedom of knowing a Father who never rejects, abandons, or turns away. Together, they discuss union, trust, authentic identity, safe community, escaping religious control, and what happens when faith becomes less about holding everything together and more about learning to live held. For more info on Gary or the Rethinking Salvation: A Taco Family Gathering : https://collectivewisdomacademy.com/Gary JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

In this hope-filled conversation, Jason talks with Steve and Wendy Backlund of Igniting Hope Ministries to explore how our beliefs shape our emotions, relationships, and experience of God. Together, they unpack why hopelessness is often a greater problem than the circumstances themselves, how Jesus reveals the Father's unwavering goodness, and what it means to stop striving for transformation and begin living from our union with God. From shedding false beliefs about ourselves to finding peace amid life’s storms, this conversation is an invitation to rethink what is true, rediscover the hope already within us, and become a living revelation of the good news. For more info on Steve and Wendy: https://www.ignitinghope.com/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Jason sits down with friend and encourager Bob Ingle to trace his journey of faith—from rigid religion and painful rejection to discovering a God too big for buildings, beliefs, and denominations. Together, they explore original innocence, disruptive grace, the church beyond Sunday mornings, and the simple power of treating every person you meet as someone deeply loved and valuable. For more on Bob Ingle: http://www.unheardwordz.com/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Recorded live in Scotland at Wellspring Church, Jason joins David Hewitt and Baxter Kruger for a wide-ranging conversation about what changes when Jesus becomes our lens for everything—Scripture, deconstruction, sin, spiritual warfare, identity, and the finished work. Together, they explore union with Christ, why we were never separated from God, what it means to take sides with Jesus, and the freedom of becoming a walking revelation of the Father’s kindness rather than trying to defend Him. For more info on David Hewitt: https://wellsprings.uk.net/ For more info on Baxter Kruger: https://perichoresis.org/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Jason sits down with pastor and theologian Father Kenneth Tanner to explore his new book, Vulnerable God, and how Jesus reveals both what God is truly like and what it means to be fully human. From Jesus’ hidden years and tears at Lazarus’ grave to the cross and resurrection, Father Kenneth reframes divine power as vulnerability, humility, service, and self-giving love rather than hierarchy and control. Their conversation ultimately becomes an invitation to remember our true identity: made by Love, in the image of God, and invited to “be human as God is human”—carrying peace, forgiveness, and reconciliation into the world. For more info on Father Kenneth Tanner: https://kennethtanner.substack.com/ https://www.instagram.com/kentanner/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

What if Jesus didn’t come to change the Father’s mind about us—but to change our minds about the Father? Jason sits down with Chris Gore to explore his new book, How Good Is the Father, Really?, and the staggering goodness of God revealed in Jesus. From union and the cross to wrath, punishment, healing, and justice, Chris challenges the punitive God many of us inherited and invites us to discover a Father who is “always only good.” Along the way, they explore why the Father never turned His face from Jesus, how wrath might actually be love confronting everything that destroys the beloved, and why the gospel isn’t about escaping earth but bringing love, healing, hope, and life to the world right now. For more info on Chris: https://www.chrisgore.org/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

What happens when church hurt, stage IV cancer, and deep theological reconstruction collide with an unshakable conviction that God is better than we've been told? In this deeply vulnerable conversation, Micole and Bethany Wallace share their remarkable journey—from serving fourteen years as worship pastors, to losing the ministry they thought would be home forever, to discovering Restoration City, walking through reconciliation with former friends, and facing Bethany's stage IV breast cancer diagnosis. Together they explore union with Christ, emotional healing, the impact of trauma on the body, the restoration of relationships, and the radical trust that grows when we stop pleading with God and begin to rest in His unwavering goodness. It's a conversation about worship, healing, forgiveness, hope, and the long game of love that reminds us reconciliation is not just possible—it's at the very heart of the gospel. For more info on Micole, Bethany and Restoration City Church: https://www.restorationcity.tv/ Micole and Bethany lead worship for our Rethinking God with Tacos Reunion. Join us this Sept (24-26) in Charlotte. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/rethinking-god-with-tacos-reunion-2026-tickets-1986548921300?aff=oddtdtcreator JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Jason and Brooke Waters sit down with Stephen K. De Silva for one of the most practical conversations you'll hear on identity, money, and the goodness of God. Together they explore why belief systems always outrun financial skills, how orphan thinking quietly sabotages our lives, why adoption is the heart of the gospel, and what it looks like to build a prosperous soul instead of merely accumulating wealth. If you've ever wrestled with fear, scarcity, performance, or wondered how union with the Father transforms the way you live, work, and steward what you've been given, this conversation offers a refreshing vision of freedom rooted in beloved identity rather than striving. To learn more about Stephen https://prosperoussoul.com/ Free Quiz link for listener: https://links.prosperoussoul.com/widget/quiz/Vwy1zE4dJmxmoW1k12QX JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

In this conversation, Jason and his son, Ethan, sit down with Jim Lovejoy for an honest, deeply personal discussion about leaving behind performance-based Christianity and discovering the freedom of beloved identity. Jimmy shares his remarkable journey from Marine, coach, and revival-driven evangelist to a father, mentor, and voice calling people into rest, family, and the love of God. The guys explore the difference between striving and learning, revival and reformation, church as an event versus church as family, and why the future of the Kingdom may look more like fire pits, shared meals, and authentic relationships than polished stages. If you've ever wondered whether God's love is bigger than your performance, this conversation offers hope, healing, and a fresh vision of what it means to follow Jesus. For more info on Jim: https://www.thenorthgateoh.com/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Justin Paul Abraham joins Jason for one of the most expansive conversations, exploring what happens when the gospel is no longer driven by fear, but by union, joy, and the limitless goodness of God. Together they unpack mystical encounters, the logic of love, contemplative spirituality, technology, creativity, AI, the future of humanity, and why the Kingdom isn't retreating from the world—it's transforming it. From the charismatic movement to ancient Christian mysticism, from heaven invading earth to discovering Christ in every corner of creation, this conversation invites listeners into a bigger, brighter vision of the gospel where love is the organizing principle of reality, and the future has never been more hopeful. For more on Justin: https://www.cobh.live/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

This conversation with author and podcaster Latoya Lackey is about rest, identity, union with God, and the exhausting weight of performance-driven faith. Together, Jason and Latoya unpack how fear-based religion, striving, comparison, and the need for validation keep us disconnected from the peace Jesus modeled. Through stories of burnout, awakening, marriage, ministry, belonging, and discovering the goodness of God, told by voices like Baxter Kruger and the early church fathers, this conversation becomes an invitation to stop living from pressure and start living from presence. If you’ve ever felt exhausted trying to prove yourself to God, others, or even yourself, this episode feels like a deep breath for the soul. For more info on Latoya: https://www.latoyalackeyministries.com/c` b12nm3 JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, Jason sits down with James E. Alderman and Larry Hudson to unpack “the gospel they grew up on” and the journey of waking up to a God who has never turned away. Together they explore fear-based religion, the Romans Road, transactional Christianity, healing, union, identity, and the radical discovery that God is better than we imagined. Through stories of pastoring, deconstruction, friendship, prayer, suffering, healing, and grace, this episode becomes an invitation to stop striving for God’s affection and finally learn how to live loved. If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, separation, church hurt, or trying to earn what was already yours in Christ, this conversation will feel like fresh air for your soul. For more info on James and Larry, go to: https://www.youtube.com/@LettinTheLooseEndDrag/videos JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

What happens when pain tears apart the version of God you were handed? In this deeply moving conversation, Jason sits down with author Katherine Gantlett to explore grief, miscarriage, breast cancer, hope, prayer, and the relentless goodness of God revealed in Jesus. Together they wrestle through questions of suffering, sovereignty, identity, union, and what it means to discover that God never abandoned us in winter seasons. From Brad Jersak and Paul Young to Psalm 22, Julian of Norwich, “Hygge for the Heartbroken,” and the healing power of presence, this episode is a raw and beautiful invitation to stop future-tripping, embrace the divine dance, and discover that even in the depths, Christ is deeper still. Katherine Gantlett https://katherinegantlett.org.uk/ JOIN A Family Story's Mailing List https://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wto JOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8