The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
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How can you become a game changer? Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue. In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer. We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture. What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company. Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level. For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
What if the very thing that made you a great lawyer is the thing preventing you from building a great firm? On this special mashup episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Justin Chopin of Chopin Law Firm, Alex Limontes of Hurst Limontes LLC, Lawrence LeBrocq of Garces, Grabler & LeBrocq, and Charlyn Ho of Rikka Law Group. Together, they share how they stopped trading time for dollars and built scalable, multimillion-dollar firms on their own terms. From ego checks and data-driven marketing to AI adoption and community-first branding, these law firm owners reveal the mindset shifts and systems that set them apart. Here's what you'll learn: Why removing yourself from day-to-day operations is the fastest path to firm growth How data-driven marketing and strategic community activation outperform gut-feeling ad spend What proactive AI adoption looks like (and why firms that ignore it risk extinction) (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:44) Justin Chopin: Betting on Yourself and Building a Firm from Scratch (00:09:38) Growing Through Leadership, Hiring, and Team Culture (00:18:45) Leading Through Crisis and Investing in Your People (00:29:42) Alex Lamontes: Building a Mission-Driven Brand (00:42:10) Scaling with Data, Partnerships, and Community Impact (00:56:31) Lawrence LeBrock: From Trial Lawyer to CEO (01:07:35) Creating a High-Performance Culture Through Accountability (01:13:26) Embracing AI and Leading Organizational Change (01:20:36) Charlyn Ho: Building an AI-First Law Firm (01:35:26) The Future of Legal Innovation and Entrepreneurship (01:45:44) Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Justin Chopin, Chopin Law Firm Alex Limontes, Hurst Limontes LLC Lawrence LeBrocq, Garces, Grabler & LeBrocq Charlyn Ho, Rikka Law Group ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 477. Mike Brown - The Nitty Gritty of AI 431. Rory Baden - Branding Secrets Your Firm Needs to Scale 451. Firm of the Year Winners - Growth Secrets From the Best of the Best
What if the quality your team calls "intimidating" is the same thing responsible for every result you've ever produced? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three listener questions about the uncomfortable truths of firm leadership: what to do when anonymous feedback calls you intimidating, how to stop letting partner consensus paralyze decisions, and why the partner who drives accountability always ends up labeled the villain. This conversation draws a clear line between high standards and bad behavior, and shows why getting to the truth matters more than being popular. Here's what you'll learn: Why seeking 100% partner consensus on every strategic decision is quietly stalling your firm's growth How to hold exceedingly high standards and still create a culture where your team tells you the truth What "disagree and commit" looks like in practice, and why it builds more trust than endless debate If your firm's best ideas keep dying in committee and your team's real feedback never reaches you, this episode explains exactly why. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:52) The World Cup and Being a Fan (00:05:51) Maturity Is Recovery Time (00:09:59) Q1: My Team Calls Me Intimidating (00:12:26) High Standards and Kindness Coexist (00:14:28) Not All Feedback Deserves Action (00:16:11) Q2: My Leaders Resent My Decision (00:17:31) Why Full Consensus Stalls Growth (00:20:49) Disagree But Commit (00:21:34) Q3: I'm the "Bad Guy" Partner (00:24:35) You Don't Have to Be Loved (00:26:08) Wrap Up Links & Resources: Radical Candor by Kim Scott FIFA World Cup 2026 Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 456. AMMA - Why It's Your Fault If Your Team Isn't Performing 375. AMMA - Stop Being The Bottleneck: Lead Your Firm Without Being Needed 284. AMMA - Elevate Your Leadership with Emotional Intelligence
What if the thing separating high performers from everyone else has nothing to do with skill? In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill revisits his conversation with Rich Diviney, retired Navy SEAL Commander and bestselling author of The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance. Rich reveals why the innate qualities that define how we show up under stress, challenge, and uncertainty are far more predictive of success than any resume credential or technical ability, and what that means for leaders building teams in high-stakes environments. Here's what you'll learn: Why the attributes that drive performance under uncertainty can't be taught the same way skills can, and how to develop them anyway How to identify what separates someone who thrives under pressure from someone who folds, long before the pressure arrives What the five categories of attributes (grit, drive, mental acuity, leadership, and team ability) reveal about your own performance profile and the teams you build If you've ever wondered what it actually takes to build a team that performs when things don't go as planned, this conversation is your blueprint. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:17) Rich's Navy SEAL Journey (00:06:26) Attributes vs. Skills (00:10:02) The Five Categories of Attributes (00:13:02) Commonalities Among Top Performers (00:14:37) How to Develop Attributes (00:16:10) Creating Environments That Bring Out the Best (00:19:54) The Neuroscience of Courage (00:26:59) Peak Performance vs. Optimal Performance (00:29:17) Understanding Narcissism as an Attribute (00:32:33) Insouciance and Marching to Your Own Beat (00:36:48) How to Use Your Assessment Results (00:38:52) Real-World Success Stories (00:40:12) What Being a Game Changer Means Links & Resources: The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance by Rich Diviney The Attributes Huberman Lab Podcast Navy SEAL Training Purdue University Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 471. How Core Values Affect Leadership, Culture, and Fulfillment with Robert Glazer 366. How to Transform Your Business with Military Precision and Strategy with John Berry 62. John Maxwell - Leadership is a Verb, Not a Noun
What happens when your industry gets flooded with outside capital, your team won't match your effort, and AI is rewriting the rules overnight? In this special live AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill takes unfiltered questions from law firm owners at the SELECT retreat, covering everything from team motivation to private equity to AI's impact on legal marketing. From why intrinsic drive can't be taught to how to position your firm for a future shaped by PE consolidation, this AMMA is a rapid-fire masterclass in leadership, strategy, and building something worth owning. Here's what you'll learn: Why intrinsic drive can't be coached, and what to do when your team doesn't have it How private equity is reshaping legal, and why the middle of the market is the most dangerous place to be What it takes to attract premium clients through brand, not volume The firms that win from here aren't the hardest working, they're the ones nobody can afford to ignore. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:05) Motivating your team (00:04:30) We no longer coach effort (00:05:25) PE and the future of law firms (00:07:30) The MSO model (00:08:54) Marketing for niche practices (00:10:14) The James Sexton playbook (00:12:20) AI, layoffs, and your team (00:14:45) AI as a growth lever (00:16:28) Should you pursue an MSO? (00:18:25) There is no easy money (00:19:41) Run your own race ---- Links & Resources: Morgan & Morgan James Sexton David Goggins Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins Ken Rideout John Foy & Associates Andrew Huberman Atlanta Tech Village David Cummings ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 456. AMMA - Why It’s Your Fault If Your Team Isn’t Performing 377. AMMA - Market Chaos: How to Not Just Survive, But Thrive 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead
What if the data you're obsessing over is the very thing capping how far you can go? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Andy Walshe, the human performance leader behind Red Bull's high-performance program and the Felix Baumgartner stratosphere jump. They dig into why the metrics everyone chases can only take you so far, and why the traits that truly separate elite performers (character, creativity, how you show up when it's hard) are the ones almost no one is actually training. It's a look under the hood of what elite performance really requires when the stakes are highest. Here's what you'll learn: How character, not metrics, can be the real dividing line between good and elite How to train creativity as a skill instead of treating it as a gift you're born with What it takes to perform under extreme pressure when everything is on the line If you've been optimizing the measurable and ignoring the human, this is your wake-up call. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:40) From athlete to performance coach (00:03:31) Why Red Bull obsesses over performance (00:05:38) What makes elite performers special (00:07:18) Not everything can be measured (00:09:27) Training character and creativity (00:12:00) The Felix Baumgartner jump (00:20:32) Why the Enhanced Games flopped (00:23:12) Training under manufactured fear (00:27:05) The right dose of stress (00:30:00) What cold plunging really trains (00:32:09) No secrets: the 70-20-10 rule (00:36:55) The trait that predicts greatness (00:39:24) Do elite traits cross fields? (00:41:31) Ego, humility, and luck (00:45:47) What it means to be a game changer ---- Links & Resources: Andy Walshe Liminal Collective Red Bull Stratos Felix Baumgartner Joe Kittinger Enhanced Games Australian Institute of Sport ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 338. Will Ahmed - From Stress to Success: Optimizing the Entrepreneurial Journey 298. Rich Diviney - The Fundamental Traits Navy SEALs Use to Excel
The advice you respect most might be the exact thing keeping your firm stuck. In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle one of the hardest questions in growth: whose advice do you actually follow? Sparked by a listener stuck between her own instinct to get ahead of AI and a respected managing partner telling her to "let everyone else be the guinea pig," Michael breaks down why waiting out a technological shift is a decision you'll regret, why the source of advice matters as much as the content, and why doing great work means nothing if you don't market it. Here's what you'll learn: Why waiting on AI is a permanent competitive disadvantage rather than a safe hold How to tell when a mentor's advice fits your season and when it's holding you back What it takes to turn great work into the visibility that actually wins the best cases Your competitors aren't waiting for permission, and neither should you. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:07:18) The claw machine lesson (00:11:26) Q1: Should we wait on AI? (00:12:02) Early vs. late adopters (00:15:47) Growing or dying (00:17:27) Q2: A mentor says slow down (00:18:11) Right advice, wrong season (00:21:23) Why balance can cost you (00:23:54) Q3: The worst advice (00:25:50) Best cases go to marketers (00:27:43) You can't be hired in secret ---- Links & Resources: Apple Vision Pro Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 477. The Nitty Gritty of AI From an Attorney and AI Expert with Mike Brown 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 268. AMMA - Resilience in the Face of Uncertainty
You clawed your way to the top. So why does the fire that got you there feel like it's going out? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Tom Mitchell, the sports psychologist who spent 14 years with the Golden State Warriors and co-authored “The Winning Spirit” with NFL legend Joe Montana. They dig into how elite performers keep their edge long after the money and titles roll in, why the best leaders coach with questions instead of commands, and how one conversation can turn locker-room friction into championship chemistry. It's a masterclass in the mental game, built for the court and the boardroom alike. Here's what you'll learn: Why owning your strengths (not fixing your weaknesses) is what actually gets you paid How to have courageous conversations that eliminate partnership friction instead of letting it fester Why a relentless inner "burn" outlasts raw talent, and how to reignite it when a team gets comfortable Pressure is a privilege, and this episode will change how you carry it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:23) Tom's Path to the Warriors (00:05:06) Discovering the Mental Edge (00:08:43) Courageous Conversations (00:12:43) Coaching vs. Advice Giving (00:15:00) The Question Behind the Question (00:17:49) What Joe Montana Taught Him (00:22:56) Non-Negotiable Standards (00:25:04) Five Principles of Greatness (00:30:58) Reigniting the Burn (00:33:03) Knicks vs. Spurs Breakdown (00:36:33) What Being a Game Changer Means ---- Links & Resources: The Winning Spirit: 16 Timeless Principles That Drive Performance Excellence by Joe Montana and Tom Mitchell Golden State Warriors Los Angeles Lakers Tom Mitchell Joe Montana Billie Jean King Phil Jackson Chris Mullin Mickey Hart Gregg Popovich Sugar Ray Leonard ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 418. Why Discipline Without Toxicity Wins Every Time with Dominique Dawes 255. Joe De Sena - The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 176. George Foreman III - The Fighter’s Mentality
Why does hitting the goal so often kill the drive that got you there? In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three questions from law firm owners who all made it to the other side of success and found something missing. Michael offers advice beyond the usual "set a bigger goal" answer, getting into the mechanics of sustaining performance, why running at full throttle stops working as you scale, and knowing when the grind is actually the right move. Here's what you'll learn: How to rebuild drive when achieving the goal leaves you flat instead of fulfilled Why "simplify complexity" is the first move when growth outpaces your systems How to pace a team for consistent output instead of burning it out at full intensity If you've won the thing you set out to win and it feels quieter than you expected, this one recalibrates what comes next. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:40) Triathlon Race Recap (00:10:09) Post-Race Pop Up Bagels (00:14:12) Q1: Disconnected After a Big Win (00:15:33) Why Hitting the Goal Feels Empty (00:17:19) Q2: When Growth Outpaces Your Systems (00:20:03) Scaling From $5M to $16M in Three Months (00:21:33) Protect What the Client Feels (00:22:26) Q3: When Calm Is the Problem (00:25:20) Consistency Beats Intensity (00:27:16) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Ironman Growing Pains ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 446. AMMA - How to Know If Hard Work Is Worth It 431. Branding Secrets Your Firm Needs to Scale with Rory Vaden 403. AMMA - How To Scale Beyond Growth Basics
There are about to be two kinds of professionals: the ones who command AI, and the ones who get commanded by it. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Mike Brown, a personal injury attorney with zero coding background who taught himself to build with AI agents and then beat 15,000+ applicants to win Anthropic's 2026 Global Claude Code Hackathon. They dig into why so many lawyers are waiting for AI to mature while a small group is already compounding a serious advantage, and why the real dividing line has nothing to do with technical skill. It comes down to curiosity, discipline, and a willingness to be bad at something for one uncomfortable week. Here's what you'll learn: What "vibe coding" actually is and why you don't need to know how to code How to prevent hallucinations, protect client privilege, and actually trust the output you get What it takes to go from overwhelmed to automated with a three-week plan any firm owner can run The people pulling ahead with AI are not the technical ones. They are the curious ones. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:03:04) What vibe coding actually is (00:06:15) Why he bet on ChatGPT early (00:09:03) How the models evolved (00:14:29) Producers vs. consumers (00:15:48) Could AI run a whole firm? (00:19:39) Fixing the housing permit crisis (00:22:26) Will AI kill jobs or create them? (00:26:33) Robotics and the hardware layer (00:34:04) AI for health and longevity (00:43:16) Beating AI's confirmation bias (00:48:18) Wrap-Up ---- Links & Resources: Crossbeam Anthropic Boris Cherny Gary Tan Andrew Huberman ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 392. How One Startup Is Rewriting the Rules of PI Law with Ray Mieszaniec 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 321. Kyle Bachus - Harnessing Technology for Legal Success
Most firm owners think they have a strategy problem. What they actually have is a standards problem. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill take on three questions every growth-minded firm owner eventually faces: why a six-figure software implementation still isn't sticking, whether to make a major hire before everything feels "ready," and what to do when an org chart that hasn't changed in years stops fitting the business. Michael makes the case that waiting, outsourcing, and settling for "fine" are all the same problem wearing different clothes, and that the fix starts with owning the standard yourself. Here's what you'll learn: Why outsourcing leadership lets your standards slip, and how to pull them back How to tell the difference between being responsible and just procrastinating on a decision you've already made What it really takes to know whether your team and structure can carry you to the next level Stop waiting for the right time, the right hire, or the right consultant to save you: this episode is your push to own the standard yourself. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:47) What Michael's Reading & Watching (00:09:15) Q1: A Software Fix That Won't Stick (00:09:56) You've Outsourced Your Standards (00:12:14) Why Projects Never Ship (00:13:45) Q2: The Hire He Keeps Procrastinating (00:14:49) Waiting for Ideal Conditions (00:16:52) Q3: An Org Chart Frozen For Years (00:18:55) Why Scaling Demands a New Org (00:20:10) Would You Rehire Everyone? (00:20:47) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Earned by Chris Pronger Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinniman Widow's Bay Pantheon Ready Player One by Ernest Cline Tony Robbins ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 456. AMMA - Why It’s Your Fault If Your Team Isn’t Performing 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 240. Jessica Mogill - Why Hiring A-Players is Important
What if loving something (your country, your work, your own self-image) actually requires being brutally honest about its flaws? In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Dolly Chugh, social psychologist, behavioral scientist, and bestselling author, to unpack why our brains are wired for consistency instead of objectivity, and how guilt and shame can become engines for real growth. They get into the "psychology of good people," the trap of the flawless narrative, and what it takes to keep getting better instead of defending a story that no longer fits. It's a conversation about replacing brittle perfection with something far more durable. Here's what you'll learn: Why a "good person" is a fragile identity, and what to build instead How to give a real apology that actually resets the relationship What the "long time ago illusion" is, and how it distorts your judgment The version of yourself you're defending might be the thing holding you back. This one will make you rethink it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:48) Becoming a psychologist (00:05:29) The psychology of good people (00:07:29) No one is good all the time (00:09:02) Canceling and growth (00:14:52) Home team bias (00:17:09) The gritty patriot (00:20:40) Guilt vs. shame (00:29:52) The "long time ago" illusion (00:35:32) What makes an apology work (00:36:53) George Takei's story (00:41:13) Being a game changer ---- Links & Resources: A More Just Future by Dr. Dolly Chugh Dr. Dolly Chugh Grit by Angela Duckworth The Power of Us by Jay Van Bavel and Dominic Packer Mindset by Carol Dweck Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson George Takei Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder Buffalo Soldier by Bob Marley ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 330. Jay Van Bavel - Bias, Belonging, and the Battle for Truth 275. Kim Scott - The Power of Radical Respect 121. Ben Crump - Speaking Truth to Power: The Fight for Social Justice in America
If your team has stopped challenging you, that’s not alignment, it’s a warning sign. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill unpack what really happens when decisiveness turns into dismissiveness. From ignored warnings and bad assumptions to ego-driven leadership and the cost of fake collaboration, Michael breaks down why strong leaders don’t just make decisions fast, they stay open to what they’re not seeing. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why decisiveness can become dangerous when you stop listening to the people closest to the work How to create a culture where your team brings you hard truths before problems explode What it takes to hold strong opinions without letting ego override better ideas and better data If you want better decisions, stop acting like your perspective is the only one that matters. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:03:55) Q1: Decisive without dismissive (00:04:31) Ego is the real blind spot (00:07:52) Q2: Don't train your team to be silent (00:09:09) Worry about what you can't see (00:09:48) Strong opinions, loosely held (00:12:56) Q3: When input is just theater (00:15:29) Give people a chance to fail (00:16:06) Why great ideas come from the team (00:17:57) Outro ---- Links & Resources: “Strong opinions, loosely held” (Paul Saffo) First principles thinking ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 433. Everything You Need To Know to Overhaul Your Firm’s Culture with Cy Wakeman 389. AMMA - Stop Fixing $5 Problems and Start Solving $1M Ones 158. Alex Hormozi - The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success
What if everything you believe about your brain inevitably slowing down with age is simply wrong, and you have far more control than you ever imagined? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with neuroscientist, performance coach, and self-described "elite-level professional nerd" Dr. Tommy Wood to dismantle the myth that cognitive decline is destiny. Drawing on his work treating brain injury, advising Formula 1 drivers, and his new book, “The Stimulated Mind,” Dr. Wood lays out a simple framework for keeping your brain sharp at any age, and explains why the small, daily inputs matter far more than you think. For high performers running hard and recovering little, this is the wake-up call your brain has been waiting for. Here's what you'll learn: Why your brain can adapt and improve at any age, and how your expectations alone can change the outcome How to apply the three-S model (stimulus, supply, support) to protect cognitive function for life What it takes to use AI as a tool that sharpens your skills instead of quietly eroding them Your brain is not on a fixed downward path, and this episode is your blueprint for proving it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:27) Becoming a Neuroscientist (00:05:32) What Is a Healthy Brain? (00:07:56) Does Aging Slow You Down? (00:11:30) The 3-S Model for Brain Health (00:17:59) Shifting the Aging Mindset (00:22:40) The Minimum Effective Dose (00:28:16) Does AI Make You Dumber? (00:36:59) Learning Faster as an Adult (00:42:38) Why Your Brain Needs Connection (00:49:56) Inside the Minds of F1 Drivers (00:55:42) Where to Start (00:57:48) Being a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: The Stimulated Mind: Future-Proof Your Brain from Dementia and Stay Sharp at Any Age by Tommy Wood Why Brains Need Friends by Ben Rein Hintsa Performance ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 364. How to Train Your Brain for Unbelievable Success 116. Steven Kotler - Harnessing Neuroscience for Peak Performance
The work that drains you isn't a discipline problem. It's a sign you've been ignoring. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill dig into what happens when a firm owner's instincts no longer match what the business actually needs. Michael makes the case that the parts of the work you dread, the growth you can't seem to unlock, and the partner you keep clashing with are all pointing at the same thing: a truth about how you're built that you've been working around instead of working with. Here’s what you’ll learn: How to tell whether you're a visionary or an integrator, and why forcing yourself to be both will burn you out When optimizing a business that already works stops paying off, and what to do to actually grow it How to keep a partnership from breaking when you and your partner no longer share the same appetite for risk Stop white-knuckling the parts of your business that drain you and start building toward the version that doesn't. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:37) Family life & summer camp tales (00:07:49) Q1: Visionary or integrator? (00:11:53) Q2: Stuck at a revenue plateau (00:16:55) Q3: When partners stop aligning (00:21:30) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Rocket Fuel by Gino Wickman Walt Disney Roy Disney Deadliest Catch ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 452. AMMA - The Unexpected Truth About Happiness, Work Ethic, and Priorities 325. AMMA - Pressure, Priorities, and Progress: Mastering the Price of Success 47. Jessica Mogill - A Transformational Partnership: How Opposites Attract
Most people spend twenty years climbing a mountain, reach the top, and realize they never wanted the view. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Robert Glazer to break down why core values are the most underused tool in leadership. They get into where your values actually come from, why you can't coach them into the people you hire, and why most leaders are measuring their teams with the wrong scorecard entirely. If you've ever hit a milestone and felt nothing, this conversation explains why, and what to do about it. Here's what you'll learn: Why your core values were set early in life, and what it costs you to lead without knowing them How to hire for the values people actually live instead of the ones they perform in interviews What separates a real company core value from a poster on the wall nobody believes in The view from the top is only worth it if you picked the right mountain to climb. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:06:07) Where core values come from (00:07:11) Can your values change? (00:09:00) The car-in-a-tunnel analogy (00:11:35) Personal vs. company values (00:16:59) The big three life decisions (00:19:17) Why knowing isn't doing (00:21:25) The four capacities (00:27:36) Money, happiness, and “enough” (00:32:12) Biggest leadership mistakes (00:34:01) Spotting leadership potential (00:38:53) Rethinking the two-week notice (00:43:16) How success gets redefined (00:44:09) What it means to be a game changer ---- Links & Resources: The Compass Within by Robert Glazer Elevate by Robert Glazer The Go-Giver by Bob Burg Arthur Brooks Morgan Housel Traction by Gino Wickman ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 417 - The Secret to Building a Brand People Love with Steve Carse 338. Will Ahmed - From Stress to Success: Optimizing the Entrepreneurial Journey 251. Alex Hormozi - The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success
The most valuable thing you can build into your firm is its ability to run without you. In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer the questions most firm owners put off until it's too late. When should you really start succession planning? How do you pick a successor without letting loyalty override the right call? And how do you build something worth more than the income it generates while you're in it? Michael makes the case that a firm dependent on its owner is a firm that's quietly losing value, and he lays out what it takes to change that. Plus, he kicks things off with his favorite recent movies, shows, and books. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why succession planning should start at least five years out, and what happens when you wait until your back's against the wall How to separate the discomfort of a hard conversation from the decision that's actually right for the business What it takes to turn your firm into an asset that grows whether or not you show up If something happened to you tomorrow, would your firm survive without you? Build like the answer needs to be yes. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:48) Michael's Favorite Things (00:05:36) Books Worth Reading (00:10:07) How Early to Plan Succession (00:14:25) Loyalty vs. The Right Successor (00:18:38) Building a Firm Beyond Income (00:23:42) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Togo Altered Carbon Spider-Man Noir The Penguin Godzilla Minus One King Kong (2005) Fallout Not Just a Goof Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke Everything You Want Is on the Other Side of Hard by Ken Rideout Smile, or You're Doing It Wrong by Andy Glaze The Power of the Dog by Don Winslow The Cartel by Don Winslow The Border by Don Winslow We Are Legion (We Are Bob) by Dennis E. Taylor Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir Life Is Luck by John Morgan You Can't Teach Hungry by John Morgan You Can't Teach Vision by John Morgan ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 469. How to Turn Your Darkest Failures into Unstoppable Drive with Ken Rideout 455. From Addict to UltraRunner: The Ultimate Redemption Arc with Andy Glaze 320. John Morgan - Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality
What if the same thing that nearly destroyed you is the reason you become unstoppable? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Ken Rideout, world champion marathoner, former Wall Street trader, and recovering addict whose life reads like a story most people wouldn't believe. From a rough, blue-collar upbringing in Massachusetts to winning an ultramarathon across the Gobi Desert, Ken's path has been anything but linear. This conversation digs into how grit actually gets built, why money never filled the void he expected it to, and what it takes to bet on yourself when everyone around you says you can't. Here's what you'll learn: Why toughness isn't something you're born with, and how you can teach it to yourself Why money won't make you happier, even after going from broke to wealthy What it takes to turn a failure into the fire that drives everything after Ken built his comeback one decision at a time, and this episode shows you how to do the same. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:19) Why Ken wrote the memoir (00:04:33) A rough upbringing (00:07:49) Is hustle born or built? (00:09:23) The road to Wall Street (00:14:47) Money, watches, and insecurity (00:16:10) How addiction took hold (00:17:24) The constant struggle to stay sober (00:19:37) Why high achievers are wired differently (00:22:03) Finding endurance sports (00:24:24) Quitting the Ironman World Championships (00:32:10) The race across the Gobi Desert (00:39:15) How he defines success now (00:47:33) What it means to be a game changer ---- Links & Resources: Ken Rideout Everything You Want Is on the Other Side of Hard by Ken Rideout David Goggins Mitchell Hooper Darren Waller Mat Fraser Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer Elon Musk Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 412. Why Doing Hard Things Is the Ultimate Advantage with Joe De Sena 170. Mat Fraser - The Fittest Man on Earth 141. David Goggins - Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within
The anger that fuels growth can become the thing that slows it down. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that reveal a pattern hiding beneath the surface of almost every high-achieving firm owner: the chip on the shoulder that fueled the climb is still there, long after the summit. From dark energy and manufactured adversity to betrayal, forgiveness, and the stories we carry from past partnerships, this episode unpacks how to evolve your fuel source without losing your edge. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why the dark energy that drives early success has a shelf life, and how to shift to a fuel source that doesn’t cost you the people around you How to stop carrying past betrayal into your current relationships and reset your default to trust before it’s broken Why rewriting the story of a painful falling out, through forgiveness and gratitude, is the move that actually sets you free You’ve already proven you can build something. This episode is about deciding who you’re going to be while you keep going. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:06:46) Why No Friction Equals Unhappiness (00:08:37) Q1: When Anger Stops Fueling You (00:10:52) Letting Go of Proving Others Wrong (00:13:15) Q2: Carrying Past Betrayal Forward (00:19:25) Forgiveness Is for You, Not Them (00:20:10) Q3: When the Past Still Lingers (00:26:51) Choosing Friction Over Comfort ---- Links & Resources: The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek John Morgan Mike Tyson ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 407. AMMA - Why Playing It Safe Is the Most Dangerous Strategy 381. AMMA - The Hardest Mindset Shift for Law Firm Owners to Make 229. David Goggins - Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within
Elite performance does not come from chasing more hacks. It comes from knowing what matters, cutting what does not, and executing when conditions are not perfect. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Andy Galpin to break down what separates truly high performers from everyone else. From toughness and self-talk to sleep, strength training, and resilience, Dr. Galpin explains why better performance starts with fewer distractions and better constraints. Here's what you'll learn: Why toughness means producing even when the conditions are working against you How to identify the real constraints holding back your energy, focus, and performance What it takes to build resilience through sleep, strength training, and smarter recovery Stop chasing every new protocol. The people who perform at the highest level focus on what actually moves the needle. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:22) What elite performers do differently (00:06:09) Mental toughness and self-talk (00:15:38) Why adaptability beats optimization (00:21:59) What resilience actually means (00:29:19) Why most people fail to improve (00:32:27) Strength training and longevity (00:44:16) Health trends and wasted effort ---- Links & Resources: Dr. Andy Galpin Perform with Dr. Andy Galpin Rick Rubin Methylene blue VO2 max Zone 2 training Hyperbaric oxygen therapy Red light therapy ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 452. AMMA - The Unexpected Truth About Happiness, Work Ethic, and Priorities 435. The 15-Minute Habit That Prevents Attorney Burnout with Leah Lagos
Your edge is not how hard you push. It is how fast you recover, reset, and get back on track. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill break down the difference between discipline and rigidity, burnout and misallocated energy, and rest and weakness. From missed workouts and cheat meals to draining team members and recovery as a competitive advantage, this AMMA is a blunt reminder that high performance is not about being perfect. It is about knowing what costs you energy, what restores it, and what you refuse to tolerate. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why getting off track only matters if you cannot get back on track How to identify the work, people, and habits that drain your energy What it takes to make recovery a competitive advantage instead of a guilty pleasure You do not need to be perfect to stay disciplined. You just need the discipline to come back stronger the next day. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:42) Discipline vs. Enjoying Life (00:05:05) Why One Bad Day Changes Nothing (00:05:32) Getting Back on Track Matters (00:10:05) Q1: Burnout Without Overwork (00:16:18) Q2: Is Recovery an Advantage? (00:22:02) Q3: High Performers Who Drain You ---- Links & Resources: Atlas Restaurant The Garden Room Michelin Guide ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 430. AMMA - What Separates The Pros From The Rest 420. The Sleep Science That Separates Elite Performers with Dr. Michael Breus
