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Interviews with experts, writers, psychologists and more on the intersection between psychology, religion and spirituality… with a little bit of cussing. dan@religiononthemind.com
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We're back with another Generation Gap Culture Hour! Guests: Tony Jones, Josh Gilbert Topics: Theology Beer Camp recap (4:50) Interviewing Ilia Delio (9:16) What are you reading? (25:22) Patron-only (from 32:15): Tony and Dan's reading (32:40) Bar, Bank, Church, Dispensary, CrossFit (49:45) Too invested in politics? (56:30) Media and the attention economy (1:21:05) Raising civically engaged kids (1:32:30) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guests: Myron Penner, Matthew Segall, and Sarah Lane Ritchie (Live at Theology Beer Camp) Sign up for the Theology Beer Camp email list to get announcements and early access tickets to TBC 2027! Topics: Components of meaning (5:28) Meaning after faith change (19:57) Subjective meaning (33:23) Meaning vs. happiness (42:05) AI and disenchantment (51:07) Divine hiddenness (1:00:41) Post-deconstruction community (1:06:53) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest: Ilia Delio (Center for Christogenesis) Sign up for the Theology Beer Camp email list to get announcements and early access tickets to TBC 2027! Topics: Medieval religion, modern universe (7:52) Fortress mentality (13:40) Learning to trust yourself (23:29) Patriarchy (31:15) Missing what you left (46:37) Religion’s evolutionary origins (49:58) Jesus as evolutionary emergence (1:00:28) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guests: Tony Jones, Josh Gilbert (Generation Gap Culture Hour Live from Theology Beer Camp) Sign up for the Theology Beer Camp email list to get announcements and early access tickets to TBC 2027! Topics: Death of the dinner party (6:50) Male friendship (20:20) Social anxiety and modeling (27:10) Patron-only (from 34:15): Codependency in marriage (37:00) Location sharing (56:10) Becoming our fathers (1:06:50) Intensive parenting (1:09:50) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Returning guest: Lindsay Strannigan (Purity Culture Regrets, Martyrdom Expectations) Stranniganandsons.com/about Topics: Raised female in evangelicalism (6:13) Biola and Christian music (14:18) Total commitment mindset (24:06) Patron-only: Finding an Episcopal church (38:26) 75% on fire (1:00:48) Epistemic humility (1:15:05) Minimal political engagement (1:24:25) __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Returning Guest: John Van Deusen (Bandcamp) Listen to this episode's playlist Topics: Genre-bending worship music (3:36) Holy misfits (13:15) Alternative Christian music scene (22:34) Big tent vs. niche art (31:27) Performative politics (43:40) Zooming out and small lives (56:28) Afterlife and nonexistence (1:14:05) Previous Episode's with John Van Duesen: "Chrisitan Music": John Van Duesen (#94) Emergency Pod: Processing the Capitol Insurrection with John Van Deusen Still Christian: Tyson Motsenbocker & John Van Deusen (#234) Episode with Andy Squyres: Worries About Progressive Christianity __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest: Brad Johnson (Paradox Coaching) Topics: Pastor's kid in Texas (3:07) Christian music career (11:15) Losing the church job (33:21) The tree of knowledge (37:45) Terror management theory (1:03:45) Coaching versus therapy (1:14:38) Accountability in coaching (1:23:33) __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guests: Josh Gilbert and Kristen Tideman Topics: Therapy vs. coaching (3:48) Licensure and regulation (11:20) Scope of practice (20:47) Actionable plans (38:00) Existential psychology (45:14) Religious landscape expertise (52:00) Trauma and self-diagnosis (58:27) __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest: Tyler Huckabee | Sojourners, RELEVANT Megazine Tyler's Article | Reckoning With the Youth Group That Raised Us Topics: • Adolescent development (8:36) • Columbine and martyrdom culture (14:45) • Braveheart (25:00) • Youth group as third space (31:44) • Summer camp autonomy (37:45) • Deficit-based views of teenagers (56:55) • Doubt and the exvangelical wilderness (1:02:48) • Trump and belief (1:09:10) __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest: Tripp Fuller (Homebrewed Christianity) Topics: • Cognitive-existential therapy (11:56) • Self-deception & “ultimate concern” (27:06) • ADHD & embodiment (31:09) Patron Half • “The Hell of the Same” (43:00) • Wasting your life in every era (1:00:45) • Christian bookstore CDs & punk rock (1:20:14) • College Counseling & Young Adults (1:44:31) • The dark magic of rock and roll (1:47:02) __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
**Participate in my next Spiritual Abuse Research Study** Guest: Jay Michaelson (Both/And) Topics: Why "spirituality" makes a bad communicator (3:07) Reb Zalman Schachter-Shalomi, and inventing God in our own image (5:04) Psychedelics, myth-making, and religion as "proto peer review" (16:56) The case for spirituality's broadness (32:04) Crystals, gurus, and spotting spiritual abuse (38:07) Peak experiences, Kierkegaard's leap of faith, and the trouble with certainty (59:07) Previous Episode with Jay: Rabbi and Journalist Jay Michaelson (#366) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guests: Tony Jones & Josh Gilbert (Generation Gap Culture Hour returns!) Topics: Culture roundup: alliteration bios, Son of Helena, dude lit & Lonesome Dove (1:58) The Odyssey: theater reactions, IMAX chaos & the OCD popcorn guy (14:33) Nolan's rewrite: war, Xenia & the Christianization of the Odyssey (23:11) Patron Half Begins (35:44) Casting choices: Helen, Elliot Page & the "DEI" debate (36:19) Oral tradition, the Emily Wilson controversy & Nolan/Bond rumors (44:27) Agamemnon's sacrifice, Isaac & OCD scrupulosity (54:54) Writing historical fiction: polenta, plums & Constantine's conversion (1:03:22) AI as research assistant: therapy, health & the future of work (1:16:12) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode #370 | Trusting Yourself After Religious Change *Original Description * To Trust Your Experience (Dustin Kensrue) (#38) Is experience potentially a direct pathway to the God of the universe? Or is it simply “the heart [being] deceitful above all things”? Can we trust our spiritual experience, and if so, which experiences are trustworthy? This topic was recommended by my guest Dustin Kensrue (singer/songwriter of the band Thrice, former worship director at Mars Hill Church in Seattle), and I jumped at it. In today’s episode, we go through Dustin’s own story, from young Christian punk rocker, to prominent Neo-Calvinist, to church scandal whistleblower (sort of), to reconstructed liberal Christian, all the while considering the role of experience in that journey. ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
**Participate in my next Spiritual Abuse Research Study** Guest: Jenn Mason (WinkWink Boutique) Topics: Growing up Jewish in a small rural town and rediscovering Judaism as an adult (1:43) National media attention, antisemitic harassment, and finding a spiritual framework (6:26) Why read the Gospels: side-eye toward Christianity and swimming in a Christian culture (10:57) Softness, disability, and getting "off template" (24:53) First impressions of Matthew: the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus at the center (34:23) Anti-Pharisee texts, the Great Commission, and the religion of Jesus vs. Christianity (43:32) Jenn on Instagram | @jenniferidamason ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
**Participate in my next Spiritual Abuse Research Study** Guest: Valerie Martin (Gaia Center / But For Real Podcast) Topics: Tarot, astrology, and Valerie's path into new age spirituality (4:57) Wellness coaching, MLM culture, and spiritual bypassing (10:53) Cialdini's Influence: social proof and identity enmeshment (24:03) Money, ethics, and the "Wild West" of spiritual coaching (31:24) Patron Break The Telepathy Tapes: facilitated communication and the case for and against (43:51) Near-death experiences, psi phenomena, and the limits of a materialist brain (1:00:53) Follow Valerie / the Gaia Center: Gaiacenter.co But For Real podcast: But For Real___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
**Participate in my next Spiritual Abuse Research Study** Guest: Daryl Van Tongeren Returns! (Hope College / "Done") Topics: What is existentialism and existential psychology? (5:25) Does life have a predetermined purpose, or do we make our own? (19:00) Faith and uncertainty (42:21) Objective morality, self-sacrifice, and the doormat problem (54:02) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
**Participate in my next Spiritual Abuse Research Study** Guests: Victoria Jackson & Terry Shoemaker Topics: Religion, sport, and the sacred — evangelical baggage and finite vs. eternal stakes (7:00) Maradona's "Hand of God" and sport as modern mythology (13:42) Victoria's World Cup travel plans and fan culture on the road (20:36) FIFA corruption, Infantino, and Trump's soccer obsession (36:13) Masculinity, grace, and violence across sports (44:45) Promotion, relegation, and why an MLS club costs more than Bournemouth (56:29) Final predictions: teams to watch (58:00) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guests: Tony Jones & Josh Gilbert (Generation Gap Culture Hour returns!) Topics: Culture roundup: All the Pretty Horses, Dave on Hulu, The Strokes (3:28) Streaming piracy & the ethics of stealing (19:58) Dude lit & the book club (30:53) Men and reading (Tony's Substack crossover moment) (36:27) Patron Half Begins (46:55) World Cup (46:30) Down Syndrome screening, disability & ethics of life (1:01:40) Jesus and the just world hypothesis (1:14:54) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest: Daryl Van Tongeren Returns! (Hope College / "Done") Topics: Are most people living in a kind of illusion? (0:00) How people spend their time (17:14) What makes humans special: Christianity and existentialism agree (27:37) The five givens of existence and how Christianity responds to them (32:23) Religious certainty and the road to violence (45:14) It's never too late (48:14) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest: Daryl Van Tongeren Returns! (Hope College / "Done") Topics: What is existentialism and existential psychology? (5:25) Does life have a predetermined purpose, or do we make our own? (19:00) Faith and uncertainty (42:21) Objective morality, self-sacrifice, and the doormat problem (54:02) ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by Nickryanluevano.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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