HVAC Know It All Podcast

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie talks with Jamie Chadwick , HVAC Product Manager at Testo Instruments - North America , about putting safety first during heating service and maintenance. They explain testing before and after repairs, recognizing possible carbon monoxide exposure, preparing an analyzer, and selecting a sampling location. Technicians will learn how these practices support safer testing and help document their work. Jamie draws on his contracting experience and current training work to connect analyzer procedures with field conditions. His approach emphasizes checking equipment before making changes, verifying operation afterward, and recognizing when emergency services need to make a site safe. He also explains why general training cannot replace checking local codes and manufacturer requirements. Key Takeaways How testing before and after service helps document equipment condition and demonstrate the effect of maintenance. Why reported headaches, lightheadedness, or nausea warrant attention to possible carbon monoxide exposure and personal CO monitoring. Why suspected hazardous CO conditions call for evacuation and emergency assistance rather than attempts to continue troubleshooting. How zeroing an analyzer in clean outdoor air and allowing equipment operation to stabilize helps prepare for combustion testing. Why sampling location matters for flue temperature and efficiency readings, and why an outdoor termination reading may not match a reading near the appliance. Key Timestamps 00:00 - Factory Direct Filters Ad 00:42 - Guest and Episode Introduction 03:52 - Importance of the safety of the machine 07:14 - What do the training for Combustion Analysis include? 12:22 - A walk-through of the Combustion Analysis call 15:59 - Correct position to put the Combustion Analyzer Probe 19:17 - Jamie's take on shoving the probe in the termination outside This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Company on: Jamie Chadwick - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-chadwick-b72a43148/ Testo Instruments - North America - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/testo-usa/ Testo Instruments - North America - Company Website: https://www.testo.com/en Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie talks with Gaetano Altomare , Category Manager - Plumbing at IPEX by Aliaxis , about installing nonmetallic flue gas venting correctly. They cover pipe preparation, solvent welding, inspection, primer requirements, and combustion testing. Listeners will learn how to avoid weak connections and preserve vent integrity during installation and service. Gaetano brings firsthand knowledge of certified venting products, manufacturer installation guidelines, and the development of dedicated combustion-testing fittings. His manufacturer's perspective connects the mechanics of pipe-and-fitting fusion with practical field decisions, including cutting older pipe, verifying compatible components, and sealing test-access plugs. Key Takeaways How square cuts, beveled ends, clean pipe surfaces, and a dry-fit interference check help produce a properly fused vent connection. Why certified vent systems require components from one manufacturer and how optical brighteners help inspectors verify primer and solvent cement use. How local requirements, installation temperatures of 32°F and colder, and pipe sizes of six inches and larger determine primer use for the products discussed. How a dedicated combustion-testing fitting installed within two feet of the appliance provides probe access without drilling the vent pipe. Why the test-access plug discussed requires two full turns of Teflon tape rather than relying on plastic threads alone to seal. Key Timestamps 00:00 – Factory Direct Filters Ad 00:42 – Episode Introduction 03:14 – Cost difference between PVC and CPVC 08:18 – Glue or chemical bonding 11:21 – Primer requirements for temperature and local jurisdiction 12:33 – Combustion testing without drilling vent pipe 14:36 – Final installation lesson: sealing the test-access plug This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Company on: Gaetano Altomare - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gaetano-altomare-85a78833 IPEX by Aliaxis - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ipexbyaliaxis/ IPEX by Aliaxis - Company Website: https://ipexna.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero welcome Eric Fitz , Co-founder, Co-CEO, and Chief Technology Officer at Amply Energy, Inc. , and Ed Smith , Co-founder, Co-CEO, and Chief Customer Officer at Amply Energy, Inc. , to discuss how contractors can adapt their sales and design processes for heat pumps. They explore why accurate load calculations matter, how visual design tools help homeowners understand recommendations, and how to make a longer assessment a clear point of difference. The discussion also covers charging for design work, setting expectations during intake, and matching sales responsibilities to the team's expertise. Eric and Ed began with whole-home electrification projects across New England, combining weatherization, HVAC, heat pump water heaters, EV charging, solar, and batteries. Eric brought modeling and HVAC design experience, while Ed's learning process helped them identify where software needed to make that expertise easier to apply. Their work alongside installation partners exposed challenges in design and business operations, leading them to shift toward software that supports HVAC contractors. Expect To Learn: -Why Amply shifted from whole-home electrification projects to supporting HVAC contractors with design software. -How Manual J defines a home's loads before equipment selection, regardless of the system being installed. -Why heat pump selection requires balancing heating, cooling, moisture removal, and airflow requirements. -How visual design information helps homeowners understand recommendations and share them with another decision-maker. -How intake staff can explain a longer assessment and prepare homeowners for a more detailed visit. -How to choose between paid diagnostics, charging for design documents, and including design in a free estimate. -How accessible design tools can help less-experienced employees take on work that otherwise falls to the owner. Timestamps: 00:00 - Episode introduction 00:57 - Guests introduction and Whole-Home Electrification Origins 04:37 - Why Amply Energy, Inc. Shifted to Supporting Contractors 05:34 - Making Design Faster, Accurate, and Visual 08:35 - Testing Software Through an Installation Business 10:04 - Preparing a Traditional HVAC Shop for Heat Pumps 11:11 - Manual J and Heat Pump Equipment Selection 13:49 - Assessment Time and Homeowner Engagement 15:36 - Setting Expectations During the Intake Call 17:16 - Options for Charging for Diagnostics and Design 18:38 - Helping Less-Experienced Staff Handle Design Follow our Guests on LinkedIn: Eric Fitz - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/ Ed Smith - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716/ Follow Our Guest's Company Amply Energy, Inc.: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amply-energy/home/ Website: https://www.amply.energy/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie talks with Gaetano Altomare , Category Manager - Plumbing at IPEX by Aliaxis , who describes his team's work developing certified flue gas venting products. They examine System 1738, its differences from System 636, and the risks of using generic drain, waste, and vent pipe on gas-fired appliances. Installers will learn how certification, product markings, and appliance instructions inform material selection. Gaetano explains how advances in engineered plastics helped his team develop compounds capable of meeting UL 1738 requirements. Drawing on that development experience, he connects mechanical and material testing to long-term exposure to heat and condensate, then explains the temperature limits and applications of PVC and CPVC venting. Key Takeaways Why generic drain, waste, and vent materials are not designed for flue gas exposure, including the conditions that can cause ABS to become brittle and crack. How System 636 and System 1738 serve Canadian and US certification requirements, respectively, rather than different appliance operating conditions. How UL 1738 combines mechanical performance and material testing to evaluate suitability for flue gas venting over time. How product labels and print lines identify venting material, certification, manufacturer, and maximum temperature rating. Why the appliance manufacturer's installation manual must guide material selection, including when higher-temperature applications call for CPVC. Key Timestamps 00:00 – Factory Direct Filters Ad 00:42 – Guest and Episode Introduction 01:13 – Why generic ABS and PVC are not intended for flue gas venting 07:54 – System 636 versus System 1738 and their intended markets 14:54 - PVC and CPVC Pipes 21:05 – CPVC's 194°F maximum rating and boiler applications This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Company on: Gaetano Altomare - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gaetano-altomare-85a78833 IPEX by Aliaxis - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ipexbyaliaxis/ IPEX by Aliaxis - Company Website: https://ipexna.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero continue their conversation with Vern Crawford, founder of Flow Logic Automation , about deploying AI in HVAC businesses. Vern demonstrates how automation can move home warranty work orders from email into Housecall Pro, explains the progression from chat to connected business context to code, and outlines options for connecting AI tools to field service data. The discussion also covers debugging workflows, MCP connections, data integrity, and preparing business systems for reliable automation. Vern Crawford works with businesses to build AI-enabled automations and system connections. In this conversation, he shares an example of a Make scenario that processes plumbing work orders and describes building and using MCP connections for Housecall Pro. Expect To Learn: How a Make scenario can route incoming work orders into Housecall Pro. Why workflow branches handle different customer, address, and job outcomes. How Slack messages can help debug automation decision points. When to use no-code automation tools instead of custom coding. How AI use can progress from chat to connected business context and code. Three approaches to connecting AI tools with Housecall Pro through MCP. Why data integrity and cleanup must come before large automation projects. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction to AI deployment in HVAC businesses 01:28 – Building a Make scenario for warranty work orders 04:23 – Using Slack messages for debugging 04:52 – Make, Zapier, and custom agent building 05:37 – Learning automation through simple workflows 06:40 – Getting implementation help as a contractor 07:48 – First impressions of Claude voice conversations 08:14 – The progression from chat to context to code 11:09 – Connecting AI to Housecall Pro data 12:40 – Using AI for direct business feedback 15:19 – Three ways to build a Housecall Pro MCP connection 19:45 – Data integrity before automation Follow our Guest Vern Crawford: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vern_crawford/ Company Website: https://www.flowlogicautomation.com/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie talks with Chris Howells , Senior Training & Development Manager at AprilAire , about designing smaller filters and cabinets while maintaining filtration performance and airflow. In Part 2 of their conversation, they discuss three-inch media, one-inch MERV 11 filters, and installation practices that affect pressure drop. HVAC technicians will learn why filter depth alone does not determine performance and how transitions help systems use the filter's full face opening. Howells describes more than four years of development work informed by contractor, distributor, and consumer feedback. He explains how AprilAire's engineering and product management teams addressed shrinking mechanical spaces through changes to media construction and cabinet design. He also shares field-testing experience that connects those design choices to airflow concerns and maintenance schedules. Key Takeaways How smaller mechanical rooms and contractor feedback are driving thinner filter cabinets and changes to their dimensions. How supporting mesh, electrostatic media, and adjustments to metal backing help three-inch filters retain surface area while limiting pressure drop. The role of increased surface area and frame design in AprilAire's one-inch MERV 11 filter offering. Why filter service intervals and field validation matter when matching filtration options to maintenance agreements. How transitions that expose the full filter face help avoid pressure increases caused by undersized return openings. Key Timestamps 00:00 – Factory Direct Filters Ad 00:42 – Episode overview and Guest introduction 02:22 – Cabinet evolution and demand for smaller dimensions 10:49 – One-inch MERV 11 filter design and surface area 15:03 – Full-face transitions, pressure drop, and replacement practices 17:24 – Closing remarks This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Company on: Chris Howells - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-howells-5aa32b64/ AprilAire - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aprilaire/ AprilAire - Company Website: https://www.aprilaire.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie talks with Chris Howells , Senior Training & Development Manager at AprilAire , about applying indoor air quality solutions during shoulder seasons and making filtration part of a complete HVAC approach. They cover humidity concerns, filter selection, MERV ratings, pressure drop, airflow, and ways technicians can explain system performance to homeowners. Chris draws on his work educating contractors about filtration and indoor air quality. He explains why increasingly sealed homes and modern variable-speed equipment require technicians to assess the full system, including duct design, filter surface area, and delivered airflow, before recommending higher-efficiency filtration. Key Takeaways How to use shoulder-season humidity and comfort concerns to start an ethical indoor air quality conversation. Why indoor air quality solutions should address human health and comfort rather than focus on selling products. The relationship between filter MERV rating, pressure drop, surface area, and delivered airflow. How deeper media filters can provide more filtration surface area without equating filter depth with restriction. Why variable-speed ECM motors can be more affected by restrictive filters than older single-stage PSC motors. How static-pressure measurements and visual evidence can help homeowners understand filtration-related system issues. Key Timestamps 00:00 – Factory Direct Filters Ad 00:42 – Episode overview and Guest introduction 04:14 – Providing indoor air quality solutions during shoulder season 06:25 – Dehumidification as the first stage of cooling and its role in comfort 10:00 - AprilAire and their filtration 11:57 – One-inch filters, equipment protection, and the impact of pressure drop 13:32 – How modern variable-speed motors respond to restrictive filters 17:59 – Filter surface area, depth loading, and comparing one-inch and three-inch media 21:31 – Showing homeowners static-pressure readings and using a practitioner mindset This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Company on: Chris Howells - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-howells-5aa32b64/ AprilAire - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aprilaire/ AprilAire - Company Website: https://www.aprilaire.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero speak with Vern Crawford , founder of Flow Logic Automation , about practical uses of AI and automation in HVAC and plumbing businesses. They examine an after-hours AI phone agent for plumbing emergencies, the difference between deterministic automations and AI agents, and how APIs, webhooks, and MCPs connect business systems. The conversation also covers starting with simple workflows, using field service management data effectively, and preparing clean data before implementing AI. Vern has experience working with Housecall Pro automations and building AI-enabled workflows. He discusses creating an MCP connection for Housecall Pro, using Make.com to process plumbing work orders, and helping businesses implement these systems. Expect To Learn: How an after-hours AI phone agent can handle emergency calls and referrals. Why voice, tone, and local context matter when designing AI phone agents. The difference between deterministic automations and AI agents. How a completed-job trigger can improve office visibility in Housecall Pro. Why technician habits and workflow design affect automation success. How AI agents can help interpret technician notes and complete administrative tasks. What APIs, webhooks, and Model Context Protocols do in an AI workflow. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction to Vern Crawford and Flow Logic Automation 01:05 – A practical AI phone agent workflow 03:57 – AI voice options, tone, and customer reactions 04:52 – Testing accents and using human reception during business hours 06:41 – Automation versus AI agents 10:14 – A starting automation for completed jobs 11:55 – Technician use of the finish button 15:19 – Managing variation in HVAC service jobs 18:03 – APIs, webhooks, and MCPs explained 19:36 – Model Context Protocols and AI system connections 21:28 – Webhooks as machine-to-machine messages Follow our Guest Vern Crawford & His Company: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vern_crawford/ Company Website: https://www.flowlogicautomation.com/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie speaks with Matt Showers , a commercial-industrial HVAC professional and the host of Trade Therapy Podcast , about the effects of compulsive screen time, gaming, and other obsessive behaviors on family life. They discuss recognizing a problem, confronting the consequences of addiction, setting boundaries, and taking the first step toward getting help. Matt shares how gaming became an ongoing problem during his marriage and why an ultimatum from his wife became his turning point. Drawing on his experience of rebuilding trust and changing his habits, he explains how honesty, visible boundaries, and a long-term focus on the kind of parent and partner he wants to be have shaped his approach. Key Takeaways How recognizing the impact of compulsive behavior on family life can become the first step toward change. Why knowledge and sound measurement practices matter more than owning expensive tools. The importance of creating boundaries that reduce easy access to habits that can become compulsive. How honesty about setbacks can help rebuild trust and keep recovery efforts accountable. Why obsessive behavior can become harmful when it displaces sleep, food, work, or family responsibilities. How reaching out to a trusted person can start the process of finding appropriate support. Key Timestamps 00:00 – Cintas Ad 02:45 – Community, social media, and calling out poor HVAC practices 05:21 – Matt's breaking point with compulsive gaming and screen time 08:23 – How addiction can take many forms, including work and learning 11:16 – The effects of obsessive behavior on basic needs and family responsibilities 17:05 – Why bottling up emotions can lead to a breaking point 20:04 – Matt's advice to reach out to a trusted person for help This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Podcast on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvac_grammarian/ Guest Linktree: https://linktr.ee/Hvac.grammarian Podcast Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/trade-therapy/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie speaks with Matt Showers , a commercial-industrial HVAC professional and the host of Trade Therapy Podcast . They discuss putting real stories behind the topic, recognizing when peer support is not enough, managing screen and gaming habits, and responding to online negativity without feeding it. Matt draws from his experience creating the Trade Therapy podcast and seeking therapy for his own screen addiction. He explains how professional support and future-focused exercises helped him reset priorities, set limits around gaming, and spend more intentional time with his family. Key Takeaways How sharing personal stories can make mental health conversations in the trades more concrete and relatable. Why professional help may be necessary when a mental health challenge is beyond what a friend can help resolve. How phone games and immersive video games can become a distraction from family and other priorities. The value of setting a timer and stepping away from screens before they consume more time than intended. Why asking questions and seeking context is more constructive than attacking people online. Key Timestamps 00:00 – Cintas Ad 04:03 – Matt explains why he started the Trade Therapy podcast 09:44 – Matt describes the pull of phone games and video games 12:02 – Therapy, future-focused exercises, and resetting priorities 21:35 – Why online attacks can be driven by attention and engagement This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Podcast on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvac_grammarian/ Guest Linktree: https://linktr.ee/Hvac.grammarian Podcast Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/trade-therapy/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero speak with Jim Bergmann , President of measureQuick , and Director of New Product Development at Redfish Instruments Inc. about residential HVAC commissioning, reducing callbacks, and verified equipment operation. Jim explains how airflow, static pressure, charging, and manufacturer installation requirements affect system longevity. He also discusses AI guardrails, diagnostic tools, repair options, and why HVAC businesses may benefit from more specialized roles. Expect To Learn: Why commissioning helps reduce callbacks and protect equipment. How airflow and static pressure affect system operation. What verified equipment operation includes for residential installs. Why technicians should follow manufacturer installation requirements. Where AI can support HVAC diagnostics and where human judgment remains necessary. How repair options can serve customers in a repair economy. Why specialized roles can strengthen installation and commissioning quality. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction to part two with Jim Bergmann 00:48 – Callbacks and commissioning for business owners 02:02 – Verified equipment operation for residential systems 07:19 – AI and the future of HVAC diagnostics 07:48 – AI as a tool for refining thinking 09:11 – AI guardrails and Measure Quick's use of measured data 13:16 – Repair options in a repair economy 17:24 – Specialized commissioning and technical efficiency roles 23:14 – Closing conversation on AI and HVAC Follow our Guest Jim Bergmann: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-bergmann-2968178/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/measurequick-application/ Company Website: https://measurequick.com/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie speaks with HVACR Educator Don Gillis of Gillis Coach about helping technicians adapt to digital tools and evolving equipment. They cover the shift from analog instruments to Bluetooth-enabled technology, the value of understanding mechanical fundamentals, and how to assess training resources before relying on them. Don draws on experience in field service, service management, manufacturer work, and training to explain why technicians and counter staff need a stronger grasp of refrigeration fundamentals. His perspective connects real-world testing, tool calibration, and ongoing training to the changes technicians face with modern controls, EEVs, and new refrigerants. Key Takeaways How to combine digital diagnostic tools with an understanding of the mechanical principles behind the readings. Why technicians teaching others need to stay current with the tools and technology used in the field. The importance of learning the refrigeration cycle so counter staff can have more useful technical conversations. How to evaluate online HVAC training by choosing sources that demonstrate sound knowledge and real-world mistakes. Why new components such as EEVs and variable-speed equipment require technicians to move beyond familiar routines. The difference between laboratory testing and field testing when manufacturers introduce new products. Key Timestamps [00:00] - Sponsor Ad: Factory Direct Filters [00:42] - Introduction to Don Gillis & the Focus of the Episode [02:25] – Don's early adoption of digital tools and Bluetooth technology [06:46] – Why new technicians should train with current digital equipment [08:44] – The decline of refrigeration knowledge at the supply counter [11:50] – How refrigeration technology reaches residential HVAC systems [12:53] – Accepting change and choosing reliable online training sources [16:16] – Laboratory testing, field testing, and product release pressure [19:10] – Closing discussion on scroll-compressor check valves This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Company on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dongilliscom/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gillis-coach/ Company Website: https://gilliscoach.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of HVAC Know It All , host Gary McCreadie speaks with HVACR Educator Don Gillis of Gillis Coach about how HVAC training has changed from the field-based approaches of decades past. They examine apprenticeship experiences, knowledge gaps, digital learning tools, and how senior technicians can build confidence by involving apprentices in real troubleshooting. Drawing on more than 30 years in HVAC, including roles with Emerson, Chemours, and as a service manager, Don shares how he developed his training approach. His experience teaching refrigerants, building science, weatherization, and technicians in the field informs his focus on practical learning, curiosity, and helping people advance in their careers. Key Takeaways How involving apprentices in setup and troubleshooting can build confidence instead of treating them only as helpers. Why a senior technician should ask an apprentice for input when a diagnostic process stalls. The value of teaching a repeatable troubleshooting methodology so apprentices can identify missed steps. How digital resources can help apprentices find answers when the technician beside them does not know the answer. Why withholding knowledge can weaken training and limit a team's ability to solve problems. The importance of creating a respectful truck environment where apprentices can learn without unnecessary frustration. Key Timestamps [00:00] - Sponsor Ad: Factory Direct Filters [00:43] – Gary introduces Don Gillis and the discussion on HVAC training [02:31] – Don's path from Emerson and Chemours to coaching and curriculum development [07:10] – How committing to an independent business changes fear into planning and excitement [08:42] – Don's early field training experience and the value of learning alongside apprentices [12:42] – How past training environments could be toxic or unsupported [15:13] – Brand-focused training, broken school equipment, and learning from manuals [20:41] – Using an apprentice's perspective to catch missed troubleshooting steps This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest and His Company on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dongilliscom/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gillis-coach/ Company Website: https://gilliscoach.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero speak with Jim Bergmann , president of measureQuick , and Director of New Product Development at Redfish Instruments Inc. about commissioning as a business process. They cover preventive component replacement, technician tools, accurate measurements, callback costs, and creating consistent field procedures. Jim explains how missing or inconsistent tools can lead technicians to guess at system performance. He also discusses using standardized truck layouts, tool allowances, and commissioning processes to improve diagnosis and reduce callbacks. Expect To Learn: How proactive capacitor and contactor replacement can reduce callbacks. Why higher-quality replacement components may support preventive maintenance. Which commissioning issues commonly affect duct leakage, airflow, and refrigerant charge. How to verify that technicians have accurate, appropriate diagnostic tools. Why standardized tools and measurement methods improve field consistency. How callback costs extend beyond technician wages and truck expenses. Why tracking callbacks and building repeatable processes supports business growth. Timestamps (Audio): 00:00 – Introduction to Jim Bergmann 00:58 – Preventing callbacks through maintenance 02:47 – Capacitor quality, heat, and failure patterns 04:25 – Scheduled capacitor and contactor replacement 06:02 – Commissioning from a business owner perspective 11:15 – Calculating the financial cost of a callback 11:38 – Why airflow measurement matters before charging 15:21 – Tool allowances and technician accountability 15:57 – Building consistency with a tool co-op 19:11 – Why small businesses should track callbacks 20:00 – The reputation and labor costs of poor-quality work Follow our Guest Jim Bergmann: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-bergmann-2968178/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/measurequick-application/ Company Website: https://measurequick.com/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero speak with Bill Spohn , Founder & CEO of TruTech Tools , LTD, who brings 38 years of experience in the HVAC industry. They discuss applying EOS, the Entrepreneurial Operating System to business operations. They cover meeting rhythms, transparency, core values, and ways smaller HVAC companies can adapt structured operating practices. Bill shares how TruTech Tools organizes functional departments, uses regular meetings to solve issues, and makes financial information visible while protecting sensitive HR details. He also discusses resources for owners who want to begin implementing EOS on their own. Expect To Learn: How EOS meeting rhythms can scale across functional departments. Why weekly leadership meetings should focus on solving issues. How to adapt EOS practices for small HVAC businesses with field teams. Where to draw the line between transparency and confidential HR information. How financial visibility can connect departments to profit sharing. Why core values can help employees make day-to-day decisions. How to start implementing EOS with books, free resources, and outside guidance. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction 00:52 – Using EOS from 12 to 200 employees 01:29 – Functional departments and cascading decisions 02:25 – Meeting cadence at TruTech Tools 04:27 – Adapting EOS for small HVAC businesses 06:41 – Open-book accounting and employee empowerment 08:46 – Organizing the business to reduce noise 11:46 – The book Traction and EOS resources 13:30 – Final advice for implementing EOS 14:15 – Closing remarks Follow our Guest Bill Spohn and his companies: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billspohn/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/trutech-tools-ltd/ Company Website: https://trutechtools.com/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Podcast, host Gary McCreadie is joined by Eric Ruggles , Director of Engineering at Ritchie Engineering Co., Inc. (YELLOW JACKET) , to discuss charging A3 flammable refrigerants with Yellowjacket's hydrocarbon charging kit. They cover assembling the charging setup, pre-filling hoses before weighing in a critical charge, and using a gas retention valve to reduce refrigerant loss during connections and disconnections. Ruggles brings Yellowjacket's equipment perspective to the practical handling of A3s and A2Ls. He explains why hose volume, non-sparking vacuum-pump components, recovery-machine safety, equipment labeling, and technician precautions matter when working with flammable refrigerants. Key Takeaways How to pre-fill a charging hose with refrigerant and re-zero the scale before charging a critically charged system. Why small-diameter hoses help reduce the amount of residual refrigerant left in a charging setup. How a Schrader core depression valve can connect to a system before opening the core and limit refrigerant loss during removal. Why technicians should take A3 safety precautions when a small refrigeration unit does not clearly identify its refrigerant. How brushless or sealed motors, non-sparking switches, and integrated cords reduce ignition risks in A2L-compatible vacuum pumps. Why recovery machines require proper equipment because they handle a continuous flow of flammable refrigerant and involve refrigerant connections. Noteworthy Quotes "You can screw this on without letting any gas out of the system or without impacting the system at all." – Eric Ruggles "Then you have a fully filled line set before you even charge the system at all, and that's what you're starting with." – Eric Ruggles "The motors have to be changed typically to brushless DC or completely sealed motors from an AC perspective." – Eric Ruggles "You can't have any sparking at the vacuum pump or recovery machine when we're in an environment that could have an A2L or an A3 flammable refrigerants." – Eric Ruggles "Recovery machines are more critical, making sure that you're using the proper equipment." – Eric Ruggles Episode Highlights: [00:00] - Sponsor Ad: Factory Direct Filters [00:43] - Introduction to Eric Ruggles & the Focus of the Episode [02:15] - Eric begins demonstrating the A3 charging setup [03:58] - Charging the System [05:37] - Gas Retention Valve Purpose [06:37] - Non-A3 Charging Setup [09:33] - Why R290 Cylinders Are Small [11:00] - A3 Refrigerant Safety [13:04] - A2L Vacuum Pump Requirements [16:18] - Identifying A3 Refrigerants [19:00] - Where To Reach Out to Eric This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest Eric Ruggles and His Company on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-ruggles-28a84424/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ritchie-engineering-co-yellow-jacket-/ Company Website: https://yellowjacket.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Podcast, host Gary McCreadie is joined by Eric Ruggles , Director of Engineering at Ritchie Engineering Co., Inc. (YELLOW JACKET) , to discuss charging A3 hydrocarbon refrigerants, including R290 and R600A. They compare A3 and A2L flammability, cover ventilation and system purging, and explain safe pinch-off, charging, and leak-checking practices for hydrocarbon equipment. Ruggles brings YellowJacket's product perspective to the discussion of its hydrocarbon charging kit, including the scale, bottle stand, puncture valves, hoses, and pinch-off tool. His guidance connects the kit's features, bottle compatibility, and O-ring setup to the practical steps technicians use when servicing A3 systems. Key Takeaways How ventilation reduces the flammability risk when working with A2L refrigerants in open or well-ventilated areas. Why A3 refrigerants require a full purge and attention to where discharged gas can collect before a torch is lit. How residual R290 can create a flame at a leak point during brazing if refrigerant remains in the system. The importance of keeping a pinch-off tool clamped on the copper until the brazed joint has cooled. How to leak-check the pinched section before brazing to confirm refrigerant is not escaping. Why removing one O-ring from the bottle valve may be necessary for compatibility with certain refrigerant cylinders. Noteworthy Quotes "When it comes to A2Ls, ventilation is key." – Eric Ruggles "Recovering is difficult with A3s, just with the flammability concerns and then compressing it back into small canisters." – Eric Ruggles "As soon as you take the tool off, the copper's able to relax and then you can open up." – Eric Ruggles "It should work with every bottle out there." – Eric Ruggles Episode Highlights: [00:00] - Sponsor Ad: Factory Direct Filters [00:42] - Introduction to Eric Ruggles & the Focus of the Episode [03:01] - Difference between A3 Refrigerants and A2Ls [04:22] - How Flammable Is R290 When Working on a Leaking System? [05:05] - Importance of Fully Purging Residual Refrigerant Before Brazing [07:58] - Reason Behind Some A3 Systems Now Using Service Ports [10:22] - What's Included in the Yellow Jacket Hydrocarbon Charging Kit? [13:08] - How Does the New Scale's Auto-Off Feature Work? [13:48] - The Type Of O-Ring Required for an R290 Refrigerant Cylinder This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest Eric Ruggles and His Company on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-ruggles-28a84424/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ritchie-engineering-co-yellow-jacket-/ Company Website: https://yellowjacket.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero speak with Bill Spohn , Founder & CEO of TruTech Tools, LTD, who brings 38 years of experience in the HVAC industry. They discuss the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), including meeting structure, decision-making, core values, accountability, and culture. Bill shares how TruTech Tools introduced EOS practices, used a Vision Traction Organizer, defined roles through the GWC framework, tracked leading indicators, and approached leadership succession. Expect To Learn: How EOS uses a two-page Vision Traction Organizer to guide business planning. Why regular meetings with clear agendas improve leadership communication. How to define core values through a keep, kill, and combine process. What the GWC framework means for assigning people to the right roles. Why quarterly conversations can support accountability and feedback. How leading indicators can help teams anticipate future performance. How structured meetings can help leaders identify, discuss, and solve issues. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction 01:14 – Discovering the Vision Traction Organizer 03:10 – Early EOS practices at TruTech Tools 04:29 – Implementing EOS and defining core values 07:32 – EOS impact on roles and accountability 10:57 – Quarterly conversations and giving people grace 13:27 – Defining culture through actions and process 16:57 – Succession planning and reducing Bill's day-to-day role 20:00 – Why Billy Spohn would not take over without EOS 20:22 – Visionary and integrator roles 22:55 – Identify, discuss, and solve meeting issues 23:51 – Using 90.io for EOS meeting preparation Follow our Guest Bill Spohn and his companies: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billspohn/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/trutech-tools-ltd/ Company Website: https://trutechtools.com/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Podcast, host Gary McCreadie continues his conversation with Rich Ortega , the C.O.O. and co-owner of On The Rock Services and podcast co-host of Commercial Kitchen Chronicles , about the realities of starting and growing a service business. Rich explains why people considering entrepreneurship should do their research before leaving their current jobs and seek advice from business owners who have built the type of company they actually want to create. He and Gary discuss the difference between owning a business and simply owning a job, including the importance of building infrastructure, creating systems, and eventually making the company self-sufficient. They also explore the less-discussed stresses of business growth, from managing employees and maintaining revenue to taking responsibility for employees and their families. Rich shares why hiring inexperienced people with the right personality can be preferable to hiring experienced technicians with bad habits, while also explaining the challenges of finding the time and financial margin to train new employees. Expect to Learn: ● Why researching the realities of business ownership is important before leaving your job. ● Why entrepreneurs should seek advice from people who have built the type of business they want to create. ● The difference between owning a business and simply owning a job. ● Why business growth brings additional stress, risk, and responsibility. ● The challenges and financial risks that come with hiring and managing employees. ● Why business owners eventually need to focus on relationships and generating new business opportunities. ● The advantages and challenges of hiring inexperienced employees with the right attitude and personality. Episode Highlights: [00:00] - Sponsor Ad: Factory Direct Filters [00:42] — Guest Introduction in part 2 [04:30] — Why Research Matters Before Starting Your Own Business [05:36] — The Difference Between Owning a Business and Owning a Job [08:03] — The Hard Struggles Entrepreneurs Don't Usually Talk About [13:04] — The Stress and Responsibility of Growing With Employees [19:13] — Hiring Green vs. Experienced Technicians This Episode is Kindly Sponsored by: Cintas: https://www.cintas.com/hvacknowitall Cool Air Products: https://www.coolairproducts.net/ Factory Direct Filters: https://www.factorydirectfilters.com/ SupplyHouse: https://www.supplyhouse.com/tm Use promo code HKIA5 to get 5% off your first order at Supplyhouse! Follow the Guest Rich Ortega and His Companies on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rich-ortega-61460125b/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ontherockservices/ Company Website: https://www.ontherockservices.com/ Guest's Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/commercial-kitchen-chronicles/ Guest's Podcast Website: https://commercialkitchenchronicles.com/ Follow the Host on: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ LinkedIn - HVAC Know It All: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hvac-know-it-all-inc Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow the Podcast on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HVACKnowItAll Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LCBJGw0EHG03rdWHxUMce Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hvac-know-it-all-podcast/id1359253455

In this episode of the HVAC Know It All Business Edition Podcast, co-hosts Gary McCreadie and Furman Haynes from WorkHero speak with Daniel Quinonez , Chief Operating Officer of Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors -National Association . They discuss HVAC licensing standards, technician training, safety risks, workforce education, and preparing contractors for industry change. Dan shares perspectives on building trade careers through continuous learning, business education, community, and technology adoption. The conversation also covers how AI, data centers, and evolving tools can create opportunities for contractors who stay ready to adapt. Expect To Learn: Why EPA certification alone may not provide sufficient HVAC training. How licensing standards can support safer installations and consumer protection. Why training and mentorship remain essential throughout an HVAC career. How Pell Grants may expand access to qualifying workforce programs. When technicians often begin transitioning into HVAC business ownership. How business and leadership education can support career growth. Why contractors should treat AI and new technology as resources for efficiency. Timestamps: 00:00 - Daniel Quinonez returns for part two 01:55 - Licensing standards for HVAC technicians 02:58 - How diluted licensing can affect quality 04:50 - A costly water heater installation example 05:44 - Carbon monoxide and combustion safety risks 07:20 - Pell Grants for workforce education 08:16 - Career opportunities in the trades 11:04 - Transitioning from technician to business owner 14:03 - Building a future-ready HVAC business 16:14 - Staying open to new tools and technology Follow our Guest Daniel Quinonez: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-quinonez-690ba68/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/phccnational/ Company Website: http://www.phccweb.org/ Follow Gary McCreadie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-mccreadie-38217a77/ Website: https://www.hvacknowitall.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/HVAC-Know-It-All-2/61569643061429/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hvacknowitall1/ Follow Furman Haynes: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/furmanhaynes/ WorkHero: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workherohvac/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workhero__/