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Published by Michelle Gately & Caitlin Toohey
A podcast for readers who want to know the stories behind the pages đ Join Caitlin and Michelle, two book nerds who bring you in-depth conversations about writing and publishing from those on the inside. Grab a cuppa and get ready to chat books.
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Welcome to the second of our 3-part series celebrating the iconic Australian feminist novel My Brilliant Career by Miles Franklin. In this episode, Caitlin and Michelle are discussing the novel, originally published in 1901. About the book: Growing up on her parentsâ outback farm, Sybylla is desperate to read, write, sing and achieve great things. Yet her aspirations for a âbrilliant careerâ are persistently thwarted, first by the arduous demands of rural family life, and later by the shackles of a proposed conventional marriage to the wealthy Harold Beecham. With only her brilliant, conflicted mind to guide her, Sybylla is forced to define a life on her own terms. *Caitlin accessed a copy through her work at Harper Collins. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Wuthering Heights by Emily BrontĂ« Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen Little Women by Louisa May Alcott Anne of Green Gables by LM Montgomery My Brilliant Career, Smith & Taylor classics edition Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. Make sure you're following the podcast so new episodes appear in your feed as soon as they're available. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
Welcome to the first of our three-part series celebrating the iconic Australian feminist novel My Brilliant Career by Miles Franklin. In this first part, Michelle is taking inspiration from Just the Gist (our favourite podcast) to tell Caitlin the incredible life of Stella Miles Franklin. We promise youâll also be obsessed with her by the end of this episode. Sources: âMy Brilliant Careerâ by the National Museum of Australia Miles Franklin by Dr Rachel Franks for State Library of NSW (Please excuse some bumpy noises when Michelle got very passionate while telling this story and couldnât stop moving her hands) For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Henry Lawson (poet) Banjo Paterson (poet) Trent Dalton (author) Fierceland by Omar Musa The Miles Franklin Award The Stella Prize Life of M by Rachel Cusk Fruit Fly by Josh Silver Chat 10 Looks 3 (podcast) Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. Make sure you're following the podcast so new episodes appear in your feed as soon as they're available. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
The Heartstopper series reaches its conclusion, with Volume 6 in Alice Oseman's beautiful YA graphic novel series and a Netflix movie. We're discussing both the graphic novel and our reactions to the Heartstopper Forever film. Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. Make sure you're following the podcast so new episodes appear in your feed as soon as they're available. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
This episode Michelle is giving a round-up of crime book recommendations, especially for people who donât think theyâre fans of crime as a genre. Before we get into that, she shares a fun fact about a connection between The Book Thief and Heated Rivalry . For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Caitlinâs amazing knitted vest! Garden Yourself Happy by Jonny Hincks Follow Johnny on Instagram for daily dopamine hits whether youâre into plants or not Deadloch (TV series) Wentworth (TV series) A Beginnerâs Guide to Breaking & Entering and Bad Deeds by Andrew Hunter Murray* The Hamish & Andy Podcast episode 320 Burg Boys! Everyone in My Family Has Killed Someone by Benjamin Stevenson Everyone on This Train is a Suspect by Benjamin Stevenson* Everyone This Christmas Has a Secret by Benjamin Stevenson* Everyone in This Bank is a Thief by Benjamin Stevenson Knives Out (film) Death By Noir by Olly Smith* Murder at Worldâs End by Ross Montgomery* 10 Marchfield Square and Murder Like Clockwork by Nicola Whyte* Mad Mabel by Sally Hepworth* The Silent Appeal by Janice Hallett* The Five by Hallie Rubenhold The Story of a Murder by Hallie Rubenhold* Itâs Not What You Think by Clare Macintosh The Year of the Rat by Harry Shukman The Grapevine by Kate Kemp Puberty Blues (TV show) A Bad, Bad Place by Frances Crawford Old School (TV show) Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. Make sure you're following the podcast so new episodes appear in your feed as soon as they're available. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
This episode weâre sharing reviews of recent reads. Michelle discusses The Long Haul by Hannah Doyle and Logging Off by Adele Zeynep Walton. Caitlin talks about George Kempâs debut novel Soft Serve. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Mhairi McFarlane Groundhog Day (film) Palm Springs (film) A Smart Girlâs Guide to Second Chances by Steph Vizard Prima Facie by Suzi Miller Big Small Talk podcast Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. Make sure you're following the podcast so new episodes appear in your feed as soon as they're available. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
In this episode, weâre discussing why book to screen adaptations are so vital for the publishing industry and the incredible stats that show just how many people are starting to read because of what they see on screen. Our main source is the Publisherâs Association report on screen adaptations, released earlier this year. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: National Year of Reading Australia Reads 2026 report: Reaching Australian Readers Rivals Normal People Frankenstein Withering Heights Off Campus Project Hail Mary Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinniman Heartstopper Invincible Stranger Things One Day The Love Hypothesis East of Eden Heated Rivalry Wicked Dracula Brooklyn It Ends With Us The Thursday Murder Club Sunrise on the Reaping Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. Make sure you're following the podcast so new episodes appear in your feed as soon as they're available. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
This episode weâre sharing some reviews of recent reads. Caitlin discusses two graphic novel retellings of Anne of Green Gables: Dan in Green Gables by Rex Ogle and Anne by Kathleen Gros. While Michelle chats about one of her most-anticipated books of 2026, Fruit Fly, by friend of the podcast Josh Silver. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Clueless (film) 10 Things I Hate About You (film) Lord of the Flies: Graphic Novel Yellowface by R.F. Kuang Traumaland by Josh Silver Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
This episode is an extra special one as we welcome Matt Cain back to the podcast to talk about his new venture: he and husband Harry have launched an independent publishing company to get queer voices to mainstream readers. Pansy Books is a brilliant concept, and we are so excited for what Matt and Harry are doing in this space. We chat about Mattâs publishing journey from crowdfunding to indie publisher, his new novel The Castle of Stories , and how his autism diagnosis has played into writing. For a more in-depth chat about Mattâs writing journey, be sure to go back and listen to our original interview . Be sure to follow Pansy Books on Instagram and for more information, you can find their website here . For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Heated Rivalry Quite the Pair by Tobias Madden Tobiasâ post about international rights Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins Reid Beth OâLeary (author) Laura Kay (author) Mhairi McFarlane (author) Slow Horses (TV show) The National Year of Reading Reaching Australian Readers 2026 report Dungeon Crawler Carl Brandon Sanderson (author) Mattâs article in The Guardian exploring a late autism diagnosis Unapologetic Love Story by Elle McNicoll Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
In this episode, we're discussing Yesteryear by Caro Claire Burke. Unlike review episodes, book club chats will include some spoilers, although we will give ample warning before we switch from a general chat into spoiler territory. About the book: Natalie lives a traditional lifestyle â and has the social media accounts to prove it. Her charming farmhouse on her working ranch is artfully cluttered, her husband is a handsome cowboy, her homemade sourdough boules are each more beautiful than the last. So what if there are nannies and producers and industrial-grade ovens behind the scenes? What Natalieâs followers donât know wonât hurt them. Then, one morning, Natalie wakes up in a strange, horrible version of reality. Her home, her husband, her childrenâtheyâre all familiar, but somethingâs off. Is this a hoax? A reality show? A test from God? Natalie knows just two things for sure: this isn't her perfect life, and she must escape, by any means possible. * We both read advance copies provided by the publisher Here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (TV show) Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
In this episode weâre deep diving into the adaptation of Emily Henryâs The People We Meet on Vacation . Caitlin explains the mysterious changes between the UK and US versions, and we discuss the film. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Hoppers (film) Zootopia 2 (film) Hannah Ferguson on kids being inspiring Man on the Run (film) What Went Wrong (podcast) Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
In this episode, weâre reviewing Half His Age by Jennette McCurdy and Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash. Both were provided by publishers for review! For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Operation Mincemeat musical Come From Away musical Iâm Glad My Mom Died by Jennette McCurdy Slags by Emma Jane Unsworth The Bee Sting by Paul Murray The Greatest Possible Good by Ben Brooks Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
In this episode weâre reviewing Bad Publicity by Bianca Gillam and Esther is Now Following You by Tanya Sweeny. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Red Flags by Sophie Jo Heated Rivalry The Mushroom Tapes by Helen Garner, Chloe Hooper and Sarah Krasnostein Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
In this episode weâre discussing things we watched together in January: The Traitors UK, Heated Rivalry and musicals Hercules, and Just For One Day. Caitlin also talks about The Devil Wears Prada and The Mousetrap. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Smart Girlâs Guide to Second Chances and The Love Contract by Steph Vizard Caitlinâs rom-com recommendations The Work and Seed by Bri Lee (our interview) Do We Deserve This? by Elinor Elliot Thomas (our interview) The Unexpected Mess of It All by Gabrielle Tozer This Stays Between Us Eras: ABBA (BBC podcast) Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
We were lucky enough to record this episode together in a studio at Vanishing Point Records in Chesterfield. In this episode, weâre discussing Future Boy by Michael J Fox, which explores how the iconic Back to the Future film was made. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Anne of Green Gables (1980s version) Confessions of a Shopaholic What Went Wrong podcast Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â . At the end of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
We were lucky enough to record this episode together in a studio at Vanishing Point Records in Chesterfield . We kick off with a wrap-up of our reading stats for the year: how many books and pages, the moods and re-reads. *Accessed through our work/from the publisher 2024 debut book: Caitlin: The Heir Apparent by Rebecca Armitage* Michelle: Confessions by Catherine Airey* Non-fiction: Michelle: John and Paul: A Love story in Songs by Ian Leslie Caitlin: The Third Gilmore Girl by Kelly Bishop Australian book: Michelle: Consider Yourself Kissed by Jessica Stanley Caitlin: Until the Red Leaves Fall by Alli Parker* Romance: Michelle: Swept Away by Beth OâLeary Caitlin: An Academic Affair by Jodi McAlister Fiction: Michelle: The Offing by Benjamin Myers Caitlin: Ever Blessed by Olivia OâFlynn* Young Adult: Michelle: Red Flags by Sophie Jo* Caitlin: Grumpy Darling by Alexandra Moody* Most surprising: Caitlin: Fake by Stephanie Wood Michelle: The Lamb by Lucy Rose Favourite cover: Caitlin: A Smart Girls Guide to Second Chances by Steph Vizard* Michelle: Sad Girl Hours by Anna Zoe Quirke* Recommendation for each other: Michelle: The Wedding People by Alison Espach Caitlin: *Until the Red Leaves Fall by Alli Parker Worth the hype: Michelle: Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins Reid Caitlin: Sunrise on the Reaping by Suzanne Collins Books on our radar for 2026: Yesteryear by Caro Claire Burke Motherfaker by Anna Brook-Mitchell The Ending Writes Itself by Evelyn Clarke* Esther is Now Following You by Tanya Sweeny* Heartstopper volume 6 by Alice Oseman The Silent Appeal by Janice Hallett Caller Unknown by Gillian McAllister Whatever Happened to Madeline Stone by Louise OâNeill Fruit Fly by Josh Silver This Book Made Me Think of You by Libby Page Survival Show by Juno Dawson Hopeless Romantics by Mhairi McFarlane Our Perfect Storm by Carley Fortune Favourite TV: Michelle: The Americans Outrageous Supernatural Daddy Issues Caitlin: Fresh Off the Boat Severence Heated Rivalry Favourite films: Michelle: Civil War The Thursday Murder Club Lily & Stitch (live action) Downton Abbey: The Finale Caitlin: September 5 Wicked: For Good Thelma Favourite podcasts: Michelle: Just The Gist Big Small Talk âBig Talkâ episodes Last Podcast on the Left episodes on Heinrich Himmler and The Great Molasses Flood Caitlin: Pulp Kitchen Good Hang Hamish & Andy But for your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Ready Player One by Ernest Cline The Beatles by Hunter Davies Katabasis by RF Kuang The Book Thief by Markus Zusak Wings: The Story of a Band Rivals by Jilly Cooper The Dry Heart by Natalia Ginzburg Picnic at Hanging Rock by Joan Lindsey The Job Share by Sophie Jo Heartbreak Era by Sophie Jo All Fours by Miranda July Literary Legends Reading Challenge The Goldmans The Stringer: The Man Who Took the Photo (film) Zootopia 2 Celebrity Traitors Spotlight The Rest is Entertainment Inside Out 2 Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've â got a Substack publication â now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. â Come say hi! â Connect with us on Instagram: â @betterwordspod
In this episode, Caitlin gives you dozens of recommendations for brilliant Aussie rom-coms. While Michelle chats briefly about Paul McCartney's new book, Wings: The Story of a Band on the Run. For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Man on the Run (upcoming Amazon documentary) Wings Deluxe Collection on vinyl (also available to stream on Spotify) Daisy Jones and the Six by Taylor Jenkins Reid That Island Feeling by Karina May (listen to our interview with Karina here ) The Matchmaker by Saman Shad The Cicada House by Ella Ward* Ever Blessed by Olivia O'Flynn* Rival Darling and Grumpy Darling by Alexandra Moody* An Academic Affair by Jodi McAlister (listen to our previous chat with Jodi here ) What Did I Miss by Holly Brunnbauer* A Smart Girl's Guide to Second Chances by Steph Vizard* Love Overdue by Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus ( listen to Caitlin's full rec here ) Love and Other Scores by Abra Pressler ( Caitlin's full rec ) Ghosted by Amy Hutton (listen to our interview with Amy here ) Drive Me Crazy by Lizzie Dent* Sex Lives of Married Women by Saman Shad Jenna Lo Bianco (The Italian Marriage, Love and Rome, Venetian Lessons in Love, and Love, Al Dente) Natalie Murray (Lights, Camera, Love and Love, Just In) Anita Heiss (Not Meeting Mr Right) Engaged Apparently by Amy Andrews The Wedding Forecast by Nina Kenwood (listen to our interview with Nina ) Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
In this episode, we're chatting about: The secret skill of book signings Girl Dinner by Olivie Blake* Park Avenue by RenĂ©e Ahdieh* The Americans (TV series) The Buccaneers (TV series) *Accessed through our work/from the publisher But for your convenience, here's everything we mentioned in this episode: Lucy Worsley (British historian and author) â we didn't mention but you can listen to her brilliant BBC podcast Lady Killers Katabasis by RF Kuang The Great (TV show) Mad Men (TV show) The real-life inspiration for The Americans Morning Wars (TV show) Enjoyed this episode? Please share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
In this episode, we're discussing The Names by Florence Knapp. Unlike review episodes, book club chats will include some spoilers (although we'll still try to keep things vague). About the book: It is 1987, and in the aftermath of a great storm, Cora sets out with her nine-year-old daughter to register the birth of her son. Her husband intends her to follow a long-standing family tradition and call the boy after him. But faced with the decision, Cora hesitates, questioning whether it is right for her child to share his name with generations of domineering men. Her choice in this moment will shape the course of their lives. Seven years later, her son is Bear, a name chosen by his sister, and one that will prove as cataclysmic as the storm from which it emerges. Or he is Julian, the name his mother set her heart on, believing it will give him the opportunity to become his own person. Or he is Gordon, named after his father and raised in his image - but is there still a chance to break the mould? This is the story of three names, three versions of a life and the infinite possibilities that a single decision can spark. It is the story of one family and how love endures, no matter what fate has in store. *Michelle received a copy from the publisher Here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: Sliding Doors (film) Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus Consider Yourself Kissed by Jessica Stanley The Treasures by Hariette Evans Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
In this episode, we're chatting about seasonal reading: what we're looking for and what it means to us. Then we share some recommendations for the summer ahead in the Southern Hemisphere and autumn vibes for our Northern Hemisphere pals. Enjoy! For your convenience, here's everything we mentioned in this episode: Australia's Top 100 books countdown Boy Swallows Universe by Trent Dalton The Book Thief by Markus Zusak The Hottest 100 Australian songs Gravity Let Me Go by Trent Dalton The Offing by Benjamin Myers Love and Other Scores by Abra Pressler Five Bush Summers and Love Clare Fletcher That Island Feeling by Karina May Swept Away by Beth OâLeary One Golden Summer by Carley Fortune The Summer I Turned Pretty series Katabasis by R.F Kuang Hungerstone by Kat Dunn The Lamb by Lucy Rose Carmilla by J Sheridan Le Fanu Dracula by Bram Stoker The Treasures by Harriet Evans Buckeye by Patrick Ryan Sad Girl Hours by Anna Zoe Quirke (this was gifted by the publisher) Our previous interview with Anna about Something to Be Proud Of Rewitched and Uncharmed by Lucy Jane Wood The Dead Romantics by Ashley Poston Make Me A Monster by Kalynn Bayron Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
In this episode, we're chatting about: Michelle's birthday trip to The Lake District and our excitement for the bookish girl autumn Maisie Peters is teasing with her new single Caitlin's brief thoughts on The Life of a Showgirl Kalynn Bayron's supernatural twist on Mary Shelley's classic Frankenstein (which Michelle hasn't read) An update on Michelle's journey through watching Supernatural Second-chance dual timeline rom-com Love Overdue by Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus For your convenience, here's everything else we mentioned in this episode: We love the vibe from everything Maisie Peters has teased about her new album 'Our Review of Life of a Showgirl' by the Shameless podcast Our interview with Kalynn Bayron Katabasis by R.F. Kuang Mary and the Birth of Frankenstein by Anne Eekhout Scot and Bothered by Alexandra Kiley While You Were Reading and Fancy Meeting You Here by Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus The Smart Girl's Guide to Second Chances by Steph Vizard Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a bookish friend to help spread the word. We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi! Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod
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