Oh God, What Now?

Have YOU done YOUR emergency stash of sardines, toilet paper and Kit-Kats? The government’s warnings to stockpile tinned food and water set off a mix of panic, confusion and (from the usual suspects) mockery… but should we all be taking preparedness more seriously? Is Britain going to have to accept bigger changes in our society as the world gets more dangerous?  Plus: We look into what the “fiscal devolution” and a hundred quid off energy bills in John Healey’s first Budget all mean. It was boring, but is boring good in these straitened times? And in the Extra Bit for Patreon people, take your mind off the misery with the Oh God, What Now? winter break guide, as the panel shares some unexpectedly delightful destinations for an autumn escape.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Jonn watched The Lion in Winter – “like Succession with Henry II” • Hannah watched Steven Knight’s Oasis: Don’t Look Back in Anger • Rachel has been reading Anthony Horowitz’s latest book, A Deadly Episode • Ros has been bingeing Polish thriller The Mire on Netflix • Support us on Patreon for the Extra Bit, ad-free episodes and more.  Presented by Ros Taylor with Hannah Fearn, Rachel Cunliffe and Jonn Elledge. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Simon Williams. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Fast reaction to the Budget with Jonathan Portes, King’s College London economics and public policy professor… It was billed as the “boring” Budget, and to be fair Chancellor John Healey mostly delivered – with a few surprises. It was good news for pensioners, motorists and first-time buyers. Banks, meanwhile, were furious about a temporary tax hike, calling it “end of Rome levels of stupidity”. So what did the Chancellor actually announce? And what does it mean for YOU?  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  • Support us on Patreon for the Extra Bit, ad-free episodes and more.  Presented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Like the Democrats we’ve been pinning our hopes on the 2026 US mid-terms to end (or at least interrupt) Trump’s cruel circus… and now they’re finally here. Will the Republicans get the devastating punishment they deserve when America votes on Tue 3 Nov? Are the Democrats now so traumatised by poll upsets that they’re imagining a defeat into existence? And what happens after – if! – the Democrats take both Houses? Congressional staffer turned politics professor at George Washington University Casey Burgat joins us to explain what it all means.  Plus: John Healey’s first Budget is coming. Liz Truss’s terrible, terrible book. And have YOU done your wartime food stockpile? Try the Sensible Prepping Checklist. • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk • Listen to The Bunker’s Deep Dive on the Sycamore Gap tree killing. ESCAPE ROUTES • Zoë is reading Enchantment: Reawakening Wonder in an Exhausted Age by Katherine May, and it’s a “wonderful bit of escapism”. • James has been playing World of Warcraft Classic to celebrate finishing the edits on his next book. • Casey has been binge-watching The Gentleman on Netflix. • Andrew has been listening to No Bad Memories, the new album by Australian dance music duo The Avalanches  Buy books through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund OGWN by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. Presented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison with Zoë Grünewald, James Ball and Casey Burgat. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Chris Jones. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Who ordered the heated debate about Englishness? Open any newspaper or social media feed and you’ll stumble on some histrionic handwringing about “what it means it be English”. Who decided we needed to talk about this, all the time? And how thin is the cover it provides for your good old actual homegrown racism? We debate the debates in a conversation which contains cricket, Suella Braverman, Paddington, an “orchestra of dogwhistles”, Norman Tebbit, GB News’s “British-only radio station”, and surprising revelations about both of Seth’s grand-dads. Guaranteed relevant to Scottish, Irish and Welsh listeners too, honest.  Plus: the Jackdaw gas field, the US mid-terms, Liz Truss’s book and other ecological disasters.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Hannah recommends The Diplomat on Netflix.   • Jason thinks you should go and see the documentary NAZA, in which Israeli whistleblowers expose Netanyahu’s military methods. • Marie was “blown away” by the two de Gaulle movies, Résistance and Liberté.  • Seth recommends Michael Crick’s Twittex feed Tomorrow’s MPs which does what it says on the tin.  Support us on Patreon for the Extra Bit and more.  Presented by Seth Thévoz with Hannah Fearn, Jason Hazeley and Marie le Conte. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rupert Lowe of Restore UK claims that street violence is not just inevitable but necessary “if we are to save our home”. Elsewhere, the far-right pals up with street thugs – and its leaders walk right up to the line of endorsing extra-legal direct action because democracy has supposedly failed. Is the rising tide of violent rhetoric spilling over into actual physical attacks? We talk about why politics is sounding increasingly violent – and how it’s not just on the far-right. Plus: Trump’s betrayal of Ukraine sinks deeper into perfidy, can Burnham ban loudcasting on public transport, and why we should send squirrels to the White House.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Raf the Raver recommends Fantazia: The House Collection vol.2, the Jon Pleased Wimmin, Tony de Vit and Boy George hard house DJ mix.  • Rachel is going to see Legally Blonde: The Musical for the third time. • Matt recommends the movie Tuner, a new thriller about a man with hyper-acute hearing – and Tom Cruise’s notorious flop Digger which he really enjoyed, despite everything.  Support us on Patreon Presented by Matt Green with Rafael Behr and Rachel Cunliffe. Audio Production by Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

• This edition recorded before Trump cancelled livestreaming the execution of the Fort Hood killer.  Televised executions, machine-gunning illegal migrants in the Channel, renaming technology and water features as a loyalty/sycophancy test… why are the populists’ big ideas so dumb, performatively cruel and only made to wind up the liberals? We ask whether the era of Trolliticians will ever end. Plus: The crime! The immigrants! The wokeness! Everyone is desperate to leave Britain if you believe the Telegraph and Mail. But are they really? We dig into Exodus Propaganda (also the most popular baby name of 2027).  • Get your copy of 31 Inventions that Built Our World by Jonn Elledge – perfect Christmas present etc etc.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Rachel recommends My Promised Land by Ari Shavit.  • Jason visited the Museum of Brands in London.  • Jonn “devoured” Robert Harris’s new ancient Rome blockbuster Agrippa • Andrew raved over the Rogue Trooper movie, adapting a classic 2000AD comic strip and directed by Duncan Jones.  Buy books through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund OGWN by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. Back us on Patreon for the Extra Bit, early ad-free episodes, merch and more.  Presented by Andrew Harrison with Rachel Cunliffe, Jason Hazeley and Jonn Elledge. Audio Production by Tom Taylor and Chris Jones. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andy Burnham has finally said what we’ve all been thinking: Russia meddled in Brexit. Is this brave honesty – or the first step on the long road back to Brussels? Plus, the Greens are still in turmoil with Zack Polanski’s leadership now in doubt. What does it mean for everyone else on the left? Is a progressive alliance just a pipe dream now? Are the Tories back from the dead – and has anyone checked on Reform? • Use the code OGWN at https://www.eightsleep.com/whatnow to get up to £200 off the Pod 6. • Listen to Robin Maher, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center, on the latest episode of American Friction • And head on over to The Bunker for your daily news deep dive • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Ros has been watching De Gaulle: Part 2 – Liberté, the second instalment of  Antonin Baudry's two-part biographical epic  • Raf has been reading Joan Didion’s memoir, The Year of Magical Thinking.  • Zoë has finished the audiobook of Touching the Void, the harrowing true mountaineering story. www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Written and presented by Zoë Grünewald, with Rafael Behr and Ros Taylor. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production: Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune: Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Labour wins the Holborn & St Pancras handily – but the Greens had staked a lot on Zack Polanski winning and he failed. Is Polanski’s nightmare week over the Zionism vote a symptom of deeper weaknesses in his leadership? Is far-left entryism destroying the Greens? And why Labour’s victorious candidate Sagal Abdi-Wali symbolises the best of Britain. Steve Richards of Rock & Roll Politics joins Andrew Harrison for the Holborn postmortem.  • Hear Steve’s Rock & Roll Politics special on Polanski’s troubles and why Kemi Badenoch’s speech to the Tories was misreported.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Audio Production by: Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Has Burnham really broken Britain’s bizarre, self-enforced silence around the disaster that is Brexit? What would a real pro-EU membership stance from Labour mean for British politics? And would killing off Brexit inadvertently give a flagging Farage his mojo back? Plus, in the week that Jeffrey Archer died we discuss why establishment Britain will give a pass to any charlatan, bullshitter and perjurer provided he’s amusing at parties. And our special guest Sebastian Salek – good news columnist at LabourList – explains why he fights the good fight on GBNews.  • Get the Bunker Deep Dives every day here   • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Jonn has been enjoying the HBO legal drama War with Dominic West and Sienna Miller.   • Jason has been watching a 20-minute documentary about the invention of Hula-Hoops from 1972, and other things on BBC Archive.  • Sebastian Salek is off to see As You Like It at Shakespeare’s Globe.   • Seth recommends going to Italy. Just because.  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Seth Thévoz with Jason Hazeley and Jonn Elledge. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kemi Badenoch has promised to revitalise the Tory party at the Conservatives' conference – but can she drag it out of the doldrums? Plus, the Green Party conference descended into acrimony after members voted to declare that “Zionism is racism” – can leader Zack Polanski withstand the fallout? And… Andy Burnham faces heavy scrutiny over historic ties to Manchester City’s owners, after the club was found guilty of serious financial rule breaches. Could Manchesterism come back to bite him? Dr Jan Zglinski, associate professor at LSE Law School who specialises in sports law, weighs in.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk • Listen to Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor discuss “End Times Fascism” on The Bunker: https://linktr.ee/bunker_pod  ESCAPE ROUTES • Raf went to watch Kian Soltani perform Dvořák's Cello Concerto with the London Philharmonic Orchestra at the Brighton Dome • Matt saw an early screening of the new film Ghosts: The Possession of Button House • Jan has been reading Injury Time: Football in a State of Emergency • Zoë has started watching HBO’s legal drama, War (streaming on Now TV) www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Zoë Grünewald, Rafael Behr and Matt Green. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production: Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andy Burnham’s powerful and emotional speech at the Labour Conference left the Party full of righteous energy and its enemies scrabbling for attack lines. Has he succeeded in setting out a new direction for the Government? The OGWN Conference Away Team of Jonn Elledge and Hannah Fearn talk it over with Andrew Harrison and special guest Paul Richards – veteran Labour commentator, candidate and once chair, now treasurer of the Fabians. (Yes, the Fabians, and yes we do ask him if they secretly control the world like all the nutters think. Spoiler: they don’t).  • Because of developments in the RAF Fairford story we had to re-record a small part of this show remotely. See if you can spot the join.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Hannah has gone all-in on Strictly Come Dancing even though she doesn’t like the new format.  • Jonn has been watching the top-notch romcom Colin From Accounts on BBC iPlayer.  • Paul Richards has been watching the wartime simulation docu-drama The Wargame featuring our own Zoë Grünewald.   • Andrew went to see Saint Etienne for the very last time in Brighton and it was brilliant.  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison with Hannah Fearn and Jonn Elledge Audio Production by Chris Jones. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

BONUS EDITION: Well, we weren’t expecting THAT… Andy Burnham stuns and rouses Labour’s Liverpool conference with a bold, emotionally powerful speech that amounted to the promise of a new era. Will Britain respond to his open-hearted scally dad message of unity? Was there detail among the vibes? Have we just heard the ‘Wonderwall’ of political speeches? James Ball of The New World was there and he tells Andrew Harrison how Burnham’s speech gave even hardened, cynical journos actual goosebumps.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison. Audio Production by Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andy Burnham's first Labour conference as PM is underway. So… will he and his government make a good impression on the party and voters? First the PM proposed an NHS-style social care system; a day later his chancellor John Healey promised a Budget that injects hope into Britain’s beleaguered economy. Ros Taylor, Rachel Cunliffe and James Ball discuss everything we know so far and what it all means.  • Questions for the panel? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Rachel has been rewatching the noughties sci-fi hit Heroes in memory of its star, Hayden Panettiere, who passed away last month • James has been replaying Slay the Spire II • Ros has been watching the new season of The Great British Bake Off www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Ros Taylor with James Ball and Rachel Cunliffe. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Actual blackshirts are blockading ports, doxxing lifeboat volunteers and intimidating people across the South Coast, and the most senior political figure to come out against them is… Rishi Sunak? We ask why Andy Burnham won’t make a full-throated condemnation of the new wave of far-right street thugs – and whether his new National Centre for Information Defence will work. Plus: With £72m of donations in the bank, are Reform UK now the political wing of the crypto industry? Special guest Peter Geoghegan of Democracy for Sale joins us to explore what happens if angry Britain votes for an anti-immigration party but gets a crypto government.  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Jason raved about Felled: The Killing at Sycamore Gap by Andrew Hankinson. (Available to pre-order)  • Marie flew through Guilty Pleasure: The Pornification of the Internet, the Economy, and Everything Else by Patricia Nilsson. (Also available to pre-order)  • Peter enjoyed The Palm House by Gwendoline Riley.  • Andrew loved counterfactual murder mystery Pagans by James Alistair Henry. When you buy books through our affiliate bookshop you help fund the podcast by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison with Marie le Conte and Jason Hazeley. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bonus episode with James Ball and Jacob Jarvis… Andy Burnham finally meets Donald Trump at the UN General Assembly in New York. The pair hit it off, as Trump hails the PM as a “natural businessman” and claims he “gets it”. So what did we learn from the meeting? How long can Burnham keep the good vibes going? And can he avoid both bending the knee and picking a fight with the quick-tempered US president?  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis with James Ball. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andy Burnham promised politics with a “sense of optimism” – now the PM is warning that “difficult decisions” lie ahead. So can he keep up the smiles as next month’s budget looms and the reality of government sets in? Plus, the Liberal Democrats gather in Brighton where Ed Davey is promising “insurgent liberalism”. What does it mean? And why are some Lib Dems unhappy with their leader?  • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  • Get up to £350 off the Eight Sleep Pod 5 here with the code OGWN  ESCAPE ROUTES • Rachel watched Paul Feig’s thriller, The Housemaid  • Raf is watching World War Two drama The Line – or Un village françaison in French – streaming on ITVX • Ros is reading Farewell to Eden by Sebastian Faulks  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Ros Taylor with Rachel Cunliffe and Rafael Behr. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s the most important by-election ever since the last by-election! The candidates are finalised for the fight for Keir Starmer’s old St. Pancras and Holborn seat. It’s a test for Burnham’s Labour and for Green leader Zack Polanski. Who’s most likely to win? And what would victory and defeat mean for each figurehead? Plus, Mark Carney is having a moment – if Canada can be an “associate member” of the EU, why can’t we?! Matt Green is joined by Hannah Fearn, Jason Hazeley and Rachel Cunliffe to discuss.  Escape routes:  • Hannah has watched 70 Up • Jason has been watching the mockumentary People Like Us • Rachel has been watching Elle • Matt is watching The Beast in Me www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Matt Green with Hannah Fearn, Jason Hazeley and Rachel Cunliffe. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Reform has been bolstered with £72 million from crypto billionaires – is it enough for Nigel Farage to buy his way to power? What will the money be spent on? And what rules could change in the wake of this? Plus, Ed Miliband is reshaping Britain’s foreign policy, what is motivating him and what are his goals? Ros Taylor is joined by Marie Le Conte, Rafael Behr and Seth Thévoz to discuss.  Escape Routes • Seth has been reading The Man Who was Thursday. • Marie has been reading Eurotrash by Christian Kracht.  • Rafael has been watching season two of Ludwig on iPlayer. And, here’s a link to his latest mix as mentioned.  • Ros watched the film Call My Agent! (Dix pour cent) on Netflix. www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Ros Taylor with Marie Le Conte, Rafael Behr and Seth Thévoz. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Another of our weekend bonus editions… When author Jon Ronson’s son texted him from a supposed party in a medieval castle (?) and said it was getting “very weird”, Jon had no idea that it would open the door into some of the strangest reaches of the manosphere. In the resulting book The Castle, he meets a fantasist who thinks he’s the new Hugh Hefner; a man who cranks out far-right rage videos that he doesn’t even believe just because the algorithm drives him to it; and a dad whose “fun” family videos ended up with him being denounced online as an abuser. Is social media unmooring modern men from reality… or are they heading that way anyway? And is writing books like this Jon’s own way escaping the “world of male nothingness”?  • Buy The Castle through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund Oh God What Now by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  • Find out if you’re owed on car finance at refundclub.co.uk/OGWN   • Refund Club is a trading style of Sandsford Law Limited, authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA no. 8008114). Checking is free. A fee is payable only if your claim is successful. Eligibility: car finance taken out in the UK between 2007 and 2021. The average claim is around £829 per agreement; this is an average and not a guarantee of the amount you will receive. You can also claim yourself for free by contacting your lender or the Financial Ombudsman Service. refundclub.co.uk/OGWN www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Andrew Harrison. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andy Burnham wants to change who holds the power in Britain, taking the levers of government out of Whitehall’s hands. Plenty of his predecessors have tried – and failed – to make their vision stick. So, can the PM’s model survive contact with reality? Veteran journalist Phil Tinline joins us to weigh in.  Plus: poor old Tommy Robinson is apparently skint, de-banked and has “nothing to hide”. So how did a brand-new Channel 4 investigation allegedly find a live bank account, a Portuguese shell company and £250,000-worth of questions? And in the Extra Bit... does nicking a pint glass make you a criminal or just British? • Read Phil’s piece in Prospect Magazine, Andy Burnham’s theory of power. • Questions for But Your Emails? Thoughts? Comments? Email us at ogwn@podmasters.co.uk.  ESCAPE ROUTES • Ros has been watching the third series of Colin from Accounts on BBC iPlayer • Jason immersed himself in tunes and pints of ale at the annual Faversham Hop Festival • Phil has been listening to Bassvictim, the Polish rap, electroclash duo • Zoë went to the screening of Sky’s upcoming docudrama, The Wargame – WHICH SHE’S IN! • Listen to Terror Century, The Bunker’s three-part mini-series marking the 25th anniversary of 9/11 • Find out if you’re owed on car finance at refundclub.co.uk/OGWN   • Refund Club is a trading style of Sandsford Law Limited, authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA no. 8008114). Checking is free. A fee is payable only if your claim is successful. Eligibility: car finance taken out in the UK between 2007 and 2021. The average claim is around £829 per agreement; this is an average and not a guarantee of the amount you will receive. You can also claim yourself for free by contacting your lender or the Financial Ombudsman Service. refundclub.co.uk/OGWN www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Zoë Grünewald with Jason Hazeley, Ros Taylor and Phil Tinline. Produced by James Liddell. Audio Production by Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Tom Taylor and Simon Williams. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices