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Five years ago, the Revd Marcus Walker co-founded the Save the Parish campaign. The Revd Dr Stephen Cherry, former parish priest, cathedral canon, and college dean, sat down recently with Fr Walker in the vestry of his church to find out what the issues are and to dig a little deeper into the theology that is behind the concerns. Among the topics discussed: • When and why Fr Walker first decided that the parish needed to be saved. • Why he believes that stipendiary clergy are so vital. • How he responds to critics who say that Save the Parish is standing in the way of initiatives to deal with the Church of England’s attendance crisis. • What would success look like for Save the Parish? Fr Walker is the Rector of St Bartholomew the Great, in the City of London. He is chairman of the Save the Parish network and a member of the General Synod. He is a monthly columnist for the Critic Magazine, and an occasional columnist for The Times, the Telegraph, and the Spectator. Dr Cherry is an Emeritus Fellow of King’s College, Cambridge. His most recent book, Unforgivable? Exploring the limits of forgiveness, is published by Bloomsbury. Read our review here. He presents the podcast Encounters with King’s College Chapel: https://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/encounters-kings-college-chapel-podcast This episode is produced by Neil Koenig. Picture credit: Geoff Crawford/Church Times Stories mentioned at the end of the podcast: • Opponents welcome Commons’ rejection of ‘dangerous and unworkable’ assisted-dying Bill: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/18-september/news/uk/opponents-welcome-commons-rejection-of-dangerous-and-unworkable-assisted-dying-legislation • Church in Wales Governing Body: Detailed paper outlines future funding issues: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/18-september/news/uk/church-in-wales-governing-body-detailed-paper-outlines-future-funding-issues • Interview with Jackie Pullinger: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/18-september/features/features/lifetime-given-to-prayer-protection-and-hope Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

“We don’t do God,” the former government communications director Alastair Campbell once told an American reporter who asked Tony Blair about religion. The phrase has come to signify the idea that, in the UK, religion should be kept out of public life. On the podcast this week, staff writer James Macintyre sits down with Alastair Campbell at his home in north London to talk about his enduring interest in faith. Their conversation covers: • What he meant by saying “We don’t do God.” • Why he is proud to be a “pro-faith atheist” • His private Bible studies with the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, at Lambeth Palace • Pope Leo XIV’s encyclical on humanity and AI, Magnifica Humanitas Today, Campbell remains a well-known public figure. He co-presents the hugely popular podcast The Rest is Politics, is Editor-at-Large of The New World, and campaigns on mental health. He is the author of a number of books, which include: • But What Can I Do? Why politics has gone wrong and how you can help fix it (Penguin, 2023). • Living Better: How I learned to survive depression (John Murray, 2020) • Eight volumes of Diaries about is time working in government Stories mentioned in the podcast: • ‘I was probably the only atheist in the room’: Alastair Campbell on Bible studies with Justin Welby: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/11-september/news/uk/i-was-probably-the-only-atheist-in-the-room-alastair-campbell-on-bible-studies-with-justin-welby • Churches marking 25 years since 9/11: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/11-september/news/world/churches-marking-25-years-since-911 • Education: Is AI a threat or an opportunity for young people?https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/11-september/features/features/education-is-ai-a-threat-or-an-opportunity-for-young-people Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Picture credit: Alamy Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

The Symposium series concludes this week with a talk by the Bishop of Edmonton, Dr Anderson Jeremiah, and a response by Dr Anna Rowlands, the St Hilda Professor of Catholic Social Thought & Practice in the Department of Theology and Religion at Durham University. The title of the talk is: ‘The Radical Act of Common Life: Finding “Us” in a World Drifting Apart.’ The talks were given last month at the event “Public faith, common good, Christian social order,” organised by St John’s College, Cambridge, in conjunction with the diocese of Ely and the Church Times. Read more about the Symposium: https://www.joh.cam.ac.uk/about-us/news-and-research/leading-thinkers-discuss-faith-in-a-fractured-society Dr Jeremiah became Bishop of Edmonton in 2024. He is the first Dalit, and the first presbyter ordained in the Church of South India, to be appointed Bishop in the Church of England. He was the first lecturer in World Christianity in the department of Politics, Philosophy and Religion at Lancaster University, and is a globally recognised Anglican Theologian with research interests in the lived facet of World Christianity, and its theological, political, and missional engagement in the wider society. He is the author of Community and Worldview among Paraiyars of South India (Bloomsbury, 2012). Professor Rowlands is also the Vincentian Chair in Social Justice at St John University, New York. She is an ecumenical lay canon of Durham Cathedral and the Chair of the UK Centre for Catholic Social Thought and Practice, and a Member of the Vatican Dicastery for Integral Human Development. She is the author of Towards a Politics of Communion: Catholic social teaching in dark times (Bloomsbury, 2021). Her current book project is on three women social philosophers read as political theologians: Hannah Arendt, Simone Weil, and Gillian Rose. Picture credit: Diocese of London Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

The Symposium continues this week with a talk by the Bishop of Chelmsford, Dr Guli Francis-Dehqani, and a response by the church historian the Revd Dr Jeremy Morris. The talks were given last month at the event “Public faith, common good, Christian social order,” organised by St John’s College, Cambridge, in conjunction with the diocese of Ely and the Church Times. Read more about the Symposium here Dr Francis-Dehquani’s books include: (SPCK, 2025). Read our review here Cries for a Lost Homeland: Reflections on Jesus’ sayings from the cross (Canterbury Press, 2021). Read an extract here Dr Morris’s books include: A People’s Church: A history of the Church of England (Profile Books, 2023). Read our review here To Build Christ’s Kingdom: An F. D. Maurice Reader (Canterbury Press, 2007) Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Picture credit: Diocese of Chelmsford Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

Our new four-part series, The Symposium, continues this week with a talk by Dr Nick Spencer, senior fellow of Theos, and a response by the former Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams. The talks were given last month at the event “Public faith, common good, Christian social order,”, organised by St John’s College, Cambridge, in conjunction with the diocese of Ely and the Church Times. Other speakers at the event, whose talks will appear on the podcast in the coming weeks, include: Dr Guli Francis-Dehqani, Bishop of Chelmsford The Revd Dr Jeremy Morris, church historian, former national C of E adviser on ecumenical relations and former Master of Trinity Hall, Cambridge. The Bishop of Edmonton, Dr Anderson Jeremiah, a globally recognised theologian Dr Anna Rowlands, St Hilda Associate Professor of Catholic Social Thought & Practice in the Department of Theology and Religion at Durham University Read more about the Symposium here: https://www.joh.cam.ac.uk/about-us/news-and-research/leading-thinkers-discuss-faith-in-a-fractured-society Dr Spencer hosts the podcast Reading our Times. His books include: The Landscapes of Science and Religion: What are we disagreeing about?, written with Hannah Waite (OUP, 2025). Magisteria: The entangled histories of science and religion (Oneworld, 2023). The Evolution of the West: How Christianity has shaped our values (SPCK, 2016) Dr Williams’s books include: Solidarity: The work of recognition (Bloomsbury, 2026). Do We Have the Right to Die? , written with Brenda Hale (Vintage, 2026). Discovering Christianity: A guide for the curious (SPCK, 2025). Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

A new series, The Symposium, begins this week, with a talk by the Bishop of St Albans, Dr Andrew Rumsey. The talk was given last month at the event “Public faith, common good, Christian social order,” and was organised by St John’s College, Cambridge, in conjunction with the diocese of Ely and the Church Times. Other speakers at the event, whose talks will appear on the podcast in the coming weeks, include: Dr Rowan Williams, former Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Guli Francis-Dehqani, Bishop of Chelmsford Dr Nick Spencer, senior fellow at the think tank Theos Dr Anna Rowlands, St Hilda Associate Professor of Catholic Social Thought & Practice in the Department of Theology and Religion at Durham University Read more about the Symposium here: https://www.joh.cam.ac.uk/about-us/news-and-research/leading-thinkers-discuss-faith-in-a-fractured-society Dr Rumsey’s books include: Parish: An Anglican theology of place (SCM Press) English Grounds: A pastoral journal (SCM Press) Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

Tributes have been paid to the journalist and broadcaster Edward Stourton, who died this month, aged 68. Paul Vallely writes in the Church Times this week: “Ed’s faith strengthened his journalism because it gave him a deeper insight into the truth. There is no finer exemplar of the vocation of journalism than Edward Stourton.” Last year, Edward Stourton delivered the Sir Tony Baldry Lecture in Winchester Cathedral as part of the Church Times Festival of Faith and Literature. The lecture examined how truth can survive in a digital age, and explained why truth-telling still matters. “Technology can create challenges as well as opportunities,” he said. “Today’s digital landscape offers us an abundance — a superabundance — of sources for information, something unimaginable in the 1940s, and, indeed, in the three-television-channel world I joined in the 1970s. If we’re offered several versions of the truth, it is only natural to prefer the version which best fits our views and prejudices, and that’s a real challenge facing us in what’s sometimes called the mainstream media. So, how do we meet that challenge?” Read Paul Vallely's article here: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/31-july/comment/columnists/paul-vallely-for-edward-stourton-journalism-was-a-vocation Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On the podcast this week, the Archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels and Primate of Belgium, Mgr Luc Terlinden, is interviewed by James Macintyre, staff writer for the Church Times. The interview was recorded on Sunday in a chapel at York Minster. Archbishop Terlinden had been invited by the Archbishop of York to be an ecumenical observer at the meeting of the General Synod in York, after he had invited Archbishop Cottrell, to Mechelen, to a major international conference last year. Archbishop Terlinden speaks about his impressions of the Synod, what the Roman Catholic and Anglican Churches can learn from one another, his hopes for world peace, and his assessment of Pope Leo XIV’s first year. Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On the podcast this week, the Rector of St Andrew’s, Ramallah, the Revd Fadi Diab, returns to the podcast (he was first interviewed in 2024). He speaks to James Macintyre, staff writer at the Church Times. Fr Diab is on a visit to the UK, where, last week, he presented to the Methodist Conference the 2025 document Kairos II, A Moment of Truth: Faith in a time of genocide, which he co-wrote in response to events in Gaza after the atrocities in Israel on 7 October 2023. The document calls for an urgent global Christian response. This weekend, he will be in York for the General Synod, where he has been invited to attend and speak with members about the situation in the Holy Land for Palestinian Christians, and the wider situation in the region. Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

Paul Vallely and Nick Spencer join Ed Thornton on the podcast this week to discuss how Andy Burnham’s Roman Catholicism influences his politics. Nick Spencer writes in the Analysis section of this week’s Church Times about what kind of religious politician Mr Burnham is, and what faith groups can expect from him once he enters 10 Downing Street, as he is expected to do later this month. Paul Vallely, in his column this week, finds echoes of papal encyclicals in Mr Burnham’s speech in Manchester on Monday. “Manchesterism, it seems, is the new word for Catholic social teaching,” he argues. Read their articles here: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/3-july/comment/analysis/analysis-andy-burnham-s-faith-is-politically-safe https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/3-july/comment/columnists/paul-vallely-burnhams-manchesterism-echoes-papal-encyclicals Paul Vallely is a writer, broadcaster, and consultant who specialises in philanthropy, business ethics, and international development. He is a Senior Honorary Fellow at the Global Development Institute at the University of Manchester. He writes a weekly column for the Church Times. He is the editor of The New Politics: Catholic social teaching for the twenty-first century (SCM Press). His most recent books are Live Aid: The definitive 40-year story (New Modern) (Books, 5 December 2025) and Philanthropy: From Aristotle to Zuckerberg (Bloomsbury) (Books, 11 September 2020, Podcast, 17 September 2020). Dr Nick Spencer is senior fellow at Theos, and the host of the podcast Reading our Times. His books include The Landscapes of Science and Religion: What are we disagreeing about? (OUP) (Books, 10 October 2025) (written with Hannah Waite) and The Mighty and the Almighty: How political leaders do God (editor) (Biteback) (Books, 16 June 2017). Podcast edited by Katie Bartlett. Picture credit: Alamy Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

The writer and broadcaster Chris Bowlby is intereviewed this week about his book No Complacency: Life, death, football, and the cathedral on the hill. The book is published by Herne Books and is available from the Church Times Bookshop for £18. From the publisher’s description: “When Chris Bowlby’s son Ewan was diagnosed with a brain tumour aged 17, you might have thought football would be the last thing on their minds. But in the following decade in which Ewan faced growing threats to his health, the love of football they shared seemed to grow in importance. It was a kind of thread, defiantly holding some kind of normal life together, and a passion that prompted fascinating discussion about why a sport could matter so much. “After Ewan’s death from cancer in 2022 [Gazette, 3 March 2023], Chris faced a choice. He wondered whether his lifelong love of football might fade. But gradually he found a way of including grief in a return to life, all of life. He understood as never before how much football had meant to him, how it had shaped the world he had lived through, and how it could now help him cope. Yet there was tension too. Was he now more aware of how the modern game might be leaving its humanity behind? “This book explores that experience, ranging from top-level football to community clubs, the intensely local to the global, the women’s game as well as the men’s. It has football at its heart but is about much more than sport.” Ewan Bowlby’s book, Borrowed Stories: Facing cancer with culture — from Breaking Bad to The Divine Comedy, was published last year (Features, 12 September 2025). https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781917362115/borrowed-stories https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/12-september/features/features/facing-cancer-with-culture-end-of-life-solace-in-storytelling Chris Bowlby has written the Viewpoint column in the 19 June edition of the Church Times. https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/19-june/comment/columnists/viewpoint-with-chris-bowlby-football-and-religion-can-benefit-each-other Chris Bowlby was for many years on the staff of the BBC, where he made documentaries on a wide range of subjects including payday lending and football, profiles of leading football club owners, and the history of the Berlin venue for the 2006 World Cup final. He has also been a regular columnist for the BBC History magazine, a foreign correspondent for the Independent, and writes obituaries for The Times. Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

Peter Stanford returns to the podcast to talk about his new book, Gaudí: God’s architect, published to mark the centenary of Antoni Gaudí’s death. The book is published Hodder & Stoughton at £30 (Church Times Bookshop £24). https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781399811811/gaud%C3%AD?vc=CT705 The writer Tobias Jones says: “In daring to trace the complex connections between Gaudí’s religious faith and his famous buildings, this is an enriching, nuanced book.” Read an extract from the book in the 5 June edition of the Church Times: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/5-june/features/features/antoni-gaud%C3%AD-architect-of-his-own-destiny Peter Stanford is an award-winning writer, journalist, broadcaster, and campaigner. He is a former editor of The Catholic Herald. His previous books include If These Stones Could Talk (Podcast. 14 October 2021; Books, 26 November 2021) and Martin Luther (Podcast, 13 April 2017; Books, 28 July 2017). Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On this edition of the podcast, Canon Angela Tilby talks about her new book, Good Faith: Why England needs its Church (Hodder & Stoughton), which is available to buy at the Church House Bookshop. https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781399801638/good-faith Canon Tilby is Canon Emeritus of Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford, and a Canon of Honour at Portsmouth Cathedral. She is also a regular contributor to BBC Radio 4’s Thought for the Day, as well as a weekly columnist for the Church Times. The book “seeks to reclaim what is unique about the Church of England — a church which claims to be ‘part of’ the one, holy Catholic Church — and its role in our national life, and how a deeper understanding of Christian faith can still be passed on through it to the English people”. Picture credit: KT Bruce Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On the podcast this week, the singer, composer, and conductor Joanna Forbes L’Estrange is interviewed by Madeleine Davies. Joanna Forbes L’Estrange talks about how she developed a love of singing as a child, and why she believes that singing in primary schools is “absolutely vital”. This is especially needed in state schools, she says, where there is often less of a culture of singing than in independent schools. “There have been lots of musicians over the decades who have recognised this need, but still somehow there needs to be a seismic culture shift,” she says. “It’s somehow convincing the people who make the big decisions that singing provision in schools is absolutely vital.” She delivered a keynote speech this month at the annual conference of the Choir Schools’ Association. Read more in Madeleine’s report in the Church Times this week. https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/15-may/news/uk/state-schools-need-support-to-improve-music-provision-choir-schools-association-hears https://www.joannaforbeslestrange.com/ Tickets are on sale for the Church Times Festival of Faith and Music, on 10 October at Southwark Cathedral: https://faithandmusic.hymnsam.co.uk/buy-tickets/ Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

Tributes have been paid to Richard Harries, a former Bishop of Oxford , long-serving peer, and prolific writer, who died on 29 April at the age of 89. He was a frequent contributor to the Church Times. In 2023, Lord Harries was interviewed on this podcast about his memoir, The Shaping of a Soul: A life taken by surprise (John Hunt) (Books, 6 April 2023). On this week’s podcast there’s another chance to hear the interview about his fascinating life. In this week’s Church Times, an obituary of Lord Harries is published, as well as his last book review for the paper. The Shaping of a Soul is available from the Church House Bookshop: https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781803411620/shaping-of-a-soul-the https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/8-may/gazette/obituaries/obituary-the-rt-revd-the-lord-harries-of-pentregarth https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/8-may/books-arts/book-reviews/book-review-vermeer-a-life-lost-and-found-by-andrew-graham-dixon Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On the podcast this week, Dr Lucy Sixsmith is interviewed about her new book, When the Music Fades: Power, surrender and the Soul Survivor generation. In the book, she reflects on growing up as part of the Soul Survivor generation, including attending its festivals, and she grapples with the big questions that she and others have been left with in the wake of revelations about its founder, Mike Pilavachi. In September 2023, an investigation by the Church of England’s safeguarding team concluded that Mr Pilavachi had exercised an abuse of power and spiritual abuse (News, 7 September 2023). The following year, a review by Fiona Scolding KC concluded that the abuse of power had been enabled by a wholesale failure of organisational culture at Soul Survivor (News, 4 October 2024). The book goes beyond Soul Survivor to the wider culture of Charismatic Evangelicalism in Britain in the 1990s and 2000s. One of the books aims, she says, was to try to evoke this environment, “to put out into the world: this is what it was like, this is what a lot of us who are now 30- or 40-somethings experienced as teenagers.” An extract from the book is published in this week’s edition of the Church Times. Dr Sixsmith is in conversation with Madeleine Davies, senior writer at the Church Times. When the Music Fades: Power, surrender and the Soul Survivor generation is published by Canterbury Press at £16.99 (Church Times Bookshop £13.59); 978-1-786-22615-0. https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781786226150/when-the-music-fades?vc=CT201 Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On the podcast this week, the Archbishop of Canterbury speaks to the editor, Sarah Meyrick. It is the Archbishop’s first interview since her enthronement last month. Archbishop Mullally is asked about her hopes for her time in office. What will be distinctive about her archiepiscopate? What sort of leader will she seek to be? She also speaks about church growth, safeguarding, Living in Love and Faith, and her relationship with the Anglican Communion, among other topics. “What I want to offer is a consistency: a calm, non-anxious leadership,” she says. “I see myself as a shepherd, as somebody who supports and provides pastoral care.” Picture credit: BBC Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On this episode of the podcast, Malcolm Guite talks to Rachel Mann about his new book, Galahad and the Grail, part one of a planned four-volume poem sequence, Merlin’s Isle, a retelling of the tales of King Arthur. In a review of the book in the Church Times, Dr Michael Wheeler describes Galahad and the Grail as “a poem of sacramental re-enchantment, grounded in the holy eucharist”. Galahad and the Grail: Merlin’s Isle Volume 1 is published by Canterbury Press at £30 (Church Times Bookshop £27). https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781786227126/galahad-and-the-grail?vc=CT727 The Revd Dr Malcolm Guite is a Life Fellow of Girton College, Cambridge, and writes the weekly Poet’s Corner column for the Church Times. The Ven. Dr Rachel Mann, also a priest-poet, is the Archdeacon of Bolton and Salford, in the diocese of Manchester. Her second collection of poetry, Eleanor Among the Saints (Carcanet), was shortlisted for the 2024 T. S. Eliot Prize (Books, 25 April 2025).

On this edition of the podcast, Peter Hitchens is interviewed by Church Times staff writer James Macintyre. Mr Hitchens is one of the most well-known — and well-travelled — columnists and commentators in Britain. He has worked in the journalism trade for almost 50 years, serving as a resident correspondent in Moscow, and in Washington DC, as well as an industrial correspondent and a political correspondent. A practising Anglican and a “small-c” conservative, he is known as “controversial”: at once celebrated by his many admirers, and reviled by his opponents. Few people who have come across him have no opinion on him. He has a weekly column for The Mail on Sunday and also writes for the Daily Mail, among a range of other outlets. A regular broadcaster, his books include The Rage Against God, first published by Continuum in 2010. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader

On this edition of the podcast, the Revd Dr Andrew Atherstone, Professor of Modern Anglicanism in the University of Oxford, is intereviewed about his biography of the Archbishop of Canterbury, which was published this week. The book, "Archbishop Sarah Mullally", draws on conversations with people who know her and archive material to tell the story of her childhood, her journey of faith, and her rapid rise through both the NHS and the Church of England. Dr Atherstone also considers how her archiepiscopate might compare with that of Archbishop Welby’s, about whom he has also written a biography. The book is published by Hodder & Stoughton at £22 (Church Times Bookshop £17.60); 978-1-3998-2878-9. https://chbookshop.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9781399828789/archbishop-sarah-mullally?vc=CT320 An extract is due to be published in next week’s issue of the Church Times (27 March), along with coverage of her enthronement in Canterbury. Dr Atherstone is interviewed by Ed Thornton, Associate Editor. Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader