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Imm Max.
And Imm Rachel.
And wow, Do We have A wild one for You today.
This episode, Itss going to Make Every eCommerce operator rethink their margins.
Okay, So picture This.
Imm cooking dinner, Right?
Flour All over My hands.
And I just asked My phone to order me olive oil.
Like voice Assistant style?
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
But Heress The thing.
It didn't just recommend A product.
It compared prices, checked reviews, picked My favorite Brand, And completed The purchase.
No apps, No friction, No clicking through Your Checkout flow.
Done.
Wait, Wait, Wait.
Thatss Not A recommendation.
Thatss A Full transaction.
Exactly.
Which is why today, Weree diving into The AI Shopping revolution Thatss happening Right
Now.
And Honestly, This is Fundamentally different From anything Ivee tracked in My CRO days.
And I mean, Microsoft just launched Copilot Checkout with Shopify, Etsy, PayPal.
This is real infrastructure.
But Rachel From My Amazon And Walmart days, she spent years catching these money on fire
situations.
And This feels Like The biggest one yet.
As You should be.
Because Google just dropped The Universal Commerce Protocol with Shopify And Walmart
backing It.
Okay, Thatss infrastructure.
Thatss plumbing.
And We know.
Ivee literally lived This.
Whoever controls The plumbing controls The margins.
Itss Not theory.
Right, Right.
Plus, Walmartss All in with Google Gemini.
Microsoftss rolling out Agentic AI solutions across The board.
The entire industry is making Massive bets on This shift happening in 2026.
So today, Weree breaking down What This Means for Your business.
Not theory.
Actual, measurable action items.
Clean data.
AI experiments.
Margin strategy.
The KPIs That matter.
From My dinner disaster to full-on AI Commerce takeover.
And Trust me, The implications Are wild.
Letss get into It.
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Letss start with Your olive oil moment And Microsoftss big move.
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Okay, So Rachel, I gotta tell You about This moment I had last week.
Imm literally cooking dinner, Flour All over My hands, And I realize Imm out Of olive oil.
Oh No.
So I just ask My phone, Like Completely hands-free, Hey, order me olive oil.
And The AI Found My favorite Brand, compared prices across retailers, checked reviews,
Executed The transaction.
No app.
No friction.
No thinking required.
Wait, Wait, Wait.
It actually completed The purchase?
Without friction?
Thatss, Thatss The thing That keeps me up At night.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
This isn't some future theory anymore.
Microsoft actually shipped Copilot Checkout, And Itss live Right Now with Shopify, Etsy,
And PayPal.
Okay, But I mean, I watched chatbots evolve At Amazon for years.
They Were always conversation theater.
What makes This different?
What actually changed?
Right, But Heress The actual shift.
Conversational AI has Been around for A long time.
around forever, sure, But It always stopped At, Heress What I recommend.
Youdd have to manually Go complete The purchase yourself.
This?
The AI actually executes The deal.
Huh, So Itss Not just Shopping Assistant, Itss Shopping Executor.
Exactly.
And Heress where It gets wild.
Microsoft also launched Brand Agents.
So Now retailers can create their own AI Shopping Assistants That live inside Copilot.
Wait, So Like, A Nike agent?
A Sephora agent?
And Theyree All living in Microsoftss ecosystem?
Thatss… Thatss A margin question waiting to happen.
Yeah, Yeah.
Each Brand can customize The experience, product recommendations, The whole thing.
But It All runs through Microsoftss infrastructure.
Okay, So I gotta ask The tough question here.
Who owns The customer relationship in That scenario?
There It is, The Rachel question.
I mean, come on.
If Imm A Brand And All My transactions Are flowing through Microsoftss Copilot, And
They control The Checkout flow, The data, The customer lifetime Value tracking, That
margin visibility just vanishes.
Do I even own A customer relationship anymore?
Thatss… Yeah, Thatss The billion-dollar question.
Right Now, Microsoft is positioning This As A partnership.
Brands get access to The AI infrastructure, But They maintain their customer data through
The integrations.
But Do They really?
Because Whoever controls The plumbing controls The margins.
And I learned That The hard Way At Amazon.
Thatss Not A theory, Thatss The game.
Fair Point.
And You know Whatss wild?
From A CRO perspective, I spent years genuinely obsessed over Button colors, form fields,
cart abandonment flows, Dark patterns, forced upsells, All Of It.
All That stuff That used to keep You up At night.
Right?
And Now?
All Of That optimization work might actually be irrelevant.
Because If The AI is doing The Checkout, Itss Not about Your page design anymore.
Itss about How Clean And parsable Your product data is, How Well You feed The algorithm Your
best stuff.
Oh wow.
So The optimization game Completely changes.
We Go From chasing basis points on conversion rate to… What?
Optimizing for algorithmic preference And KPI signals The AI actually cares about?
Completely.
Instead Of Optimizing for human eyes clicking through A funnel, Youree Optimizing for
AI Agents reading Your catalog And actually making The call.
Itss A Fundamentally different game.
Okay, So walk me through The actual mechanism.
When I say Buy olive oil, Whatss happening behind The scenes?
So The AI queries Your purchase history, identifies Your preferred Brands, checks inventory across
integrated merchants, Shopify stores, Etsy shops, PayPal merchants, then evaluates price,
shipping, reviews.
It makes A recommendation based on Your preferences.
And If You confirm, It executes The transaction using Your saved payment method.
Thatss…
I mean, Thatss powerful.
But Honestly?
Itss kind Of creepy.
Ivee rage quit So many Shopping carts back in My Amazon days When things felt too automated
or invasive.
This is next level automation.
Yeah, I get It.
But Heress The thing.
Itss opt-in.
You have to explicitly Give Copilot permission to Make purchases on Your behalf.
So Itss Not Like The AIss just going rogue.
Okay, Okay, That helps.
But Imm still thinking about The Brand side.
If Imm running eCommerce for A major retailer Right Now, What does This mean for My margins,
My unit economics, My actual ROI on This channel?
Right.
So This is Honestly huge.
Traditional CRO is All about reducing friction in The Checkout.
But with Agentic Commerce, The friction is Already gone.
The AI handles It.
So Your entire strategy shifts to, How Do I Make sure The AI picks My product over competitors?
Which Means product data, reviews.
Inventory accuracy
All become Way more critical. Yeah, Exactly.
Huh. So Weree Not just talking about A New Checkout method.
This is Like A fundamental shift in How products get discovered And purchased.
Thatss It. Thatss Exactly It. And Microsoft isn't The only one making Massive moves here.
Google just dropped something Thatss basically The infrastructure layer tying All Of This Together.
Oh? Whatdd They Do? Because something tells me This is The infrastructure
piece That changes everything.
Hold That thought. We gotta talk about The Universal Commerce Protocol.
Because Itss The infrastructure play That makes All Of This actually work.
Okay, Okay. Imm ready.
Okay, Okay. So We just talked about Microsoft making moves in The Checkout space, Right?
Well, Google just dropped something Massive.
Of course They did. What Now?
The Universal Commerce Protocol. And before You roll Your eyes, Rachel,
Itss backed by Shopify And Walmart.
Wait, Wait. Google, Shopify, And Walmart? Together?
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. All in on This.
Okay, Imm listening. What is It?
So, Um, remember When Every retailer built their own mobile Checkout Like 10 years ago?
Oh God, Dontt remind me. We spent years trying to standardize mobile Checkout across
different retailers When I was At Walmart. The fragmentation costs alone Were killing our
margins. It was A total operational And margin nightmare.
Right? It was an absolute fragmentation nightmare. I spent years in CRO trying to
optimize Checkout flows across different platforms. And It was just chaos. Like,
watching retailers All Build their own mobile Checkout At The same time
was A masterclass in inefficiency.
Exactly. And Weree about to repeat All Those integration nightmares with AI Agents?
I need to understand Whatss different This time.
Thatss Exactly What This is trying to prevent. The Universal Commerce Protocol is basically saying,
Hey, Letss create an open Standard So AI Agents can talk to any merchant
Without everyone having to rebuild The wheel From scratch.
Okay, That makes sense. But Who actually controls The incentives here? Because
open doesn't mean neutral.
Thatss The beauty Of It. Itss genuinely open. Like, Not Google controlled. And Trust me,
From My CRO days, Ivee seen What happens When one player controls The whole stack. Itss never good.
I mean, I hear You. But Googless launching It. They Dontt Build infrastructure unless
It feeds them data or margin. Ivee seen This Playbook before. So Whatss their actual angle?
Fair, Fair. But Heress The thing. If Shopify And Walmart Are actually cosigning This,
Theyvee got serious skin in The game. They Dontt want Google owning The entire
stack in dictating terms. Right, Right. So What does This
actually Do for merchants? And more importantly, What does It cost them?
Okay, So Google also launched their Agentic Commerce Platform At The same time.
Itss basically The infrastructure layer for agent-led Shopping.
Wait, agent-led Shopping? So The AI controls The entire buying journey?
What does That mean for Brand control And pricing power?
So Instead Of You going to Amazon And searching, Your AI Assistant,
Like Letss say Google Assistant or whatever, goes Shopping for You. It queries multiple
merchants, compares prices, checks reviews, handles Checkout.
And The Universal Commerce Protocol is The plumbing That makes All Of That possible.
Itss The common language between The agent And The merchant. Which,
Honestly, is The standardization piece we've Been desperately needing.
Okay, But Max, Heress What Imm thinking. You know From My days At Amazon And Walmart.
art, Whoever controls The plumbing controls The margins. Thatss Not theory, Thatss law.
Oh, here We Go.
No, No, No. Listen. If Googless building The infrastructure, Theyvee got All The leverage.
They can take A cut, prioritize their own products, bury competitors. The margin implications
Are Massive. Ivee lived This.
Absolutely. Thatss A legit concern.
And If Youree A Brand, Youree Now dependent on This Protocol. If It changes, If Google
decides to monetize differently, Youree locked in. Thatss The real risk here.
Yeah, But to be Fair, Thatss why The open Standard matters. If Itss truly open, other
platforms can Build on It. Itss Not just Googless sandbox.
I mean, I want to believe That. But we've seen This movie before. Someone builds an
open Standard, And six months later, Itss optimized entirely for The Platform owner's
benefit. Every time.
True, True. Look, Ivee Been through This before, Right? The mobile Checkout fragmentation was
A nightmare. But Heress why I Think This actually matters. If We Dontt have A Standard, Weree
repeating That exact same mistake. Every AI Platform builds Its own Commerce layer. Merchants
have to integrate with 15 different systems. Thatss money on fire waiting to happen.
Yeah, Ivee lived through That fragmentation nightmare. The integration costs, The operational
overhead, The margin pressure From managing multiple systems. It was Absolutely brutal.
Exactly. So The Universal Commerce Protocol is basically saying, Heress The Standard,
Build on It. Stop reinventing The wheel.
Okay, So Who actually wins here? The early adopters or The platforms controlling The
Protocol?
Honestly, I Think Itss merchants Who adopt early And get plugged in From day one. If
Youree on This Protocol, any AI agent can transact with You. Youree Not locked into
one platform's ecosystem.
And on The flip side, If Youree Not plugged in...
Youree invisible. The AI Agents won't even See You.
Right, Right. Thatss The scary part. Youree essentially opting out Of Agentic Commerce
entirely. And From A KPI standpoint, visibility, conversion, repeat rate, Thatss probably
game over.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. And Thatss Exactly why Shopify And Walmart Are All in on This. They know
This is The infrastructure layer That defines The next decade Of Commerce.
So What happens next? How fast does This actually roll out? Because adoption velocity matters
for our margins.
Oh, Itss Already rolling out. Googless running pilots Now. Shopify merchants can opt in.
Walmartss testing It internally.
Wait, Itss live? Already? That adoption velocity is Way faster than I expected.
Yeah, This isn't some future vision or vaporware. This is actually shipping Right Now. And after
years Of tracking eCommerce cycles, Thatss genuinely wild to See.
Okay, Okay. So we've got Microsoft building Checkout flows, Google building Commerce protocols.
What Are The actual retailers doing? Because From an operational perspective And profitability
standpoint, I need to know who's betting What And why.
Well, funny You should ask, Because Walmart just announced something pretty wild with
Google Gemini.
Of course They did. Letss talk about It.
Okay, So We talked about The infrastructure, The plumbing, Rachel.
I know, I know. I said Whoever controls The plumbing wins. And Walmartss always understood
That Better than most.
Exactly. So Now Letss talk about who's actually placing The biggest bets here. Because At
NRF, Walmart...
Walmart literally walked on stage with Google.
Wait, Walmart And Google Gemini?
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Full partnership. AI-assisted Shopping powered by Gemini.
And This is Not some pilot or Test. This is Walmart saying,
Weree going All-In on The Agentic Commerce.
Okay, So I spent years At Walmart, And let me tell You, They Dontt partner lightly.
If Theyree on stage with Google, That Means Theyvee Already run The ROI models,
stress-tested The margins down to basis points,
And know Exactly What This unlocks for their KPIs.
Right. And Heress Whatss So interesting. Walmart isn't just thinking about
customer-facing AI assistance. Theyree thinking infrastructure.
They want to be The merchant layer That Every AI agent can plug into seamlessly.
Which ties Right back to That Universal Commerce Protocol We talked about.
Exactly. Theyree positioning themselves As The default option
When Your AI decides to Buy groceries or home goods.
But Max, Heress What keeps me up At night.
If Google controls The AI, And Walmart controls The inventory,
Who owns The actual customer relationship? Who owns The data That actually matters?
Hmm. Thatss The question, isn't It? I mean, Walmartss betting They can own
fulfillment And logistics So Well That They become Absolutely indispensable.
And From A unit economics perspective, Itss A calculated bet.
Okay, But What about margin squeeze? Because If Googless AI is purely Optimizing
for The Consumer — lowest price, fastest delivery — Walmartss Already
razor-thin margins get destroyed. How Do They actually Make money
And stay competitive?
Volume. Massive, Massive Volume. Theyree betting That even with
thinner margins per transaction, The sheer scale Of Agentic Commerce makes It worth It.
Which, From My CRO days, Thatss A bold bet. But The unit economics could actually work At scale.
I Dontt know, Max. Thatss A dangerous game. Ivee seen Brands
optimize their Way out Of profitability before. This feels Like The same trap.
Oh, totally. But Heress The thing. Itss Not just Walmart. Microsoft announced
Theyree rolling out Agentic AI solutions for retailers At scale. Weree talking inventory
management, demand forecasting, personalized recommendations — The Full stack.
Wait, So Microsoftss going broader?
Way broader. Theyree positioning Azure And their AI tools As The backend for any
retailer Who wants to compete in This New world. So If Youree Target,
Costco, Whoever, You can plug into Microsoftss Agentic infrastructure.
Okay, Thatss smart. Because Not Every retailer can Build What Walmartss built.
Ivee seen That operational challenge firsthand.
Microsoftss basically saying, Welll Give You The infrastructure
Without The nine-figure engineering tab.
Exactly. And That signals something huge, Rachel. Walmart, Google, Microsoft, Shopify,
They All See The same future. And Theyree making Massive bets Right Now. Like, Not next year.
This quarter. Thatss How serious This is.
So why Now? Like, AIss Been around. Whatss different in
2025 That suddenly makes This The ROI story Every retailer's chasing?
The tech Finally works. ChatGPT was The proof Of concept, Right?
But Now we've got multimodal AI, real-time processing,
And Honestly, Consumer Trust is starting to Build. Itss The moment Ivee Been waiting for.
Trust? I mean, Ivee rage-quit enough Shopping carts When things felt automated And creepy.
Consumer Trust is real, But Itss fragile.
Fair. But Like, enough early adopters Are using AI Shopping assistance That Itss
hitting A tipping Point. And retailers? They know If
They Dontt move Now. Theyree looking At A money on fire situation.
Theylll get left out Of The loop entirely.
Because If Amazon or Walmart becomes The default AI Shopping destination,
mid-market retailers aren't just losing transactions,
Theyree losing customer relationship data. And Thatss where The real margin is.
Yes, Itss winner take most. And Thatss why Youree seeing these Massive partnerships
announced At NRF. Nobody wants to be on The outside looking in.
Okay, So What does This mean for mid-sized retailers?
The ones Who can't compete with Googless infrastructure or Microsoftss tooling?
Are They just roadkill in This scenario? Or is There an actual path forward?
Thatss where things get tricky. I mean, They need to adopt The standards,
Like That Universal Commerce Protocol, So Theyree At least accessible to AI Agents.
But They also gotta Differentiate somehow.
Differentiate How?
Brand experience. Unique products. Customer service.
Because If Youree just competing on price And speed, The AI will route customers to Walmart
Every time. And From My CRO days, I know How That margin trap closes in. Itss brutal.
Yeah, Thatss The margin trap We talked about earlier.
You can't compete on pure price And logistics against Walmart. Youlll destroy yourself.
Exactly. So The smart play for smaller retailers is to lean into What makes them special.
Curation. Expertise. Community.
Okay, I Like That. So Itss Not All doom And gloom for The little guys
If Theyree willing to bet on Brand loyalty And direct repeat rates
Instead Of just chasing efficiency metrics And conversion rate alone.
Not If Theyree strategic about It. But Theyvee gotta move fast.
This window won't stay open forever.
Alright, So we've covered The infrastructure, The big retailer bets.
But What about The actual consumers? Like, Are people actually ready for This?
Oh, Rachel, The data on Consumer adoption is wild. Letss get into It.
Okay, Rachel, So we've Been talking about All This big tech infrastructure stuff. Walmart,
Microsoft, Google. But Letss bring This home. What does This actually mean for The average
eCommerce operator listening Right Now? Right, Right. Because Heress The thing, Max.
58% Of consumers Are Already using AI for product research. Thatss Not some future trend.
Thatss happening Right Now. I learned This The hard Way At Walmart.
If Youree Not measuring How That impacts Your KPIs, Youree flying blind.
Yeah, And Ivee Been obsessing over CRO And unit economics for years. And Like,
This is Fundamentally different From anything Ivee tracked before.
This is The moment Ivee actually Been waiting for.
How So?
Well, We used to obsess over Checkout flows, Right? Button colors, form fields,
card abandonment, The whole CRO Playbook. But Now The AI is doing The Shopping.
The Consumer isn't even clicking Your Checkout Button.
Which Means Your entire conversion optimization Playbook,
The one I spent years perfecting At Walmart.
Is basically outdated. Exactly.
Okay, So Whatss The New Playbook? Because Imm thinking about ROI And margins here.
What should listeners actually Do with This information to protect their unit economics?
So Heress What Imm saying. First, And This is critical, You need to feed these AI systems
Clean, structured product data. Like obsessively Clean. I used to call This
feeding The algorithm Your best stuff back in My CRO days.
Right, Right. Because If Your product descriptions Are vague or Your specs Are incomplete.
The AI just skips You.
can't recommend What It can't understand.
Okay, So structured data. What else?
AI-driven personalization. And Imm Not talking about
Dear first-name email garbage. I mean actual,
real-time personalization That drives real growth And doesn't feel Like A Dark pattern.
Hmm. Imm on both sides A little bit here. Like, we've Been hearing about personalization for A
decade. Ivee seen Brands chase It And burn cash trying to optimize their Way to growth.
What makes This different? Because I need to See The actual ROI before Imm sold.
Because Itss Not guesswork anymore, Rachel. The AI knows What Your customer wants before They Do.
Itss watching behavior patterns across millions Of data points.
Okay, Okay. So The creepiness factor We talked about earlier,
Thatss actually The conversion mechanism Now?
Is also The growth factor. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
Great. So Weree solving The creepiness problem by leaning into The creepiness factor.
Love That for us. I mean, Look,
Social Commerce And live stream Shopping Are accelerating alongside This too. Itss All
converging. Wait, So Youree saying AI Agents And Social Commerce At The same time? Because
Thatss either genius margin expansion or A race to The bottom. Which is It?
Absolutely. Think about It. AI discovers The product. Social platforms create The desire.
Agents complete The purchase. Itss A Full ecosystem.
Okay, But Letss get tactical. If Imm running an eCommerce operation Right Now,
What Are My immediate action items? Like This week, Give me The ROI, please.
Okay, Okay. Number one, Audit Your product's data. Every skew. Make sure descriptions Are detailed,
specs Are complete, And everything is machine readable.
Number two, start experimenting with AI tools. Like Now. Dontt Wait for The perfect solution.
Test chat GPT Shopping, Test Google Gemini integrations, See Whatss working.
And Number three, And This is The ROI question, figure out Your margin strategy in an AI-first
world. Because Ivee seen This before. Whoever controls The algorithm controls The margins.
Yes, Exactly. Because If The AI is just defaulting to lowest price...
Youree in A race to The bottom. So You need differentiation, Brand story,
Value propositions That actually defend Your margins And aren't just about price.
Right, Right, Right. And Heress The thing. This is actually A legit opportunity for smaller Brands.
You know? How So?
Well, If Youree nimble, You can adapt Way faster than The big players. You can Test, iterate,
And optimize Your AI strategy while Walmart is still getting approvals through legal.
Fair Point. So move fast, basically.
Yeah. And Look, Ivee Been waiting years to See A shift Like This.
The Brands That win in 2026 Are The ones treating AI As A core channel, Not some side experiment.
Okay. So to recap for our listeners, Clean data, AI experimentation, And margin strategy.
Those Are The three pillars. Thatss How You win in 2026.
Absolutely. And Dontt sleep on This Because Your competitors aren't.
This is money on fire territory If You Dontt adapt.
Right. The 58% adoption rate We mentioned, Thatss only going up.
And Every percentage Point That goes up is A retailer Who didn't adapt losing ground.
And Honestly, Imm genuinely pumped about This. Like,
Weree Finally moving past The Dark patterns And friction That plagued eCommerce.
The best experience actually wins Now.
Which is What we've Been preaching forever, Max. Finally took actual AI Agents to Make
Brands listen And move. Better late than never.
Better late than never, Right?
Ivee Been waiting for eCommerce to Fundamentally shift Like This for years.
Exactly.
All Right, So action items Are clear.
Audit Your data quality, start testing AI tools Now, And lock in Your margin strategy
before competition gets fierce.
Your competitors definitely aren't waiting around.
Yep, And If Youree feeling overwhelmed, just start somewhere.
Pick one thing This week And Go.
Because The future Of Commerce, Itss Already here.
Letss get to work.
Okay, So, Rachel, We covered A lot today.
Yeah, Yeah.
From You ordering olive oil with Flour on Your hands to infrastructure control And margin
leverage, Thatss The scope Of What We covered today.
Right?
I mean, The big takeaway here is This, AI Agents aren't just recommending products anymore.
Theyree actually completing purchases.
That changes everything.
Fundamentally different.
Been waiting years for This, Honestly.
Absolutely.
And Honestly, Max, The infrastructure question keeps me up At night.
Whoever controls That transaction layer controls The customer data And The margins.
And Thatss Not theory.
Thatss How It works.
Yeah, Thatss The margin leverage problem Right There.
Exactly.
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